Alex DeBrincat Drop Blues In OT In Duncan Keith’s 1,000th Game

Stop me if you’ve heard this before: the Blackhawks took an early lead, gave it away, and went to overtime.

Yes, for the fifth time in as many games to begin the 2018-19 season, the Chicago Blackhawks needed overtime to decide an outcome.

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On the night Chicago celebrated Duncan Keith’s 1,000th career regular season game against the hated St. Louis Blues, things got off to a nice start for the home team. Artem Anismiov scored his first of the year just after a penalty ended to give the Hawks a 1-0 lead.

A little more than four minutes later, Patrick Kane’s power play goal extended Chicago’s lead to two with his fifth marker of the young season.

You almost felt bad for the Blues, diving everywhere to try to keep the puck away from the net. But Kane patiently let everyone block a shot that hadn’t come yet and easily deposited the puck above the yard sale.

At the end of one period, Chicago held a 2-0 lead.

Brayden Schenn scored the only goal of the second period to cut the lead in half. Chicago was short-handed three times in the second period, with the third penalty carrying over 45 seconds into the third.

The start of the third period was not good. David Perron scored his fourth of the year at 1:44 and Schenn gave the Blues their first lead of the night three minutes later.

But the Hawks battled back.

Keith made a terrific play to get the puck to Jonathan Toews who set up Alex DeBrincat for the tying goal at 13:06 into the third.

Neither side would finish their scoring opportunities in the final six minutes and, once again, the Hawks would offer the fans free hockey.

In the overtime period, Schenn had a great breakaway chance to finish a hat trick two minutes into the extra session but Cam Ward came up with a big save.

Immediately on the other end Kane had a good look at the cage but whiffed on a one-timer.

Alexandre Fortin had a terrific night and saw ice time with in the top six during regulation. He got a chance for an overtime shift as well but wasn’t able to get a shot on net.

Inside the final 2:30 the Blackhawks controlled the puck through two full changes. DeBrincat and Kane both had really good chances but weren’t able to find the back of the net.

With nine seconds left in overtime, Erik Gustafsson found DeBrincat wide open on the side of the net. DeBrincat tapped home his second of the night and sixth of the season to earn the second point in the standings.

Somewhat fittingly, in Keith’s 1,000th game, it was Henri Jokiharju who led the Hawks’ defenseman in ice time. The rookie skated 24:04 with five shots on net, one hit and one takeaway.

Kane led all skaters with nine shots on net in a blistering night for Chicago shooters. Jake Allen faced 50 shots in the game, stopping 46 in the loss.

Ward stopped 35 of 38 in the victory.

Brandon Saad, freshly demoted to the fourth line, skated only 10:14 – the second-lowest total for the Hawks. He picked up an assist and put two shots on net, but noticeably spent almost one-third of his ice time (2:43) on penalty kill duty.

The Hawks are now off until Thursday because the schedule makers for the NHL this year suck.

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74 thoughts on “Alex DeBrincat Drop Blues In OT In Duncan Keith’s 1,000th Game

  1. Didn’t see the whole game but did see a stretch where the Blues had a few power plays and saw Kampf get hit from behind and no whistle?

    On the tying goal we saw another example of the genius of Debrincat-that release was special.

    Again some poor stretches of defensive play that will hurt them during the year.
    Joki made a couple of brain fart plays-but he will be good!

  2. Our speed was very noticeable tonight – easily the best 4 line contribution of the year. D-cat’s release is among the best in the league, that third goal was sick. Great play by Gus in OT but man he is a horror film defensively.

  3. Flow chart says it all.
    Should not have even been tied 2-2, deserved the lead the whole way.
    Still did what we did, with that no whistle on the icing-gave them 3 goals in a row.
    Whatever.

    We could put a big surge/momentum for next yr and yrs after by playing good this yr and getting better as we go along. By the way were winning.

    Debincat is really good. Sure glad we kept him on the 23man at the start of last yr. and did NOT send him to Rockford.
    Same could be true for Buckaroo.

  4. Yea, it first started with the no whitsle on the icing, then the penaltys.
    They called every one against us, until they tied and had lead.
    Then during that time called none against them, because we were dominating them 28-11 and pissed me off when refs let them board 64 and head hit wall? which again gave them tie/or lead I forget.

    Refs can suck at times, but they cannot let people board people/hurt or they should be allowed to get boarded into wall. Will that wake them up to calling the fucking calls.

