Blackhawks Sign Carl Söderberg

In the wake of Kirby Dach’s injury at the World Juniors, the Blackhawks needed to add a center to the roster.

Dylan Strome?

Nope.

Enter Carl Söderberg, who signed a one-year, $1M deal with Chicago on Saturday.

Söderberg, 35, was originally a second round pick (#49 overall) by St. Louis in the 2004 NHL Draft. He scored 17 goals with 18 assists in 70 games with Arizona last season.

101 thoughts on “Blackhawks Sign Carl Söderberg

  1. Makes you wonder what it means for Strome’s future, as Soderberg could be 2C which is where Strome probably needs ti show he can be nit bottom 6. Puzzling move with young players seemingly poised to fight for roster spots, just seems like closing the door on them.

  2. I hope to God nobody really thinks a 35-year-old Soderberg is coming in as a 2C. He’s a 4C, maybe 3W. Good depth add.

    This deal does cut into what leverage Strome may have thought he had after Dach got hurt…

  3. This move is a head scratcher, albeit an inexpensive one. Kind of a “who cares” acquisition except it takes playing time away from the players who are supposed to be auditi0ning and getting experience in this supposed youth movement. I’m a “big picture” guy so these “little picture” head scratching moves don’t bother me all that much.

  4. Stans done it again if cat fails and more injuries Detroit might pass us then Jamie can fire Stan I’m sure she can deliver a good blow to his backside without letting the door hit his backside

  5. Hard to see the motivation here without behind the scenes info. I sometimes think these types of signings are to help with language barriers with teammates. Quite a few Swedish players on the roster. Perhaps soderberg jsur saw an opening and contacted the Blackhawks with desire to play here rather than the Blackhawks pursuing him. Worked for kunitz.

    Couple teams over the cap seem to found solutions thoughe injured reserve. Given Dach kinda needs his wrist to take face offs I expect they not rush him back to the lineup.

    Strome would have been wise to take what ever offer was on the table. Even is soderberg is brought in as a temp (which seems somewhat silly given the number of centers already on the team) Strome just lost ice team, especially if Dach is back in a couple months. Bottomline in my eyes the team improves with the signing of soderberg. Writing is on the wall for Smith who is barely even mentioned. Still dont understand the Anisimov trade as I do not believe the Blackhawks were ever over the cap at the time of that trade which cost the team quite a bit more financially. Anyway if soderberg helps the development of some players,fetches something someone for the future at the deadline as well, and helps the team not be totally demoralized for the first few weeks then the signing is a win.

    Where this team goes is almost completely dependent on how all three goalies perform. Surprised local Anderson has not reached out to the Blackhawks about returning to the team. Perhaps he has no desire to return to Illinois. Probably an easy gig for the year getting minimal starts and mostly serve as a backup/scratch/ practice given teams ability to carry three goalies. If I were him I would give the team a call. Again just looking at the schedule wouldn’t expect the team to finish top two and likely not top three but they could snag that fourth spot. Other teams could be devastated by injuries and well. That’s why they play the games….the big question is do you trade players away at the deadline if you’re slotted #4? Gotta keep the Seattle draft in mind…..gonna keep someone to resign them to lose them to Seattle or watch them sign as free agent elsewhere? Who ya gonna replace them with next year? All prospects panning out? Unlikely, down nylande for the year already and then Dach. In short yes I’d trade players who may be lost to Seattle or free agency for quality prospects players to avoid Seattle draft. Recall they must expose someone so without looking they may need to sign someone else just to expose them.

    The coach needs to focus on playing /developing players in proper situations, period. You think this is a year to develop players? Well then the staff should be under a microscope and that doesnt mean win/loss microscope, more of a what is your plan for as far as developing key prospects in practice and in game. Are you starting players specifically in situations for specific reasons? Sounds counterintuitive but I’d put the trade bait deadline players in the best situations to sell them and the prospects for long term development on learning development situations even if the situation is a bit over their head. What does that look like. Well I’m not making millions to be a questionable coach. I happily accept checks for far less feel free to rech out to me. Where does that leave the proven players? They fill in the rest and take the prospects under their wings like this is the big brother club or whatver.

    Also so many times last few years goalie pulled and the top players out there trying to tie it up. They used to do that every other game. I swear back in the mid teens they let the other team have the lead on purpose just to tie it up. Happened all the time.

    This year I would hope to see some prospects in the mix there when the goalie is pulled.

