Chicago Blackhawks Acquire Andrew Shaw

On Sunday the Blackhawks brought a familar face back to Chicago.

The Hawks traded a 2nd and 7th round pick in the 2020 NHL Draft and a 3rd round pick in the 2021 draft to the Montreal Canadiens for forward Andrew Shaw and a 7th round pick in the 2021 NHL Draft.

Shaw, 27 loves shin pads and has a $3.9M AAV through the 2020-21 season.

Chicago traded Shaw to Montreal on June 24, 2016 for two 2nd round picks int eh 2-16 NHL Draft. Those picks were used on forward Alex DeBrincat and defenseman Chad Krys.

Shaw recorded career highs in assists (28) and points (47) in 63 games for the Habs last season. He was credited with 128 hits as well.

Shaw won 47.1 percent of his faceoffs last year while averaging 15:55 per game on the ice. He averaged 2:02 on the ice on the power play for Montreal last year.

He was parts of the Blackhawks’ 2013 and 2015 Stanley Cup championship teams. He has appeared in 67 postseason games with the Hawks in which he has scored 16 goals with 19 assists.

116 thoughts on “Chicago Blackhawks Acquire Andrew Shaw

  1. 3.9 million for a 4th line player? So since 2015, this organization, this GM, this scout has not being able to draft and develop a top 4th line player!!! So he spends money on a popular player to be popular with the fan base? We could have used that money for a top 6 winger? No he needs to trade!!!

  2. Wow, he trades Shaw for DeBrincat and Krys and requires him for a 2nd, 3rd and 7th and people are crying? Go back to the bottle folks.

  3. Shaw was top line in MTL. He is a 2nd line player and those kind of player get a lot more then 4m caphit. Look at what Hayes got, overpay for too many yrs in ufa.

  4. 2010 champs. Please don’t watch then. Go join the blues new band wagoners. Brilliant trade giving up very little for a guy coming off a career year who brings a ton of qualities and grit this team sorely needs. A 4th line player who drives opponents crazy( we had that type of guy on every title team) is physical, a good defender who should help our pk and should score I’d say at least 12-15 goals with 20 not out of the question if he’s healthy. Dudes only 27 and not cheap but not expensive either. Great move that becomes brilliant once we get Anisomov off the payroll. With what we gave up not sure how any hawk fan could be mad at this. Thx Montreal for also giving us what turned into the cat and Chad Krys. Stan is on a hot streak. Keep em coming trade Anisomov and add a forward or two or trade some younger dimension for a top 4 guy if he can. I know it’s a bit of a dream but I say try and bring back bread man if he will come on 3-4 year deal in 9- 10.5M range per year.

  5. I posted Shawzer name other day, when you guys said Bowman said he was looking for a good two way checking line center FW. 65 does moar then juct checking line center. Net front presence and PK. 65 does it all.

  6. Don’t get me wrong, I like Shaw, but bringing back players didn’t really work with: Sharp; Kruger; Saad; Oduya; or
    Campbell. Hasn’t Stan learned his lesson?

  7. Panarin isn’t coming back to Chicago. He told them thanks but no thanks. Move on…

    if Bowman can add Anders Lee and get rid of Anisimov this offseason is a terrific success for me.

  8. When Bowman said other day that we were going to be very deep and strength down the middle. Did he mean 19 17 77 65 kind of deepness.

  9. I’ll take this trade as a big positive for us. We just got grit, heart, and someone who can play in every situation on any line, if needed, for two picks that we are probably going to get back from somewhere else. This guy also changes a locker room for the better, and will push back against aggressive opponents. The 2019 Blackhawks sorely need some of this and now they have it with a familiar face.

  10. There are some who actually like Stan’s moves lately. What this tells me is some of the free agents might be pricing themselves to high. We will see in the next few days. The Hawks are a better team than what we ended with. How about these lines:

    Toews/Kane/Lee
    Strome/Dcat/Kub or Perlini
    Saad/Shaw/Sikura
    Kampf/Cags/Quen

    Keith/Gus
    DeHaan/Seabs
    Maata/Murphy (Henri) if murph is traded hopefully.

    I actually like Sikura, reminds me of Vermette or Teuvo T. Just needs to find the back of the net.

  11. Night and day difference. 20 and 65 are in prime of prime yrs. THose other guys 10 27 and others are in their 33-40 window yrs.

  12. Tab-you think Anders Lee is still in play? Anisimov and a D player would almost certainly have to go for that to work, right? I’m on with AA going.

  13. I like your thinking of a Quenneville-Shaw-Caguilla line.

    Thats a line with bad intentions.

