3 games is rather excessive for a 1st time offender
I’m a bit surprised that it’s 3 games; was (hopeful) for 2 at the most. Unfortunately, Seabs was guilty of a bad hit.
What’s the opinion on how Q sets the pairings now? Does he place Brookbank with Leddy and slide Hammer & Rosy up or put Bb with Keith and keep the other pairings intact for continuity? I favor the latter approach.
The boys have their work cut out…
Ironic that I, with MY history, laid a pretty similar hit on Brent in the 2011 playoffs and didn’t get suspended!!
Funny too that after my hit on Hossa in 2012 my Yotes were on the power play for Blackhawk retaliation and yet the Blues went in penalized after the scrum in game 2.
I’m ok calling a penalty on the hit. I’m ok with a one game suspension. 3 is too many though. Fine him if you want, but don’t potentially end the guys season. 9 years with no prior offenses. Give the guy a break.
Morrison’s lines are probably right….
…watch the Lucic nutshot on Dekeyser, then explain why that (OBVIOUSLY intentional, whereas Seabrook was just “finishing a hit”/executing a “hockey play” – at least enough doubt to warrant discussion) was good for a fine and no suspension. Shanahan is no longer in charge, but the bs make-it-up-as-you-go-along decisions have not changed. (OK with you, JS?)
Can’t have it both ways boys and girls. Put aside the homerism. Seabrook’s hit was complete bullshit and egregious. Pisses me off that we have Nancy fans who scream when somebody cleanly drives one of our players into the boards, but when Seabrook pulls a fucking Raffi Torres then the conclusion is the NHL is out to screw the Hawks and the officiating is horseshit. Well to that I say bullshit. Seabrook’s stupidity is largely the reason we lost a game two that should have been in hand too.
And now Seabrook’s play shall result in St Louis gunning for our top players every time we play them for the next several years.
I’m sick about the Seabrook hit. And in actuality I am sure he is too. He’s too good of a professional who allowed a long season and the burnt outedness on skates cloud his better judgment.
I just spent 30-40 mins browsing around Canadian sites for perspective I thought might be somewhat neutral. Amazingly double digit numbers in games(up to 30!) were common, (but not a majority) as was the perception of the Hawks being a far more cheap, dirty team than StL. …I was genuinely shocked! To think with the long list of misconduct type penalties the Blues amass in a season compared to us? Fans are some of the most ill-informed, (and ill-mannered too!), folks on earth. Damn, won’t be doin that again for awhile
You can defend him, you can condemn him, or you can support him. Boys and girls, hockey at the pro level is so fast that you don’t have time to think or react.
Seabrook saw an opportunity to put a hard check on an opposing player. He didn’t have time to think who it was or how he was going to do it. He just saw an opposing player and tried to level him. It’s as simple as that.
If you’re the Hawks, you use this as a rallying point. Q and the coaching staff are doing exactly that in the locker room. Not “too bad for us” or “three games……oh my god we’re gonna get killed”. No, not this team.
One of two things will happen because of this…….(1) the Hawks rally around one of their great players and use this as a motivational tool, or (2) they feel sorry for themselves and go down without a fight. Only the next week will tell us what happens.
On another note, what this has done is awakened the referee’s eyes. It has also sent a message to the Blues which is, we can throw elbows, too. Don’t think the league hasn’t told the next referee crew to keep the games under control.
Believe me, the coaches are NOT dwelling on Seabrook or the hit. They ARE looking for a solution to his absence. The Hawks have not been out played in this series, so far. They have made some terrible mistakes and have paid dearly for them. Too many give aways and way too many stupid penalties.
All you people who have jumped on the Blackhawk “bandwagon” and are doubting them because they are down 0-2, start cheering for another team. I believe in this team. I believe that they will use this as a stepping stone and a motivational tool and take the next 2 games at home and then take the series. These guys thrive on adversity and I believe in them. The last time I looked, the Stanley Cup still has the Blackhawk names on it!!
And remember this…….last year, the blues were up 2-0 and lost to the Kings in 7. Don’t think that they are not aware of that.
penalty too steep. NHL decisions rather capricious. Seebrook has taken a number of hits like that in the past and in his nine years has never been a head hunter. I think it was just an attempted big hit gone awry. should have been one game but since a new director of discipline in place he has to make a statement. Unfortunately may be the play that seals the fate of the Hawks in this series. Hope not.
“wakey, wakey, backes”
Try as the media might, I am never cowing to feel bad that Blues42 got some in the form of an outbound Chicago train. Sorry. “Live by the sword, ….”
we got next
Agree with ya Seabs.
Reddsteel holds home ice and the series is theirs. I expected two, but with his history, I thought it might be less. New sheriff had to make a statement, just forgot to look at Seabs track record.
St. Louis will come out looking for pay back, (Reaves), Reddsteel will be ready.
Great post Seab’s…agree with you, as usual, RD…
This is the event that will cauterize the 2014 Blackhawks. Last year it was down but not quite out to the Wings, and we fought back. The circumstances surrounding the 1st 2 games this year have been fairly tragic and heartbreaking…but the Hawks are now justly, or unjustly, set against it and MUST fight back.