  6. signing a thirty five year old guy to take playing time away from a young guy on a team going nowhere. the gift of bowman keeps on giving.

    i fully believe bowman made moves (like signing bickell and seabrook to ridiculous contracts) that had mc donough’s stamp all over them, but bowman made plenty of terrible moves on his own without mc donough’s help. this move shows that bowman is still perfectly capable of ignorance on his own.

    next will come overpaying strome.

    i feel like i have been put in a bizarro world where pulford has returned to call the shots for the hawks.

    note to rocky: the fans have abandoned the team before when it was horrible year after year, that wasn’t all that long ago, and it can definitely happen again if you don’t straighten out this mess of management on the hockey side of the operations.

  7. You can never have too many centers..Soderberg should fit like a glove at 3C and your bottom six could look like this:

    Janmark-Soderberg-Carpenter
    Wallmark-Kampf-Highmore
    Shaw or Pirri could crack either line as well

    Not a lot of scoring throughout the bottom six but that’s what happens when you lose Nylander and Dach..these lines should, theoretically, be more difficult to play against so hopefully the Toews and Kane lines are deployed strictly for offensive zone starts. And I personally love having four centers in the bottom six but that’s just me.

    I also don’t think signing Soderberg for one year blocks any young player’s development or opportunity. If Barratt, Hagel or Kurashev have a monstrous training camp, they’ll find room for them on the roster..

  8. I can see Strome not staying with this/or he doesnt want to do 1m so this guy did instead.

    Honest, like the movie Role Models.

  9. Slayer, exactly Sod is a very good 3rd line center and with the two good bottom 6 players we got ufa wise thats 3/6 so who ever in in the other 3 spots it makes the bottom 6 good.

    Goalies is the thing.

  10. Ok.
    For every Michal Handzus signing, there is a Chris Kunitz signing.

    For every Brad Richards signing, there is an Andrew Brunette/Fernando Pisani signing.

    Point is, this recently promoted Pres Of Hockey Operations is 2 for 5 in signing grizzled up veteran towards who are 1-2 years from retirement.

    If Soderberg washes out, and given Phx did not re-up this guy, is probably the outcome, that will make this POHO 2 for 6.

    In other work arenas, like probably yours, people get fired for that kind of performance.

    Toss in brilliant decisions like 92 for Jokiharu, and Hjarms for Connor Murphy, along with others noted ad nauseam, and firing goes without saying in your job arena, doesn’t it?

    Bob Pulford lives again as player decision maker on West Madison Street.

  11. Wow…for guys who where interested in signing a deep players that can be move for a draft pick at the trade Deadline….that’s it ..you got it and he is cheap at 1 million.
    Good move for the Hawks while waiting for Dach to come back plus the guy is really À solid player …missing around 10 games In 8 years since joining the NHL .never sick never hurt having a 48% on face off. Never take bad penalty. 44 min penalty in is last 150 games. At one million …it’s a good deal I think ..but I am far from being the guru here with all the knowledge many guys have here . Just an opinion.

  12. Also another player with size for people saying Bowman only does smurfs. We have added

    Soderberg 6/3 210
    Jannmark 6/1 200
    Morrison 6/3 210
    Carpenter 6/0 200
    Kampf 6/2 190
    Wallmark 6/0 180

    So even though two guys are under 200 but they are over 6 ft. Overall much bigger then before.

    Defense got more size with a healthy 7 and that green giant we got.

    Filled in the spots with 5 players with size and ejected 5 smurfs. Roster better except goalies.

  13. Good post Hawks2010 – Like you said Soderberg will likely be moved at the deadline to a contender and he is much more affordable than Hoffman but the same idea

    As long as the core 4 are playing there has to be balancing act between competing and rebuilding like it or not

    Losing Nylander and Dach is significant and to do nothing tells your veterans that you’re not interested in winning especially when all it takes is $1 M to sign a Soderberg who will help

    He’s not going to hold anyone back either -if it were a 3 year deal even 2 then yes but not a 1 year

    Solid move IMO

  14. Also posted in Dach thread.

    Just search for Dach wrist pic and you can see the picture of his wrist.

    Gruesome.

    I prefer not submitting links myself. That would be Tab’s choice.

  15. Tab in your article you say Soderberg wss signed to fill Dach’s void and you think it’s crazy to say he could replace Strome. With Soderbergs solid 2 way play he brings more offensive skill than a Carpenter who centered Kane a big part of last season.

