Blackhawks Sign Scott Darling To 2-Year Extension

Late Sunday night, the Blackhawks announced that they have agreed to terms on a two-year contract extension with goaltender Scott Darling, running through the 2016-17 season.

UPDATE: According to ESPN’s Pierre LeBrun, Darling will be paid $575,000 next season and $600,000 in the 2016-17 season.

You can start the running clock on Antti Raanta’s days as a member of the organization… now.

Scott Darling

49 thoughts on “Blackhawks Sign Scott Darling To 2-Year Extension

  1. Raanta being exposed on the shootout the other night probably didn’t help his case, so I guess Stan and the boys made their choice. Hope they made the right choice.

  2. The Hawks will be fine in the playoffs — if they make it. Winnipeg 4 pts behind, and low and behold, Minnesota 6 pts behind (w/ a game in hand). Hmmm. Interesting. We’ll see how it plays out.

  3. http://wagesofwins.com/2011/07/19/your-nhl-goalie-doesnt-matter/

    for those of you who need more Numbers/stats/proof of why I say “Pay the skaters and not the Goalies”… and Hawks have won 2 cups with average to below average paid goalies… this seemed to be a winning formula in the past- so why Is SB going against it?

    And for guys like JS and AJ- that like Corsi/Metrics…

    click on the above link- been my point for two years now!!!

  4. With Leighton as the #3 goalie in the organization, trading Raanta makes total sense, if there is a buyer for him for help on the roster now.

    the hawks are what 10 -10 since the start of the new year ?

    worse yet on this 8 game homestand they have won 2 out of 7.

    this team looks like its heading for a 1st round defeat. its bad, i mean really really bad. but you guys already have seen and know that.

  5. Wall,

    You should be GM. You’re clearly the smartest guy on this website. Based on your comments on Crawford, I assume you don’t know the difference between your assss and a whole in the ground. Just shut up.

  6. Goalie doesn’t matter? Wouldn’t want to tell Montreal that…tell a Habs fan that Price means nothing…the guy is going to win MVP. I really like Darling …he has been around a while now and has matured well. He reminds me a lot of Ken Dryden…bet Scotty feels the same.

  7. I can see why Wall wants to trade Crawford. A 6 million cap hit for the next 4 years I believe. When the 2 and 3 goalies have better save% and GAA, you could make that argument. But….while I’m unopposed on trading Crawford I’m not necessarily for it. Let’s remember all of Darlings starts came when the Hawks were playing well. It seemed anyone who they put in net was doing well. Now, is that because Darling is that good? Or was it the system in front of him that was helping? I think it’s probably a little bit of both. The system has completely gone to hell, So like Crawfords numbers have, one could also expect replacement level goalies numbers to do the same.

    IF….the hawks were trying to trade Crawford, who wants him? If Cam Wards deal was expiring I could see that, but its not. Edmonton? maybe. Arizona cant pay 2 goalies 6 mil each.

  8. I think Raanta is their best goalie, so why not sit Crawford, or trade him? (assuming anyone would want him)

  9. Mox17- My ass has your lips on it… the Hole in the ground doesn’t!!!

    Way to create/support your argument…

    let’s see if I can help you
    Opinion- you shouldn’t overpay goalie-cuz you can find cheaper/statistically close replacements
    Fact- Hawks have won 2 cups with “average to below average paid goalies”

    see how I supported that argument?

  10. I tend to agree with Wall, even though I don’t know what a “Whole” in the ground is. I thought that $6 mil a year was way too much for Crawford when he signed it. I feel that the drop off from Crawford to Raanta or Darling is not worth the salary gap. To me he hasn’t seemed the same after his foot injury. That $$ could be better spent on building the defense. I hope Crawfords trade value hasn’t lowered too much from the last couple of games.

  11. Please anyone- what teams would be interested in Crow? And of those teams- what might they offer in trade for 50?

    I honestly- am not trying to be jerk/idiot… I am trying to measure possible value…
    and I am just not seeing it. So why was he paid $6M +???

    If SB- offered 81 or 19 or 88… I can think of several teams- that would jump up and I can come up with valued picks/players they would trade for – say – 81…

    But in the case of Crow- I just don’t see other GM’s jumping up and waving their picks/players!!!

