Blackhawks Dropped In Detroit

It was an ugly early evening affair for the Blackhawks on Sunday in Detroit.

Skating a roster of mostly guys who will be headed to Rockford soon (Monday?), the Hawks were chasing the entire night. Ivan Nalimov, who recently joined the team, got the call for the first half of the game and allowed three goals in the opening 10:48 of the game.

Luke Glendening opened the scoring at 59 seconds and Martin Frk added a second goal 58 seconds later. Danny DeKeyser added a third before 11 minutes had come off the clock, and the Hawks never recovered.

Alexandre Fortin scored a pretty goal to cut the lead to 3-1 which is where the first period would end. The Hawks were out-shot 10-4 in the first period.

The second period was more of the same. Detroit out-shot Chicago 13-4 in the second and outscored them 2-1 in the period. Dennis Rasmussen cut the lead to 3-2 but goals from Dylan Larkin and Anthony Mantha extended the lead to 5-2 at the end of 40.

Brandon Mashinter scored 2:20 into the third but that was the end of the Chicago offense. As Lars Johansson, the Hawks’ second goaltender of the night, headed to the bench Andreas Athanasiou scored into an empty net to close the scoring at 17:27 into the third. The goal does count against Johansson; he hadn’t reached the bench yet.

Johansson matched Nalimov’s numbers for the night, allowing three goals against 16 shots.

On the blue line, a group of prospects left a lot ot be desired. Viktor Svedberg again looked lost at times and whiffed on a clearing attempt that led to Mantha’s second period power play goal.

Fortin had a good showing for Coach Joel Quenneville. He has played in all four of the Hawks’ preseason games to date and has been as impressive as he was at the summer prospect camp and again at Traverse City. GM Stan Bowman may have found a gem in the undrafted 19-year-old forward. He’ll head back to Rouyn-Noranda in the QMJHL at some point, but he’ll certainly be someone to keep track of this season.

The only players on the ice on Sunday night who should be headed to Chicago to open the season are Trevor van Riemsdyk and Richard Panik.

18 thoughts on “Blackhawks Dropped In Detroit

  1. I enjoyed reading your article.

    However besides Trevor van Riemsdyk and Richard Panik, I think we will see Dennis Rasmussen and Dennis Rasmussen going to Chicago. Rasmussen will be the regular 4th line center!

  2. Oops I meant Dennis Rasmussen and Brandon Mashinter will be going to Chicago too. Dennis Rassmussen will be regular fourth line center and Mashinter will be parttime 4th line left wing.

  3. I don’t disagree with thinking Rasmussen and Mashinter are on the roster. But I’d rather see Desjardins at 4c. He was 2nd best at the dot last year if you disregard Fleischman. Desjardins was 49%if memory serves correct. If you want to go speed and skill and have Desi as your 13th forward, I would not be against that. If Hinostroza can win enough draws I wouldn’t mind seeing Hinostroza, Hartman and Panik on the 4th line. Rasmussen just doesn’t do quite enough for me to be satisfied. But I don’t know if the other candidates do either.

    Last year’s faceoff numbers I posted from the Lundberg signing article Tab had.

    Panik took 2 draws and won one.

    Fleischmann took 17 and won 70%.

    Toews -58.6% total FO’s-1573
    Desjardins 49.4%-87
    Kruger 49.2%-474
    Rasmussen 46.9% 307
    Shaw 46.5% 314
    Kero 44.7% 123
    Anisimov 44.2% 1148
    Danault 44.2% 369
    Hinostroza 40.6% 32
    Teravainen 40.5% 309
    Kane 21.6% 51

  4. No one’s crying on here mourning the loss of Teuvo? I don’t think you’ll ever need to mourn his departure.

    I missed the game tonight; maybe fortunately so. Doesn’t sound like there were many positives outside of Fortin. They’ll play more regs for the home fans on Tuesday. Sure hoping some of these young guys are making some positive strides…

  5. 43 not looking good. I had never seen Pokka play before tonight, and can say the same after seeing the game. Managing the old timers on D is going to be “interesting” the watch this year, the Campbell signing would indicate management is thinking all in again, interested to see what happens depth and minutes wise there.

  6. Nathan Noel had two goals for the Sea Dogs in QMJHL play Saturday in a 5-0 win over the Wildcats.

  7. Booman- Agreed, I know I wont mourn TT. I think he is a talented kid, who is the type of player who needs a finisher around him. he cant drive a line (See his time here on the 3rd line) and he cant play without 2 other players who can “do the dirty work for him” (see his time on the top line when he was asked to play an equal part in a forecheck and couldnt).

