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2016 Trade Deadline: Blackhawks Forward Trade Targets

The Blackhawks are “big game hunting,” according to most NHL insiders, with a left wing to skate with Jonathan Toews and Marian Hossa being their primary objective.

During Wednesday night’s game, TSN’s Bob McKenzie talked at some length about four potential targets up front for the Hawks: Andrew Ladd, Mikkel Boedker, Loui Eriksson and Eric Staal. All four would be terrific players to add at the deadline, but a deal for each also presents some issues.

And Stan Bowman has a history of going off the board with deals (Ben Smith for Andrew Desjardins), so there’s a good chance there’s a name out there that hasn’t been mentioned outside of the Blackhawks’ front office meetings.

Who are some of the players the Hawks might target? And what are the issues with each? Let’s evaluate a few options.

The Big Four

Andrew Ladd

1. Andrew Ladd, LW, Winnipeg
2015-16: 56 games, 13 goals, 17 assists, 30 points, -10
DOB: 12/12/85 (30 years old)
Cap Hit: $4.400M (NTC)

  • The Good: Ladd is obviously a familiar name to Hawks fans, and he is rightfully at the top of the “want” list for Chicago. He’s a big, physical player whose game is precisely what the Hawks want/need up front. He’s a leader with championship experience, and can be productive as a top-six forward or on a third line. And he’s in a walk year, meaning there’s money off the books for the 2016-17 season.
  • The Bad: captains aren’t deal often, or easily, so the price tag to get Ladd out of Winnipeg won’t be small. The fact that there are other interested suitors (LA, Anaheim) will also increase what the Jets can ask for reasonably at the deadline. For me, the bigger issue is the idea that Bowman would move significant pieces (Teravainen perhaps) inside the Central Division for 2-3 months of Ladd, who is an unrestricted free agent and would be a rental. Bowman hasn’t made many deals inside the division, and certainly hasn’t moved young pieces for a veteran inside the Central.
  • The Situation: Winnipeg (53 points) is currently nine points out of the second wild card spot. There are three teams between the Jets and eighth place in the Western Confernece.
  • Deal Odds: decent, but not great. While he’s the ideal player, the fact that there will be other interested suitors will make the price something Bowman will think long and hard about paying inside the division. With other players potentially available with comparable styles of play and cap hits, moving prospects/picks to a team outside the Central might be more Bowman’s style.

Loui Eriksson

2. Loui Eriksson, LW, Boston
2015-16: 57 games, 20 goals, 25 assists, 45 points, +11
DOB: 7/17/85 (30 years old)
Cap Hit: $4.250M (NTC)

  • The Good: like Ladd, he’s a terrfic player and would be a great fit. Eriksson spent seven years in Dallas before he was part of the trade that sent Tyler Seguin to the Stars, so he’s a known commodity as well. He’s having a better offensive season than Ladd as well; as of Wednesday night, only Boston and Chicago had three 20-goal scorers on their roster already this year.
  • The Bad: Boston wants to retain Eriksson and they’re trying. Boston is also chasing a division title and is in the playoff picture, so trading away one of their best players would have to make sense both on the ice now and down the road, meaning the Hawks would have to give up NHL talent and prospects/picks to get this done.
  • The Situation: Boston (68 points) are currently second in the Atlantic Division. They are four points behind Florida and only one point ahead of Detroit. The Bruins are only four points ahead of the eighth playoff spot as well.
  • Deal Odds: not very good. Could the Blackhawks get something done here? Sure. Would young, cost-controlled players like Teravainen and/or Marko Dano intrigue Boston? Absolutely. But the Bruins are locked into a tight playoff race and it’s hard to imagine they’d trade away one of the best two-way players at this point in their season.