    I challenge anyone to come up w/ Crow (teams/scenarios)

  12. Reality: Crawford is a top-12 goaltender in the NHL. Not elite, but a good starting goaltender who has led a team to a Stanley Cup victory – and let me emphasize he did LEAD the team to victory. Crawford should have won the Conn Smythe.

    While I don’t believe it’s an immediate concern for us to consider Crawford being dealt right now (before the deadline), I’ll humor the conversation. What would a team offer for a top-12 starting goaltender with years left on a contract? It depends on how desperate the team (cough… Edmonton…) is for a starting netminder. The bigger issue for the Blackhawks is considering the cost of replacing Crawford AND the assumption that the Hawks are bringing some salary back in any deal that would move 50. The issue the Hawks will have to combat this summer is that their roster is financially (and, recently, on the ice) incredibly top-heavy. But even the Oilers would want/need to move some salary back in a deal to bring on Crawford’s $6M.

  13. Tab- thx for Humor… and while I’m ok w/ comment that Crow is a top 12 goalie (or there about)… You pretty much proved my point… Hawks have to take back $$$ to trade him!!! Well that’s NOT going to work well for Hawks- unless they are getting some really cheap asset(s) back from Oil… that are ELC/underpaid… and who???

    like I said- Crow is about as trade-able as 29…. not many takers- and the price is less than you think… AND CROW IS GOOD!!! 29-Not!!!

  14. The reality is, good players get paid. Not just great players, but good players. Did I just see a post saying 19 NHL goaltenders make $6M or more, is that true? It’s kind of a cost of doing business, these contracts aren’t just generous gifts – agents and the Player’s Association are part of the mix too, it’s a union after all.

    The trick is finding young players who can continually refresh the team. Pokka to me looks like he can be a 3-4 D-man fairly soon (1-2 years) but I’m not seeing more than 1-2 prospects at forward that are much more than role players.

    Darling will now get a chance to cement his status as an NHL goaltender, and if he’s really good he can challenge for even more playing time. He’s now got 2+ years to prove it, and guess what, if he does, he’ll be getting paid too.

    Besides moving out some current guys this summer, they should look to do more deals like Clendenning – move certain prospects while they still have value and don’t look like they’ll fit in Chicago. This Froling guy they got might well be a Leddy like talent, my only beef is he’s small and I maintain they need more size in the organization. The brass kind of fell in love with the Andrew Shaw model and they’ve acquired too many (IMO) with that profile – Garret Ross, Tyler Motte, Anthony Louis, and a few more.

    For this season, i.e. before the trade deadline, I think you do whatever you can to bring in some help given your $$ constraints. The West is so tight and if the team starts playing better down the stretch you want to give yourself the best shot. Which I”m sure McDonough agrees with too.

  15. Part of the problem of trading a goaltender with a high salary and term past this season is the amount of teams that have solid goaltending already. Most goalies run hot and cold. The elite goaltenders transcend that trend. Rinne, Price, MAYBE Luongo. Quick, Miller, any other goalies of that ilk still have the hot and cold issue. Their are teams that would like an upgrade at the goalie position sure. But theyre solid enough to get by. So are the Hawks with Crawford. He’s solid enough to get you there. He’s done it. But so has Fleury and look at the people that wanted him out of Pittsburgh. And they just extended him. Crawford should have won the Conn Smythe in 2013. That’s why he got paid the way he did. The Hawks were forced to pay him.

    At the time, look at who they had behind him. Emery and??? Even then, look at Emery’s numbers. Much better while he was a member of the Hawks. So, is it system or player? That’s the question with Darling and Raanta. When the system works as it should, it makes the goaltender look that much better. I don’t think its as simple as Wall makes it out to be. But I’m not going to completely discredit the idea. A good goaltender makes a lot of problems go away. Does Crawford do that? Probably not. But he’s a proven commodity. A 6 million dollar commodity? For people that value rings yes. But look at those 3 elite goaltenders Price, Rinne, Luongo. None have a ring.

    I look at goalies in a similar sense as quarterbacks. Dan Marino, arguably one of the best quarterbacks ever. No superbowls. 2 quarterbacks that did win? McMahon and Trent Dilfer. Yet, teams value players that have won a cup. And just for arguments sake, go compare Jay Cutler and Troy Aikman’s stats its quite interesting.

