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Brouwer, Blues Eliminate Blackhawks

If imitation is the greatest form of flattery, the Blackhawks should feel incredibly complimented after losing a tremendous first round series to the St. Louis Blues.

We’ve said it the entire series, but these aren’t the Blues that have folded so many times in the past. Alex Pietrangelo led a fantastic, deep blue line. Brian Elliott had an incredible series between the pipes. And the Blues showed off strong center depth throughout the series – all leading to a stunning seven-game victory.

Jori Lehtera got St. Louis on the board 60 seconds in to give the Blues a big lead after the Blackhawks dominated the final 40 minutes of Game Six.

At 13:43 Colton Parayko – an emerging star for the Blues – ripped a missile past Corey Crawford to extend the lead to two. David Rundblad, playing again for some unknown reason, had a great view of the screen and the goal; he should have had a camera for the AP instead of a hockey stick in his hand given the angle he had of the goal.

The Blues carried the action in the first period, but Marian Hossa unloaded a shot through a defenseman and past Elliott to get the Hawks within one with 90 seconds left in the opening period.

Drama. Because playoff hockey.

The Blackhawks came out and dominated the second period – but only beat Elliott once. Andrew Shaw scored his fourth goal of the postseason on the Hawks’ only power play of the night to tie the game at 3:20 but the Blues were able to withstand the onslaught to head to their dressing room tied.

Through two periods, the Hawks held a 24-21 shot advantage.

Both teams had really good chances in the third period, but both goaltenders were outstanding.

It wasn’t until former Blackhawk Troy Brouwer made a great play to tip a puck past Crawford at 8:31 that either team was able to capitalize on their opportunities.

And that goal stood up as the game-winner.

For the first time in 25 years, St. Louis won a Game Seven on home ice.

Richard Panik led the Hawks with five hits, but he took a rough interference penalty with ten minutes left in regulation.

Brent Seabrook led the Hawks with five blocked shots in 25:08 but labored after getting lit up along the boards. He never went to the room for attention; there could have been some concussion concerns, but in a Game Seven it’s hard for a team doctor to get a player’s attention.

Seabrook had a great look, but hit both posts and the puck somehow stayed out.

It was one of those nights.

Duncan Keith led Chicago, skating 33:34 with four shots on net and two blocked shots. But he was minus-two in the first period while babysitting Rundblad, who was awful.

Jonathan Toews won 15 of 24 faceoffs in exactly 20 minutes. Chicago’s captain was also credited with one assist, one blocked shot, one hit and one takeaway. He put two shots on net but failed to score a goal in the series, a credit to the Blues’ defense as much as the rotating wings on his line throughout the seven games.

Andrew Ladd, acquired for a big price at the deadline, had a team-high six shots on net four hits in the loss. Dale Weise, also added at the deadline, skated 8:48 and didn’t dent the box score. Tomas Fleischmann, acquired with Weise, was a healthy scratch. Christian Ehrhoff also watched the final game of the season from the press box.

Crawford played spectacular hockey, keeping the game close against a number of fantastic chances for the Blues. He made 23 saves in the loss. Elliott, arguably the best player in the series, made 31 saves in the clinching victory.

The coming summer will be an interesting one in Chicago.

117 thoughts on “Brouwer, Blues Eliminate Blackhawks

  1. Tough loss in many ways. Too many turnovers, as has often been the case this series. The coming summer will be interesting indeed.
    Go Blackhawks!!!!

  2. This one hurts…all of those goals were off of turnovers. Nothing worse than beating yourself but this Blues team was a different animal than 2 year ago and they came out with a purpose but not closing out games in the future could cost this club if a couple breaks went the hawk’s way.

  3. Will the Hawks now draft ahead of all the teams that remain in the playoffs after the first round?

  4. As I said we are now Detroit…….going to be a long ten years ahead with some pain… but thanks boys for the Stanley Cups…Go Cubs!

  5. Gustafson skated right into a check and turned it over at the blue line leading to that low end cheapie goal by Brower. Pretty painful. I question the call on Panik. The puck was right there and Blues were hitting Hawks in the back all night. I have had enough of Eddie O bending way over backward to come off as neutral. Go national Eddie. I won’t be watching. In fact I doubt many people will be watch Dallas, St Louis and San Jose. The better team lost.

  6. The choice to play runblad and 52 in a game 7 strikes me as very un Q-like. He likes his veterans and I thought he would go with Rosi or Erhoff. Who would have thought that The biggest offseason loss was not Saad or sharp but Oduya.