Mikkel Boedker

3. Mikkel Boedker, LW, Arizona
2015-16: 56 games, 13 goals, 24 assists, 37 points, -26
DOB: 12/16/89 (26 years old)
Cap Hit: $3.750M

  • The Good: the Hawks have liked Boedker for some time now. He’s a good skater who’s good for 20-25 goals and 50 points when healthy. Unfortunately he was limited to 28 points in 45 games last year. Once the eighth overall pick in the 2008 NHL Draft, he’s set to hit unrestricted free agency this summer but might be a guy the Hawks try to keep. Of course, the Hawks have a history of making deadline deals with Arizona as well (Vermette last year).
  • The Bad: the Hawks paid a premium to rent Vermette last year (Klas Dahlbeck and a first round pick), and would undoubtedly have to do the same to get the younger Boedker out of Arizona. The Blackhawks are already without a second round pick in this year’s draft (sent to Philly for Kimmo Timonen), so moving another high draft pick could be hard to stomach for Bowman as well.
  • The Situation: Arizona (58 points) currently sits four points out of the eighth spot in the Western Conference. They’re a young team with good prospects coming up/making an impact this year, but an injury to goaltender Mike Smith has undermined their playoff chances.
  • Deal Odds: pretty good. The history of Chicago and Arizona getting deals done is a positive, and Boedker being potentially more than a rental makes committing good prospects/picks to a trade easier to buy.

Eric Staal

4. Eric Staal, C/LW, Carolina
2015-16: 57 games, 9 goals, 21 assists, 30 points, -1
DOB: 10/29/84 (31 years old)
Cap Hit: $8.250M (NTC)

  • The Good: Staal is a leader who would not only fit a left wing spot but is also a very good faceoff man – something else the Blackhawks may want to address as Artem Anisimov, Phillip Danault and Dennis Rasmussen win between 45-47 percent of their faceoffs and Marcus Kruger out until the postseason. He hasn’t been as productive as the first three names on the list, but has been there before and has a ring on his resume. Skating with Toews and Hossa would undoubtedly help his production increase as well.
  • The Bad: his cap hit is enormous. Carolina would have to take back at least Bryan Bickell and/or retain salary for this to work, and even then it’s going to push the Hawks right up against the ceiling. The other issue the Hawks would have to combat here is Carolina’s surprising playoff odds, something not many people anticipated in October.
  • The Situation: Carolina (62 points) are currently two points behind Pittsburgh for the eight playoff spot, but the Penguins have two games in-hand. The Canes do have one game in-hand on New Jersey, who are only three points ahead of them in the seventh playoff position.
  • Deal Odds: this is a tough position for everyone. Carolina is in playoff contention, so dealing their captain is a hard sell. But he’s expensive, and may not be in the future plans of the organization. His cap hit may make a deal with the Blackhawks too hard to navigate. But with all of that being said…

Other Options

  • James van Riemsdyk, LW, Toronto
    With his brother Trevor already on the Hawks’ roster, adding the player selected immediately following Patrick Kane in the 2007 Draft is an intriguing proposition. He’s young (26) and a very good player (29 points in 40 games). But he’s been on IR since since late January with a 6-8 week return prognosis. It’s tough to add an injured player, especially when he carries a cap hit of $4.25M for two years beyond this season.
  • Jiri Hudler, C, Calgary
    Hudler scored 31 goals last year and is headed into unrestricted free agency with a current season total of… nine. To say Hudler has been disappointing is an understatement, and the Flames would undoubtedly be happy to get something to help them in the future for a veteran they have little/no intention of keeping. He’s an expiring contract, a left-handed shot and has a $4M cap hit.
  • Jamie McGinn, LW, Buffalo
    This would be another interesting fit for the Blackhawks. He’s only 27 (turns 28 in August) and has a modest $2.95M cap hit, but as an unrestricted free agent this summer he might look elsewhere for his next paycheck. He’s fourth on the Sabres with 108 hits, a number that would rank second on the Hawks current roster, and brings a physical style of play. He has 12 goals and 13 assists in 58 games this season 14 minutes per night.
  • Kris Versteeg, RW, Carolina
    Really? Again? It’s possible, as he would come with a considerably lower cap hit than the “big four” names listed above and he’s having a good season for the Canes (11 goals, 21 assists in 56 games). Integrating him into the lineup wouldn’t be hard; he was part of this team until Sept. 11 of this season, and the cost to get him back wouldn’t be nearly as high.
  • Tomas Fleischmann, LW, Montreal
    The downward spiral on Montreal is reaching breakneck speed, and the selling should begin soon. Fleischmann, who is only five months older than Staal, has only 19 points in 55 games with the Habs this year but has a significantly lower cap his ($750k) and his current team will likely be a motivated seller. He may fit better as a third line left wing, but could slide up into the top six.