  16. Crawford made a lot of problems go away in the first part of the season. Ask Minnesota or Nashville or San Jose how simple it is to replace\find a consistently good starting goaltender. Especially Minnesota. They’re in the playoffs with a netminder who doesn’t suck the whole season. But its super easy to find goalies!!!!! The dominating play by Patrick Kane has hidden a lot as well (who is definitely this teams MVP btw).

    With games like half or Friday’s and all of Sunday’s, improving two roster spots doesn’t really help the situation.

    The stretch pass has been eliminated, which is where basically most of the Hawks offense starts. The secondary outlet up the boards has been completely shut off. I’m sorry but a competent 3rd pairing D man does not solve that.

    The abhorrent play by the forwards, with the exception of Kane, Hossa and probably Saad — The same group that went to the WCF mind you and was 4th in the league in shot suppression ANNNND won a Cup the year before that — either lacks the interest or urgency to play a 200ftgame. This is with no injury crisis. Richards has been better than Zeus and losing Bollig shouldn’t have the bottom 6 in this much disarray. Should be a wash at worst.

    It is unacceptable for this group to be allowing on average 3.5 more shots per game this year with basically the same line up. Unless the league has adapted to Q and he sucks at making adjustments, like I’ve complained about the last 4 years, there aren’t really any other reasons other than the players not caring in which case you open another can of worms.

    They are 13th in the league in Fenwick against (at evens). 4th last year. That is a huuuuuuge drop off. And this isn’t something that just started a month ago, this.has.been.the.whole.year.

    And guess what… At 5v5 Chicago allows more shots per 60 than Edmonton. The freaking Oilers. But seriously a third pairing defender and grindy forward solve everyone’s woes. Give me a break.

    There’s a bigger problem than aww shucks Crawford makes too many monies, or man Sharp is old and a prick he should be traded or Trickle Bickle lollygags. Most of this crap has been masked by brilliant play by a few individuals but man does it show when they hit a valley. And it is ugly.

  17. With all those problems if the team shooting % bumps by a point I think that puts them in second in the league in scoring and probably, at least on paper, improves the fan bases feelings about this group.

  18. This roster isn’t good enough, period. Call it a team in a state of transition, or call it Bowman dropping the ball, or call it being boxed into a corner because of the salary cap, or call it the failings of younger players in the system. To me, the onus is on Stan Bowman. His “vaunted” farm system has produced way too little. And he elected to “go for it” this season, which in hindsight was a bad mistake.

    My current season grades, BASED ON THE ROLE EACH RESPESCTIVE PLAYER IS ANTICIPATED TO SERVE on this roster…
    Grade A – Kane
    Grade B plus – Saad, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson
    GradeB – Versteeg, Keith, Crawford, Raanta
    Grade B minus – Toews, Hossa
    Grade C – Kruger, Carcillo
    Grade C minus – Rosival,
    Grade D – Sharp, Richards, Bickell, Shaw, Oduya, Runblad
    Grade D minus – Smith

    The meatball brigade likes to rip Joel Quenneville for his unwillingness to play younger talent, which is a crock o’ crap. Under Q’s tenure Hjalmarsson, Leddy, Saad, Bickell, Shaw, Kruger, Smith, Crawford and Raanta all washed on shore. It’s not Q’s fault that Bowman’s player development system is WEAK and produced shockingly little. Pirri and Morin were busts. Stalberg was a one-dimensional bust. Hayes couldn’t skate and was a lousy fit. Teuvo is a novelty act and will NEVER fit into what we do in Chicago, plus he is massively and comically overrated.

    So where are Bowman’s great prospects?!? Hartman looks like a dime a dozen Rockford shuttle type. McNeil is a disappointment. Clendening was a big disappointment. Not hearing much about Dahlbeck. Johns has been hurt (and I really like him, so he gets a pass on that one). Danault is just a role player. Etc.

  19. Ernie, Not sure what your football QB argument is. If Marino had been on the 85 bears, they would have won more SB’s than with McMahon. Eli Manning has two SB’s, but I don’t see teams clamoring for him. NFL teams win with all types of QB’s. It is a goofy game that is hard to compare with it’s own history much less other sports.
    When you have a salary cap, you have to allocate the $$ the right way. A goalie making +$5million more than his backups should have a bigger gap in numbers. I just don’t see the talent or numbers drop off to justify the salary cap hit. Even if you have to pay a portion of Crawford’s salary on a trade, it would be worth it to get the cap space to sign (or re-sign) someone else. You look at Bickel. I would have no problem paying him $2 mil, but he makes way too much for his production. He has the most “hits” on the team, but how many of those hits actually get the puck? His hits are just finishing a check after the puck is gone. I’m not sure how valuable those hits are.

