Blackhawks Prospect Updates

It’s been almost a full month since we checked in with the Blackhawks’ top prospects, so let’s take a look around the system at how the next generation of Chicago stars (that aren’t in Rockford) have been performing.

Hartman score

As we noted earlier in December, Teuvo Teräväinen will represent Finland in the World Junior Championships, while Ryan Hartman, Vince Hinostroza and Tyler Motte have been invited to the USA camp.

Teuvo Teräväinen, F
Jokerit Helsinki – SM-liiga
29 games, 3 goal, 14 assists, 17 points, 8 PIM

Ryan Hartman, F
Plymouth – OHL
25 games, 13 goals, 13 assists, 26 points, 44 PIM

Kevin Hayes, F
Boston College – NCAA (Hockey East)
16 games, 10 goals, 14 assists, 24 points, 6 PIM

Vince Hinostroza, F
Notre Dame – NCAA (Hockey East)
12 games, 3 goals, 11 assists, 14 points, 2 PIM

Tyler Motte, F
U. of Michigan – NCAA (B1G)
14 games, 5 goals, 3 assists, 8 points, 16 PIM

Chris Calnan, F
Boston College – NCAA (Hockey East)
13 games, 1 goal, 5 assists, 6 points, 15 PIM

John Hayden, F
Yale – NCAA (ECAC)
12 games, 0 goals, 3 assists, 3 points, 6 PIM

Luke Johnson, F
North Dakota – NCAA (NCHC)
18 games, 4 goal, 7 assists, 11 points, 12 PIM

Anthony Louis, F
Miami (OH) – NCAA (NCHC)
16 games, 4 goals, 4 assists, 8 points, 6 PIM

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Stephen Johns, D
Notre Dame – NCAA (Hockey East)
18 games, 4 goals, 6 assists, 10 points, 28 PIM

Dillon Fournier, D
Ryoun-Noranda – QMJHL
32 games, 10 goals, 17 assists, 27 points, 50 PIM

Carl Dahlstrom, D
Linkoping – SuperElite
16 games, 1 goal, 9 assists, 10 points, 4 PIM

Travis Brown, D
Moose Jaw – WHL
36 games, 9 goals, 25 assists, 34 points, 39 PIM

Michael Paliotta, D
U. of Vermont – NCAA (Hockey East)
14 games, 2 goals, 6 assist, 8 points, 27 PIM

Justin Holl, D
U. of Minnesota – NCAA (B1G)
14 games, 0 goals, 5 assists, 5 points, 8 PIM

Sam Jardine, D
Ohio State – NCAA (B1G)
13 games, 0 goals, 3 assists, 3 points, 12 PIM

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21 Responses to Blackhawks Prospect Updates

  1. Sr. Brad says:

    Thanks Tab…there’s a lot of talk about TT, but the Hawks 2 best prospects (not in Rockford) this season have been former #1 pick Kevin Hayes and Stephen Johns…both have been dominant players all season long and both will be in Rockford later this season…

  2. wall says:

    Brad- I hope you are right… they have been great… but I think they both control their own destiny (Unsigned)… and KHayes??? will he get get a bad vibe from his bro- regarding the Hawks? I don’t think he will- Hawks actually did JHayes a favor by trading him- cuz he was never gonna crack the NHL w/ Hawks… BUT- perhaps KHayes thinks/wants to play in NHL sooner than later… w/ Hawks he is 30/70 to play NHL next year… w say Florida… He is probably 80/20 to play NHL next year.
    End of Day- Kevin is a much better skater/fit for Hawks.

    Johns/Hawks D??? similar problems… Hawks look like they will have 2 openings in next two years- BUT- 3 Players fighting for it… (and actually I would love to see Hawks try to keep 27- great skater)… Johns, Clendening (over-rated IMO), and Dahlbeck (under-rated IMO)… so it will be interesting- or should SB look to move #7 in 1-2 years to open up room for Johns and save some $$$, ????

    Lastly, TT has been underwhelming Points wise in Liiga??? Is he ready? I will be watching him closely in WJC’s to see if playing with Elite types = more production.
    If it does- I will continue to have my Man-crush… and expect him to produce w/ elite Hawk players… if he does not produce in WJC’s- maybe he is NOT ready!!!

  3. ebonyraptor says:

    I thought I saw somewhere that Hinostroza was invited to US WJC team too.

    Interesting news from Finland that Jokerit’s coach was fired. Hopefully that lights a fire under the team which would benefit TT. While it’s possible that TT is not surrounded by enough talent to thrive, it equally possible or more so that TT is just plain not ready to play a top-6 center role – and if he can’t handle it in sm-liiga he is faraway from handling it on a contending team in the NHL. I think it’s more likely he plays in Rockford next season than with the Hawks. The worst thing would be to rush him when he isn’t ready to handle it.