Wild Card

  • Patrick Marleau, LW, San Jose
    Marleau has a no-trade clause on his contract and has already indicated that he doesn’t want to leave the Sharks. But an honest assessment of the Sharks’ chances of winning the West – much less the Cup – in the final two years of Marleau and Joe Thornton’s current contracts are slim. Would he consider leaving San Jose for a shot at a championship? If so, what would the Sharks want in return? And how would the Hawks make Marleau’s $6.666M cap hit fit? Lots of questions but he would be a nice fit for more than just this spring.

69 thoughts on “2016 Trade Deadline: Blackhawks Forward Trade Targets

  1. There’s also Jonathan Drouin, who was the talk of the trade market a month ago. Although he would be a good long term option because he certainly has top-6 talent, would he be ready to step into the 1LW role this season? Doubtful when considering the demand Q has to play on both sides of the puck with reliability.

    Also Jeff Skinner’s name was thrown around over the past couple months, but he is still signed for 2-3 years after this season and like with Staal the Canes are chasing a playoff spot so it’s doubtful they would want to trade one of their best players.

    I suppose if I had to pick, I would choose Eriksson.

  2. Stan has to walk a fine line between making the Hawks Cup ready this year and keeping them competitive long term. TT and Schmaltz are the main building blocks of the future. I believe they should be untouchable. Boedker seems like the best fit both short term and long term. A first round pick and a prospect not named Schmaltz might be worth it to bring Boedker on board. I have never been a fan of giving up first round picks for rentals so the trade could be made with the intent and ability cap wise to keep Boedker.

  3. I’m not as big on Drouin as others. If he doesn’t work hard enough for Jon Cooper, are we supposed to believe he’ll work hard enough to crack Joel Quenneville’s lineup?

  4. Too many questions on Drouin. He’s in Montreal. Is he skating? Working out? He’s a diminishing asset at this point. Hasn’t proven himself but he thinks he has. Yzerman can really fuck this kid up if he wants.

    Apparently Eric Staal has been on the market for a while but they haven’t found a fit. Another guy that’s been missed is Teddy Purcell. Might, big might be able to dump Bickell with parts for Purcell.

    One thought I’ve had to solve the top line issues. What if you bumped Kane up to play with Hossa(when he’s back) and Toews. Bump Teuvo up and he plays with a finisher in Panarin.

    Lastly, thanks again Tab for creating a spot where we can centralize all our hair brained trade ideas.

  5. A Kimmo Timonen and Marcus Kruger sighting at the White House!!! That trade sucked, but so worth it to see a good guy like Kimmo get the cup.

  6. @Ernie, I’d rather bring in a 1LW via trade to keep the 2nd line together and 86 on the 3rd line. He’s been great defensively all year and, as he did during last years playoffs, provides a timely offensive spark. When Kruger comes back the Hawks will have 4 legitimate scoring lines that can still play to their traditional roles (shut down, energy, etc.).

    Hot Take: JVR to Chicago for Bickell, the best Icehog not named Dano and a 3rd round pick. Toronto needs to suck while collecting/developing young players for a couple more years, Bicks fits that mold. JVR’s salary is reasonable for what he offers, he’ll be back in two weeks and if he solidifies the top 6 he’d give Bowman a little comfort in losing role players like Shaw and Kruger to another cap crunch.

  7. Out of curiosity, can NHL teams trade the rights to guys still in college or do they have to wait until they are out? Guessing the latter because I’ve never heard of it happening but was curious what the official rule was.

  8. I agree with the Drouin call Tab, just doesn’t seem like a fit, I am wondering if Iginla would be available at the deadline if Colorada slips down.

  9. They sure can trade their rights. Its kinda funny, but it seems college players are somewhat forgot about by fans when it comes to trades. Perhaps the reason they don’t get traded, or seemingly don’t get traded as often is the acquiring teams being unsure how easy it’s going to be to sign a player.