  5. Gustafsson redeemed himself after some brutal turnovers. Hawks deserved the win. Totally outplayed the blues. This version of the hawks have been energized by 5hese cardiac kids. Fortin so far looks like he belongs bringing speed all over the ice.

  6. Pure goal scorer, who cares how tall he is? Debrincat has been scoring goals galore his whole life. Kudos to Bowman. These are the kind of difference makers he should be consistently drafting.

    Speaking of Bowman, Q isnt afraid to semi bench Saad since he isnt productive; on the other hand, Q keeps rolling Manning out there, and it’s not pretty. Manning is bringing the team down. You can’t tell me Q doesn’t recognize Manning is a clown.

  7. Man o Man. Cant wait until we got a whole team of our fast guys. Speed and skill.
    Maybe why we drafted guys like the Four Horsemen.

  8. Next game Crawford maybe in goal, Fortin looks like he is staying, unfortunately looks like Saad’s days may be numbered with Q’s post game comments. Hard on nerves but gotta like it.

  9. That’s what i see it Mo, defense that skate with Leafs , Oilers etc. forwards and forwards that can skate circles around their defence, should fun.

  10. The theme continues; a flawed team that is ridiculously fun to watch…

    DeBrincat is the epitome of a guy playing within his means but is still an impact player in the NHL. You don’t need to be six-foot-two to be an impact player in this league. Oh, yeah, Stan drafted this guy, but you know his 3 cups are a fluke,

    Kane and Toews are playing up to their contracts. They earned their $. But you know, trade Kane to Buffalo and Toews to Winnipeg because they are done. Right?

    The Hawks defense was not going to be the story (in a bad way) on Keith’s 100oth game. They were not perfect, but boy did they clean up in their own end. This game doesn’t change the problems the lack of talent on the blue line presents, but boy was it nice to see them play up to the spectacle of Keith;s 100th game.

    Ward is not the reason the Hawks can’t finish in regulation. He isn’t a Vesina guy, but he isn’t the problem either (and he is a ton better than whoever the Hawks trotted out last year…)

    Saad has worked hard despite the results on the scoresheet. The game may have caught up to him, but he is putting in the effort. The points will come, Saader! Don’t stop working no matter where Q places you in the lineup.

    Kunitz needs to eat some pine for a couple games, he was not noticeable (again.)

    Fortin may needs some seasoning, but I already like him better than Hinostroza. He has a future on this team. He will look worse than average and be be sent down again but he will make it back to the NHL roster. Eye test? Pass! Is he top 6? Not sure, but he is a guy who will bring value to an NHL roster. Book it.

    Jokiharyu is good. This is the biggest surprise for me this year, this kid can hang. Yeah it’s only 5 games and anyone can look good for 5 games, but this guy is resilient which is not the first adjective I would use for a 19year old.

    The Hawks left points on the table in regulation, again. Exhibit A: Fortin whiffed on a wide open rebound because he took a path a little too wide of the net. That shot/pass from Kane should have ended up in the back of the net (much like Kruger’s only goal this year…). This is a correctable offense on his part. But it was still an offense on his part…

    Ketith is a warrior, a Hall of Famer, and one of the best players to ever wear the Indian Head. Is he the same guy who won the Conne Smythe and Norris trophy (twice)? yeah.. No, but his is a guy who I still would rather see on my side than the other. Keith is not the reason the Hawks D is suspect. Stop bitching about him.

    This team is a coin flip every night, but it is so fun to watch, I’m hooked. Bitch about Bowman and his moves that didn’t work. Bitch about Q and his Cuisinart lines if you will. Bitch about whatever you want, but this team is FUN TO WATCH. I don’t know if they are going to win or lose on any given night, but I enjoy watching them play. And that is not nothing.

    This team is entertaining and has been in every game they played in this year (whether they deserved to be or not.) And again, as I have said before, that is not nothing.