  14. If you think bringing Shaw back means we now are a gritty team your nuts ,Shaw has had his bell rung more than Liberty herself . He misses 20 games a year ,put him with Caguilla and they will miss 50 games between them . And Mo you posted Shawsers name the other day but you also said the Bruins were winning the cup…all day long .
    Stan has this sorry knee jerk reaction ,lack of vision and lack balls to make a real n.h.l. deal .

  15. I don’t think Shaw is worth his cap hit.

    “if Bowman can add Anders Lee and get rid of Anisimov this offseason is a terrific success for me.” (Tab) — Yes. That would be very good.

  16. So let’s do this:

    the Blackhawks are no longer in cap hell. They actually have some good depth now. and prospects coming.

    so take the cap hit off Shaw for a moment and consider the player. Do we like the player?

  17. Love the players. He was 25th in the league in 5-on-5 goals-for per 60 minutes at 1.19, ahead of the likes of Nikita Kucherov and Joe Pavelski. He had a 52.3 percent Corsi, and the Canadiens scored 63 percent of their high-danger goals with him on the ice. -Credit to Mark Lazerus for that info.
    Cap hit isn’t that bad.
    Look at Kevin Hayes—just signed for double the money and about the same production. Love the move.

  18. Your are all nuts complaining about draft picks for a guy that goes to the blue paint and had 50 points last year and is still in his 20s. Ohh and by the way it’s Andrew Shaw. I’ve moved on from Panarin, I love the guy but seriously what does this guy want, kind of getting old…. I doubt Panarin will ever win a cup but will be sitting on a pile of money…. The target is Lee. Bowman your making moves, which is what we need so make it happen. Bowman will be graded heavily at the end of next season. We have two new solid defenseman. I think Dehaan is way better than Maatta, but like I said moves are being made which is good and we will see at the end of the season. GO GET LEE. Next year is going to be nuts anyway with Debrincat, Crawford and Strome as far as contracts go, so make the moves this season, because next year we have a whole new set of problems. If Stan can navigate all of that this year would be pretty cool. I might actually stop asking for his resignation….Like I said moves are being made

  19. Yea I don’t get the people that think Panarin is still a possibility. He’s gone. He’s going to get paid more than 19 & 88. Let that sink in for a moment.

  20. Shaw had a couple concussions, knee injury and neck injury the last couple years. He hasn’t played a full season since he left. I like Shaw, and Caggs is Shaw like and maybe it’s great to have 2 guys like that on the team, but the injury stuff scares me. Maatta and DeHaan same situation. It’s not inconceivable to see none of those 3 playing a full season…well we know DeHaan it out till after Thanksgiving. This worries me.

    Does this impede us from getting Lee or even Dzingel? I sure hope not. Anisimov for sure is gone after this, but can we still afford grabbing Lee or Dzingel? With Strome and Cat up next year, not so sure. Maybe if we move Murphy, we have too many D guys that’s for sure. Which brings me to the next subject; would we have still traded for Maatta if we knew we were picking up DeHaan? Strictly for cap reasons as both seem redundant.

    I’m scratching my head with what Bowman is doing this offseason. We need a top 6 winger, don’t think Shaw is going to be the guy or reliable enough.

  21. Knox, we prob can figure out those caphits then to. 15 7 50 4 do not have to stay if need be to make it fit. I am not worried one bit about the caphits. Bowman and crew have that all planned out. We paid our dues for those two yrs. Now its back on.

    Game off. Game on. Game off. Game on.

  22. I’ve pounded on Bowman (and rightly so) numerous times for his idiotic transactions (last summer is textbook example) over the last few years. Not to mention firing Q during the season and leaving the green, rookie coach out to dry. Bowman cost the Hawks making the playoffs last year to cover his own behind. Classless, selfish moves.

    That being said, this is another good trade. No question. Strome was a good trade. Caggulia was a good trade. De Haan was a good trade. Shaw is a winning player, this is indisputable. He can play up and down the lineup. I like him better on the wing regularly, but he can play center as needed as well.

    You have to be 12 forwards deep for certain to make the playoffs and compete for the Cup. Boston’s 4th line was better than their top line at times in the playoffs. St Louis had a cotton candy path all playoffs (the goalie mid season saved them), but their 4th line was solid and played steady minutes as well. You can’t win the Stanley Cup playing Kane 20-25 minutes a game; he was exhausted near the end of the season.

    Shaw is a young, tough proven, clutch player. Good job again by the smug, pansy ass Bowman.