    I can’t sleep.

  7. Demo said it. Lack of D depth. I encourage Stan to get on the horn and field calls on TT. A solid DMan is much more valuable to this team.

  8. Its after the fact, but why trade away Danault for two spare forwards that jointly didnt play or were on limited minutes? The coach and general mgr were/are obviously NOT on the same page. A fourth D man (and I wont even get into the Daley matter, thats a separate discussion) would have been utilized better.

    Desjardins played six plus mins and Weise eight; the failure of Q to consistently roll four lines — at minimun– contributed to the elimination of the Hawks. Point being, Danault Rasmussen and even Mashinter could have easily slotted into the limited minutes Q played the fourth line. This are simply the bottom line facts.

    On a consistently positive note, Crawford is a $ goalie regardless of tonight s outcome, outstanding save after outstanding save. The goaltender position is in good hands.

  9. Puck bounces simply did not go our way, that was the difference. Anisimov had the almost exact same chance that Brouwer had late in the third. Seabrook post to post and along the line defying the law of physics. That would have been atypical of Seabrook heroics in any of our playoff runs. Feel badly for Q as there was no way he was out coached but he sure lost in the doughnut eating contest to the other guy.

  10. These are two of the top teams in the league, it’s a shame that the central division is the “group of death”. The stats on the series are crazy close which is why small mistakes or a little extra puck luck are magnified. In hindsight I thought we needed to bury more of the 2nd period chances when we had them on their heels. Stick taps to Crow who was incredible.

  11. Gotta find a way to keep 65, lots of heart and soul!

    Man it sucks that this season is over!

  12. TT took a step backwards this year. Alligator arms. A boy in a mans world. Hans and Franz need to pump him up while the wizard of Oz needs to grant him some courage. Better yet ship him out.

    Still can’t sleep.

  13. Disappointed by the loss but really, not surprising I guess. Inexperience of some of the players and Q’s sometimes weird roster management plus fatigue helped the Hawks to bow out early. Oh, and the Blues clutching, pulling, tackling, high-sticking and interfering, too.
    So now what. They’ll get a summer of rest and see what the summer brings regarding who is back next year and who isn’t.

  14. I disagree with people on this board with the assertion that “St Louis is a great team” and the Hawks just came up a little short. They won’t win the Western Conference and regardless the Eastern Conference is better than any team in the west now that the Hawks are out. Despite Eddie O’s high praise and happiness for the call, it was a bad call on the Panik penalty. The Blues player didn’t hit the boards, the puck was right there as it came out right after the hit and Blues players were hitting Hawks in the back all night. Just ask Seabrook and Keith who were bombed in the back all night long. I can’t believe the once in a lifetime chance for the Hawks to repeat is done because of that cheapy garbage goal by low skilled Brower.

  15. The Blues and the Hawks are both very good teams. One of them had to lose. The winner in a close series like this was usually gets a couple more bounces go their way than the losing team and that was the case in this series. Kudos to the Blues for overcoming the Hawks and the demons from their past playoffs. They deserved to win.

    I’m proud of the Hawks for the way they played and if a bounce or two could have gone their way it probably would have been a different outcome. Ya can’t win them all. The longer offseason rest will do players like Toews and Hossa and Seabrook good. They will be back in the thick of it again next season and hopefully with a little more recuperation over the summer they will be even better.

  16. I give the guys an A for effort in this series. They played their hearts out. It was fun even though it ended early.

    I think the guy that needs to look in the mirror this year is Q. It seems to me his ego and stubbornness cost the team big time.

    How is it that Daley goes to Pittsburgh and looks like a perfect #4 D there? How does Erhoff not get a sniff of a chance under Q.

    He bounced through his bottom 4 D all year and in the end I don’t think he had two of them that weren’t petrified to make a mistake. They were not playing with confidence. Personally, I put that on the coach.

    He is a fantastic coach. 3 cups prove it. Did he do a good grooming some D. Nope.

    I feel for the warrior Seabrook. He looks slow and tired. I hope he can rebound or that contract extension will destroy this teams chances of getting back to a solid 6 D.

    We still have a good core. A few good years left in them. Let’s hope the salary cap keeps going up because we need it big time. Let’s hope for another miracle like Panarin but on D.

  17. Hawks will be worst next year. Ladd will be gone, Hossa older and young talent and draft picks have been traded away to win now and unfortunately they lost on that cheapy goal by low skilled Brower.

