Blackhawks Making Lineup Changes?

After a 5-2 loss on opening night, and with Niklas Hjalmarsson coming back from his suspension, the Hawks “tried” a few new look lines during Thursday’s practice.

Based on practice, it appears the split of Artemi Panarin and Patrick Kane could begin on Friday night. Tyler Motte skated with Artemi Panarin and Artem Anisimov, while Panarin skated with Richard Panik and Jonathan Toews.

Marian Hossa didn’t practice on Thursday; Dennis Rasmussen skated on the third line with Marcus Kruger and Ryan Hartman. The fourth line was the only one to stay intact from Wednesday night.

On the blue line, Hjalmarsson was with Duncan Keith at practice. Michal Kempny skated with Brent Seabrook and Gustav Forsling was with Brian Campbell.

54 thoughts on “Blackhawks Making Lineup Changes?

  1. Was Forsling or Campbell playing the right side? Has Campbell done that much in his career? I sure hope they aren’t putting a young guy in that uncomfortable position. I’m all for flexibility, but feel we have played too many guys out of their comfort positions over the last several years.

  2. Im not sure these changes are going to do much help. I get that Q is looking for balance. However putting these kids in a line blender probably isnt help much either. Skating tootoo 5 mins doesnt do anything. Its not like there is some stud in the minors either. Hammer returning will help. This team is 2 wingers short right now. Gota hope a few of these kids figure it out.

  3. As usual Booman is clueless. Has Campbell done much in his career. What a joke! He was the first big free agent to come to the Hawks and started the turn around. Get a clue buddy.

  4. Booman did you watch the game? Campbell played right side, Forsling left.

    If you didn’t watch it, why comment?

  5. Stanistheman- Perhaps you should learn to read what was actually written.

    Booman specifically asked if Campbell played the right side on defense much. To answer your question booman, I do believe he played right side in the past. The last few years he had been paired with Ekblad so Campbell was on the left. But prior to that I believe the had him on his off side

  6. If that’s the case Ernie maybe he should write more clearly. The thread is about last night’s game, it is quite fair to think he was referring to the game last night.

  7. “Booman specifically asked if Campbell played the right side on defense much.”

    No he didn’t. He asked “was Forsling or Campbell playing the right side”.

    Playing in practice, or playing in the game? The thread is about lineup changes from the game. The comment was unclear, but whatever, no matter.

  8. The biggest challenge facing the 2016-17 Hawks is where is the offense going to come from. That is the quandary. The Quenneville blender will be on frappe mode for awhile, out of necessity.

    I will say this again too. Schmaltz is not ready for the NHL. If it were me, I’d send him down to the NHL and move Hinostraza to Center for now.

  9. @RTF

    Ok you want Schmaltz down, who gets into the lineup Rasmussen? Id rather have Schmaltz work it out on the NHL level personally but this team needs some impact players and Schmaltz might be one of those guys. Its not like the 4th line is going to get alot of mins anyways. Likely Moose only got in b/c Hossa was off.

    Speaking of Hossa cant recall the last time he got out muscled to a puck but one of the Blues players put him on his wallet going for a loose puck.

  10. Forsling on his natural left side with Campbell playing RD which he has done in the past. That’s the way it was in the game last night and at practice today. It looks like TvR is the odd man out and based on his play last night, deservedly so. Having Hammer back on the PK will help immensely as there are few better or more willing to block shots.

    Not that there are any good options being ignored, but Panik is not a top-6 player. He has good speed and is a willing player but he simply isn’t good enough with the puck on his stick to warrant being in the top-6. The sad news is that even then he may be the Hawks best option for that role right now. But, what’s there to lose be trying someone else who may prove to be better. From the practice lines today it looks like that player is Motte and I hope so. Give him a shot at either 1LW or 2LW and see what happens. Play Panik where his speed can be an asset but his hands aren’t so much a detriment.