  23. The risk on Shaw is injury history. If he is healthy this is a great move – a guy that plays a two way game up and down the lineup, puts points on the board and plays with a lot of sandpaper. I would surprised to get Lee as he will likely get at least 6 years, possibly 7 which is too much IMO for a 28 year old that is no speed demon to begin with. A couple of things seem certain, SB is not done wheeling and dealing and some folks will hate any deal he makes. With the additional depth we will have some real competition for the last few roster spots this year.

  24. Respect your pinpoint critique of the moves roster were doing. I want the as much as perfect roster as you to.

    Phil/MS, where are you guys. Get the keg at Swig ready and I am pumping.

  25. I think AA goes to Columbus or NY for a couple picks. Hawks pitch Anders Lee, hopefully. Then, they also sign a faceoff/PK guy too. Maybe bring in Dzingel too.

  26. Wow. Did not see this one coming. But as posted in Tab’s assessment he is coming off a career year in assists and points. And he is still very young and provides a net presence (and goodness knows the Blackhawks needed that last season). And Blackhawks still have cap money left.
    There are still guys out there that can be added to bolster the F/C positions. Defense may be finished in terms of Stan’s moves, but definitely it appears there are more moves to be made prior to training camp. I can’t complain about this. And I don’t think this is the move that Stan was talking about when he discussed bringing in a centerman to relieve the strain on Toews. Things are looking up.

  27. Those, stats, were 60 games not 82. Stats are stats, its the quality of player is what matters. Like, Travis, is having that mojo, the swagger, the schniza, is what matters. Deepness is what it takes.

  28. This is a great move. And as has been said in response to the blathering fool who hates anything and everything SB or any of his scouts do, free agency has not yet begun. If we grab Lee or Dzingel, then I agree that this has been an outstanding off-season. AND THAT’S ALL I HAVE TO SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Morrison, do you have anything more to say? I always LOVE reading your 20 or 30 posts on every topic.

  29. Shaw gets pounded every night and DOES NOT CARE. That fact just pisses opponents off more after they do their worst to get back at him. All the while they have forgotten their game plan….

    WELCOME BACK 65!

  30. If people are ok with my funny comments. I bring the swagger and ‘right’ mojo to the party.

  31. A team needs players like Shaw. If he can get 15 goals, 40+ points and 100+ hits it is a good trade. I can bitch about the money but it isn’t too high.

    Were there any rule changes regarding the puck and the head this off season?

  32. some possible line combinations even if Stan doesn’t add anyone tomorrow..
    Kubalik-Toews-Kane
    Cat-Strome-Perlini
    Saad-Anisimov-Shaw
    Caggiula-Kampf-Wedin
    extra forwards: Quenneville, Sikura
    or

    Kubalik-Toews-Kane
    Cat-Strome-Sikura
    Saad-Anisimov-Perlini
    Caggiula-Kampf-Shaw
    extra forwards : Quenneville, Wedin

    I’m assuming Kampf and Perlini sign and I’m not married to any of these line combinations but I think it’s illustrative of how much better this lineup already potentially looks compared to the lineup that began the 2018 season..even adding a less expensive forward like Tanev tomorrow would be beneficial in my opinion..but adding Tanev and/or Donskoi along with subtracting Anisimov(perhaps Dach centers our 3rd line) would be great, if possible..not sold on Lee signing(only because I don’t think Stan wants to sign anyone to a 5 or 6 year term)..this is only speculation, but I think Stan wants the next two longer contracts to go to Cat and Strome..he envisons them being part of the new ”core” for lack of a better term..

  33. Stan has this preoccupation with bringing back ex players and
    has beens …any other g.m. in any sport so hung up on it ?

    What i see happening here is spots in the line up being consumed with worn pieces and lack of space for player ,youth development .

  34. Well for all the haters Ryan Reeves makes 2.75 and how much is Kevin Hayes making? This was a good move. All we hear is the Hawks need to fix the D. Well they addressed some of that. The Hawks need more depth scoring and sandpaper. They did that to, and there are still fans complaining.

  35. I don’t know what Shaw did in Montreal, but he is a far better winger than a centre. With us he was always too busy charging in to chase the puck to remember that centers have greater defensive responsibilities than wingers and have to be ready to transition (both ways) at the drop of a hat. If he can play as 2RW with 17/12 then he might be worth his salary. If not, he is potentially a highly paid bottom 6 winger. I don’t see the deal as being clear cut one way of the other.

    As well, I would have preferred to trade a pick and a prospect as part of the deal (ironically Krys comes to mind) rather than a second and a third.