  18. No one will ever convince me there isn’t a similarity between the WWF and the NHL, and I believe we clearly saw the team the NHL preferred to win…win. Anytime Wes McCauley is involved in a Hawks game, officiating is not going to be favourable in any way for us. The “let them play” approach to the officiating was tailor made for the Blues, who got away with elbows to the head, high sticks to the face, sticks being held when we were pressing around their net, late hits…you name it. I felt as the game moved along the Blues took more and more liberties as they saw what they were being allowed to get away with.

    The biggest travesty/joke, though, was right after the Blues go-ahead goal in the third when the crowd is back into it, and to sustain the noise and the outcome the refs call a total B.S. interference on Panik IN THE NEUTRAL ZONE. Timing is everything and that one kept the crowd loud and prolonged the Blues momentum, shaving valuable time off the clock and off our season. It was a garbage call and a clear indication that the league wanted to see St. Louis move on so as to protect their dwindling and dumber than a stump fan base. Bettman’s NHL is more like predictable entertainment than sport when the officiating is that inconsistent, and if you think the NHL couldn’t have cared about the Blues languishing after another first round exit, you’re delusional. Were the refs the reason we lost? Not solely, but they get a big assist. Ignoring the rulebook was advantage Blues.

  19. Good analysis JT, right on all around.

    Montana: right on, it really sucks the season is over…..have less than zero interest in watching the West from here on in. Will tune into the East and SC Final.

    At least we racked up some hardware and the folks sure know who the Blackhawks are all across North America.

  20. On a positive note, panik, anisimov, Panarin, TVR, are players who will be good to excellent pieces going forward.
    Shaw led all players on either side in goals with Tarasenko even with missing a game. Heart and soul player needs to be signed.
    Agree that we are set in goal with Crow.

    Still can’t sleep.

  21. Espositive- fabulous analysis…brilliant. That is what happened all right, and the way it really is.

  22. Gotta keep Shaw and I feel strongly we should keep Panik. He is going to be very good.

    Stan needs to move Bickell — even if he has to include TT . I read somewhere that the first rounder for Ladd was conditional . Anyone know if that is so ?

    We need a #4 D in a bad way as well as acouple wingers. Stan better work his magic. Need to make a trade or two like Talon did to steal Sharp from Philly and Versteig from Boston.

    I look forward to all the anticipation and speculation about the roster over the summer. And this summer certainly cannot be as emotional and dark as last summer was.

  23. Totally agree with BLS. Q did not like Daley, so Stan got rid of him. Q did not like Scuderi so Stan got rid of him. Q did not like Ehrhoff so Q sat him. Q got tired of a Rosy or he wasn’t 100 %, so Q sat him.

    So the bottom 2 of Gusty and Rundblad were an adventure. I actually thought Rundblad played with more desperation in his game than previous games. He pushed people wide and used his body. The Parayko shot was a howitzer. Granted Rundblad seemed indecisive in front and then did nothing.

    The Gusty turnover was Campoli-esque. But really what’s he doing out there with 12 minutes left and the season on the line, seemingly on each shift ?

    Stan will have a full 2 months now to make decisions on the future roster. Years past, he had like 2 days or a week. Losing hurts. But the Hawks core is so competitive, they will be extremely hungry come 2016-2017

  24. Pete, ” I have had enough of Eddie O bending way over backward to come off as neutral.” — AMEN, BROTHER. He’s become a real asswipe.

    Iceman, “why trade away Danault for two spare forwards that jointly didn’t play or were on limited minutes?” — I think the moves Stan made were good, at the time. He went “All-in” to try for the back-to-back. Now, it’s easy to question or criticize.

    I won’t blame the officiating (lame) – they let shit go both ways. The Panik call seems bad because of the timing (in the context of “let shit go both ways”, ut it was interference). St.L capitalized on three mistakes. The Hawks hit two posts (the second hit both posts) and were victimized by “couldn’t elevate it”, “Hossa’s rebound skipped by Ladd who was in position in front”, etc. The Hawks fought back to game seven – a best of ONE – and the Blues won. It’s not like the Hawks didn’t show up or were bad.

    All season I defended Teravainen (especially directly in response to Rufus Snidely whoever), but his series forces me to reconsider. He has a world of skill nd is super responsible defensively, but he played timid. I wouldn’t just give him away (or just to move Bickell’s contract – they can buy him out in June), but I would take fair value return.