  16. @Neil

    Jamie is in charge of the scoreboard stats and the restaurant offerings during games at the UC. I hope there was some sarcasm in your post because the only people she can fire are the ones who continually run out of popular concession items game in and game out.

  17. Silent – how do we know that pic of Dach’s wrist is legit?

    There seems to be a lot more going on there than a fracture – maybe the medical reports are downplaying the injury or maybe the pic is fake news

  18. This is an excellent signing. Soderberg will be a legit 3rd line Center until April 12th. Hopefully Dach will be ready to go by then. So Soderberg is a place holder until the trade deadline. A guy like this on an expiring cheap contract should net a 3rd rounder from a contender.

    I would imagine Janmark should be able to net a 3rd rounder as well.
    And if we are not going to protect deHaan or Murphy, they too could be really valuable at the deadline.

  19. Fair point wrap. Perhaps we will even find out the kid wasn’t injured at all!

    Nothing would surprise me any more.

  20. Like to combo picks and make one of those 3rd a 2nd pick. Thats how we create 1st and 2nd by manufacturing them adding to it. Need those 1st and 2nds without trading 19/88 to get a 1st.

  21. Like to combo picks and make one of those 3rd a 2nd pick. Thats how we create 1st and 2nd by manufacturing them adding to it. Need those 1st and 2nds without trading 19/88 to get a 1st.

  22. Agree Morrison. I also believe with a shortened season there will be a lot of buyers at the trade deadline and few sellers. In other words, lots of teams in their respective divisions trying to squeeze into 4th place. Teams like the Hawks who have openly announced the rebuild can auction off guys that will be role players on contenders.

  23. Do you guys really think a 35 year old guy who is 1-2 years from retirement is is a good signing?

    Even Young Tab calls this guy a 4th liner.

    Something this team already has tons of

    Surprised that yahoo Bowman did not sign another 3rd pairing defenseman.

    Something else they have tons of.

    Took a Ferrari and made it a Hyundai.
    That is what this man has done.

    Him. Not McDonough. Him.

    C minus work says Young Tab.

    And yet, there are those that continue to laud this man on this blog.

    Simply amazing how the human race can be lemmings on some topics.

    Will never understand it.

  24. Excellent signing? Pick up a veteran to try to make the playoffs?

    I thought the goal was to win the cup?

    Why not try to use extra cap space to take on another teams bad contract and get a first round pick in return? Like Carolina did with Toronto (Patrick Marleau)
    Hawks had the space and decided to sign injury prone veterans for a big playoff run instead.

    Why not pull a Montreal or an Ottawa and aquire several draft picks to build some depth in the system which would lead to team depth instead of having a bunch of third and fourth line players that few teams would actually want.

    Signing these third line past their prime players that were never great in the first place to fill a roster will never help build a Stanley Cup contender.

    It will probably lead to prolonged mediocrity if that’s what you are looking for.

    There are no participation awards in the nhl.

  25. Craig, good idea.

    Stape, thats why I want top 5 skill draft players I am not being shy about that. NOt routing to lose but that is best thing for young core/which we must have to be a top team again.

  26. Hawks29 – the concise, fact based honor roll post. Bravo.

    Since McDonough was fired, Bowman’s rebuild (his words) has jettisoned the loyal and stellar (and most important player on a piss poor D team/system) Crawford ($3.5 or $3.9M for two seasons) and added $4.3M for Janmark, Wallmark & Soderburg. Clogging up slots for Kurashev, Hagel & others.

    As someone else intelligently posted, fans abandoned the team once before. Rerun on that well on its way.

  27. Love people complaining. One guy even compared joker trade to a broken down hammer. Just silly season.

  28. Grotesque mismanagement by the ever incompetent Sir Bowman. Now they will have no choice other than to give Strome away because they won’t have the $ to sign him and they’ve made him turn his back on the organization. So an unsigned first round young talented player will basically walk for nothing.
    You are ‘the man’ Stan.

  29. @Garn

    They have $4.2 million in cap space. Strome isn’t going anywhere. If you think strome gets anywhere near that you really have no clue about the cap.

  30. “We want to develop young players so they can take steps forward in the coming years” – Bowman

  31. Fenn beat me to the punch. What do you want to pay Strome Garn? $1 over 1.5mil might be too much. How about trading his rights to STL for Dunn’s rights. STL cap straped. Dunn probably 3mil a yr minimum. Even ask Bos for Cehlarik’s rights.