  36. Tab, “so take the cap hit off Shaw for a moment and consider the player. Do we like the player?” – yes. He can be a good 3rd line guy or a very good 4th liner.

    Maybe I can’t shake the real cap problems they’ve had and moves they were forced into? And I hope Bowman keeps future contracts for D’cat and Strome in his plan.

  37. Bob McKenzie reporting that Isles are favorites for Panarin which means that Lee is going somewhere new. Also said that Dallas will sign Pavelski (3 yrs – $7m per yr) and possibly Corey Perry.

  38. There is 8M left in cap room and the roster is at 18. There’s a smidge more work to do. And everyone saying trade AA. Name one team rumored to have said we need that guy!

    Maatta meh
    de Haan ok
    Shaw another munchkin

    Stan needs to go

  39. With the Toews-Kane window in mind, Stan gave up assets that MIGHT help in 3-5 years, at the end or outside the window. Giving up virtually nothing for an affordable win now player inside the Toews-Kane window is brilliant.

  40. Stan is having a very good off-season, acquiring solid-good players to a near play-off level squad while fixing the holes that kept them from the playoffs.

    A very good off-season.

  41. Well be fine for caphits/salary cap going forward. Like that other person said before we ll get those picks back later, we always do. Even though we didnt add extra picks, this draft, we had extra players like how may 5-7 Defensemen that we used along with extra FW per say. Were fine for those things.

    Who do we have coming in 2-3 coming yrs. A very good young wave of good players.

  42. Do we like the player? Yes. Yes, we do. I for one am very glad to have Shaw back in a Hawks sweater.

  43. My wishlist for tomorrow goes as follows:

    D-Cat and Strome announce 3-4 year bridge extensions.

    Hawks sign Anders Lee (no more than 6 years)

    Hawks unload Anisimov to Ottawa (after having paid his bonus)

  44. I like the Shaw trade. He can play either wing or center, he can play on any line – he’s about as versatile a player as you will find. But more than that is the “tough to play against” and “take no prisoners” attitude he plays with, every game, which the Hawks are lacking in sufficient quantity.

    I love shin pads.

  45. Laffin is correct. Kevin Hayes has been an average player his entire career w the Rangers. He’s an east coast cocky ass. How was he in Winnipeg, especially in the playoffs? When’s the last time the Flyers made a practicable free agent signing?

    $7M plus cap hit for Hayes was is and will always be a joke. He’s not a winning player; Shaw is. Worst case, Shaw will go on injured reserve at some point and the Hawks will still be able to use the cap space. After he helps them win Cup #4.

    I can’t stand Bowman bc he has no balls as a person, but this is another good trade by him. Anisimov has to be on the move after his bonus is paid tomorrow.

  46. OK, time for a sanity check … I mean a salary cap check.

    After adding Shaw to the roster, the Hawks have $8M in cap space. However, that’s with only 8 forwards on the NHL roster (Toews, Kane, Saad, Anisimov, Shaw, Caggiula, Strome, DeBrincat). They will to add 5 forwards which will eat up a bunch of that $8M.

    Let’s add Sikura ($750K), Quenneville ($750K), Kubalik ($925K), Kampf ($925K ?) – those 4 will use $3.35M which would leave $4.65M with one more forward to add to the roster.

    However, that whole $4.65M can’t be used to sign a player because the team needs at least $1M for in-season moves for things like injury call ups, not to mention a possible TDL acquisition.

    So now the usable 2019/20 cap space is down to $3.65M. That won’t get you Lee or any of the other top UFAs. Other moves can be made (trade Anisimov) to free up more cap space – but that’s only for 2019/20. Re-signing Cat/Strome/Caggiula will require 2020/21 cap space – where’s that going to come from?

  47. I’m amazed at all the Stan hate for what is another outstanding trade by Bowman

    He is on a roll and nice to see the shoe on the other foot regarding salary dumps

    The Hawks need someone like Shaw as I’ve been saying for a while hence my support of acquiring possibly Kadri or even Perry – now no need for either of those two

    Shaw plays a role that successful teams need filled and Stan did it for less than he than he got back for trading Shaw in the first place

    So now the Hawks have Shaw and DeBrincat (and Chad Krys) for a 2nd and a 3rd round draft pick – that’s outstanding and that’s how a good GM builds a winning team

    …and people are complaining – wanting Bowman fired – unbelievable!!