    As Tab said, (and, by the way, sir, than you for everything all season – it is appreciated!) “The coming summer will be an interesting one..” I hope that Stan’s judgment isn’t clouded by any “…but we came SO close” bullshit. Possibly bold moves would be better than a “wait and see”? He has three awful contracts (as I suggested, Bickell’s can be a buy-out) to deal with, and two are players well into their 30s…and he must Long-term Panarin at just about any cost – Good Luck!!

  25. >>> in addendum, van Riemsdyk will be better than Oduya in the nest year or two. It’s the 5th and 6th d-man (and possibly Seabrook’s contract) that need attention.

  26. The Hawks got their pocket kings cracked, it is frightening how many ways the puck hit the posts then out this series. The Blues are a different squad from previous years, a very talented team and they beat the best, so hats off to them. But so what? The Hawks got ousted in the first round twice after 2010. Oh yeah, then won 2 of 3 and was a stupid bounce away from playing in 3 consecutive finals. Are there holes to fill on this squad? Sure, but the core is still one the, if not the, best. This was an unbalanced year for the Hawks, that had a lot of challenges to be overcome. And they finally fell s little short. But as unsatisfying as this early oust was, this was a very entertaining squad. I had a blast watching a good team and can’t wait to see what happens next year. It’s really lazy playing the doom and gloom card and whining about players who were traded. Give it a rest. We are in the midst of a hockey Age of Enlightenment here in Chicago. It will come to an end on its own, you needn’t hurry it along in anticipation.

  27. This sucks… Well fought series by both teams though. It kinda feels better going out in a game 7 than going out 4-1. But remember the good things this season! Kane, what a champ he is, my MVP this season. Panarin could be even better next season. Seabs and Keith are still looking great and Crow had a fantastic season. I agree with the others, we lack depth in D. Stan need to work his magic and get us a top 4 defensive player. Looking forward to next season, when the cup is coming home to Chicago – AGAIN!
    Let’s go Hawks!

  28. Lack of depth on defense was this team’s ultimate undoing. TVR was asked to do too much, and Gustafsson simply isn’t good enough to play any role behind a 6/7 type role.

    Keith had an awful first period. It happens. Toews overall had a disappointing season and playoff series. Not sure if it was injury, fatigue or a less than good set of linemates for most the season until Ladd arrived.

    The one player traded that really hurts for me is Danault. Oh well.

    Long summer ahead. Entering a new era after 8 great seasons. Teuvo has to go in deference to finding a way to keep Shaw. A bunch of youngsters will need to step into roles, but thing is none of the projected candidates are anything beyond bit players or role players. Maybe Motte is the exception to that.

  29. Dickie I am also a big Teravainen defender. Unfortunately he had a bad playoffs, but in my opinion the Hawks need to stay with him as he gets older and improves. He represents a big part of the upside on the roster and hope for the future. Can someone please explain the Panik call to me. Was it the hit from behind, puck not in the area or being too close to the boards? Because the puck was there, the guy that was hit didn’t even hit the boards and the Blues hit from behind all night. Eddie O then comments that its basically an easy obvious and correct call as the Hawks season ticks down.

  30. …..Holy crap Batman !….you where absolutely right about the Blackhawks!…..Yes Robin ….after all they are only human….and humans make mistakes but they will rise again,…until then to the Batcave Robin ……….?.

  31. I have been critical of Q in the past but I believe this year he did the best he could with the players he had. He gave many young players a chance to see if they belong in the NHL. Most of them did not work out. Stan had a rough year. Most of his moves did no work out. He got fleeced in the Sharp trade and should have done whatever it took to resign Saad. As a general manager you just can’t let young talent like that get away. Scuderi, Rozy and Erhoff should have retired last year and should not have been signed. Daley was a mess defensively in Chicago. 12 and 25 did not contribute as expected. Ladd played fairly well but was not the answer at #1 LW. He does get high marks for getting future star Panarin and 15 was productive. The Hawks need to get younger, faster and more skilled. Stan needs to stay away from 30 something over the hill guys and rebuild with draft picks. We still have a great nucleus to build around.

  32. My hat is off to the Blues. They beat our Hawks. We gave it our best shot. I think that we are a victim of “youthful mistakes” not so much “lack of depth”. TVR and Gustafson will be better next year. You have to learn by your mistakes and both of these young D men were really in their first year of NHL hockey.