    I think he has value to the right team and will be a solid secondary offensive weapon and i wish we got more than “Bickell relief” for him, but oh well. what’s done is done and we will move on.

  8. Booman you mentioning Teuvo should probably be a separate post, but good you brought it up. I was certainly in the hopeful camp with Teravainen when he came up a few years ago. His skill set was high, yet the more games he played his unwillingness to deal with the physical side of the NHL game became apparent. He just wasn’t adapting. I give RTF credit for pointing this out long ago. I held out hope that Teuvo would adapt, but he was not able to do so. Alas, some learn and adapt, while others don’t. SB moved him out quick in this past off season simply to get what they could for him, which was a shot at another prospect. I hope he prospers with the Canes.

    I like what I have seen thus far from Motte, and Forsling. Forsling reminds me a little of Hammer when he first played with the Hawks.

    Lets Go Hawks!

  9. Hate to pile on a kid coming from across the pond and thrown into a game but Ivan Nalimov yikes. I’ve seen him several times now between last night and a few prospect camps and came away with the same impression. Wonder if the big teenager Wooter Peters is going to see any actions. He is a kid to keep an eye on in net, not Nailimov.

    Fortin with a nice move on Mrazek! Let’s see more of him!

  10. I’ll be very curious to see how Teuvo plays in Carolina, which less talent and less pressure on a younger team. There is no reason he cant be a 60 point scorer but not sure if he is able to put it all together to do that.

  11. Tim G,
    You hit is right on the head. Teuvo is only as good as the talent playing with him makes him. Great players make those around them better. Not the case with Teuvo. Wish him luck, but glad he is gone.

    Agree with the Hammer comparison for Forsling. I think the Hawks have to find a way for him to be on the roster this season. I have only seen him play once, but he clearly plays with confidence and exhibits very impressive skating and puck handling skills. That’s the type of talent you nuture at the NHL level. This is becoming a younger league and he has the skill set to be here now.

  12. re: Rasmussen & Mashinter on the roster – imo the four centers on the opening night roster will be Toews, Anisimov, Kruger & Hinostroza. Rasmussen is in a battle w/ Mashinter & Tootoo for the 13th forward spot, not a starting lineup role. Motte, Schmaltz, Hinostroza & Hartman could emerge with lineup roles on opening night. I also continue to wonder how long Desjardins has in Chicago; his cap hit may be his best attribute for this team right now.

  13. I love Kruger because of what he brings to the PK and his consistent defensive effort. I do not see him as a 3rd line center. He has zero offensive capabilities. Hino would be a better fit for 3rd line as I believe he is more offensively skilled. It would not surprise me to see Tootoo on the ice opening night. I hope not.

  14. Wouldn’t mind seeing bottom 6 lines of krueger and hossa on one with panik and hinostroza on the other with rasmussen and desijardins on either line as center or winger if schmaltz and motte can both fill the spots on top 2 lines. Then you can use tootoo. Hartman or mashinter as your role players.

  15. Defense looks set as ernie pointed out forsling probably going to stick for a few games then head for europe while waiver exempt gustafsson and pokka are available for callups.

  16. I actually took a lot of positives from the game even though we lost going away. First, all the Wings goals were stoppable, scored by NHL players and given by goalies that will not be in our net this year and while AHL defensemen and forwards were on the ice.
    Also, our goals were scored on their starting goalie on nice plays by guys who are just prospects for us and all of them were scored with NHL defensemen on the ice for Detroit.
    So I was pretty encouraged really.
    P.S. Agreed with the poster on Nalimov…wow. If we have injuries to 4 goalies, we’ll go get someone else before we let Nalimov in our net for a game that matters. He is mechanically just awful. He gets falling forward as bad as Thibault used to but he does not seem to have the skill T-Bone had to make up for some of it.
    Too bad the empty netter on Johansen counted against him because he had not gotten off the ice…and bummer he could not corral that rebound that Svedberg took 3 whiffs on. Could have been an OK game for him.

  17. From my seat theres only 3 or 4 that have a chance. I didn’t realize our up and comers were that bad overall. Pokka needs a lot more work with passing and moving the puck. McNeil just plain sucks and Mashinter is what he is. Not impressed

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