  32. @JR

    I’m not a strome fan, but we don’t need Dunn. Also cehlarik isn’t any good no need for him for him here.

  33. I stubbed my toe earlier today … and yes, you guessed it – it was Stan’s fault.

    I overslept and missed the school bus back in ’62 when I was in 3rd grade – it was Stan’s fault.

    The Hawks didn’t win the Cup in 2020 – Stan’s fault. The Blues, Wild, Stars and a bunch of other teams didn’t win the Cup in 2020 either – Stan’s fault.

    We’ve had nasty weather lately – Stan’s fault.

    Am I doing this right?

  34. Ottawa needs players. Can we get a second from them for Sttome? Then we sign Anthanasiou or more ice for the kids.

  35. In order to be a seller at the deadline you have to have something to sell.
    The Hawks now have some nice role players such as Soderberg and Janmark, perhaps deHaan or Murphy to move at the deadline.
    Repeating what I posted earlier, Soderberg could land us a 3rd or 4th round pick. Same thing with Janmark.
    We just lost Dach and Nylander for the long term. Plugging in Soderberg until Dach is healthy is not a bad move. Hagel WILL be in the top 28. Kurashev might need one more year in Rockford.
    Soderberg is not here to help the Hawks make the playoffs. He’s here to showcase himself to contenders in this shortened season.

  36. Craig I hear you. Others can’t see further down the road. They are using their bright lights in the fog.

    I say we get Backes and a second from Ana. I don’t want or think he can be in an Indian Head sweater so waive him. That should be a high 2nd pick.

    Brandon Sutter sane thing with a second. He can stay and play then flip.

  37. @JR

    That would be a great deal for the hawks
    But can’t see Vegas doing that at all. Give something to get something.

    Kubalik/Toews/Tuch
    Cat/Soderberg/Kane
    Janmark/Wallmark/Shaw?
    Highmore/Kampf/Hagel

    Dach when healthy takes second center

    Go from there

  38. Eb,
    Playing devil’s advocate is one thing…..playing Bowman apologist is quite another.

    You are very good at the former, but stink at the latter.

    He is doing ‘C minus work’ said the purveyor of this blog, couple months ago.

    Nothing has changed since.

    Apologies for crappy work only last so long.

    See: Matt Patricia.

  39. ER, that son of a bitch got water in my right ear today.

    Thought we were suppose to use amber covers for the dust/sand.

    We better not eat anything/Smith let it run out on its own/unless were adding a good prospect.

  40. UNderstand people are pissed/and at Bowman but what is he suppose to do right now that could add us picks/prospects other then what people have said about eating and taking good with it. You trade all of these guys and get 3/4th picks and a bunch of them as many as you can and trade up/with adding.

  41. Well…Soderberg is not a bad player, but he is 35. What happened to Bowman’s big decision to rebuild and give our prospects a real shot. Some of you guys keep slotting in Kampf and Carpenter and High more. These three are useless…no scoring. And they’re not going to change into scorers overnight. What the hell happened to bringing in Kurashev, Hagel, Maybe Barratt? And Suter? These guys are scoring goals in Europe right now. Rebuild means NEW BLOOD. At least, that’s what the genius Stan B said. Already managing oh so wisely to clear out Corey Crawford. Bowman is an idiot and will screw this up all the more. His track record says so. So please don’t try to tell us what a good job he’s doing.

  42. Just be glad Stan didnt trade a second round pick for a soon to be ufa center making 6.5 million Not sure if derek Stephan is good at defense or soemthing but yikes that’s a goofy trade if you ask me. Someone care to explain this trade?

  43. Actually to follow up on stepan I do understand his cap hit is higher than his salary, were signing bonuses already paid? Either way still making more than soderberg

  44. Fenn thinking Strome and Smith at 1.625 for Tuch. Saves Vegas .375 from Carpenter’s 2yrs and Smith’s 1.

    A 21-22 top 6 could be
    DCat Toews Kubalik
    Tuch Dach Kane
    Now you got a Right hand and left hand shot on each line. Also not two smaller guys on one line.

  45. I agree with previous lineup posts.I would love to see Hagel,Kurashev,Morrison,and Suter take spots from Kamph,Carpenter,and Highmore.I also agree with JR.I don’t want to see Kane and Debrincat regularly on the same line.Save that for the powerplay or an odd shift when you are trying to generate offense.On Defense I hope Mitchell and Kalynuk take spots away from Boqvist.Throw Keith and DeHaan together and put Murphy and Zadorov with each of the rookies.