  20. So the Hawks sign Darling to two years at a reported $800,000 per season. I LOVE the move, because Darling is a truly BIG goalie that has paid his dues, he has succeeded at every level and has no flaws in his overall game (all big goalies will have “5-hole” issues, its physics). But mostly because it is what Coach Q wants! I see Darling as the goalie moving forward. But at what cost? The Hawks, seeking to save pennies on their dire salary cap issue, send down Raanta (ostensibly for the purposes of trading him) who has played incredibly well considering Q RARELY PLAYS HIM! Why? Because Q doesn’t TRUST Raanta, but he does Darling! Does it make sense to me? No, but I’m NOT THE COACH, Q is!

    So, Raanta 25, is 7-4-1 with a 1.89 GAA, a .936 SV% and TWO shutouts with the Blackhawks this season and a $750,000 salary gets sent down while Crawford, not a bad goalie, but also not a great one, stays because they have ZERO options with him! Crawford is 23-14-1 with a 2.36 GAA, a .918 SV% and only ONE shutout making $6 million a season for the next 4 years. Scott Darling is 5-2 with a 1.97 GAA and a .937 SV% and a $800,000 salary. In a normal situation is Crawford the problem? No! He helped the Hawks win a SC 2 years ago and is a solid professional…he can do the same things again. But is he worth $6 million a season on a team with NO CAP SPACE and two good young goalies in tow? Also NO! And if a number of other IDIOTIC GMs around the league are STUPID enough to pay decent goalies this amount of money, there is nothing saying that we should! Do you know how many people go in the exact wrong direction during a crisis? MOST! That’s why few survive such events!

    What is the problem in Chicago that has resulted in “only 2” Stanley Cups during this current run? The disparity between the Coach and the GM! Does this make either one bad or a bum? Absolutely not! Q is a sure thing HOF coach because he preaches Defensive responsibility from his forwards creating teams with great overall team defence. But he is an “old codger” that is NOT progressive and is stuck in his own ways…again, this does not make him “a bum” or a bad coach, just Joel Quenneville! Is Stan Bowman a bad GM for drafting the likes of TT, Kevin Hayes, McNeil, Danault, Clendening, Fournier, etc, NO! These were all good draft selections. But Stan Bowman drafts with a Chicago Blackhawk vision THAT THE COACH DOESN’T SHARE! They are miles apart in their philosophies on which types of players win hockey championships. Bowman looks at Patrick Kane and sees a small, somewhat timid (at least used to be), offensively talented point producing machine that has succeeded to the top of the heap (he’s the BEST Hawk player this season, by FAR)! So why not Clendening, why not TT, why not Fournier? There’s no reason why not, but not everyone is like Patrick Kane and survive and produce right away…most need TIME and PATIENCE…something this coach has NONE OF for youngsters. Again, this isn’t ripping Q…he is just being himself. But Q has a set of standards for the young players that is sky high and a razor thin leash when it comes to mistakes. Veterans like Rozy can make mistake after mistake after mistake and he publicly defends them after games…again, this is Q. Does it make him a bad coach? Again, obviously not!

    But when your GM is CONSTANTLY drafting players that his coach doesn’t prefer and won’t play, no matter how talented they are, then what’s the POINT? Q has taken Brandon Saad (a 2nd rounder that they call “Little Hoss”), Andrew Shaw (a 5th round tough mucker) and Marcus Kruger (a 5th round Swede with wheels and defensive instincts)…this year he added TVR and Scott Darling. With TVR he literally had few other options, so he made due with what he was given!

    Stan Bowman IS THE PROBLEM in Chicago even though he’s actually a talented GM and good with numbers. Why? Because he has chosen to have Q coach his team and yet DOESN’T SUPPORT Q’s style of coaching! Do you want to develop your draft picks into good NHL players and hope to win Cups along the way? Then Q is NOT YOUR GUY! Do you want to win SCs when you’re talent is close to winning, regardless of the cost? Then Q IS YOUR GUY! Make a fucking decision already!