  48. ER – good recap on cap situation

    Maybe if you trade Murphy as well as AA and don’t bring CC back after this year or bring him back at a reduced rate they could sign Lee and then DCat and Strome next year as well but it would be tight

    Possibly they’re thinking Dach is their new top 6 guy whether it’s this year or next and they pass on Lee

    Scoring isn’t really the Hawks problem after all – sign or trade for a good PK forward and maybe Stan calls it done

  49. Wrap, yea you got to look at the whole pic with trades and this wraps up or docks the boat with the salary cap must move. Now you can compare debate like or whine it. Overall its not having Shaw for two paying your dues yrs and Debrincat for a 3rd. Sphincter says what.

  50. Another popular retread past their prime! (Ladd, Sharp, Shaw)
    This is pure McDonough…when you expect not to reach the Stanley Cup Finals it is important to find a way to fill the seats with fools gold – nothing does this better than bringing back popular retreads for the fans to build false hope around (you know, the way the Cubs used to manage their fan base).
    Bowman hasn’t won anything with a team he has built…still riding the White/Tallon core into the ground. Lucky for him his boss (McDonough) knows less about hockey than he did baseball.
    What must Toews and Kane be privately thinking of these front office clowns? Do they have to be “satisfied” with three rings because current management hasn’t a clue? Yeah the Hawks will retire their numbers and they’ll be inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame, but how many Cups could they have won if not for stumbling, bumbling management? The Bickell and Seabrook contracts have forced one knucklehead trade and retread after another. Here we go again.

  51. You’re right Peter they should win the cup every single season, anything less is absolute failure. Just fold the franchise

  52. Sign a Center tomorrow such as Bellemare. Trade Anisimov for draft picks to a team that needs a consolation prize.

    One thing is clear, Stan is planning to take on the blues playing a sand paper style. DeHaan and Maatta are bigger more experienced defenseman. Shaw plays in your face hockey.

  53. Anyone beating the Tallon won Chicago 3 cups drum hasn’t done their research

    And where is the evidence that McD is influencing hockey trades – there isn’t any

    Bowman built the Cup teams in 2013 and 2015

    And sure the Bickell and Seabrook contracts have created problems for the Hawks but there was no way for Stan to know that Bicks had MS plus show me a GM without a bad contract or two on their resume

    Shaw fills a role that the Hawks need and for a middling cap hit and he was acquired for less than Bowman got back for trading him plus the Hawks now have DCat – sorry I don’t see the problem with this trade

  54. Not happy about giving up 2nd and 3rd rd picks, but Shaw is some gritty sandpaper with skill. Can adjust up and down the lines. Not afraid to go to the net and dirty areas. No one can head-butt the pick like Shaw. Not too bad a cap hit. Hawks are quickly shedding their soft players.

  55. Fill out the roster now, this draft trades ufas summer. The the young wave makes us that much stronger as we go along.

  56. Another nice move if healthy.

    I see 8.5M in space that can be realistically dumped in AA and Maatta. That’s enough space for Lee and Puljajarvi, and possibly a top 4 D at the TDL if needed.

    ER the 2020 cap space comes from Crow’s expiring contract and buying out Maatta if we don’t flip him. Perhaps the expansion draft helps too.

    Two more moves please.

  57. One of the things I really like about Bowman ans crew, is when we have to pay our dues we do it all the way. Like after 2010 and then we can reload better like we did going into 13-16. Then we had to salary cap again and we did what we had to, and got two top 6 skill players from that. Now were “game on” and adding good players.

    Its full pay your dues to reload better and full game on to make roster deep each time we do it.

  58. Ottawa is a cap floor team and currently need to add about $11M to their cap to reach the mandatory floor. Ottawa is also a (low) budget team which looks for deals to pay less in actual salary than the cap hit – Anisimov is just such a deal. Anisimov’s AAV is $4.55M, but his actual salary in 2019/20 is $4M ($2M signing bonus due on July 1st, and $2M paid throught the season) and $3M in 2020/21.

    Therefore, if the Hawks pay Anisimov his $2M signing bonus on July 1st and then trade him to Ottawa – Ottawa has to pay him only the remaining $2M in actual dollars in 2019/20 and only $3M in actual dollars in 2020/21 – but they get to use the entire $4.55M AAV against their salary cap both years.

    If the return for Anisimov was Pageau – it would also work to an advantage for Ottawa from a AAV versus actual dollar outlay. Pageau’s AAV is $3.1M but his actual take home pay is $3.4M – $300K more than his AAV. So in this case, by trading Pageau, they won’t have to pay more in actual dollars than they get credit for on their salary cap.

    A Pageau for Anisimov trade will gain them $1.45M against their salary cap ($4.55M – $3.1M) while at the same time save them $1.4M in actual dollar outlay ($3.4M – $2M).