  46. Or we got Soderberg simply because Strome isint staying for 1 m and 92 77 are out for season/deadline.

    And the younger players are going to play as much as they were going to anyways. Not all at once/they might not be ready until 2nd 40 games? not all of them at least.

    Trade Strome? or have more centers.

    For Kampf and Carpenter they are PK DEF FW not scoring 4th liners. Same exact thing as Krugs Frozal. How many goals did Krugs and Frzal score each yr on avg. maybe a little more but basically the same.

    Have to have good PK to do anything just like goalies. Kampf Carpenter just like Krugs Frozal got the PK back to top 10 and thats without Hammer and Oydua.

  47. Now without Saad the PK might not be as good. Same for Crow. So maybe without Crow Saad tank because PK wont be good without those two guys even with 19 81 and 16 67 and 4 27.

  48. MRFENN92 – are you daft? Bowman is destroying whatever good culture the Hawks may have had with players all over the league. The way he is dealing with and treating Strome is deplorable. No player will want to come here because of how he autocratically deals with players. He is a disgrace to what Hawk culture had finally become after the Bill years of player oppression – now we are headed right back there. Strome should NEVER have been treated this way – never! Regardless what Strome is worth in any contract Stan is breaking his will to ever stay as a Hawk.

  49. Not having Nylander and possibly Strome in the lineup isn’t going to make a difference. Just look at their track records the last couple of years. Any of the new additions could make up for their (lack of ) offense and are almost certainly better on defense. It’s going to be a long year unless guys like Suter surprise.

    Some of these signings are probably intended to try and help limit scoring chances on the unproven goalies. That way they might be able to win some games without having to put up 5 or 6 goals on offense every night.

  50. Looks to me like to start year, either Quenneville or Shaw will play with Toews and Kubalik. Maybe i’m wrong but Cat and Soderbeg instead of Dach will try to recreate a Panarin- Anismov line with Kane. Strome assuming he is signed to give offense on a line with Janmark and Wallmark. Leaves Highmore, Kampf, Carpenter, Smith and Pirri who need waivers. Shaw on ir to start year, leaves 14, Smith caphit go thru final day of season, Pirri or others could be claimed. Smith if healthy could then for half caphit retained be available to a team to go directly on taxi squad as veteran depth, not need to go on nhl roster then and his 10 game 30 day window be available plus emergency recall if needed. Maybe Seeler attract somebody that way too. Then could use Hagel and Suter to bounce in and out off lineup and move on off taxi squad without restrictions and still get quite a few games. Could see Carlsson in that type of role too with Mitchell and maybe Boqvist. With the obvious other 5 D needing waivers on Nhl roster. With alot 4 games in 6 days or 8 in 13 or 14 days, rest/maintenance days be a bigger part likely this year.

  51. After some time to reflect on the Soderberg signing, I’ve come around to not hating it. The gist of my change of mind is that Soderberg will provide a good defensive game from the forward position which will help Boqvist, Mitchell and other young d-men learn how to play structured defense versus the chaotic scramble we saw too often last season when the forwards weren’t playing defense the right way.

    I’m not sure Stan signs Soderberg if Dach didn’t get injured because Dach is a solid defensive player – but without Dach in the lineup there is one less defensively capable center/forward in the lineup.

    Maybe that’s a stretch … but that’s the only thing I can find to hang my hat on so there it hangs.

  52. I see more Tuch mentions – please NO. On the positive side of his resume – he’s big, fast and young. On the negative side – he’s too expensive with a contract that lasts too long for a 3rd line winger. He doesn’t have top-6 skills – he’s not a great passer or shooter – he’s a very good 3rd liner. But at $4.75M for 6 more years – he’s too expensive.

  53. Anyone else find it odd that we are getting no updates about the Dach injury?

    The silence is deafening. And potentially not good news. Seems like a simple break would have been put in a cast and would already have 20 signatures on it.

    Unless………

  54. Logic, good name this posts tells it.

    PUCKLOGIC
    December 27, 2020 at 10:22 am
    Not having Nylander and possibly Strome in the lineup isn’t going to make a difference. Just look at their track records the last couple of years. Any of the new additions could make up for their (lack of ) offense and are almost certainly better on defense. It’s going to be a long year unless guys like Suter surprise.

    Some of these signings are probably intended to try and help limit scoring chances on the unproven goalies. That way they might be able to win some games without having to put up 5 or 6 goals on offense every night.