    We had guys skating on fumes, too. Seabrook, Hossa and Shaw are all hurt. Hossa has a bad leg. You don’t go from being helped off the ice to 100% in 3 weeks. He has a lingering leg injury, but he gave it all he had. Everyone of our veteran players are true “warriors”. These guys played hard and left it all on the ice.

    These extra 6 weeks of rest will go a long way next season. There is no shame in losing a game 7, especially after you were down 3-1. It wasn’t in the cards this year. It’s okay boys, there is no shame in losing. This team never quit.

    I am STILL a proud Hawk fan!!

  33. Tough game to lose in game 7 against the hated Blues. I thought thy had tied it late but the two goal posts were a killer. Im very proud of the Hawks and the way they fought back in this series. Enjoy your summer boys you have earned some well deserved rest.
    I agree next season the Hawks need to fix the D side of things. I hope they keep Panik and the rest of the rentals can go including Desjardins and Rosival

  34. The mathmeticians don’t understand the salary cap. There was no way to sign Saad, and in fact scored a coup by converting that “loss” into Anisimov, Dano and yes even money for Panarin.

  35. Well… the Hawks will have plenty of time to read some good books…. may I suggest:

    for:

    Q- “No time for Panik”.. cuz I like Mash-taters
    SB- ” How to lose 2 core players and a top prospect (for nothing) in 10 days”
    Bickell- ” How to go from Hero to Zero- in three years”
    Seabrook- “If you thought Bickell’s Contract was bad… You Ain’t seen nothin”

    How can Hawks afford Shaw??? A big name/Contract probably needs to be moved…. that is why I suggested Crow or Seabs last year or two… Well- after that series… Crow IS the only One left (that any team might want)

    SB needs to pull another “Panarin” out of his ass… Caggiula? Vesey?? Euro???

    Motte/Schmaltz will be very good players… I love TT… but agree here with thought … if A top D prospect is available… Hawks need that more with Motte/Schmaltz near ready to play in NHL… Caggiula will be a beast!!! Heart/IQ/Speed!!!

  36. It sucks that the Hawks season had to end early but in this series, the Blues had something the Hawks didn’t and that was excellent defensive support.

    They did a great job of covering the Hawks players who didn’t have the puck.

    Oh well, you can’t win them all and there’s next year to look forward too.

  37. I agree with Reg that TVR and Gustafson will continue to improve. They should be solid with more experience. Gustafson was an impressive +11 with only 4PM in 41 games this year. They will be in their prime soon.

    I criticized Q in an earlier post but it is really based on speculation with how he is with younger players. Does anyone know what he is like behind closed doors? Does he get the most out of some of these fringe players or screw up their confidence?

    After some sleep, the loss and the double posts still hurts. However, overall very proud of the team from top to bottom. A great organization that I hope can keep being a contender for at least a few more years.

  38. Reminds me a bit of 2011, after the Cup year of 2010. Blackhawks down 3-0 vs. Vancouver (oh how I hated them), have one of the greatest games ever in game 6 with Ben Smith scoring a double OT goal at Chicago to force Game 7, and then lose game 7 in OT at Vancouver.
    (That was the Campoli game people are mentioning …….. I will state again that that particular turnover was not that egregious ……. Campoli fired the puck up high along the glass, hard, and that scumbag Burrows pulled it out of the air above his head, dropped it down, rushed Crawford and scored.)
    That next year the Blackhawks ended up losing to Mike Smith and Phoenix in the playoffs. But they retooled, and remained the team we love to this day.
    There’s still good hockey ahead, ladies and gents. I’m proud to be a Blackhawks fan. Heal up Boys. You’ve given us fans a great ride and we should be appreciative.

    Yours truly,
    The idiot who said you’d lose to the Blues in 5

  39. The Panik hit was a penalty for hitting the guy on the numbers. We can blame the officiating all we want, but it is nothing we haven’t overcome in the last 7-8 years. The bottom line is that the Hawks did not bring the energy in this game that they did in the 6th game. They weren’t attacking the net. Their intensity was not there.

    I do question Q’s move on not going with the quasi top four dmen in the last period. I do not feel TVR is a top 4. Oh how I pine for Stephen Johns. However, all that being said, I believe Seabrook has been injured for several games now and Q had no choice. The lack of defense depth was obvious the last two years. That’s on Bowman. You can’t neutralize your two best dmen, 4 & 7, by having them babysitting players that should not even be in the NHL, 5 & 43. I still believe 52 is an NHL dman, but is not being developed properly. Rosy shouldn’t have been resigned…damn salary cap.