    Anisimov’s scoring stats are better than Pageau’s but Pageau plays PK and wins faceoffs. In my opinion Pageau is a better fit for what the Hawks need in several areas – PK, faceoffs, and expiring contract.

  59. Travis, yeah Crawford comes off the books but he will need to be replaced and that goalie will cost something – so Crawford leaving doesn’t net the Hawks $6M to be used in re-signing Cat and Strome.

    There are some armchair-GM ways to work Lee into the lineup but I have yet to see one that makes the Hawks a better overall team – defense, offense, goaltending and special teams.

  60. Travis, oops – I hit post too soon.

    The other part of your post you say dump Anisimov and Maatta to get Lee, Puljujarvi and have a little left over for the TDL. First dumping AA and Maatta is not going to net $8.5M because someone will need to replace those players in the lineup. At the very least it will cost $1.5M-$2M to replace AA and Maatta so the net cap space is more like $6.5M-$7M. That might not be enough to sign Lee, let alone also Puljujarvi and have some left for the TDL.

    But more than the salary cap perspective is the fact that while you’re strengthening the team in one area (offensively with Lee), you’re weakening in another area (defensively with Maatta’s replacement). The biggest need that needed to be addressed this summer was team defense – not offense.

  61. Loved Shaw on the CUP teams! He was great on that 4th line, energy, grit and leadership which is where he belongs on a CUP team! We still do not have an elite winger that can play with Toews or Kane! Elite being a solid size and skilled player. Saad can play with Dach. And we certainly have nothing in Rockford. Now, maybe none are out there anyway so if you want Shaw back, why not offer Sikura and or Dalstrom? Why a 2nd and a 3rd? Shaw will be awesome in the room that’s obvious. Maybe they get Dzingel on a hometown discount? Plus, Enwhistle could have been a Shaw type guy in the lineup and cheaper this season. Once again, they may start the season without a real rookie prospect. (Entwhistle, Dach, Joki? ) When do these guys graduate? Plus, is Crawford healthy? Delia is another Darling so will Bowman go for Kincaid or gamble on Lankinen? Spending all the money available on a 3rd or 4th line forward is a heavy price to pay but also confirms Bowman’s inability to develop anyone like Shaw since 2015? Or anyone to replace Hossa. If they trade AA and slot Dach in the number 3 spot, more cap relief to maybe go after another free agent.

  62. Good thoughts. Might have been the way they would trade 65 so that why we did that. We want 65 thats what we have to give.

    In terms of salary cap for coming yrs. It looks like we have a couple or more players that can be moved, when needed, and will get us what we need or want to do. Looks to have plenty of flexibility for us to do what we need and want.

  63. Hull, I agree that an expendable player or two, like Sikura or Dahl, rather than both 2nd and 3rd round picks. Lots of good players in 2nd, such as, Alex Vlasic, our future stud. Most concerning: Shaw missed 64 games with MTL, mainly concussions. He cannot continue to play like a big power forward. This makes his cap hit for the next three years that much riskier. Between him and the two d-men we just acquired, all are injury prone.

    However, I disagree that Shaw is just 4th line quality. He has become more skilled and can contribute as middle-six. Good stats this past season: GP: 63 Pts: 47 +17.

  64. This move in bringing back Shaw reflects comments StanBow made in an interview with Kuc. StanBow wants a 3rd line that will free up the Toews line defensively against the opposing top line. You need to roll four effective lines to win. Shaw brings his obvious grit, hard to play against, net presence, PK, secondary scoring and energy. It’s ok to pay him close to 4 mildo for his likely 3rd line role because the Cat and Strome on the 2nd line are still on their inexpensive entry contracts. As the younger players emerge Shaw could be traded next season or exposed in the expansion draft to free up his salary.
    I’m glad to have him back even if it was a surprise. StanBow is still cooking and we’ll soon see what he serves up next.

  65. Late on this but…

    This is a good trade. One big thing thats not being mentioned is the slow starts and I remember Seabs saying the dressing wasnt quiet but not loud either. I think they need some yap in there to get them revved up and Shaw supplies that. He’ll also get them charged up on the ice too. Remember all those games where it looked like they were sleep walking?

    TAB–I would love Anders Lee but I cant see how. We need cap space for next summer. Where does that come from? Crawfords expiring contract? Where else?

    I see 1 yr contracts for UFA’s tomorrow happening and Anisimov probably gone too.

    Kampf and Perlini still to be signed. Thats another 2.8-3.0 subtracted off the cap space.