  55. ER, also without Saad another DEF FW is good to have even though we added those two bottom six players.

  56. If there is a yr Dach can miss its this yr and timing in getting another top 5 skill draft player.

    77 better be ok longterm.

  57. Not saying Soderberg id a 2nd line center on a top 5 team but were not a top 5 team right now. Soderberg 2nd line center is like Hands being 2nd line center when we had dynamic 3rd line centers in Bolly Shawzer Teuvo/Vermette. Having more centers and faceoff players and more size is the thing people complained about the most? right. Now we get that and.

    Why is it that when Bowman waits for a fair caphit contract he is a loser and when other GMs do it they are geniuses. Everyone says he overpays so when he is not doing that hes a loser.

    Pick one way. All GMs are losers or geniuses when doing that.

  58. Ian – I wondered the same about Soderberg playing centre for Kane in Dach’s absence so as not to disrupt other lines

    However I’m hopeful that Suter plays in the top 9 at least and possibly top 6 – he seems legit from what we know but the proof will be in the pudding when training camp starts – maybe he plays with Kane and Dcat with Toews (I don’t think Quenville should be anywhere near the top 6)

    IDK if Shaw starts on IR – have you heard anything to this effect because indications from Shaw seemed to be that he was going to play – how well we don’t yet know

    Silent – I also find the lack of Dach injury updates troubling – hope it’s just because it’s Christmas time

  59. Bowman should have had the balls to say NO to Dach when Dach asked to play in the useless World Junior Joke of a tournament . This would have been a great leadership growing season for Dach .

    Now Stan`s knee jerk reaction ….sign A waste of space player as to which we have many ,to a space eating roster spot ….

    Brutal , but consistent Stans model .

  60. ERap don’t think 4.75 is much for a power forward. DCat got 19.2mil for 3 yrs vs 28.5 for double the time.
    Believe he has a short fuse too. Will help to protect Dach and Kane. 20 goal scorer. With D&K might be 30+ scorer. Reincarnation of a Secord Savard Larmer line.

    4.75 easier to move if need be too.

  61. Wow. Ottawa traded a 2nd rounder for Derek Stephan and his albatross cap hit. Unreal. Santa Claus showed up for Arizona.
    Honest Guy nailed it. Thank God Stan did not make this type of deal for Soderberg.

    On Strome. I’m told management believes he will sign. Have not heard a thing about him being traded.

  62. Ian ….please noooo …not Quenville…noooo don’t give them the idea by writing that here …hehe …hope they don’t read your post. ;)
    Try everybody else…we saw this guy in playoff and I had enough…send him to Florida for a second round pick ……ok ok third round pick ? …ok ok ..fifth round pick …ok ok…6 .?

  63. The reason I think Quenneville gets a look to start is Toews apparently is quoted as saying he liked playing with him. Colliton seems to like him and gave him the opportunity for a game in playoffs there. With no exhibition games, i think he could 1st of likely a number of players to be tried there.

    Wrap no haven’t heard anything on Shaw either way, that he is good to go or not. Just with concussions, until you see him out there, alot of grey area exists. Expect to see Suter get looks all over the lineup, Janmark too and maybe Hagel, all could play up down the lineup as needed.

    I think giving the young goalies a legitimate shot is driving these offseason moves, Soderberg for Dach as well, after all this is the year to see what they can do. Agree Soderberg will be moved, along with Janmark and one at least of Kampf or Carpenter, whoever brings the best return. Have to think some blueline movement before next season too. One of the goalies as depth for a playoff team, could be a throw in along with someone to make a deal work too at tdl.

  64. Only reason I see Ottawa doing it is getting over the floor without spending all the money. If the bonuses were paid 6mil cost only 2mil but a 2nd round. They were doing AZ a favor not them selves.

  65. I’ll point out again we dont necessarily know the motivation of this signing. Bottomline he does make this team better and takes ice time away from centers the fans here have already written off…or centers we’ve barely even seen play and may not “belong” in the nhl. I dont know what practice looks like…how much tine do they work on face offs? I have no idea but doesn’t Toews take them enough bringing in a vet to help with practice on this alone with the new guys is not a terrible thing. Whatever I dont think this signing is the end of the world.

    Every move made should revolve around the Seattle draft. Have cap space open to pick up a bargain ” trade him or lose him to Seattle ” player from another team, likely will not see this until the brief period between the end of the season and draft.

    Qquestion do you think the team will protect nylander? If they dont will Seattle take him? Strome?