    I also question the line blending after such a great effort in game 6. Why not keep the exact same lines going? I believe Q was doing that to create match up problems for Hitch. I do believe Q’s approach with younger players is not productive from a development standpoint and his doghouse approach with many players has been detrimentally limiting our successes. No qualifier on that last comment.

    Moving forward, I do not see the Hawks getting out of the downward salary cap spiral unless they make some earth shattering moves by breaking up the core. Otherwise they will be mired in this annual talent dilution dispensing salary and going with patchwork fixes. The team is being weakened because of it; exactly what the NHL desires. Unfortunately, the two 10.5 million dollar contracts are an anchor on this team’s future. We need to get younger, faster, better at the dot, and better on D. I am talking about moving 7, 50, and/or 88 (oh how I hate saying this) in surprising major deals that result in a restocking of high draft picks, an infusion of youth/speed, and salary cap flexibility moving forward. If we don’t, we will end up being Detroit; just happy to make the playoffs. We want the cup.

    Go Hawks!!! Thanks for another year of thrills.

  40. It is obvious that defensive lapses hurt more than anything. IMO, Q uncharacteristically left the defense to the young guys and chose not to play Rosy or Ernhoff…….but that is his call.

    The extra 6 weeks rest will help next season…..except that the Worlds will cut the rest a little short. I look forward to see how SB manages the Cap this summer.

    For some odd reason I would like to see Nashville win the Cup

  41. Rest up boys. You’ve deserved it!

    To (most) everyone here, was a nice season. Time for the second season to begin.

  42. This will be the year where the Washington Capitals, Trotz and Ovechkin finally hoist a Cup. There is no team remaining in the East that can beat them. And they will slice thru the Western Conference finalists like a hot knife thru butter.

  43. Oh yeah, I am officially off TT’s bandwagon. Alligator arms has no courage and is much too timid to be an NHL player. His fear totally neutralizes his fantastic play making abilities. After a year and a half and two playoffs, I don’t see him being a top six player that is instrumental in helping us to another cup. Unfortunately, I believe other teams already know of his lack of courage thus possibly limiting his return value.

  44. I am pulling for the Blackhawks South (the Stars) to win the cup for Sharpie, Oduya, Johns, and Niemi.

  45. By the way, it is amazing to me with how many hits the Blues had and how tightly they checked in their own zone that there were not more penalties.

    I don’t blame the refs for that. Kudos to the Blues for being able to be that disciplined playing that style of hockey.

  46. -Teuvo Teravainen OUT for a top 3-4 D-Men
    -Bryan Bickell 4M $ OUT (please)
    -David Rundblad OUT send back to EURO for the rest of his career
    -Andrew Shaw for 3.5M $ Maximum or see ya!!!
    -finally bring Ville Pokka up!

  47. BLS & Nigrelli agree re Q and D-men. Wes McCauley is generally a bad sign, good call whoever posted that initially.

    St Louis will NOT win the Stanley Cup. There is no way they re going to win three more series. Zero chance.

  48. And so it goes. A noble effort last night, but it fell short for clear reasons. The Hawks giveaways in the d zone during the 1st period were presents to the Blues who happily cashed in. It was a bad start in general for this Hawks team that really seemed to have gained some momentum from the two previous emotional wins. To spot a team a 2 goal lead out of the gate is a deep hole to climb out of. Hoss goal late 1st was huge and there was life. The Hossa goal factor where they had not lost in playoffs when he had scored suggested some pants soiling in St Louis was taking place. More so when Shaw got the “Backes bounce” goal in the 2nd.

    Alas, this was as good as it would get. Crow was once again huge and while the Blues 2nd goal looked a shade soft, Corey kept em in this game as he did the entire series. In fact Crow was the best player for the Hawks in this round imo.

    Hawks d men gave away pucks all night. That was the difference. The Gus turnover in the neutral zone with Hawks going for the breakout leading to the Brouwer goal, had “ruh roh” written all over it. And Brouwer still almost muffed it!

    The dreaded double poster by Seabs that like Ladds defied logic by not going in.

    In the end, the Blues narrowly found a way through. Series was a coin flip coming in imo. No shame to lose a series like this, even though it was to the hated Blues and their self loathing fans. For the Blues fans this was their Stanley Cup.

    Lets Go Hawks!