  11. Q was throwing shade at Saad in the post game presser – I was actually happy with the 4th line and they played 10 – 11 minutes which is where a good 4th line should be however it’s not where Brandon Saad should be if he were playing up to his potential

    Q is definitely sending a message to Saad – he had the second lowest (to Hayden) TOI and Q purposely didn’t put him out in OT

    …and Saad’s job has been taken over for the moment by Fortin

    It’ll be interesting to see if Saad responds positively – he had a nice assist on AA’s goal and generally played well I thought but to be top 6 (and be paid $6M) he has to produce not just be an effective 4th liner

    I have to say I’m not optimistic but would love to be wrong

  12. I spent most of the game cursing Gus and was convinced he’d be responsible for a GWG for the Blues yet he makes a great play for the winner

    not exactly redemption cause he still sucks as a defensive player but he can make a great offensive play as well

  13. On that 2 on 1 with Kane and Fortin, it looked to me that Fortin thought Kane was going to pass it for a tap in so he got to deep to bang in the juicy rebound. Could be wrong. But in either case Fortin was right there in the play with Kane, as he was “in the play” many times tonight. Allen stopped that forehand/backhand right on the doorstep in the 1st but he was right there making a play. He goes to the net, which in and of itself is a rarity on this Hawks team. He made some very good long range tape to tape passes and at least a couple very good plays in the d-zone. All in all I can’t see why Q wouldn’t keep him on the line with Schmaltz and Kane for at least another game or two.

    And a word on Anisimov – he scored in the same way he usually scores – rebounds or tipped shots in close. For as much as he is the whipping boy as far as who to trade to get cap space – he plays a valuable role and he plays it well.

    Is this team exciting or what!

  14. 3-0-2. Tremendous start compared to expectations.
    Would love to see Fortin bury one he has been so close a few times.

    What happened to Ruuta? Rhetorical question. He’s bloody awful. He makes
    Rundblad look decisive.

    Saad should shorten his name to SAD. Because it’s a terrible fall from grace from where he was in 2015. Just a grinder at this point. I truly like Hayden’s game better.

  15. Time to get Saad with Toews and the Cat where he belongs. Kahun is a good bottom line player. Stop the Dog House Q.
    Always liked Gus. He’s high risk passing at times gives him troible but he has a good offensive IQ.
    Kunitz and Manning looked terrible once again.

  16. Hull65, thanks but no thanks. Keep Saad away from our best line. He would only drag Debrincat and Toews down, just like last year.

  17. Agree Saad needs to work it out on a bottom 6 spot.
    Sikura playing well in Rockford could see him on Toews rightside at some point.
    May address Kane line with a winger or could be center in draft and Schmaltz to wing if it improves line but he’s doing a capable job in the middle for now. Kahun and Saad be good set of wingers if Fortin stays in top 6 in that scenario but time will tell on that one.
    If Saad isn’t moved though i’ll be kinda surprised.
    Pretty much agree with all your post Miroslav.

  18. I love it when 88 gets fired up. Fun to watch , especially when he makes 4 to 5 opponents look ridiculously helpless just before he scores.

    Remember when people told us Alex the Cat was not capable of playing big in the NHL. ? I do, and they were wrong about 12.

    28 looks like he will be a longtime resident on the blueline but I can’t for the life of me understand why he had the option to wear that number. Please, can we raise the banner soon?

    1,000 and 1,009 is just pretty damn neat! Nice to see/hear Sharpie back too. A great night of celebration and hockey on West Madison. Wish I could have been there. I’m really proud of my favorite sports team today.

    Hope 50 is good to go Thurs.

  19. Fun, attacking, balls-out hockey. Again. We play that style well. When we get defensive trying to hold a lead (i.e. when we give a shit), it gets ugly. Keep attacking. 2-0 lead, 3-0 lead, doesn’t matter. Keep. Attacking.

    Don’t touch the top line. It’s the first time we’ve had a proper top line in 2 seasons. Kahun ist wunderbar. Er sollte dort bleiben.

    Guys, we took 8 of 10 points without our starting goaltender and 2 top 6 defensemen. Murphy is going to help. Saad is getting some looks. Fortin should bump Kunitz from the lineup if he’s noticeable in the next 3 or 4 games. I agree that Ward is significantly better than Forsberg, Glass, Delia, and Foster (lol).

    Thoroughly outplayed St Louis all night. They got almost all the breaks and posts and calls and had no business getting to OT.

    Great job boys! Pleasure to watch. Please resume not giving a shit.