    Can they ask Seabrook to waive his no movement clause ???…..nooooo not so Seattle takes him, so the Blackhawks can use the extra slot to protect someone else.

    Team needs to eat a cap hit +bonus and move dehaan or Murphy in the process to have more eating/legit pickup room just my two cents. Neither player is bad just the situation as it stands.

    Cant make other teams trade with you but you can use leverage

  66. Honest, your/and other peoples expansions ideas are what we better do right. Cannot F that up. We have to come out of that smelling like roses like some teams did to gift/give VEG a top 10 roster when they deserved to suck for first 10 yrs. We need to do the same with this one.

    Then were back on track where we should be along with getting our fair share/deserved top 5 skill draft pick.

  67. Arizona has already paid a few million towards the Stephan contract, Ottawa is not on the hook for all of the Stephan contract.
    Ever since the Shaw trade I have totally lost confidence in Bowman.
    I will say that was the last dumb move that I will not forgive or forget

  68. Honest guy obviously 19, 88 2 & 7 along with Cat and Zadorov will be protected. So could protect 4 more forwards, with Dach and Kubalik exempt, not sure if they do that. So be 2 more skaters in instead D included, so Murphy, Dehaan and Carlsson be in picture. Likely one of Murphy or Dehaan needed to be compliant unless Carlsson plays enough games this season. Say Murphy is protected then Dehaan isn’t, a choice between Carlsson, Strome, Nylander, Wallmark and some 4th line, Rfd. forwards as last guy. If none of other 3 make a statement to say it’s them, possibly it’s Nylander by default is only way i see him on protected list. In that case would hope as we mentioned before that a good player is acquired to protect that another team can’t keep and wants to unload. That is one thing expansion drafts haven’t hurt the Blackhawks.

  69. Forgot to say my pick to Seattle if he impresses this year could be Carlsson unless Murphy is left unprotected. Seabrook can be asked to waive his Nmc, time will tell on that.

  70. Lightning trade Cedric paquette, Brayden coburn and a 2022 second round pick to the senators for Marion gaborik and Anders Nilsson. Both last year of their deals and both LTIR when the season starts

  71. Good to read the expansion stuff and where were at currently/updating that list as we go along so we know where that stuff is all at.

    Even though Murphy is a better player now/same for Haan. Would it be better to keep the younger up and coming player for our list. Or Murphy has good trade value for something. I just donot want to lose good young players.

    We should be adding a good young player/prospect from this expansion situation for a bunch of teams. Make it happen.

  72. I’ll throw in my two cents re: next year’s expansion draft and the concurrent roster construction next year for the Hawks..keep in mind that the Hawks won’t be up against the cap next year, but they also won’t have a lot of extra cap space. Assuming Strome is resigned and it isn’t a gross overpay, the Hawks will have about 16.5-17 mil next year in cap space. However, Kampf, Wallmark, Nylander, Suter, Carlsson and Zadorov are all RFA. The majority of our cap space will be spend resigning our own players. The only way to find more cap space is via trade or via leaving both DeHaan and Murphy exposed in the expansion draft. For example, you could protect Toews, Kane, Cat and Strome and then protect Seabrook, Keith, Zadorov, Carlsson..this would then hopefully force Seattle to take either 1. Nylander coming off an injury or 2. DeHaan or Murphy. In which case Seattle probably takes Murphy and after slotting in another entry level contract dman, the Hawks save about 3 mil in cap space. You could also protect Murphy and expose Carlsson and DeHaan but then unfortunately, I don’t see any scenario where the Hawks don’t lose Carlsson. It just depends on how the Hawks internally value their defensemen. I think the Hawks will be fine regardless of who they lose. Is Murphy or Carlsson that much different than Rutta, Kempny, Koekkoek, etc. Murphy is solid on the pk but otherwise, they all feel like 4th-5th defensemen at best which means the Hawks should have replacement level defensemen or better already in the system.

    What the Hawks need to focus on is Keith’s replacement, not Murphy’s. Find a true number one defenseman, and the trickle down effect is real..all of your other defensemen look better when you have a goal scoring, defensively sound, 26 min a night player.

  73. That scenario could play out for expansion draft easily too Slayer, if this years play from the players dictates it. If the Blackhawks decide they need to upgrade in goal for next year and pick up a goalie to protect ahead of the draft. Could be possible if Lankinen most likely, still plays well enough to draw some interest from Seattle. If that is the case, would hope they move him at tdl if interest in him and they plan on acquiring an upgrade to protect.