  11. I thought Schmaltz wasn’t ready for the NHL before the game last night and he didn’t show anything that changes my mind. He (and the team) is better served by playing in Rockford to learn how to play the type of crowded and physical hockey played in the NHL. His skill level projects out to a middle-6 player but he isn’t one now and using him on the 4th line isn’t helping him or the team.

    I’m not a big Rasmussen fan because I think his lack of speed/quickness limits his effectiveness. But, he is a more solid and reliable player than Schmaltz is right now and would privide better play at 4C than Schmaltz is capable of right now.

  12. Wow 1 game & he can’t make practice the next day, am I the only one concerned about #81 ? Should I be concerned about #81 ? He looked so much better in the playoffs on the 3rd. line than he did on the 1st. line, am I right ? Give #14 a chance & get #81 the hell out of there, am I right ? #19 is going to have another sub-par year with #81 on his wing, am I right ? As Merle Haggard asked ( for #81 ) ” ARE THE GOOD TIMES TEALLY OVER FOR GOOD ” ???????

  13. Ras is fine as 4C. When Desi comes back 11/70 and maybe Hino or Tootoo should be okay as 4th line. Desi is pretty good in the dot, so if they could lean on him to take the defensive zone draws as needed.

  14. I would rather see motte toews hossa. If you look at that first goal, it was toews and hossa working their handling magic and panik aggressively getting in front of the net…in the few games we’ve seen, motte has the ability to be a net front presence.

    I know teams know what to expect with Kane and Panarin, but they still manage to get shots on net and panarin almost sank a one-timer. Just improve the other lines.

    Overall, I thought Hossa looked more energetic than usual, or at least so far as I can remember.

    Lastly, it was game one. Not the best game to go through the motions, but give this group a few games to click and I think we will be happy with the results (minus tootoo)

  15. The thread is about possible lineup changes coming based on today’s practice. Last nights game was 2 threads ago.

  16. Booman said in reference to him playing on the right side…”Has Campbell done that (played on the right) much in his career”

    Yall jump on a guy for misreading what he said. Both questions were fair. Based on last nights game yes you could assume Campbell would remain on right and Forsling left. Neither of you chose to answer his question. You both however decided to chide your fellow brethren rather than trying to inform him. I’d rather elevate the hockey iq around here rather than look like an ass. Even if I am still an ass.

  17. Ganderhawk, I’ve found us Hawk fans to be some of the most volatile there is. It’s either the sky is falling trade every asset for picks…but not picks because Q won’t play them…or its get the parade ready this team may never lose again.

  18. Good point Southside.The upside potential for Schmaltz is far superior than Moose. This team is lacking skilled guys that can put the puck in the net. The last thing we need now is another marginally skilled guy coming up and a guy with skill going down. Let’s give Schmaltz a good long look and see what happens. We know from past player results a 4rth line with Desi, Tootoo and Moose will contribute nothing offensively. At least with Hino and Schmaltz on that line potential is there for offense.

  19. Last night Schmaltz struggled with the speed of the NHL game and actually was huffing and puffing way way too much for a youngster and only on the ice for limited shifts. It can’t possibly be a conditioning problem. I don’t know. But I see a kid who is best served playing in Rockford.

    You can already see why Bowman was interested in the disappointing and one dimensional no defense Yakupov. He’s worried about offense. And he should be.

  20. How about those (the minority, mind you) who render sophomoric cheap shots @ others take a deep breath and R E L A X please. Thanks.

    1961, objective, concise and accurate points; others as well. Let s delve into the facts briefly:

    -rookie quartet ice time b w 7 1/2 & 8 1/2 minutes (exluding Motte who was over 12 mins b c of his PK time w Kruger — I ll get to him momentarily);

    – Anisimov Panarin & Kane 23 mins apprxly each;

    -Q explained post-game the reason for the above was they were “chasing the game” in the 3rd per;

    -when rolling 4 lines– when times are good — Q has played the bottom six forwards at least 10-11 mins each even when “chasing the game” on voluminous occasions, even in the ’10 ’13 & ’15 Cup playoffs;

    -Kruger is checking in @ $3.1M per, zero goals in half a season last yr, and last night the PK was atrocious, and he was no great shakes on faceoffs either;

    -when Bolland was making similar $ and similar role w Hawks, when healthy he contributed offensively and otherwise commesurate w his salary;

    -Kruger s well established lack of offensive production is a detriment to the team based upon his salary; he had better be the penalty killer of the year to somewhat justify his cap hit;

    -has anyone considered as far as the PK goes how vital Frolik was to Kruger’s success;

    -lastly, the previous posts re Tootoo need not be repeated. The rookie quartet — any of them –cannot be on the same line as him.