    @ Dean, I question this. “When Kruger comes back the Hawks will have 4 legitimate scoring lines that can still play to their traditional roles”.

    Kruger has 1 assist. One point! In nearly half a season…33 games. So I’m not sure why you think him coming back suddenly gives the Hawks 4 “legitmate scoring lines”. Desjardins has 9 points in 56 games. Danault 5 in 28. Rasmussen 7 in 34. Panik 4 in 16. Sekac 0 in 5. Mashinter 3 in 28.

    That’s fine. You don’t need 4 scoring lines. But don’t tell me they do when they obviously don’t.

    Q said he’d like a forward or 2. 1 obviously being 1 LW. But also a bottom 6 guy would help. Say they can acquire a David Jones or Teddy Purcell with Bickell going the other way. You now have a bottom 6 of Shaw, Teravainen, Danault,Desjardins and Kruger and Purcell or Jones. Much better than it is now

  10. Thought there was a typo on the Boedker stats showing a -26 so I double-checked. As always Tab was correct. The closest guy to Boedker is Vermette who is -15. I know +/- is not a great stat but -26 really stands out on a team that is still in the playoff hunt. If Q thinks he can hold his own on the defensive end he may not cost as much as the other guys. His speed is also high end. Maybe McNeil and a number one gets it done. Don’t see him being more than a rental given our cap challenges.

  11. If we’re wondering if the Hawks can trade Schmaltz’s rights, they can. Will they? Not sure… nice to have that kind of talent under control and developing w/out a contract.

    I have very little interest in Purcell, and if we’re talking about Bickell going anywhere in a deal you probably need to either have dead money coming back or a good piece (read: Teravainen) going the other way to offset.

  12. Staal has a HUGE Cap hit and I just don’t see Carolina taking much of his salary unless their return is otherwise huge. Boedker or Ladd seem more likely

    Out of the others…..JvR is simply to risky for $4+mm. I like McGinn but just don’t see him as 1LW.

  13. If the Hawks are going to make a move I sure hope its not at the expense of trading Tuevo. 2 yrs under a million dollars a season is exactly the type of player the Hawks need. Moving him would be a mistake. Dano is hurt so maybe the scares some teams off. Ive never liked Schmaltz but he has been electric this season. If you need to give up a 1st rounder and a prospect not named Dano or Schmaltz go for it. Pokka and Hartman should have value across the league.

  14. IMO Hudler is the guy the Hawks should be targeting. He can play either wing or center (if one goes down in the playoffs). He could fill in on the right side while Hossa heals and move to the left side when he’s healthy. If Anisimov or (God forbid) Toews get hurt he can move to center allowing either Shaw or Teuvo to move up to the top 6. On top of that, he’d come cheaper than your top 4 targets.

  15. @Ernie Kruger and Desjardins only had 3 goals and 5 assists last postseason but I remember them coming at significant times. While you’re right that they’re not technically scoring lines I’d rather Q have comfort in rolling all 4 than running the blender and only playing 3. However, as Tab mentioned, the price for a stud 1LW is likely too high (Teuvo).

  16. Was more thinking with Motte on fire at Michigan he’d be a hot commodity. Many of SB’s deals seem to come out of left field (minus Vermette) so it will probably be something we don’t expect like Jamie McGinn from Buffalo (if that happens it was just a name I grabbed randomly so no attribution of psychic powers). Either that or it’ll just be Versteeg again.

  17. Say Motte is traded to a non playoff team. He can de register from school after hockey season. The acquiring team has to hope they can sign Motte, a player they have no rapport with. Or else he is a ufa in 30 days. He can also complete his senior season and sign anywhere August 15 2017. That’s a gamble I don’t know if take if I was the acquiring team. Have a feeling that’s why teams shy away from NCAA players. You hold rights, but only for a certain amount of time. Most high end CHL players have been signed by the drafted team. Guaranteeing the acquiring team that property.

  18. 86 isnt going anywhere. We can use 1st and prospect like 1st/Dalhbeck for 80. Only guy I think we could resign would be 89.

    We should trade Bicks caphit similar to the 6 trade. We got 2m of the 3.3m and by trading Bicks 4 for a 2.5m caphit you have that player in Rockford and that gets us another 2.5m to use instead of .950m. Be better then a buyout.