  74. This is what I didnt know how good is Carlleson projected.

    Yea that top 5 skill draft player got top pair written all over it. And I would add another top pair D guy from ufa/even though caphit would be high so what. We need two.

    Now think of how good our tickle is.

    Power/ufa
    ?/Boq
    ?/Mitch

  75. Could Gostisbehere be a replacement for Keith. Kind of the same player with a 10 year difference. My thinking is that this trade dead line might be super busy.

    Do we know what two divisions will be facing off with each other once the top four of each are decided? The North vs East West vs Central. My second option, also the one I recommend and like is the division with the highest 1st place team win percentage vs the division with the lowest 4th place team win percentage. This way a team will still not know who they are trading with. Some one they might see in playoffs or someone they won’t see until the Stanley Cup Championship.

    Not only will the non playoff teams be sellers but I believe the playoff teams might want to tweak their rosters with other playoff teams.

  76. Wouldn’t mind see them pursue Seth Jones in free agency as no.1 D. Already proven, takes risk away in a draft year that scouting is at minimum, plus strong chance Jackets may be in money saving rebuild mode again by then. Projecting a forward next summer may be safer route to take. Would have to wait until summer of 22, or even add him at tdl in 22 and extend him. Only be 26 at that point, younger defense have time to develop on current roster and have a better idea who else will be in the top 4 at that point.

  77. Re; Seattle draft

    I would be disappointed to lose Murphy who is a solid top 4 D man IMO – someone you can win with

    It’ll be interesting to see Carlsson’s development this year – I suspect he is exposed in the draft unless he really takes a step forward this year (which he might do)

    DeHaan is two years older and it seems more fragile – he would be my choice to go if it’s a D man who goes (although it also wouldn’t surprise me to see DeHaan traded before the expansion draft)

  78. Montreal has 3 #3s, 3#4s, and 3#5s. lets take Tartar off their hands along with some picks. At least get back our #3.

    They signed Corey Perry for $750.000

  79. Yes we have to add a top pair D guy ufa wise with Seabs 7 m caphit. Even if its before Seabs contract is up. You make it happen and then use the 7 m for other players. With essentially mindset wise your using Seabs 7 m caphit towards a top pair # 1 D guy thats 6 7 8 9 or 10 m caphit player. Its worth and only way except for drafting and were already drafting one that way we have two legit top pair D guys.

    Make it happen.

  80. Ahh that looks like a good caphit for the player people here wanted. Its not like LA is a top 5 team so why there sunshine.

    MRFENN92
    December 28, 2020 at 4:51 pm
    Andreas Anthanasiou to the kings
    One year $1.2 million

  81. Tim,
    Just read that.

    Tough blow to a team already razor thin on talented forwards and overloaded with 4th liners.

    Wonder if Bowman will use money he would have paid Dach to secure more 4th liners and grizzled up old guys now?

  82. Just hope the surgery was a success for him and heals a 100% to start next season and by this time next year it will all be water under the bridge.

  83. Its a little bit depressing that we have to watch Strome at 2nd line Center instead of Dach.I think Bowman still needs to add a top 6 forward to this mix.

  84. This. Is by far the most important thing.

    IAN
    December 28, 2020 at 6:27 pm
    Just hope the surgery was a success for him and heals a 100% to start next season and by this time next year it will all be water under the bridge.

  85. Steal of a signing for LA. Will score 25 to 30 goals. Could have gotten him for 2mil and probably 2 if not 3 yrs at 2mil per.

    Brett Ritchie next target to get as muscle if not Matt Martin.

  86. Dach’s prognosis really sucks. Sounds more intricate than most would have thought for a wrist fracture. Probably being extremely careful with his talent and the investment, which I can appreciate.

    With Dach gone I still wouldn’t sign Strome for more than than the qualifying offer. He’s got an effort problem, which is even called out by Eddie-O, and Eddie-O is disliked as the ultimate homer by some folks. Rather see somebody up who’s on the Rockford/Big Team borderline get some time. If it’s all about development, let’s do it that way.

  87. I know we overpaid for Shawzer back but I am glad he doesnt have to be on same team as that douchknee. MTl BOS play 8 games in a row?

  88. Fine with Strome for now/nothing agasint him be good to see him do well numbers wise and get a good deal with another team. If hes not tearing it up with his best friend then he isint worth the caphits he ll get to. Same for 12 right now. hey both need to go to Q school.

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