    No opinions re the D and Crawford is a non concern.

    And I thank you.

  21. I’d like to see Motte given a try with Toews.
    I’m not sure Panik is going to cut it on the 1st line- I think he’s more suitable for the 3rd or 4th.

  22. I like the changes. Makes sense that Panik will be on Right now as a LH shot.

    Question I have for anyone that saw prac, was Kane RW or LW? Just curious. Like to see what this second line combo can do. Pretty versatile all 3 guys are comfortable all over the ice.

    I like Hartman, Krugs and Hossa on third. That should be a very solid line.

    Only change I would make is Rasmussen on 4th line with Hino and Schmaltz. Ras can help win draws but Schamltz can still play in the middle of the ice.

  23. JT Motte on top line with Panarin and Toews would make sense too. If Q does that I think he Panik would be good with Krugs and Hossa. Maybe Hartman at LW with Anisimov and Kane.

  24. Why is it that Q pulls the goalie with over two and a half min left and no one questions him. It was a one goal game with more than enough time left to tie the game 5 on 5. And RTF last year you railed on Teuvo this year Schmaltz is the antichrist, why not give the kid a chance it was the first game.

  25. I’m actually on Rufus’ side. Schmaltz played what 8 minutes? He could be a future 2 C. But he needs to work on a few things. And it’s tough to work on those things skating 8 minutes a night and taking what 5 draws? Skate him 20 min a night taking as many faceoffs as possible in Rockford.

  26. As RTF and Ernie said, Schmaltz needs to be in Rockford playing significant minutes. What we saw last night was no different than the pre-season. He is a talented young man but he needs to learn how to play the professional game. Any team skating 6 rookies is going to have struggles – hopefully we can win some low scoring games as the kids learn.

  27. Line changes, well I thought last nights game was better than last years opener.
    I also agree with almost all your observations.
    Last nights first line I thought was two wings and no center. 14 played a decent LW but is he not a RW?
    I would move up 72 to L1 not 88 to R1 for three reasons.
    1. Could cause the opposition to change/split their D.
    2. Give 19 the L1 you have been looking for the past year.
    3. Answer the questions is 72 a $6 M and has 19 hit the wall two years ago?
    I thought 81 was stuck trying to correct/stop mistakes of others and did not have anyone to make a play with pass to/ or receive from.
    If you what to drop 81 down then you could move 14 over to his natural RW and 19 would not lose much of 81’s mussel.

    Second line looked like a center and no wings. How many times did the screen show 15 breaking in with just a Blue on him and the goalie? I was waiting to see a wing breaking in behind him but NO! Was 15 taking it in deep for a line change or were the wings pinned to the boards? By moving 72 up to L1 you can move Motte up to L2 or 14 down. This could give 15 someone to pass to, as 72 should take his D man up with him. By moving Motte up could he become this year’s version of 72?
    I do not think 19 needs a rookies LW.

    Your 3 & 4 line ideas sound good.

    I though 42 on D was great, the Blues came right at him strong from the start and he handled it fine.
    Thanks for clearing it up; I thought it was several players winded because of being caught too long on the ice. If 8 is huffing & puff now what is he going to be doing in April, on life support? How did he get such a low number and Campell 51? I thought D men get single digest if available. I know Hull had 7 then 9, but back then 1-31 were available and not retired.

