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Blackhawks A No-Show In Philly

The Blackhawks were scheduled to play in Philadelphia on Wednesday night. And 60 minutes of hockey were played at the Wells Fargo Center. But there was nothing to show for the evening’s effort from the defending Cup champions.

Chicago was flat all night, and produced one of the more boring games in recent memory.

After taking four penalties in the first three games of the season, the Hawks were sent to the five times in less than 32 minutes in Philadelphia. Unfortunately, that was the only consistent part of the team’s game in the opening 40 minutes.

The best net-front presence from a Blackhawks player came at 5:35 into the second period, when Viktor Svedberg set a fabulous screen – on Corey Crawford. Hawks killer Sam Gagner, skating for a different team but once again putting the puck in the net against Chicago, put a shot on net that Crawford never saw through the enormous rookie defenseman, and that’s all the offense Philly would need.

Claude Giroux added a goal a little less than 11 minutes later when he was left all alone on the doorstep, and Matt Read put the final nail in the coffin at 17:25 into the third.

Flyers netminder Michael Neuvirth posted his second consecutive shutout, stopping 30 shots in the game; 15 of those 30 came in the third period when the Hawks appeared, at least for a few brief moments, to have a pulse.

Corey Crawford stopped 26 of 29 in the loss.

Ryan Garbutt started the game on the top line with Marian Hossa and Jonathan Toews, but received a one-way ticket to the Coach Q Doghouse early in the game. After taking a high-sticking penalty early in the second period, he found himself stapled to the bench. Garbutt finished with three hits in a team-low 7:24 on the night.

Bryan Bickell dressed for the game, and was credited with four hits and one blocked shot in 10:02. He continues to take up a roster spot and $4 million in cap space and has shown very little evidence that he’s worthy of either so far this season.

Viktor Tikhonov had a nice game, finishing with as many shots on net – four – as Hossa and Patrick Kane had in spite of receiving half as much ice time (9:33). After Garbutt disappeared from the forward rotation, Tikhonov and Artemi Panarin had a couple shifts on the top line.

Even in a garbage performance by the team, Toews was still a box score beast. Chicago’s captain won 15 of 20 faceoffs, was credited with two blocked shots and finished tied with Brent Seabrook and Trevor Daley for the team lead with four hits in the game.

Panarin (20:26) and Kane (20:48) led all Blackhawks forwards in ice time. Duncan Keith predictably led all Blackhawks, skating 24:26.

The Hawks are back on the ice in Washington on Thursday night.

The Flyers honored Kimmo Timonen before the game.

Kimmo Hawks-Flyers

54 thoughts on “Blackhawks A No-Show In Philly

  1. AJ- The 2nd line can Pickup 10-15% more points than last year…

    BUT- the Hawks will still be short 25-35% scoring on 1st line w/o Saad…

    Hawks need help in the forward slot- (unless Dano or Hino come to the rescue) or a trade for LW (Marchand or similar- happens)

  2. Well, it’s going to take some time for chemistry to gel with this team. A lot of new faces, Stanley Cup hangover and an excruciating period of time for all connected to the Kane Incident.

    This team will come together offensively. But a few things to be concerned and/or patient about.

    One, Teuvo can’t legitimately be a LW. That’s sorta silly. If he is to be a wing then with this roster it almost has to be at RW. I shall say this…do not be surprised in the least bit if Teuvo is moved in a trade either mid season or next offseason. I think conclusion may be that his talents better fit elsewhere and he is traded for something of distinct value to the Hawks. Something that really fits.

    Two, the Russian invasion is a bigger work in progress in terms of fitting into the Q disciplined style of play then originally estimated. It will come together, but there is steep learning curve for our non native North American new giys on this team.

    Three, I’m going to beat the Christmas rush and just get this out of the way. And that is the presence of Daley is a problem. He’s not going to fit folks. I hate beyond hate him in the Indianhead. Nice guy and all, but a terrible fit here.

    Four, Hawks are about a week away from having to do something about the Bickell roster spot. He can’t or won’t play anymore. He’s devolved into a $4 M version of Jake Dowell. Simply put, we can’t have him clogging up a roster spot. Just waive him and take the $3.05 M cap bit this season or next. The situation ain’t going to improve upon itself.

  3. No comment on the play of the Hawks. Next game please.

    One comment though on the broadcast; NBCSN has to nix the bird’s eye almost full rink view. That view sucked. Do they really think that improves the viewing experience? What a way to neutralize the HD experience

    What the hell…Sveddy balls @$%*/#!

    Go Hawks!