  20. Good comments all. Watching Blackhawks hockey this season has me in a different state of mind. It is difficult to explain, but I’ll try. First of all, of course I hope they play well and earn some victories, but I don’t expect this team to put on some sort of a hockey clinic that results in a Hawks dominant performance on both ends of the ice. I don’t even expect the Hawks to win like I used to, especially at home games. I just hope to see fun, entertaining hockey. When they make mistakes I am finding myself not getting so bent out of shape, although honestly blatant defensive blunders reman head shakers. Gus, Rutta please, serenity now…Who cares if the Hawks blow leads, and games lurch into OT? Sure the lineup is short(no pun intended), but some young fast skaters are creating LOTs of scoring opportunities so far in this young season. Yes, Kahun and Fortin are so far better to my eye than the Vinny’s North-South game. Those kids seem to have higher hockey IQ’s imo. They can grow. As fans we have to let that process take place. Same with Kid Joki. So having lower expectations for this team is kind of a neat thing for me.Take the points and next please. Who cares how they get them.

    I don;’t know about the rest of you, but watching the Hawks play the Blues twice already this year has me not hating the Blue notes quite as much. Yes the sight of those uniforms still rankles me, but the level of roster assholiness for them has dropped a lot. Of course, some chippy play here or there, but its crumbs compared to what that team used to bring. Weird. Same thing with the Nucks. All the Canuckleheads are gone. Sure, I always hope the Hawks blow out the Blues, and I take special pleasure watching the Blues lose, but it just feels different this year. They just aren’t as hateable as they used to be.

    Any one else notice the distinct lack of physical play in any of these early Hawks games this year? I mean this Hawks team does not have that in their DNA, but it seems as though players just aren’t taking any runs at opposing players. Crosschecking in front of the net looks down too. I haven’t watched anything but bits and pieces from other games, but physical play seems to be down a bit here in the early going.

    Hawks need a quality Crow comeback. Ward some good saves last night , but that stupid pass to Gus on Blues goal 2, and then the soft 5 hole on Blues goal three are on him.

    Good for Duncs and Seabs too! Those guys have been warriors for this team. I was surprised the video tribute didn’t show the memorable Keith double OT 0-3 comeback winning goal playoff road game against the Preds with the lasso celebration. One of my favorite Hawks moments. Thank you Scott Darling too.

    RD good callout on Joki wearing 28. Blasphemous. That one is on management. Raise Larms to the rafters NOW!

    Lets Go Hawks!

  21. Being in Canada I don’t get to see that many Hawk games on TV but I listen to a good number on WGN. Must admit this season has been a pleasant surprise so far. Were we all fooled? This team appears to be way better than anyone – ‘experts’ included – figured. They are definitely still coming together as are all the other teams but one sign of a good team is being in every game, and the Hawks have been that! With key players still on the bench this team should only get better?
    All I want to say is hockey for me is a heck of a lot more fun with the Hawks playing well.

  22. I don’t anybody disagree that Kahun has been a good fit with 12 and 19.
    Sikura not going to be called immediately and given the spot but when your rebuilding things are tried make your lineup work and give it balance. I see Sikura better long term potential on that line, obviously the by look he got in camp they want him in the lineup. Remember the difference in how Schmaltz looked after a short stint in minors and if not one shift is all it takes to put Kahun back.up there.

  23. Phil, I’m right there with you. There is a different mindset this season and I’m enjoying the games irrespective of the outcome. Of course I would rather have them win and that loss to Minny was vexing but it’s probably as much about wanting to see Minny lose than it being important to see the Hawks win. If the Hawks had been playing some team I don’t disdain and they blew the game like they did against the Wild I don’t think it would have “hurt” as much. It would still have sucked but more of a “oh well, that sucked” than a “hair on fire can’t believe they gave the game away to freakin Minnesota” suck. If that makes sense.

    The mindset I had coming into this season is this is a rebuilding year and all I wanted was certain players playing well – Toews to rebound, DeBrincat to not have a sophomore slump, Kahun to be good enough to be a top-9 player, Joki being ready to play in the NHL – all of those have met or exceeded expectations. The others that so far have not been as good as I hoped were Saad to rebound, Schmaltz to take “the next step” and Sikura to be ready to play top-9. Hopefully those trend up soon too.

    So far, so good. Keep it rolling boys.

  24. Miroslav/Travis/some others, most excellent posts. Telling it how it is and with the right attitude for the team. A positive one, the team is headed up from here on. This is just the beginning-this yr. Cant wait until we get the whole package of fast skilled short and small players on 23man.

    We think were fast now and skilled now. Ha wait until then. BOS and now CHI are transitioning to the new league. Where LA, ANA, STL, other top teams will be stuck in the mud with true lockers.

    Ryan Dale- hows it going, eh.