  28. Hi all ,just reading and seeing that rolling our fellow bloggers under the bus continues , like bullies in the playground ,,,,,funny how the parade to the penalty box in game 1 was our mature team leading type guys ,.,not the rookies ,,..,great comment in the fact Q pulled Crow to early ,.,we were 1 goal behind . There is no freeking way the top line will be broken up ,.,.don,t care what they did in practice,., And who ever keeps saying this team has a hard time scoring goals is just wrong . We have a really good looking D core , Crow is the man , 1 game in , Keep the lines the same and stay out of the box , See what happens .

  29. Thanks Ernie and 1961 for the support. Ernie, we can always depend on you for factual info. I ignore the comments by imbeciles on here in favor of those that have positive contributions.

    Lets start with fundamentals. A, B, C, D, E, F, G… I hope I did not confuse you by starting with capital letters. Ok sorry… a, b, c, d, e, f, g… I stopped at g because I did not wish to overwhelm you. Q will have easier time getting these rookies playing hockey than it will be for us to teach you how to read. We’re here for you man. Practice, practice, practice. I’ll find out what time Sesame Street is on and let you know.

  30. Blah, blah, blah!!! Fool! XYZ’ER…is that your goal in life to learn the alphabet all the way to XYZ. From what I observed you won’t get there. It is clear you have deep frustrations in life and have to lash out at others. There are medications for that. So Odpieprz si?.

  31. Wow… After the first game we have this much animosity lol. Gonna be a long season! Ya’ll need to chill TF out!

  32. With no. 4 back should have a solid blueline crawford looked to be mid season form when the puck starts going in the top 3 lines will look pretty solid maybe a little tweaking needed but be top notch. 4th line needs to develop but looks like were in pretty good shape to me. If 8 and 48 can find some chemistry and get their game going i m sure they ll get the linemate that can click with them. Too early to give up on them yet when the season just getting started.

  33. I work 12 hour days mother fucker. I’ve busted my ass for everything I have and for you to imply otherwise is damn right offensive. I built a house by myself…after my regular blue collar job. I’m posting now while I’m taking a 15 min lunch.

    Don’t call me lazy or think shit was given to me.

    Don’t question my fandom.

    Don’t question my hunting ethics.

    Any of those 3 things will make me one pissed off SOB. We’re supposedly all Hawks fans so why do we need to be so hateful

  34. Ernie it’s been this way for the last several years-someone (or two) love to stir the pot, often thru vulgarities and putdowns and hope for some kind of reaction-it’s twisted but it must work for them.

    Let’s enjoy the season

  35. I must make a retraction on my idea of moving 72 up to L1. 19’s second language is not Russian. Therefore 72 needs 15.
    I do not like moving 88 up with 19 for many reasons. Yes at the beginning they were together, but back then you had men like 10 and they are all gone. If you will remember the Hawks tried paring 21 with 9 together (the bronze men outside this era’s version of 19 & 88) and that did not work. So if 14 is not the answer then 48 better really lace them up. It is a tough job and I will be pulling for him.

  36. Ernie, Don’t take any shit from them Canucks. To them, you’re just another wetback, crossing the border to play their game.

  37. Morrison I hope you are kidding. Why are you assuming it’s a Canadian making these comments. I’m Canadian and love the Hawks and appreciate Ernie’s hard work and thoughts on here and many others.

  38. Ernie,
    I hope you ignore their b.s. Your contributions are very valuable here and they’re just trying to get under our skin. I note Wall has been silent since the goof attacked him the other day. We can’t afford guys like you and Wall being harassed away from contributing here. The board would not be the same without those contributions. The gutless punks will probably change their screen names because we’re on to their crap. Mental midgets…
    Go Hawks!!!

  39. Appreciate the sentiments guys. I ain’t going anywhere as long as Tab keeps putting out this tremendous forum for our opinions. It’s just sad we have to resort to personal attacks. I’m not immune to giving them out, but that doesn’t make it right. We’ve lost a lot of valuable and positive commenters here over antics like that. I called a guy out and get absolutely berated for some of the dumbest reasoning imaginable. Somebody needs a hug.

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