  4. Did anyone else think Panarin got slashed when he “missed” the open net? If I recall correctly, that would have made the game 2-1 and possibly loosened up the team a bit.

  5. RTF – no more Daley bashing. We got it the first time. Now, 50 repetitions later, it’s just boring and stupid. The season is 4 games old. Take a hit off of DumDum’s bong and go to bed.

  6. Garbutt should Never be on the first line. He is a bottom 6 guy that can skate but has marginal skill. Please get Bickell away from TT.

  7. Observations:

    1. Let’s think positively, Tab. The Hawks should replace Shaw with Svedberg as the net-front presence on our own power play. Could be the new Charo (at least for that).

    2. Teuvo could really do some damage on that third line if he didn’t have that lump at left wing. Bickell should be put in the queue at the Mayo Clinic for a heart transplant.

    3. TVR made some nice plays tonight. If he becomes consistent we could have found the Dman to play with Hjalmerson on the second pairing.

    4. I never thought Hossa was particularly good at breakaways. Perhaps that’s why Q doesn’t put him early in shootouts. I recall Sharp and Saad usually going before him.

    5. Hawks were really lethargic in that first period. They can’t get in the habit this year of playing down to the competition.

  8. Well Toews played up to his usual high standard of greatness. Neuvirth was smokin’ hot and we ran smack into that. Plus that Philly rink has never been good for us ( except that ONE time when it really mattered and even that was weird). Just get out of there and get back to our Harlem Globetrotter act from last Saturday. Patience.

  9. Hawks had some point blank chances and were just snakebit. Also their timing seemed off a bit. Rufus, TT is not going to be traded, he was one of the best players on the ice. I think its obvious that to effectively roll 4 lines they need to add somebody to tonight’s lineup. I think that will happen in due course and things will be fine. GO HAWKS.

  10. RTF – agree, (so far) Teravainen has been most effective playing RW. But, “do not be surprised in the least bit if Teuvo is moved in a trade either mid season or next offseason” — I doubt it, unless it’s absolutely necessary (the cap) – he’s 21, and Hossa (soon to be 37) isn’t going to last forever. “the Q disciplined style of play…there is steep learning curve” — 14, 15, and 72 seem to be fitting-in just fine / may be a little ahead of the (learning) curve. “Daley…a terrible fit here” — we’ll see…it could be a bit early to tell? It probably took Oduya more than four games to “fit”.

    Maybe Q will give Bickell one LAST shot with Toews and Hossa (- try to recapture the 2013 Cup run*magic*) before he’s gone?

    Good summary, Tab. I would add only that I thought the Hawks slipped back into the bad habit of jerking around too much on the PP (at times it looked like they played their way into the low percentage or blocked shot).

  11. The Hawks have Dano in the AHL while Garbutt plays two games on the first line… The solution is almost too obvious.

  12. re: “The Hawks have Dano in the AHL while Garbutt plays two games on the first lineā€¦ The solution is almost too obvious.”

    Yes, and in a world without roster limits or a salary cap, it is obvious.

    Sadly, we don’t live in that world.

  13. Does anybody know how many turnovers Rundblad had at the morning skate ? That should be part of the “event summary”.

    Just kidding obviously. Hopefully a big bounce back effort against Washington.

  14. couple quick responses to wall:

    “the Hawks will still be short 25-35% scoring on 1st line w/o Saad.” Last year, the top line of Saad-Toews-Hossa scored 73 goals (assuming they were together the entire season, which we know they weren’t.) They accomplished that total w/ Patrick Sharp scoring only 16 in 61 games. I submit that a “top” offensive line of Panarin-Anisimov-Kane will quickly begin drawing the top defensive line on opposing teams, and I struggle to see how Panarin doesn’t match Saad’s 23 from last year if Q leaves that line together. Saad had six points in 10 games last year in October. Panarin has two goals and two assists in four games.

    re: Hino – I think he needs a full year in the A. Love his game; think one of Hinostroza/Hartman likely make Shaw expendable sooner than later. But not yet for Hinostroza.

  15. reply to Rufus: “do not be surprised in the least bit if Teuvo is moved in a trade either mid season or next offseason.” I would be shocked. But by all means, write him off after four games, three of which have been spent dragging the boat anchor named Bickell up and down the ice. TT should have at least 3 assists by now if not for Bickell employing the Helen Keller method in front of the net.

    is he a center? I struggle to see him as a 3C. But I’m not going to walk away from him being a LW. He enjoyed some success there in the Cup Final.

  16. Tab – thanks for the calm, rational responses.

    Booman – couldn’t agree more regarding the horrible camera work by NBCSN.