    You can’t have it both ways with Coach Q…he is what he is…get it? It doesn’t make either of them bad in their respective professions, but it does tell us what their preferences are! Q wants to win at all costs…if he played Poker or Hearts, he would be trying to take control/win every hand with a pair of twos! Love him or hate him, that’s Coach Q. If he’s your coach, clearly you Love him, so SHOW HIM SOME LOVE! Draft more Garrett Ross’ and Stephen Johns and trade your TTs, Adam Clendenings and Mark McNeil’s for PROVEN VETERAN ROLE PLAYERS that your Coach feels comfortable playing! Who was the MVP of last year’s SC playoffs???

    Do I agree with Q’s style of coaching? Not really, but WHO CARES! I am not the Coach of the Hawks and neither are any of you, nor is Stan Bowman! To deny your HC the tools that he needs to win championships is either incredibly stupid (and Stan Bowman is not that!) or incredibly STUBBORN! And if you were to use one word to describe Q I’ll bet stubborn would be right near the top of the list!

    So there we have it, simply using some basic Holmsian detective investigating. Bowman and Q don’t see eye-to-eye on how to operate the Blackhawks, and operate includes the Scouts, GM, Coaching Staff, etc…its a team effort where EVERYONE has to be on the same page and the Chicago Blackhawks are NOT! Again, this doesn’t make anyone horrible or stupid, just selfish, which is the backbone of stubborn!

    If Stan Bowman wants Q as his coach, then he needs to go “ALL IN” with Joel Quenneville! Because thinking that you are going to “teach an old dog new tricks” along the way is the kind of thinking that leads to the Titantic, which is what we are beginning to see happen!

    Remember, this team is still largely the same team that lost the SC last year on a fluke bounce in OT of game 7, at home! Its a lineup filled with SC champions and has at least 4 HOF’s…it also features a healthy and motivated Kris Versteeg, which is 180 degrees from last year’s playoffs! The Hawks can win another Cup this season, but Bowman has to decide what he wants to do! Be in charge and show your HC who’s boss or WORK WITH your HC and give him what he thinks he needs to win REGARDLESS OF THE COST!

    Life is entirely about living in the NOW…just do a little reading on Quantum Physics! If Q is your Coach and you believe in him, then give him the necessary pieces to win and put your personal ego in the garbage can where it belongs! If not, fire him and bring in a coach like say Mike Babcock, who will mix youth with veterans on a regular basis! But make a decision Stan Bowman, because YOU and YOU ALONE are killing the Hawks right now, and you possess all the skills and intelligence to be a great GM! So DECIDE!

  21. The roster IS GOOD ENOUGH in Chicago as long as Q can add the one or two players he needs…that’s it! This is still essentially the same team that almost won another Cup last season! Sure we lost Leddy, but Q didn’t skate him as a difference maker, so its not a loss to this roster if Q doesn’t believe in him!

    I don’t think Q is right about some things, but he is sure right about a lot of them! Let him COACH by giving him what he needs! I don’t think for one second Q was behind the decision to sign Brad Richards as the 2nd line Centre. Richards has been in Q’s “doghouse” for most of the season. David Runblad was NOT Q’s decision and not his type of player. These guys are killing the Hawks because of what COULD be skating in their place and they don’t need to be stars or young!

    Right now trading away the rights to say TT to get us the 2 key role players that Q needs to make us a solid 2 way team again is MORE THAN FAIR! The NHL is a BUSINESS, not a game…the goal for most franchises is to win the Cup every year. Q can do this with the nucleus he has around him, but he MUST be given the role players that he can work with!

    Again, does this set us up for a collapse in a few years time when Toews, Kane, Hossa and Keith aren’t so dominant? YES! But what do you want? Make a decision and run with it…if Q is your guy then give him what he NEEDS to win…because at least you know that you can trust Q to win!

  22. Gravy- good post… I hope Ernie’s QB thing means… that titles can be won with less than the Best at the position (like CC/Niemi)– imo- it’s about finding the “best” for the least money- In a Cap world!!!

    Ya- can’t pay everyone… AND too often they get paid for what they did… and not what they are doing… Like Hof said-

    SB’s Job is to stay ahead of the curve… Not- fall in love with what guys did last year!!!