  25. It’s fun to win and among the players there have been pleasant surprises (24, 28), nice comebacks (19), and continued improvements (12). However, we’re giving up 4.2 goals/game which is way not compatible with sustained success. I like winning too, but we haven’t shown much (anything?) in terms of structure, discipline, and responsibility. It will be interesting to see what breaks first — do we start to improve our coverage and play tighter hockey or does the scoring dry up and we ending up on the losing end of these wide open games.

  26. Its TOR style. Top 5 OFF and top 5 GA.
    Its not going to change, the GF or GA. At least for this yr.

    Even when teams tighten up later in the 82 games, it goes hand in hand.
    So 4 GF and GA now, 3 GF and GA then. Same.

    We ll be deep again in a yr and a half, that’s when we ll be good again in GA.
    We ll also still be as good in GF or better.

  27. Ok…..Does Bowman get or deserve any credit for this team. Most of us were clamoring for a power forward to support Toews. SB went out and got Saad but gave up Panarin. Saad has not panned out, who could have known? So SB is just a dope and should be fired immediately. BUT he replace Panarin with Shmaltz (20th pick). DeBrincat at 39th, Jokiharyu 29th and Kahun.
    OK SB you are here for another month. Let’s work on some D

  28. Jordy – interesting question you pose. To me the answer is that this team needs above average offense to compete. With the defensemen we have it is unrealistic to think we can really tighten it up. I believe Forsling is close to returning and he will help but I still can’t see this team successful in a bunch of 2-1 games.

  29. I still think back and laugh at all the comments about trading Seabrook….” [maybe we can trade Seabrook if we throw in Debrincat in the package] ” LOL and replace either or both with who?????
    I thought Q being asked about Saad not playing OT was funny. Most players on the team don’t play OT (right?)

  30. Gus is a torn over nightmare in his own end. Other than that, I love this team. Once they get top D back, things will tighten up.

  31. When there was a stoppage of play at 3:33 in the third with the score tied 3-3, I knew we would, ultimately, prevail.

    Kane’s “above the yard sale” goal should soon be widely available on highlight reels and hockey instructional videos everywhere.

  32. Hey ,.,.just throwing this out there ,.,.Saad is not a defensive reliability ,he works hard ,just lost the touch .
    He is for sure over paid but ,.,.,what role should he assume now ,in his condition ?
    Could he become a defensive specialist ? Does he need a chance on first line going north south ,?.,.has he worked hard enough for a chance .?
    6 million a year is hurting the pay roll but….Saad is a solid player .

  33. It’s fun watching hockey again, and happy to see whatever the funk was in Toews game (cumulative head shots-too much hockey wear and tear?) has dissipated, and he’s back to being a hockey stud again. The Hawks have some exiting up and coming players. Toobad Breadman is gone and we have a shell of the former Saad in his place, otherwise with Crow possibly returning to form, and Breadman here, we could be looking at deep run.
    At least the Hawkds drafts are looking better lately, if not trades and free agent signings, although Ward is holding up some in Crawford’s place.
    also to Gar
    it’s easy to watch hockey at Reddit nhl streams.

  34. Halktalk when Kessel went Pens he struggled on top 2 lines and went down to 3rd line and hooked up with Hagelin and Bonino to become best 3rd line in the league. He of course is back in top 6 since a couple of years but it worked out well.
    There is a possibility something like that could happen. You gotta believe a couple good things happen he gets it going and starts playing right. If Fortin experiment begins to regress and assuming Saad isn’t moved, which is no sure thing, he will likely get another chance at top 6 spot again, before too long. Just hope when he does the the wake call worked.

  35. hola Mo, mi amigo!

    I love the Blues,.. as long as we are kicking their asses most games. I also have a fondness for Philly, Boston and Tampa too……because we kicked their asses when it mattered most.

    I will say that the Blues TV crew is very professional and a first class group. They call a good game and are always respectful of our guys. I can appreciate that.

  36. Thats the thing you need some balance in the lines. Having him down there could be good. I would prefer more speed with him though and hope he can start having fun playing again. Put one of the young guys, some chemistry wuth guy like a Sikura with him and take the pressure of him of trying to make Toews and Kanes lines go, similar to what they did for Kessell with Malkin and Crosby.

  37. Got to watch my first full game of the season, and it was a pleasurable one. The score didn’t reflect how dominant the Hawks were, and the few good looks the Blues got made it to the back of the net, puck luck was going the Blues’ way and the Hawks still pulled out 2 points. Ward was really good too, this team looks a lot scarier than I was expecting. I’m gonna have to plunk down some money to stream the season, this is an exciting part of the rebuild.