  19. Great article Tab. Well done. I’d love to see Ladd with 19-81. That would be one hell of a seasoned, disciplined, experienced line.

  20. The whole point of making a deal is to win now. Trading high end talent off the hawks nhl roster doesn’t help winning now because your subtracting off the team. Hence trading TT should not even be a consideration. The currency should be draft picks and prospects at the ahl level and below. Plus I would be very reluctant to trade Dano. For me the question is what can you get for a #1 pick Hartman and maybe a later round pick on top of that which can work salary cap wise. If nothing works with that then the hawks have their team That’s my two cents. Go hawks

  21. Whatever happens this is the one time throughout the playing season that I actually care about the other 29 teams and follow their every move. The anticipation and build up never really lives up to the actual chess moves, especially in the cap and no trade clause era, but once in a while something truly remarkable happens that upsets the balance. We have short circuited the whole thing anyway by signing Panarin…if this guy ups his level for the playoffs and Kane relentlessly marches toward the Art Ross and Hart trophies, along with the plethora of experience from the core and near core, then we can relax and watch the others attempt to do something. Having stated that, Ladd would be great, fits right in, but not at the expense of TT and I think Winnipeg is in the drivers seat due to competing offers (from the Ducks and LA as is rumoured), but still, it’s a great time to be a fan.

    Ebony Raptor ( great name by the way )- Personal note- nice to have dinner with your youngest daughter for her 33rd birthday….my youngest, also a daughter, is 32.
    How lucky can we get eh?

  22. Yeah I got nothing. Reading is a skill.

    Ernie thanks for the info on the collegians. I will now go crawl back into my hole.

  23. Teuvo is a third line player….at least that’s where he’s played most of his most of his minutes. With who he’s played with (Bickell and Desi, no offense to Desi) I’d say the numbers he’s put up are pretty good all things considered.

  24. I see Rocky gave President Obama a parking pass at the United Center. Does he know how many people that involves? Rocky will lose his spot!

  25. Great article Tab

    Ladd appeared to be playing with some extra juice tonight 2 goals against Tampa Bay.

    The 2 names I like that make sense from Mckenzie’s 4 are Ladd and Eriksson, but not if they cost Dano or Teuvo. I also think JVR would be a great fit and he may not cost as much given his current health situation. Would love to add one of those 3 but only at the right price. This is where Stan and the front office earn their money.

  26. Jvr has 2 years left after this. He’s injured now. Of he’s traded for he’s not a rental thus driving his cost up. Don’t think the Hawks can have a 4.75 million cap hit without 29 being vanquished.

    If Scuderi retires and Bickell can be dumped that would be huge going forward. Would anyone trade Kruger to a team needing some leadership if it means dumping 29?

  27. Reading is a skill, Scottie P. Tab never said that Bowman never deals in the division, but that he rarely deals in the division.

  28. I would take that deal all day long….the only downside is Kruger showed tremedous loyalty last summer…he could have gone anywhere really yet believed in the organization’s ability to get him on board even though it was right up to the last second. Kind of a crummy way of saying thanks for hanging in there. Buy him a nice oceanfront condo in Costa Rica or something.

  29. But he couldn’t have gone anywhere. He was restricted. No doubt I have to admire how be handled the situation. But unless an offer sheet came his way and he didn’t sign it he was stuck. He hasn’t done much offensively this year to boost his stock either. This is why I never give athletes crap for taking the money.

  30. Fleishmann, Hudler and McGinn are logical targets. Ladd and Boedker are a pipe dreams and won’t happen. Ericksson is doubtful to be traded. Staal will be on the move, but not to Chicago.

    My increasing sense is that Teuvo is on the block. Which makes me happy. I think Bowman will value other prospect type assets in the system and draft picks more than he sees the need to retain Teuvo if he can swing a deal for the right piece.

    The Hawks absolutely need to “go for it” if they can make the money work. The window of opportunity to WIN another Cup is right now. You worry about the future later. And besides, the Hawks are doing a decent job of creatively developing their pipeline of talent…maybe not star-level players, but good talent nonetheless. Teuvo is HARDLY the sort of youngster that you must hang onto. His supporters have ridiculous blind spots on this guy.