    Rufus- great post… where is this Vaunted Prospect pool???
    Who is going to put the Puck in the net? Lot’s of little passers…
    who is going to go to the net???

    Did you see the Bruin’s No-name – Ferlin??? Shoulder are biggest player… then forearm shiver Runbad… then drop a pass in between the dots- to a wide open guy???

    AJ- me thinks Wild will make the PO’s and go deep if they do!!!

  23. I am all in with Rufus’ post. I think TT should be given more of a shot as 2C, but damn Q plays young players…especially when they earn time. Q didn’t sit Saad because he couldn’t. When Shaw came up, Shaw earned the time. Q played Kruger almost more games in the 2011 playoffs than the regular season (yes he had just come over from Switzerland) because he earned the time. If TT had lit the world on fire, he would still be here.

  24. Let’s put the gun down for a moment – Confidence is a huge factor for any NHL team and the Hawks aren’t playing with any of it. A few weeks ago the Kings were going to be the first cup winner in a long time to miss the playoffs then they rattle off 7 in a row. The Wild were horrible then they get some confidence in their goalie and are now world beaters. I agree that this Hawks team has a lot of holes but they still have a shot at turning things around. It will take more than Darling and Nordstrom to turn the tide and hopefully SB will get aggressive before the trade deadline. I would move Sharp as he is going to have to go anyway for salary cap reasons and he should have significant value to someone as a proven goal scorer.

  25. only on person on this team is “untradable” from a franchise stand point. 19.

    Everyone else is tradable if the return is right. period. Crow can get traded if we get the right pieces back. yes its more likely ranttaa goes, but we dont “need” crow.

  26. Oduya out a couple weeks, Darling starts vs. the Panthers tomorrow.

    So Oduya is out until after the deadline – Erixon should finally get to play.

  27. My point was, that a single great player doesn’t win you the big one. Which I believe is Wall’s point as well. The hawks equivalent to the 85 bears defense is puck posession. Or at least thats what they’d like to do. Possess the puck, block shots. Goaltender looks stellar. When that system breaks down, and the other team has the puck with high quality chances: goalie looks dreadful. So to Wall’s point, he wants to improve the team around the goaltender by downgrading that position to allocate more money to better players in front. In theory that works.

  28. I’m a big TT fan and I’m in the crowd that thinks it would be a mistake to trade him for a short term gain. I think TT will be a very good NHL player when he reaches his peak. BUT, he is far from his peak. That doesn’t mean he can’t play in the NHL right now and maybe it would even be better for him to do so. BUT, it doesn’t make sense for the Hawks to add him to the roster right now because they already have the physically weakest team in the league and adding TT to the lineup would make it even weaker. It would be a different story if the Hawks had plenty of beef and needed a skill player added to the mix – then TT very well could fit the bill. But that isn’t the situation the Hawks are in right now – they have plenty of skill and not enough beef. If the Hawks were in a rebuilding stage then weakening the physicality of the team wouldn’t matter as much and then maybe a case could be made that TT’s development would be a higher priority than compiling points in the standings, but again, that isn’t the situation.

    Besides, one last point, and I’ll disclaim up front that I have no info to indicate this to be happening – but I have a concern that TT may feel entitled and I think that would be a problem for long term success for him. He needs to know that he isn’t promised anything and he needs to work hard at his craft like every other prospect. Again, I don’t know if he’s been pouting since being sent back and I haven’t seen the games but the box scores and a few comments I’ve read leads me to think TT is in a funk and it could be because he was sent back to Roackford. A lot of speculation and I hope it’s not true. Hopefully he has the right attitude about working hard – harder than everyone else – and gets stronger and better prepared to play in the NHL next season or the season after.

  29. I’d like to think I know hockey having played and actively followed the game in my 52 years on this planet. But for the life of me I do not see the fascination with or upside of Teuvo in the NHL. He’s not going to be much of a player in this league, and certainly isn’t a fit at all for the Quenneville style. He’s not ready, but more importantly where are the transferable skills?!? He dicks around in the middle of the ice and looks semi competent with the puck on his stick. So what?!? He’s very small and will never be more than a floater in this league. Hawks needed to dump him because I suspect the rest of rhe league see a classical overrated Euro player who will get eaten alive. And this kid is doing very little at AHL level either. I just don’t get the love affair for this guy.