    Continue to be pleasantly surprised by TVR’s play.

    Let’s move on to the Caps – maybe Ovi will oversleep the morning skate again tomorrow.

  17. Its one game, no need to panic, but clearly this team needs to fit some new pieces together. This team has alot of new faces in new places.

    Couple of observations

    Garbutt is not a 2nd line winger

    Bickell is not an NHL player any longer

    Svedberg is a rookie project cut him some slack

  18. Don’t know exactly what the cap situation is currently, but if sending Bickell down allows us to bring up Dano and Morin (3 points in 2 games), might be worth a try.

    14-16-28 (11)

    I know, morin is buried in Rockford ????

  19. And just like that after a stinker Rufus is one of the first to write one huge post. Hhahah.

    I’ll tell you what. The best Hawks players in these 4 games have been the GKers and the excellent van Riemsdyk. TVR is visibly on a different level. The key for him is no injuries.

    Svedberg made that error of the screen and showed his lack of speed a couple of time, but was solid otherwise. Had those outstanding PK plays (Hossa assist, high sticking on him after a great steal). Tikhonov did great and probably gained some Toews line minutes in the near future. Good for him.

  20. Tab, I didn’t indict Teuvo’s hockey skill or upside. Rather, it js apparent he isn’t the best of fits for this team. He’s not really a LW, and honestly speaking we have quite a current gap at LW. Saad and Sharp are gone, and Bickell has devolved into a glaring weakness. Forcing Teuvo into the role out of necessity isn’t going to work. What Teuvo is? Well, he sure looks and feels like a RW on a line with a good center and a ruggedized LW as his playmates. But he isn’t going to displace Kane or Hossa certainly in that type role, now is be. The alternative is for him to play center, which many of you have a problem with and I probably do too. So hence the conclusion that I think it is increasingly likely he is dealt at some point for a better fitting piece.

  21. “Well, he sure looks and feels like a RW on a line with a good center and a ruggedized LW as his playmates.”

    So let him play RW on the 3rd line with Dano at center and 65 as his RW.

  22. The Hawks have a gap at LW. Can Dano solve some of the issue? I guess we will see. But right now by default we are ramming Teuvo into the role the role and be isn’t ideal for it. The alternative is to put a lunch bucket type like Shaw or Garbutt up on the top line. Well, that’s not where Shaw belongs. Nor Garbutt, who in one game in the role rapidly found himself if the Q doghouse. Garbutt is in fact a 4th liner. Tik? Ugh, not on the top 6. He’s not that at all.

  23. Just an off night as Coach Q say’s “no pace.”

    TVR played a very very solid game, close out on a a few late break where her got back, was physical and played very well on offense and the point on offense.

    Tikhonov is one of my favorites and brings every night, speed and stick really is just “on the puck” always. Glad to see he’s getting minutes.

    The Artist continues to look very comfortable and made a few key back checks and defensive plays. The Artist is my man!

    VICK (SVEDBERG ) actually looked good tonight too, still slow and still so slow getting back which will “kill us” if was like a junk yard dog in the defensive zone and never crossed the blue line he’d be great. His played well, that pass to HOSSA was to TOEWS but still heads up play.

    This kid Michael Neuvirth for PHILLY is very very good, he played solid, Hawks could not get the PUCK UP at all, everything low which blows, can’t ever beat them like that, but Neuvirth was impressive. Calm and no SLOP!

    hawks are fine . . .


  24. The Russians to be blunt are doing GREAT . . . the so called system is not complicated (its called back checking ) and they can skate and have the speed and skill BIG TIME. The Russians are not a work in progress they are READY and both if given minutes will excel . . . all upside!

    TEVO is fine, he needs to lead the 2nd line power play and is getting some good shots on net, TEVO takes up a lot of space on the ice, TEAMS gotta collapse on him so DONT LOOK AT TEVO as a big gaol scorer or wing or center, he;ll score be BUT HOCKEY IS ABOUT CREATE SPACE and TEVO does that and he can PASS like a Muther!

  25. Doc & Eddy call a great game but I couldn’t see the puck on a 50″ TV during power plays.

  26. The second line is the only line that consistently played well last night. Our fourth line has been pretty ineffective this season. 11 has been a ghost.

  27. Morin one of my favorites has a bad habit that Q hates . . . back checking and getting back hard on defense. Morin is sooo strong offensively, fast to the puck, great wrist shot and tuff in the corners, he is very fast, has length, but his TRANSITION from offense to defense which is all NHL is built on, is weak and inconsistent. Reason is some players skate so hard on “offense” like The Artist AP does he don’t FLAOT like Kane he Skates! Not does Morin so he is actually exhausted that is why HOSSA is a beast he floats, skates and anticipates the puck like mad man! Saad was also one who skated hard!