  31. I hope Stan sticks to the plan and never trades a 1st or 2nd round pick again. Jonathan Drouin is a bad apple – keep away from him.
    Jeri Hudler is affordable and would likely be available for next year too. Can play LW or RW. Mikkel Boedker is fast, good defensively and can play either wing. He also would be good. Jamie McGinn is a hard working, defensively sound LW.
    I would target one of those 3 out of your list.

    I would add Scott Hartnell who can score, physical and adds grit.

  32. @Rufus… Why would anyone want to try to be you?

    Anyway… you completely contradicted yourself…

    “Ladd and Boedker are a pipe dreams and won’t happen.” and then you turn around and say “The Hawks absolutely need to “go for it” if they can make the money work. The window of opportunity to WIN another Cup is right now. You worry about the future later.”

    So, is it a pipe dream or should they go for it?

    Also, since Teuvo is so bad… (Q uses him on the Power play and in Penalty Killing situations…) I hope they keep him just to piss you off!

  33. If we could make the cap hits work, I’d go for JVR .

    His injury is a non-displaced foot fracture. Painful, I’m sure, but not as uncertain as a concussion, knee ligaments, or blood clots. And maybe Toronto owes us a little because we didn’t run up the score during the third period power plays Sunday.

    And maybe he makes TVR a little better, as well.

  34. I believe we acquired Nick Leddy as an unsigned draft pick who was wearing a Golden Gopher.
    OK Karl, I want you to kill all the Gophers. But won’t they put me in jail if I kill all the golfers??
    Sorry I am easily distracted. :)

  35. In my opinion it is simple….

    Make a package deal with Calgary, send Hartman, Bickell, and a pick or two. Not only would it dump Bick’s salary, but depending on the picks we could get Hudler and Russel in return.

    However, I would not be completely upset if the Hawks didn’t make a killer deal. After all, Shawzy is a solid grinder to complement the skill of 81 and 19. I also wouldn’t mind seeing 86 get a another look at that line. After all, the Hawks have enough “plug-in” players a deal will not be required, but will be helpful to another cup.

    Well that’s my two cents,

    Just a 16 year old from Indianapolis! Go Hawks!

  36. Not the worst idea I’ve heard. I don’t think that gets it done though. Swap David Jones for Juri Hudler and maybe.

  37. The Hawks got Leddy from Minnesota as part of the Cam Barker deal didn’t they? Leddy may have still been at UM at the time but almost positive he came over in a trade.

    Cam Barker… don’t miss that guy at all.

  38. The article (above) is actually quite humorous talking about how good the Wild think Cam Barker is/was… other interesting little tidbits too from a Minnesota perspective…

  39. Love to see Marleau. Perfect story. “old” star get the change to win the cup for the first time. Another Timonen can help spark the team.

  40. Barker for Kim Johnsson and Nick Leddy’s rights. Leddy may have had a broken jaw…don’t know if that was before or after the trade.

    As for Barker…he leads all KHL defenseman in scoring!

  41. Like the idea of a FW and D from CAL. Laddy at 25% retained is pretty good. Would still leave cap space for player bonus. Need to LTIR Krugs 1.5m because that’s a free 1.5m towards player bonus.

  42. If the Hawks trade their 1st round pick, as Tab has pointed out they have no 2nd, they would be going to the draft with their extremely little to work with.

    Having said that I would expect to see Stan and company sign at least 2 undrafted college free agents in April.

    Worth noting, the 2nd round has been a real achilles heel for the Hawks in the last few years especially for defensemen. Dillon Fournier, Carl Dahlstrom, Justin Holl, Adam Clendening, David Rundblad (you have to include him in this group because Stan viewed him as equal to a 2nd rounder).

  43. Morrison, not sure LTIR will cover bonuses. You need to spend up to the cap to use it and since (I believe) bonuses aren’t figured in until the end of the postseason Kruger will be back. Correct me if I’m wrong though.

  44. Not to mention you can’t LTIR his whole salary. Only what’s available while he’s injured. That translates to 18,292.68 per day he’s out. If he’s out half the season that’s only 750K you can spend while he’s hurt.