  66. ER I think our math isn’t lining up somewhere.

    Say we gain 5.5M from trading AA and Maatta. Plus the 3.5M you accounted for is 9M. Lee and Puljajarvi remove two other forwards, say Sikura and Quenneville, so we save 1.5M more. They are on two way contracts. So 10.5 in space to acquire them. Give Lee 7 and Puljajarvi 2. 1.5M fills one more forward spot, preferably a PK face off specialist, and we still have a 1M cushion for callups by your analysis.

    At the TDL use that cushion and whatever LTIR we have to make a move, presumably a D rental.

    Am I missing something?

  67. Remember we can use 8.1 m over the cap during the summer. Only need to be at by OCT.

  68. Even though were good at OFF, we didnt have 9 top 9 players last yr nor a very good 4th line. We now have that.

    Roll 4 lines!

  69. Good trade.

    Possible lines:

    Cags-Toews-Kane
    DCat-Strome-Shaw
    Saad-Dach-Perlini

    Suddenly we look pretty damn good.

  70. I like the Shaw add. SB has made some good moves to make this team better so far via the draft and new signings. Bowman is more than likely not done with the forwards mix. Bringing Shaw back also points to one of the issues that must be addressed for the upcoming season and that is the penalty kill. It simply must improve in a big way via more committed players and an improved system that is more aggressive on the puck.

    Let’s Go Hawks!

  71. With 8 D, swap Koekkoek fir Kubalik, thats 9 fwds same caphit, Perlini, Kampf, Sikura and Queenneville cost of all be 3.5-4m. Move AA and gain .5 to 1m more in space. Sign Lee for 6m and still have 2.5-3m, plus a salary if you wanted another 1 yr move. Lots of room this year.

    If as some think Crawford wants to resign another year, he could do similar to what Smith is expevted to do in Edmonton. 2m capphit and 2m in bonuses that don’t count. Thats a 4m savings plus a Dmam or 2 for Rfas next year. Moving one during season will cover bonus overage risk also for next year.

    Hopefully his health holds up this year and if not Delia and Lankinen are ready.

    If goalies come in at 3m next year combined hit, defense with Joki and Boqvist plus say Dahlstrom at 7th guy, would be under 24 m with 4 big salaries returning. That leaves 57m for fwds if cap goes to about 84m as expected. 36.9m for 19, 88, 20, 65 and Lee. Maybe 15m range to sign 12, 27 and Kubalik, if 11, 64, 95 and Quenneville come in at 3.5m plus Dach and somebody else on elc. Then for 20-21
    36.9 for big 5 contracts fwds
    15 rfas next summer fwds
    3,5 rfas this sumner fwds
    1.8 elc
    26.7 D and goalies

    83.9m could be done

  72. As far as defensively, if a good bottom 6 pk fwd added for a year with Lee, improves defense further this year, say a Dach and Entwistle replace him and Cagguila, defense is there with more offense next year. Probably Boqvist replaces Gus so no loss on D there and Joki in should bring alot more to the table then who replaces, coupled with Collitons system becoming better should be big improvement all around with those moves. Even a Kurashev make it too could be done.

    Also not sure if he makes it, but no reason for Bowman not bring over Shalunov next year, last year to sign him to elc, so keeping retaining his rights is gone. Plus Kayumov saying be coming another year too. Maybe in picture, make Kubalik like Kahun next year, with arbitration possibly causing a monkey wrench with him and Cagguila.

  73. Saad Toews Shaw
    Kubalik Dach Kane
    Dabrincat Strome Perlini
    Quenneville Anisimov Caggulia

    The preseason is to find the players to bring up. The start off the season is to find chemistry. We can start with this. Any of the players we have not listed here and any future moves can change it. Kampf, Saarela, Sikura…..

  74. Not only do these moves make a better team from the fans perspective but they also make the team better to prospective free agents. Sure they want the big money but they also want to be on a team with grit, scoring and decent defense. I expect Bowman to make a big aquisition July 1.

  75. JR

    Lee Toews Kane
    Debrincat Strome Kubalik
    Saad Dach Shaw
    Cagguila/Quenneville Fa Kampf/Perlini

    With what Pucklogic saying looks pretty good too.