    I’m happy to see Hartman is back from injury. He was out almost a month and I never did see what was wrong with him. He scored 2 goals in his last game so it looks like he’s back in the swing of things right in time for WJC.

    My dark horse from this bunch is Luke Johnson playing at North Dakota. Not sure if he’s big enough to play at the NHL level but he’s a nice player I’m keeping an eye on.

  4. Tab Bamford says:

    Vince Hinostroza is indeed at the US Camp.

  5. EspoForever says:

    I saw Hino play live last year for Waterloo and was really impressed then saw him play for Notre Dame this year and was even more impressed. He is one heck of a passer. Hope the injury does not cause a lasting set back for the kid.

    Really like Johns too…have seen him with ND 2-3 times. Over his years there and have always liked his skating and physical presence.

    I will probably go see Rockford this Friday in GR and want to focus on Clendening to see what all the shouting is about. I saw him play before and had to agree with the earlier poster here…did not see what all the hype is about.

  6. Sr. Brad says:

    I agree Wall, the Hawks were very good to Jimmy Hayes…trading him to FLA where he can play in the show night after night, was a great move for his career…I can’t see how the Hayes family would be upset by that…Jimmy was given a number of shots with the Hawks and while he showed well enough, he didn’t scream starter…so I would think the Hawks will sign both of them soon and then have them in Rockford by year’s end…

    I too agree that Dahlbeck is undervalued, but IMO Clendening isn’t over valued…if you watch his performances game in and game out, he’s a top DMan in the making…

    As for next season, the Hawks have options as they can easily deal both Oduya (Clendening) and Rozy (Johns) over the summer if both young DMen show they are ready…I honestly can’t see Keith or Seabrook going anywhere…neither Hammer especially with his Cap friendly contract…so its the bottom 3 that will get replaced over the next 1 to 2 years…either way, Clendening will be coming next season…he’s that good.

    ER, I thought I heard that Hartman hurt his shoulder again…but I am not sure…he’s been great all season long…he’s another player a la Kruger, Shaw, Ross that will likely play for the Hawks sooner than later, as there’s no weakness to his game…smart, smart player…

  7. Peter says:

    Sr. Brad, I think Oduya and Rozy could be on the move again too, but both will have a modified no-trade clause next year. I have no idea the terms though. The D-Man Pairings will get shaken up as well. Does Leddy move up in this case (and then I think Hammer would have to switch sides again)? Does Leddy get paired with a rookie and Hammer too? Would that really protect the rookies? How bad would that hurt team defense. Do we have to keep Oduya because of it or trade Oduya because there would be a taker when potentially no takers on Rozy…My mind races…at least I have the rest of this year to just sit back and watch a Great Hawks team look to make a run!

  8. JS says:

    Peter- My guess would be 2-7, 4-Clendening, 8-Johns. Hammer would be able to go back to his natural side. But at the same time, Oduya and Hammer have been used as the top pairing this year. So good chance Oduya doesn’t get moved at all.

  9. Peter says:

    JS, Good point. I just don’t see us playing Clendening and Johns with the big club unless they are both in the lineup nightly (which you note above). Maybe that means keep what we have with Rozy being the 7th Dman next year, 4 and Clendening together, Oduya and Leddy with Johns in Rockford. I realize me even talking about this is somewhat pointless…but I will note the incredible difference in us talking about a potential 7th/8th dman versus when Stan was first hired and we were worried about a 5th Dman.

  10. JS says:

    Stuff like this is fun to talk about, no matter how pointless it is. I also don’t see the Hawks starting 2 rookie defensemen, that’s why I’m worried Johns will try to catch on with a different team.

  11. AJ says:

    Well Brookbank and Thor should be out of a deal so there may be one spot open. It isn’t like Rosy is going to play 82 games.

  12. Windy City Z says:

    RE: Stephen Johns

    I’m pretty sure the Blackhawks have 30 days to sign him starting the day after his college season ends this year. If not he becomes a free agent, and since he was a 2nd round pick the Hawks wouldn’t receive any draft pick compensation.

    Didn’t Johns attend Hawks camp 2 times though before this year? I think he just wanted to focus on his Senior season at ND this year and not feed the speculation that he might leave to go pro. The Hawks don’t have a physical D-man presence like him in the organization, I really hope he does the right thing and signs with the Blackhawks.

    Holl & Paliota are physical D-men too, the Rockford Blue Line should get a boost of physicality next year.