To those writing off the SC champions…WOW…how about our last game? Down 2 zip to the Blues, with one goal coming with 2 seconds left in the 1st period…and then we rattle off 3 straight goals to take the lead, on the road, having to deal with a ton of penalties??? Come on, if that isn’t the stuff of champions, then what is? The Seabrook hit, and the refs delayed interpretation of it, cost us that game. Short of that, we win…and should have won game one. Toews, Kane, Hossa, Keith and Sharp are going to rally the boys. Duncs will be a madman for the next week. He knows how much his actions in LA last year made things difficult for Seabrook and the rest of the team. Keith will be ready to “pay back” his mistake and help out his partner.
If Q (and at this point he has too) dumps Zus off the 2nd line Centre role and fields our best lineup, we are going to weather the Seabrook suspension and win this thing in 7. It won’t be easy, but this group of champions will do it! All we need to do now is BELIEVE and it will happen! And then we get ready for the 2nd round.
Does anyone remember how we won those 4 games in a row towards the end of the season without Toews and Kane? No Zus, and a workmanlike attitude that saw the Hawks controlling the puck and crashing the net. The goals that the Hawks scored during that streak were UGLY! Ben Smith, Jeremy Morin, Bryan Bickell…workmanlike performances, with an edge, that crashed the net and were rewarded for their efforts. The current Hawks lineup, short of Shaw (who provided the screen for Keith’s goal), is trying to be too cutesy. This is playoff hockey…and it should be Hawk’s playoff hockey, which means puck possession, lots of shots on goal, and traffic in front of the net. Step #1 for Q should be putting the line of Morin, Regin and Bickell back together. They played some of the best Hawk hockey all season long as a line late in the season.
Although I agree the move by 7 hurt his teammates to use the work Torres with his hit is
The more I see the hit the less I believe there should have been a major, let alone three games in the playoffs-which amounts to about 5 or 6 in the regular season. The timing sucked but he took out a player hard. Not much more. 2 minutes and a fine–
As some have mentioned-42 will have a better idea how it feels to be put into la-la land. As someone who has suffered from concussion syndrome I know it’s nothing to kid about-but he lives on that edge all the time. This time it didn’t go so well for him.
what about the ref not even calling it a penalty until they see backes struggling on the ice? at the instant of the hit they kept their arms down. then called it after seeing the damage it did.
i refuse to speculate about referee motivation….i mean in this case, not the non-call on the overtime delay of game that would’ve resulted in a hawks 5 on 3.
untouched pucks over the glass are judgement calls at best, so don’t go there.
but to imply that the league would like this series to go as long as possible?
or to even hint that the league wants to lift st. louis as a market?
that would be crazy. what motivation could anyone have, on behalf of the league, to give the blues a beneficial situation in this series?
this was a total major penalty. and a leave your feet hit, after a full boogaloo charge from center ice, by a player with seabrook’s checkered history should have garnered a double digit suspension.
dirty cheap shot hawks targeting a premier skill player who just wants to avoid contact.
The Gospel and World according to Rufus T. Firefly…”scream when somebody cleanly drives one of our players into the boards” – YOUR opinion. And, try to remember that is ALL it is.
“Nancy fans” – you got me/I’m at a loss…Drew? Reagan? Sinatra? The comic strip?
“Seabrook allowed a long season and the burnt outedness on skates cloud his better judgment.” – it’s “Official”. Or maybe by that point he was tired of the St.L bullshit – Reaves and Jackman questionable hits…Lapierre’s act. I agree that he’s probably sick about it – because of the suspension…if he escaped with NOTHING, not even a minor penalty like Brooks Oprick, who whether you admit it or not, did basically the same thing to Toews, I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t feel *too* bad about it. We’re talking about Backes – not Ryan O’Reilly, Loui Eriksson, or Martin St.Louis.
The Hawks subliminal wish for an early summer vacation – how can anybody question your wisdom? The Hawks should lose the next two so they can recharge/retool for next season – what’s the point of trying to win this year when you’re already begun engraving the names of Blues players on the Cup.
I want to know what Toewes’ was saying to 42 when he was trying to stand up and figure out what planet he was on. Thought his eye’s were going to pop out of his head. Ref’s were trying to keep toewes away from him.
I believe Reeves claimed a Hawks player was saying “wakey wakey”. I’d just skate around and pretend like I was confused about what happened and why he was unconscious. Get em with the old passive aggressive.
They should definitely be able to right the ship. Should be an interesting game tonight. Playoff hockey man. Crazy stuff.
Again I think the Seabrook suspension is appropriate especially since he hadn’t done anything dumb in the past or else it would probably be longer. However, if you’re going to give three to a non offender then let a previous offender (Lucic) walk with a 5k fine for racking some dude in the junk then there is major problem.
btw, my post was sarcasm.
to call this after the fact was bs.
it is very telling that this wasn’t called at the time it happened.
seabrook didn’t leave his feet, didn’t charge, and doesn’t have a history.