  38. I hear ya ER but the Minny game didn’t bother me as much as the Toronto game sitting in a family group of Leafs fans for Thanksgiving. It was exciting but painful outcome ughhhhh!!!

  39. Saad needs to work it out in the press box. This is a trend. He was horrible last year, he is horrible this year, and he had worked his way to the 4th line his last couple of months in Columbus. I would not want to see him on the top line and I certainly would not mess up the Toews line trying to rehab Saad. This is a 2 year trend. I would try getting Hossa to coach him up. It seems like he was the last to have his ear. Give him till mid year and if he can not turn it around, ship him to Rockford.

    If that occurs Bowman needs to be held accountable for one of the worse trades made in the NHL. FA have not been all that productive either. There certainly seems to be concerning trend in the Hawk’s ability to judge NHL talent.

  40. Tortorella wrecked Saad. Torts has wrecked many players in his time, that’s why he only lasts a few years with a team. He burns them out and then he is gone. He tries to be Mike Keenan and we all know where Keenan is now.

    Saad needs to just find his game. He doesn’t have an identity. Is he a power forward? Is he a skilled forward? Is he a speed forward? The guy just looks LOST.

    Q should just tell Saad to go out and play. Do the right things and get to the front of the net and bust your ass on the back check. Keep it simple. I actually feel sorry for Saader. He was a HUGE part of the Stanley Cup runs and now he’s relegated to the 4th line???? C’mon, Saader is better than that.

    If we get Saader going in the right direction and get Schmaltz to shoot the puck, we may be talking playoffs this season.

  41. Saad wearing a white jersey in practice. Luke Johnson in.

    OUCH.

    He was one of 3 players that didn’t take to the ice for the optional skate the other day….after it was known he’d be on the 4th line. His comments about being dropped weren’t I have to be better. Rather he said it’s good to spread the talent around.

    “Brandon Saad on wearing a white jersey in practice: “I don’t think anyone wants to be wearing white around here. But it is what it is. There’s nothing you can do except keep trying to improve. It’s their job to make the call to put the best team out there to win hockey games.”

    The dude is resigned to his fate. Show a little push back man.

  42. It’s one thing to go into a slump – it happens to most players from time to time – but it’s something else altogether to not let it motivate you to break out of the slump. Personalities are hard to read from a distance so maybe Saad has more fire in his belly about this than he shows in interviews – I hope so. Maybe it’s a confidence thing where he can’t pull himself up. I’m sure he heard the talk about him being brought back to help Toews recapture his dominant play and maybe he put too much pressure on himself to live up to those expectations and it has spiraled down ever since. Hopefully he’s working with a psych coach if that’s the issue.

  43. Saad has no one to blame but himself for this benching then. If he showed up to work on his game after learning of the demotion to the 4th line, putting extra time in, he would still be in there cuz Johnson sucks. But how can you reward such a woe-is-me pouty attitude in a team sport?

    People need to stop defending him and saying Q should just let him play through it to find his game. That’s BS. He’s been playing through it for parts of 3 seasons now, and played his way onto the 4th line in each one. This isn’t about coaching. It’s about a guy that can’t figure out where his game went while he’s making $6 million.

    Some guys get soft when they get paid. Seems like Saad is one. Schmaltz is another I would worry about if he starts making big money.

  44. I mentioned before that wasn’t optimistic about Saad for the reasons many are stating here – Where is the sense of urgency? Isn’t he embarassed – he should be?
    Where is the desire to show he’s much more than a 4th liner (or a healthy scratch) and worth a $6M contract?

    Unfortunately it doesn’t look to be there – it’s possible his motivation early in his career was to prove he could play at the NHL level in the top 6 and now that he’s done that he’s nothing to strive for – I hope I’m wrong but that’s the way it looks

    I would expect Toews, Seabs et. al. will be talking to him – but again not optimistic

  45. Sven don’t fall in love with an undrafted German free agent Kahun. He is a 3rd line player at most. Let’s get serious, if Coach Q wants to get him going, you play him with Toews like in the past. Falling in love with Kahun is like falling in love with OSTERLE!!!
    Stop the dog house routine.