  13. Rufus T. Firefly says:

    Clendening is the real deal. A top 4 pairing at some point down the road in my estimation. And he may eventually make Leddy expendable from a fitting all the pieces in the financial puzzle perspective. I like Leddy, but Leddy is also overrated by the fans. Clendening has a strong shot of assuming the sort of role Leddy and Oduya are here to play.

  14. Sr. Brad says:

    I don’t see Clendening and Johns simply being the 5 and 6 guys…someone, like Kostka or Rozy, will still be here and it will be a rotation…but Leddy has to move up into the top 4…he’s too good to only be skating 13-16 minutes a night…he can do what Oduya does, and better…as good as Johhny has been for us, he will be moved IMO…

    I see the following pairings…

    Seabrook-Keith
    Hammer-Leddy
    Kostka-Clendening/Johns

  15. J.C. says:

    Watched Clendening play, in person, for the first time this weekend. And he was great. Reminded me of Duncan Keith out there at times, right down to the jersey number. I agree with Brad’s pairings…Seabrook/Keith, Hammer/Leddy, Kostka/Clendening/Johns

  16. Rufus T. Firefly says:

    Clendening is the heir apparent for Leddy, no matter how much that gnaws at some of you. Leddy can become a very attractive trade chip when Clendening is ready. It’s comical how the usual suspect sublminally takes yet another jab at Quenneville by “suggesting” that Leddy should be the second pairing as opposed to Oduya. Whatever. Oduya has been generally exceptional for the Hawks, and the pairing with Hjalmarsson and huge and enviable strength of the Hawks.

    Yeah Sr. Brad, you’re the asshat that I’m referring to. Your schtick has become tiresome.

  17. JS says:

    Rufus- If you were paying attention, you would know that Q has used Hammer and Oduya exclusively as the top pairing this season and a fair amount of last. But judging from most of your observations, I’m guessing you don’t really watch the games.

    Leddy would be a top 4 defensemen on probably 25 teams around the league. Agree or disagree? He’s still also only 22 years old and has 200+ games played. Do you know how many games Duncan Keith had played at 22?

    You would rather keep a 32 year old defensemen than one a decade younger? Alright. Leddy will also still be a RFA when his deal expires. So you’d also rather skate Handzus than Pirri… this is starting to make sense. Old people really do it for you and you don’t understand controllable assets.

    Anyway, I don’t see Kostka being with the Hawks next year… mostly because I don’t think he’s any good and Rozy is still signed. I also don’t see Q having a 2 rookie defense pairing (by I don’t see I mean there is no chance in hell). Leddy and Hammer are also both left handed shots. Makes a lot more sense to balance the defensive pairings so no one has to play on an off-side.

    Keith-Seabrook
    Hammer-Clendining
    Leddy-Rozy/Johns

    Leddy still gets protected third line minutes which may (or may not) help come contract time. But more than likely Oduya is still here next year because he is being used as the shut down pairing.

  18. wall says:

    Guys- I hope I am big time wrong on Clendening… he has great vision/passing up ice…
    BUT- IMO- his skating is not close to 2,27,8… and one of the areas Hawks dominate- D pairings (one elite skater w/ one Position/stronger D man)…

    so
    7/2
    27/4
    8/32 and Dahlbeck w/ be the “Rosey relief”
    if someone gets moved- more likely 27 ( but I am not sold -cuz- my doubts on Clendedning)- IMO- Johns/Dahlbeck are more ready… BUT that means Rosey would have to be moved (less value than 27/so don’t expect) or 8/Clenden plays w/ Hammer- don’t really know if either is ready!!!

    I would hate to lose Johns- in any case! The guy is a Pillar!

  19. JS says:

    I don’t think Clendening has that top end speed, but he moves pretty gracefully and is smart enough to jump plays as they develop. Will he be able to retrieve a puck as fast as 2/27/8? No. But I think the ceiling is high for him on the offensive end.

  20. wall says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Johns/Dahlbeck- even one of recent Euro D-men or Fournier cracks the Hawks line-up before Clendening on long term basis- Especially if Hawks manage to re-sign 27 for another 2-3 years…

  21. Sr. Brad says:

    No Rufus, I am not taking a jab at Q…he’s doing the right thing skating Oduya with Hammer…last season Leddy gots lots of FIRST pairing minutes with Seabrook and they were great…Leddy went south in the playoffs, and probably learned a ton from it…my point is that come NEXT season, Leddy is too good to continue skating 3rd pairing minutes…ergo, Oduya is likely the one gone, regardless of Clendening…

    And Wall, on Clendening’s speed, he’s effectively fast because he is so smooth and graceful…worrying about his speed won’t be something that will ever become a problem…Clenending possesses elite skills and a LOT of strength…he put on another 15 pounds of muscle from last season…by next year, he will be a rock…

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