Only REAL issue is the Seabrook was playing GREAT. The fine and suspension was fair. The hit also just looks (and was) one of the more vicious hits i have ever seen. One Person COMMENTED on HAWKS PERCEPTION in Canada and all over the NHL they are seen as a “un-sportsman like team” Not thugish and goons but they do a lot of stick work a lot, a lot even with their skates ( watch kieth) so they also take advantage of the rules. Hockey’s blend of stick and skate skill with physical play makes it a great game. NHL teams do well with good talent and size and physical play vs. great talent and speed. The game does NOT REWARD the most skilled team very often, unlike other sports, goals go off 4 players, off a skate, back of the goalie head, kicked in your own net, power plays, short handed etc. Even is a shoot out the team like the Hawks Suck with all that talent. So i see why thugs and goons and Bruins style is easier to build around. Hawks need picture perfect timing and 110% effort to win, THUGS win over the 13 rounds, rope a dope!
Rufus, I’m with you. The hit was crap. I also feel he knew who it was. The problem was the point of contact and his arm/elbow up. The hit and follow through were not egregious, it was the start. As Hawks fans we can’t want Torres suspended and Orpik suspended and who ever else hits a Hawk (clean or not) and then not also know that our players will be suspended for similar offenses.
The no call to call to major…was bs.
I think what we have to watch for is what this will do to the Blues, not the Blackhawks. The Blues don’t need to change anything as it has been the Hawks imploding. But if they go back to their goonery, which could happen after their Captain got ran, then they will be disadvantaging themselves. It is easy to say the Hawks don’t need to change anything, but they need the players who will get the scrappy goals (Morin for Bollig).
Been traveling for Easter, but thought I’d add my 2 cents albeit a bit late:
1. I thought the Seabrook hit crossed the line as it was intent to hammer/injure and/or take out Backes. While I have no problem seeing that dirtbag wobbly, I thought it was a penalty and warranted a major. Bad timing, bad result as it essentially cost us the game (along with another softie by CC with 6 seconds to go), but hockey is a fast game and sometimes you get pumped and regret it. Not really #7’s style to cross that line and I think he knew it after the fact.
2. I had guessed he’d get 2 games, think 3 is one too much and a statement by the new czar.
3. Opponent fans calling Hawks “goons”, “dirty” etc is hilarious. This is how it feels to be #1 team in league with 2 cups in 4 years. Others do not like you for all the obvious reasons- we have what they want.
4. Will be very interesting to see what lines are paired by Q tonight at home, and how StL responds with their tough guys. Better keep your heads up boys..
5. Tonight we need to see heart of champions come alive at home.. Will be a physical game and is critical Hawks come out and play aggressive, fast hockey to re-set the tone.
I’m Canadian and a Hawks fan so not all Canadians think the Hawks are cheap. The problem is CBC sports is pathetic and bias and kept showing the Seabrook hit and Keith slashes but never showed any of the cheap shit the Blues do. It’s all perception by people watching highlights and not the whole game. Some have mentioned the Lucic spear and no suspension also there were several questionable hits in the Bruins- Wings game yesterday but no calls. Don’t even get me started on the pathetic job of officiating in the Montreal game last night. I’m not saying Seabrook didn’t hits player in a vulnerable position but it’s funny that he is the only one being suspended for it. The Bruins get away with this shit every game and the Blues ( especially Backes) are no angels. Lets go Hawks and win these next two athone
I posted over on the OT loss thread this morning and will repeat some of that here. If the Blackhawks play Hawk hockey this series should be level after Wednesday. If they resort to the cheap stuff that has defined Blues hockey for years it will be very tough to extend this series. I believe Q is too smart to be lured into the trap, Hitch was probably crowing about the way these first games have evolved. Attrition rate though will run higher for the Blues who began this series very beat up. Their physical game will eventually unglue them even if they beat the Hawks. I believe the way they play is flawed and keeps them from winning Championships. They just don’t have the horses to run the race into the stretch. That said they do have some very talented players whom I respect. Taresenko is highly skilled and will get even better. Schwartz brings a good game as does Sobotka(even though he is a chippy little bugger). Steen has had a good year but for me is overrated. How I must ask did that guy walk after dropping gloves and punching Seabrook, who basically was laughing at him? Back line guys I like except Jackman, whom I have despised for years. Re my other post, Jackman is on the karma list recently reduced by Backes. Bottom line is the Blues have too many jerks that are likely to eventually blow up the bus by the way they play. Want the list? Backes, Jackman, Ott, Lapierre, Morrow, and Reaves. Too many bums.
It just occurred to me that Saad bumping Lapierre into the net just before Versteeg shot cost us game one. If he doesn’t bump him we score and game is over as we would had a 2 goal lead! Lapierre wasn’t there because he was trying to block a shot. he got pushed.
Nerves starting to grow as I am a few hours away from heading down the UC! Win this one and we have a foot in the door. We have to have this game.
Lets Go Hawks!
Lets go now.
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