  76. We just got a piece of the puzzle that we need, Shaw ( iff he stays healty and is more mature ) can make a very big impact on the team. He is a good mix …goes in front of the net …will not let Crow get hit without making somebody pay for it . He is a Warrior and everybody knows that in the league…he plays with energy ,grit, evt ect…..
    Dach Will Not Play a full in Nhl this season …maybe a few game but he needs to go back in Junior like Boqvist last year and propably this year also …let the kid grow up and become man
    Very happy with the change so far, 2 dmen + Shaw .
    And its not over yet …GO HAWKS GO

  77. One other option, if Lee not signed use capspace to take Horton ltir from Leafs with Frederick Gauthier league minium salary, a big pk, shutdown C and fo guy, for a depth player. Both contracts expire next summer. Probably only reason they would part with Gauthier.
    2010 agree Dach a long shot but can see a month or 2 audition.

  78. Travis, maybe my math is off, but I don’t think so. Layout your proposed lineup with each player’s AAV listed – add them up and see what you get. Make sure to have 13 forwards, 7 d-men and 2 goalies. Then, if you can get that to work for 2019/20 – look forward to 2020/21 and figure out how to re-sign Cat, Strome, Caggiula and a replacement for Crawford. Then look at the overall team and ask yourself if the team is better for adding Lee or worse?

  79. Rangers clearing money……Panarin landing spot…….. Vessey to Buffalo. Toronto also clearing dollars.

  80. Ian – pretty sure Lee isn’t going anywhere for 6 mil – more like 8

    the Hawks won’t be going there IMO

  81. That was supposed to be a “done?”. Anyone else heard that? Also heard Carpenter to Hawks. Is that confirmed?

  82. Roamn, I like your thinking with those lines and how much top quality of balance each line has. Really makes us deep, again.

  83. Shaw’s contract runs through 21/22 at $3.9M AAV. In digesting this some more, I think this was not a good move for the following reasons:

    1. Is injury prone, as I posted earlier. Expect him to miss part of the season.
    2. Trading away 2nd and 3rd round 2020 picks for a system lacking in quality FW/G.
    3. Prevents early extensions from getting done for DCat and Strome.
    4. Less opportunity to bring up a forward to make the club.
    5. May lower the trade value of AA, Dahl, KK, Gus, and others now that our roster is overcrowded (including the signing of Carpenter).

    Shaw is a good player when healthy and provides excellent leadership. The Hawks now may have enough talent to make the playoffs but not enough to make a deep run. Moves should mainly be made with the focus on 20/21, when our young pipeline and Dach get some experience this season and are ready to become full-time players the following season. This move is probably Bowman trying to save his job by just making the playoffs.

  84. That’s right, 3rd rd 2021. Still, trade not worth it. Here are some 2nd round picks in this year’s draft who have a decent chance of eventually making their big club:

    FW: Arthur Kaliyev, Bobby Brink, Raphael Lavoie, Nils Hoglander, Nic Robertson. D: Matthew Robertson. G: Hunter Jones.

  85. Original – we’ll have to disagree on Shaw

    I think this trade was made with the T and K window to win a Cup in plain sight not to save Stan’s job which is already safe idf the extension runners are true

    Shaw could be part of another run – his contract is 3 years about the length of the window – when is a 2nd in next year’s draft or a 3rd in the ’21 draft going to be ready to contribute – not likely before the T and K window is shut

    Plus the Hawks need what Shaw brings – energy, attitude, do anything to win, block shots, score on rebounds and tips, forecheck, play anywhere in the line up, leadership plus if AA gets traded maybe he fills in at 3C until Dach is ready

  86. Granted the injury history with Shaw is a legit concern but injuries can happen to anyone anytime – it’s a risk worth taking IMO

  87. Wrap, of course injuries can happen to anyone but, as I posted earlier, Shaw missed 64 games in three years. He has developed into more of a skilled player in recent years. He is a solid middle-six center/winger. Who wouldn’t love his aggressive play for his size, but this has led to injuries. To stay healthy, he cannot keep sacrificing his body. He needs to adjust his game by becoming less aggressive and focusing more on his improved skill, which will increase his longevity.

    I know that a 2nd rd pick does not get brought up for 2-4 years (if at all). My point is that the Hawks should be making room for a FW prospect while freeing up cap space and replenishing their system, which is lacking in quality forwards.

  88. Original6hawky, I totally agree with you. The Shaw trade was not worth it.
    Chicago should be trying to pick up extra draft picks not trade them away.
    Giving up assets for injury prone players that will only play about 60 games a year is not smart. Andrew Shaw is damaged goods. 3.9 million could have been spent more wisely. If Shaw is so important why would Montreal trade him in the first place?
    Making room for prospects and adding cap space to replenish the system is bang on as well.

  89. A lot of criticism for a known entity who will give you exactly what you are expecting. He will bring life to the building and inject energy into those who have been lacking it the last couple of years. Period.

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