  46. 5 games in to his NHL career and he is deemed a “3rd line player at most”. He has shown quickness, vision, shot, hockey IQ, passing, hustle and defensive awareness … but I guess that isn’t enough for some. Saad on the other hand has played uninspired and unengaged hockey for not just the first 5 games this season but all of last season too. So let’s disrupt the Hawks most effective line, one where Toews is finally playing like we hoped he would for the purpose of getting Saad out a year-long slump where he doesn’t bother showing up for optional practice last Saturday when he knew he was demoted to the 4th line. Does that sound like a guy that is busting his ass to work his way out of this or maybe more like a guy that was pouting about being moved to the 4th line.

    I’s a die hard Hawks fan so I want Saad to find his game from a couple years ago as much as the next guy because it would help the Hawks. It just seems I want Saad to succeed more than Saad want Saad to succeed. He has to do it and if it means pouting for a while until he gets his attitude straight then so be it.

  47. Instead you should consider that some free agents who signed with other teams like David Perron, James Neil, Antti Niemi ( a much better goalie than Ward) , John Moore, Halak, Riley Nash, Nick Holden, Wedgewood, Nick Baptiste, Robin Lehner, De Haan, Ian Cole, Blake Comeau, Janmark, Dowd, or Sbisa.

    Oh, by the way if anyone cares, KYLE BAUN is playing in Belfast this season! Now remember the hype with him Mr. Bowman!

  48. I suppose the ‘baby Hoss” thing was a little off the mark. He’s played his way out of any comparisons to 81 at this point. Hopefully he can make a U-turn real soon.

  49. @Hull65 Are you, by any chance, related to Saad? He’s shown nothing to prove that he deserves a spot in Top 6, much less on the top line that’s doing great without him. We don’t know yet how high Kahun’s ceiling is, but he’s been excellent for a rookie playing against the top opposition Toews’s line generally faces. He complements Toews and DeBrinact well, and it’s been our best line. Saad would only ruin it.

  50. I’ve been pining for an edit function here for years. It’s less a case of my spelling and grammar being poor and more a case of my trigger finger being twitchy.

  51. Was talking about Carl and his space comma, an inability to spell a players name, and lack of capitalization on everything.

    We all have a case of fat thumbs and failure to proof read…but come on man at least try. Kind of the sentiment with this thread and Saad. Try…just a little.

  52. I think Saad’s issues are between his ears. Mostly I think, he has a confidence problem. He looks more like Maverick after Goose died, he just can’t seem to engage.

    When he was first coming up with the Hawks and he was going through his rookie ups and downs people were writing the same thing about his temperament and his attitude like they are now. The difference is it didn’t last as long last time. I really don’ think it’s a lack of desire or effort on his part, he just looks like a guy who thinks it’s not going to work before he tries something. He’s indecisive and tentative in the O-zone, He should look into a good sports psychologist, maybe the guy Vinnie Hinostroza used could help him…

  53. Miroslav agree, after all the breaks going against him last season, looks offensively like his confidence is shot he needs to get back to basics and start having fun again, helping himself and the team.

  54. Saad used to take a beating and be completely unphased. I distinctly remember him (particularly in playoffs against LA) getting cross- checked, slashed, hacked and whacked, and he would just skate away and laugh it off. No one could get under his skin. He had the perfect temperament back then. Somethings changed — I don’t know what — but he’s not having any fun these days.

  55. regarding Saad a lack of confidence can lead to a a lack of desire to a point where you don’t put out your best effort because you don’t feel you’re going to be successful anyway

    That’s what I think we’re seeing and idk if he has the temperament to turn it around

    hopefully he does

  56. When we start to understand what a HARD salary cap is, I’ll stop calling out non-sensical babble. A lack of basic 2nd grade grammar makes anything you say look like it was written by well… A second grader. Talking basic universal stuff that hold true in all languages. Capitalize the first letter in a sentence, and put some form of punctuation at the end of a sentence.

    Maybe next time add an alternative you might have done? I didn’t like the Fleischmann/Weise trade when it happened. A lot of people here liked Fleischmann as a 3c. After Weise ended the season, the Flyers thought it would be a good idea to give him a 4 year 2.35 aav deal. So clearly someone else thought he had value AFTER he sucked for a month here. They were wrong.

    The only way Byfuglien would have been kept is if the Brian Campbell and/or the Marian Hossa contracts weren’t signed…by Dale Tallon. If those 2 contracts weren’t signed…the 09/10 cup certainly isn’t in Chicago. Brian Campbell by the way…pretty good defenseman no? He’s 5’10. So all the crap everyone says about small D…shove it.

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