  49. we’ll dive into the future at a later time, but in light of the various assessments of needs for the roster… if we use the lines at the end of the series:

    ______ – Toews – Kane
    Panarin – Anisimov – Teravainen
    [Panik] – Kruger – Hossa
    Desjardins – [Rasmussen] – _______

    Shaw, Panik & Rasmussen are all RFAs this summer. Rasmussen is an interesting possibility as a 4C, and I think – even w/ the dumb 3rd period penalty – we like what we saw from Panik in the postseason. Both should be affordable to keep. Shaw is going to be damn near impossible to afford w/ Panarin’s bonuses kicking in and the overwhelming desire that the Blackhawks not run rookie defensemen out there on a nightly basis.

    Looking inside the organization, one has to believe Hartman and Motte are on the short list for the available forward openings. Motte is a terrific player who can play the LW, which the Hawks desperately need on the NHL roster. He led Michigan in blocked shots as well, something Q obviously loves. I wouldn’t be shocked if he got a crack at a spot in camp.

    If Quenneville distributes the talent across three lines the way he did in the postseason right away next year (meaning one of Kane, Panarin & Hossa on the top 3 lines) the Hawks are a better team imo.

  50. Teuvo will be done, either in a package with Bickell to lose that cap hit or by himself in a deal for a defenseman. He is a lousy fit in Chicago and the antithesis of a Q player. 90% chance he is gone. Good riddance.

    Bringing Shaw back is paramount.

    2016-17 will be a season of transition for the simple reason that there will be a lot of holes and uncertainties on this roster. Still a playoff team, but… Bowman has surprised us before and I still won’t be shocked if he packages Panarin right now before surely losing him after next season. He’s the one player with distinct trade value right now.

  51. It was as close as 7’s shot pinging off both goalposts and rolling along the goal line. Fractions of an inch. They could have played this series for 100 games and it probably is still that close.

    Rough finish to the year but man does this team battle. Game 6 will always be a very, very fond memory.

    Thanks as always to Tab for being the voice of reason and providing excellent analysis and a place for catharsis.

  52. It’ll be a long offseason. Bummer for fans, bit good for our guy who’ve had only short breaks the last 6 years.

    Meanwhile I read this blog EVERY DAY but post only rarely- and I just want to say a HUGE THANK YOU to TAB for another great season of best-in-class, no bullshit hockey journalism. You’re the best there is Tab, and you’ve created a vibrant / passionate community here. Very well done!

  53. I had briefly mentioned in the last thread that this playoff sure seems like a changing of the guard. A further look shows it truely is that.
    Outside of the Penguins there isnt alot teams remaining that has Any recent success or in some cases any. The Blues, Capitals, and Sharks and Preds(if the move on) have never captured a cup. The Stars, Ducks, & Lighting havent done much since late 90s. Then you have the Islanders and their 4 cups who won a series for the 1st since 93. Not to mention zero Canadian teams have made the dance. Should be an interesting next two rounds.

  54. Chelsea

    Pretty sure the FIRST rounder in the Ladd deal is a for sure. The THIRD in 2018 was conditional on the Hawks winning the cup.

  55. For those that complain that Q doesn’t properly develop young players can you please let us know which other coach you would prefer? Q has always said that he is in the “winning business” and strongly implying that most development needs to be in the minors. If you get a chance you need to grab it and not look back (Shaw, Saad, Panarin,TVR, etc.). If you struggle with the chance (Dano, Morin, etc.) Q is not the guy that will slowly try and bring you along. If you saw his press conference last night you saw as competitive a coach as exists – he looked like his heart was ripped out and he clearly saw no moral victories in the comeback. He is as good as there is in the league. Next year Pokka and others will get their chance but don’t expect a long period to develop. SB has yet another huge challenge to sign Panarin and Shaw while finding a serviceable depth d-man.

  56. Motte- should have a real shot at replacing Shaw…
    4 g’s and 3 a’s in 1st 8 AHL games

    will Schmaltz sign???

    The real prize is Caggiula!!! I think the kid could be the next Tyler Johnson!!!

    And speaking of Bolts… A wise man here once suggested Kucherov would be a better/more important “keep” versus Stamkos for the soon to be Cap Issue Bolts!!!

  57. Ya I’m not sold on Washington either as they struggled at times with Philly and the Penguins easily beat NYR. The Caps will have their hands full. I hope the Blues have to play the Sharks. That will be a great series.