  28. Markus and the 4th line plays so well in the offensive zone they just BURN UP ICE TIME for the other team. BUT I have seen as many have a “trend” when they play in our end for some reason they might be one of the worst 4th lines, not sure why. Maybe more tentative in the defensive zone, but when a team has posession for more than 2 minutes oddly it’s the 4th line on the ice, BUT In the offense they are solid, but odd to me but to must be the caution and tentative defense vs. all out Puck Rat on offense? 11 Dezi has alway been just okay . . . I’d put GARBUTT on the fourth line an just beat teams up! Lot’s of 11 Dezi’s in the NHL

  29. Tab- the issue/drop off will be felt… mostly 81/19 will see a big drop in points (playing with non-1st line LW guys)… not to mention Saad’s 23 minus the 7-10 goals a 28 or 14 will provide… so roughly – that is a loss of 12 goals from 20 (gone ) + 5 goals or more from each of 81/19…. so I have it as AT LEAST 22 goals less….

    72 will equal Sharp + Versteeg (goals ) plus maybe 7/8… (and that would be a great year)… which would mean 72 scores 25-30 goals… doable – Yes…

    BUT- still puts TOP 2 lines about 12-16 goals behind… add to that same (almost no offense from 4th line) and actually LESS production from 3rd line (TT with nobody) -no 23,10,Vermette, (so I see MORE drop off from 3rd line this year versus last year’s combos)

    So there is MY need for the LW (1st or 3rd line guy– pronto)

    Can it be filled from within??? Dano (concussed or NOT LW???– better RW???)
    Hino- to Center 3rd- and TT to 3rd RW??? Morin??? (I always said Morin would be OK top lines– but not bottom 6… said same about Hayes)

    I don’t know…. But AS IS– this team will not be able to put up points versus better teams!!!

    Common denominator– “Handcuffs” 29!!! has to be removed (prefer his $4M– but highly unlikely!!!)

  30. Panarin is still a PPG player and Kane is on pace for 123. Last years Hawks team went through droughts as well.

    Over an 82 game season they are fine at forward.

    1/3 or the roster turned over. There are bound to be some stinkers. Really nothing to see here. Plus apparently they can’t win in Philly unless its the Cup. I’d expect tonight to be better.

  31. “the 5 goals or more from 81/19” … just to clarify- means – 19/81 will each score at least 5 goals LESS than last year … with current rotation of Non- 1st line LW guys on roster….

    Only 72 can keep them on par with last year’s production… (and then you have a gaping hole on 2nd LW!!!

    This Dano (not here or able to Play LW as well as RW- and Bickell) 1st LW spot needs to be Resolved…

  32. AJ- I am sold on 72…

    BUT- the “eye test” is telling me:
    1st line is not even close to Dominating Possession (even when they don’t score- they used to dominate)
    Hoss/19 are not getting quality looks

    Game 3- 28 looked ok
    game 4- 28 was lost there

  33. I still say that Morin would be a good option to try on LW with Toews and Hossa. He will help on the offensive side of things and if it doesn’t work out defensively, he’s back in Rockford. Worth a try. Send down Bickell… Bring up Morin. Give him 3-5 games.

  34. Wall is right on the money. Right now this team has a major problem at LW. And dilemma of trying to put some square pegs into round holes in terms of addressing the position and filling out the lines. I’ll say it again. The Bickell thing most certainly is headed to him being released and rhe Hawks grabbing $995 Th worth of cap relief on his tragic $4 M per contract.

  35. Wayne I made the comparison to Bickell and Morin. Similar games. Morin is about the age Bickell was when he finally played a full NHL season. And Bickell hasnt had the injury/medical issues Morin had.

    To call up two guys from Rockford you probably have to send 2 down. Which can also be done. Baun and Bickell. Bickell has a few more games before he needs waivers again. Those few games may be enough for Dano to get a call up. I’d actually like to see what Morin can do next to 19 and 81.

  36. Also FWIW, scouting the game last night were

    “Jets (three including GM Kevin Cheveldayoff), Flames (2), Predators (2), Avalanche, Blues, Lightning, Rangers, Maple Leafs, Canadiens, Kings, Blackhawks, Panthers, Oilers, Red Wings and Senators”

  37. A few comments for Brokerwayne…

    “If not Morin” – it won’t be Morin.