  45. Personally I would prefer to see any room left in the cap to go towards some of the bonuses Panarin will earn rather than putting it off until next year. I think with the current talent the Hawks have now they have more than enough to win without getting a high priced rental. Why is everyone so down on Shaw for the LW on the 1st line? It looks like he is on target for having his best year and is only 24 years old. A lot of other teams would love to have him. I’m not so sure that any of the choices are really much of an improvement over him. We have seen a lot of young players help the team a lot this year. I would hate to give away any up and coming player that may be instrumental to the team in 2017 for a questionable quick fix now.

  46. Sure. We LTIR Krugs 1.5m when we make 23man within (say) .050m which means we have 1.450m extra to use. So player we trade for has 1.45m caphit (prorated as well) then we still have the amount of cap space we have now for player bonus. That’s why LTIR Krugs caphit is important to do because its free because of injury like Kaners.

    I am sure were thinking the same thing with this stuff.

    I do think we have a good enough roster but want more depth. Shawzer is good on those lines but makes the 4th and 3rd lines that much stronger and I like want that. That would make our 4th and 3rd lines way better with 16 and 65 on them.

  47. Holeee moleee, Morrison spelled “more”. Will wonders never cease.

    Agree totally on Shaw with Morrison. Shaw is versatile…and still developing.

  48. Morrison thanks for clarifying. I was under the impression that you thought his whole 1.5M was available if he was LTIR’d. I still don’t think SB cares much about applying this year’s bonuses towards next years cap. He’s done it before and if I’m not mistaken he’s carrying $750K this year from last year.

    My concern with next year’s cap is that if Scuderi retires (since his contract is a 35+ contract) it still counts against the cap along with Runny’s and Bickell’s. That’s $7.5M+ in dead cap space right there. I’d rather address that at the deadline than chasing Ladd, Boedker or Erickson.

  49. I need to work on fact checking before posting. While Scuderi is 37 and in the third year of his contract, he turned 37 in December meaning he would have been 34 when he signed this contract meaning that $2.3M would come off the books if he retired. Second, if he doesn’t retire and and they still bury Bickell, Scuderi and Runny, it’s only approximately $4.5M of dead cap space. Still way too much if you ask me.

  50. Covered the Scuderi retirement thing a few posts ago. He signed his deal in his age 34 season. So if he retires his entire hit comes off the books.

  51. 44 is the .750 and Bowman doesn’t care but when we do not have to use the entire amount of cap space on trades its nice to have some for player bonus like that. Bicks caphit will be lowered by buyout or trade or something, same with 47. Not worried about that because of who we have running things. We do what we have to to make it work.

    I am happy that our guys know to not take any chances (by playing too hard, ard or even playing) in outdoor games, its not worth getting hurt.

    It goes with the territory of beating MIN in the playoffs several times, being one of the two best teams again. being at the white house after showing NYR how to play hockey and win without entire game with hooks holds and interference, 2 games in entire wk to get into any rhythm, having played good to really good in every meaningful game in the last 20 games or so. They havnt played good for them in the last 20 games or so, actually like shit/which is so not good theres a bounce off the wall from it from whiplash. get that up for an outdoor game because its an outdoor game/especially when you havnt played well since first 20 games for how good they really are, at home stadium, the list goes on.

    Hope the player hurt isint really hurt. Outdoor games are not worth getting gup for like that because its not worth injury for a meaningless game other then being a outdoor game for fun. I think 50% of outdoor are good/fun and the others are a waste like this. They deserve this because of being beat by us several times and how they are the last 20 games.

  52. Shoot, I forgot about 44. That Kimo trade is haunting the Hawks this year. They could have won without him, kept the 2 2nd rounders and had an extra 750k this year. Unlike you, I don’t trust Bowman. I feel his trades (for the most part) have been reactionary. The Sharp trade is a disaster. Acquiring Versteeg again was a mistake. I’ll give him Vermette though. The Bickell contract was an overpayment after a handful of playoff games (he sucked during the regular season) and why the hell did he resign Runny? Yeah I know, hindsight’s a mother…..

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