  30. Bannerman!

    Hof, seems to be .458 more in cap space, they were a little off on Nordys caphit.
    ER, I read 33 is .800/2yrs

  31. RE T2: Great skater though smaller he is well balanced and avoids hits fairly well, tremendous vision and the hands to make the plays he sees, maybe not as good of a shot as a Tatar or Nyquist (who aren’t huge) but probably a better passer and positionally he is very sound in both ends of the ice.

    Probably a 50 point player or around there favoring helpers. Probably a guy you figure out how to maximize, not plug into a predetermined hole. 25 points in 39 AHL games isn’t terrible for his first year on the smaller ice so far.

    Otherwise he just needs to figure out how to be a pro. Nyquist was 4/9 in his first 40 games and is now a solid goal scorer soooooo these things aren’t necessarily instantaneous.

  32. RTF-actually think your grades are realistic and fair-(although can’t see Smith the lowest by himself-he shows up most nights at least-29 not so much.)
    Sorry, T.T. won’t be traded-whether he turns into Stan Mikita or Mikail Yakubov it ain’t happening. (Unless some GM loses his mind and forks over the second coming of JR.)

    B and B in contention for LPE Award-(Longest Post Ever)

  33. RTF- obviously you have followed the game for a number of years and do make some solid arguments, however, as a long time reader here, you can make some rash decisions/opinions. For example, you overvalued Oduya over the summer and maintained he is an integral part of one of the best shutdown pairings in the league (along with Hjalmarsson). I’m not living in the past, I know Leddy was the odd man out. I understand the problems of the cap. But you also undervalued Versteeg mightily. While I have always been a major supporter and stated over the summer his true role on this team, you claimed he will never be an NHL player again and the Hawks needed to trade him for a bag of pucks. Now, 2.2 cap hit is a bargain for him.

    This isn’t a knock on your judgment, you do make some good points (like backing Crawford when others throw him under the bus). You should probably just be a little more patient with an undersized, 21 year old finesse player, only now playing in America for the first full year.

  34. TT has the potential to be a star in this league for the reasons stated many times on this blog. Two things must happen before his potential is reached IMHO. 1. He must get physically stronger. He is 180 lbs and 5’11″and only 20 years old. Put him on a major strength training program and he could easily top out at 190 lbs. 2. He has been very tentative. He must get more aggressive with his playmaking and shoot more. Q needs to give him some rope and accept the mistakes that come with young players.

  35. Well Frolik, you make good points. I was not expecting Versteeg to amount to a anything. I also thought we could milk another quality sesson out of Oduya, who was very good the past two seasons. But Teuvo? Yeah. Explain how he ever fits into the Chicago style of play AND can handle playing Center in the ruggedized Western Conference? Let’s face it also, reports on Teuvo down in Rockford have been less than spectacular, and in fact AHL teams have been able to neutralize all this supposed magic to his game. I’m not a fan. I would love to be proved an idiot on this one of course, but don’t see that happening.

  36. Zberg is small but mighty… that little Russian is good… Giroux is good kind of… in terms of a quick transition offence and more passive\position play TT probs fits the Hawks “system” just fine…

  37. I think Darling can do just as good as Cro for a lot less. Proportionally speaking of course, the problem is that for 6 Million per year, I want to see some elite goalie action that Cro just cannot do.

  38. I saw TT play in Rockford over Valentines day. He didn’t look depressed or upset in any way shape or form. He was almost constantly on the ice and I think he had at least 2 points with Nordstrom on the first line both times. By my count anyway, I was a bit drunk… lol

  39. Lots of comments to comment on… About the Conn Smythe and not giving it to Cro, here are my thoughts…

    Crawford was not the MVP of the playoffs that year, sorry he wasn’t. The Hawks played half a season due to the strikes so they were well rested and absolutely ON FIRE during the regular season, it was pure ecstasy.

    And I know his numbers were good but what those numbers dont show is just as stated in many posts above, if the System is working well, the goalie is going to look better.

    Bottom line is that you could have replaced Crawford in those playoffs with just about anyone, Darling, Raanta, whoever, and the Hawks still would have won the cup.

    Now… Replace Kaner with anyone else out there, would they still have won?

    Probably not.

    Replace Toews with just anyone out there? Same result, failure. There were at least a few players I would put ahead of cro for that title.

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