    “you have… Paille” – the IceHogs have Paille. He’s playing on an AHL contract. He has not signed with the Blackhawks.

    “it’s not like we’re losing anything sans Bickell” – you’re, at best, wasting $3.05M in NHL cap space by sending him down and wasting a roster spot in Rockford on him.

  38. cracks me up that folks are saying Teravainen can’t play LW so he should be traded… to clear a LW spot for Dano… who is predominantly a RW….

    And please stop bringing up Jeremy Morin. The kid has been an absolute trooper in Rockford but it’s painfully clear at this point that he isn’t making the NHL roster in Chicago. Is he a warm body? Sure. Could he bring more to the table than Bickell? Probably. What are the odds he ever dressed for the Blackhawks again? About as slim as Kruger when he arrived from Sweden in 2011…

  39. It’s pretty simple, actually. Bad passing = loss. Lots of bad passes and bobbled receptions last night. It happens a few times a season. Moving on …

  40. Without a doubt that 1st line is feeling the loss of Saad. That trade still sucks, add in the fact the Hawks don’t have a powerforward on the roster except Bickell(Ha ha), and lost one the year before that in Hayes. That type of player is lacking, Baun is not the answer and there isnt they type of player who can legit play a top 6 role. Garbutt and Desi are both fine players neither should sniff the top 6.

    I assumed Garbutt would after Kitch was raving about him in one of the preseason games with Pat & Eddie.

  41. It’s very clear to me that this team is still trying to find itself and get everyone on the same page, that’s all. Some bad passes, bad reads, poor D coverage and bad line changes will go away as the season moves along.

    Q is trying to see how Daley and Svedberg will fit into the D mix and, as usual, he is trying to find the best offensive line combinations by playing guys all over the place, which is NOT a bad thing, it’s just frustrating for the fans, at times.

    At least we have options with this team and Q is trying to find the best players and the best line combinations to win some games and move forward. We need to give this team and coaching staff some time to figure it all out.

    Crow looks really sharp and our offensive chances are high quality. We need to work on our D coverage in our zone a little. The first 10-12 games are all about finding out who can get the job done, anyway.

  42. Id rather waste a roster spot and 3.05 million in cap space with Bickell in Rockford than waste 4 million and an NHL roster spot with him in Chicago. He hurts the team less there, Not that he’s doing anything on the ice that’s detrimental to the team success here. But he isnt doing anything to help.

  43. ^They can buy out his contract but only during a certain window of the year. That time is early in summer and has passed. Further, there are cap penalty ramifications to buying a player out which must be considered. Portions of his salary would count against the cap in future years. It’s not as easy as cutting one big check and saying adios.

  44. ~If there were simple solutions, they would’ve been done already is the best way to explain it.

    They can’t put him on LTIR because he’s at least healthy enough to play. That would be violating NHLPA rules and would cause a grievance, so it won’t happen for now at least.

    There’s no magic wand with this situation. Right now it’s either play him and hope he turns it around, or send him down to Rockford before his 10 games of waiver period is up. If they do that they have $3M+ in cap space tied up although they do clear $950K.

  45. Hof, I don’t think the games played waiver period makes a bit of difference. Hawks arent going to get anything back thats of a lot of value. An expiring contract for a dman of equal value is the only way something happens. Even then said player would have been cast aside for similar reasons Bickell is.

    So after game 10 or 30 days he has to go through waivers again. If he picked up his play maybe someone makes that claim. Would anyone here be hurt if they literally gave Bickell away?

  46. Ernie……….we have to wait this out. As the season goes along, players will get hurt and some other team will / may need the services of a Bryan Bickell. It’s obvious that no team wants his $4mil salary at this time, but the Hawks are waiting for an injury to occur and a desperate team to call looking for a big bodied winger.

    Like I said before, there is no shame in a player who hits a wall and just can’t get it done any longer. It’s not Bryan Bickell’s fault that SB signed him to a large contract and then he just lost his ability to play the game the way he did 3 years ago. Someone will need him before this is all over.

  47. Ernie,

    The crux of the issue may well be this waiver period of up to 10 games is the Blackhawks saying to Bickell in effect, this is your last opportunity.

    I personally don’t think it makes a difference one way or the other, 6 games, 10 games, 12 games, 20 games, I think Bick’s best days are behind him. But I do think the Blackhawks have shown they’re loyal to players who helped them win the Stanley Cup (today’s contract for Kyle Cumiskey being an example) and as such, right or wrong, they are giving Bickell this extended leash to see if he can show anything … or some situation around the league might miraculously change. It buys them a little time.

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