    I agree that either Motte or Schmaultz will have to make the Hawks next year and should be given very opportunity. Fabbri was given that chance and was one of the Blues best forwards

  58. Mary Clarke via SBNation. Classless crap. Last night was the Blues Cup. I’m all in for Hawks South with Dallas.

    Lets Go Hawks!

  59. MS…nobody said to replace Q. However, he has to get the most out of the players he has. I’m not sure he did that this year.

    As we all know, different players respond to different types of coaching and coaches need to adust. Normally, Q probably does.

    As I said, it is just speculation on my part but I wonder if his ego and stubbornness didn’t get the better of him this year.

    As an example, unless they had a replacement for Daley, he should have still been in Chicago. His speed would have helped a lot. He did get off to a rough start but was coming on even before the trade.

    Would I fire Q? Of couse not. Do I hope he evaluates himself this off season? Sure do! Great coach! Great team! Time for reflection.

  60. Alas, as has been said, it just wasn’t in the cards for us this year. But so much to be proud of. Our core is far from done; Crow has finally silenced his detractors (and any remaining ones are now wrong); still the best organization from the top of the front office down to beer vendors in the whole damn league; and a career year to remember for Patrick Kane.

    Thanks to all of you for great posts all year, always made my daily check-in with the Hawks a pleasure. On to the summer.

  61. 1st— so many easy ways to Keep Oduya
    2nd— Daley was never given chance by Q
    3rd— Pokka is not the answer

    Question- does Q even get consulted on the above??? watch tapes of Daley w/ SB…
    and asked… SB- Q do you think you can make Daley into a player/asset??? saves us $400k and He is a little younger than Oduya…

    OR
    Q and SB just operate in two separate worlds… SB- I have to manage cap/contracts/rosters…. Q- my job is to manage the good/bad/ugly in all situations… as best as I see fit… what ever is handed to me… so I don’t really care who or what SB gives me– my Job is to play the hand I am dealt in the way I see works best… NOT evaluate players prior to them being here…

    I would love to know exactly How much input Q puts into a move like the above prior to SB deciding on Daley over Oduya… and How much Q really watches tape on Daley… does he just base his view on the 5 or 6 head-to head games… and say ” I like him”… or doe Q watch hours of tapes, and say… I can make him a top defender in the league???

    I guess- I just want to know who is more to blame??? Q or SB on that deal… for $450K… and we signed Rbad for $1M???

    BIG LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  62. As far as the Hawks personal, they will need to find at least 1 top line winger to play with Toews, not a guy long in the tooth but a legit piece moving forward. Saad still needs to be replaced and Hossa is probably best suited on the 3rd line from here on out. So either wing will needed. If that means moving a young player like Tuevo, TVR or Gus then it must be done. None have shown they are top 6 or top 4 NHL talent.
    They also need to find another stud top 4 dman. The Blues won because the emergence of Colton Pop now gives them 4 legit defenseman, and that talent with the Hawks lack of top forwards and we all saw the results, Toews, Kane quieted and season over!

  63. Hate to say it but, #19 & #88 need to refund some of their salary as IMO they sure did not earn it this post season. If they will be so kind & ” DO THE RIGHT THING ” the HAWKS will be able to sign #65. Seeing that #65 had more goals ( IN THE PLAYOFFS ) than #19 & #88 combined & brought it each & every game I think that would be fair.

  64. Lots of fingers to point at lots of different people, but what good does it do? It’s a pretty important time for this team right now. The ego of a champion is as fragile as it is strong, and I hope Stan and Co. take a long, honest look at this team and realize that there isn’t a whole lot wrong here. We need defense. When we have it, we win. When we don’t, we lose. Shore that up (Pokka and Forsling deserve a long look next year, perhaps Dahlstrom, too) and we’re back in business. In the meantime, buy out Bickell, sign Shaw and Panarin, and take the time to get some well deserved rest.

  65. Read an earlier post by Booman asking about the Hawk’s draft position . It doesn’t matter .No 1st round ( Ladd trade ) and no 2nd round ( Tomonen and a rocking chair trade ). Rounds 3 thru 7 are the picks that the Hawks still have. Bowman will probably use them to draft small Swedish or Finnish d man who can skate and move the puck.Perhaps they can do this because the got more Time and Space? Time because nobody is going to Stencil them to the boards or introduce themselves on the middle of the ice with extrem prejudice and Space because the rinks are bigger .The only Swedish d man that still has VIKING blood running thru his veins is #4. Viking God of Blocked Shots.. Next season the only d man that won’t be back are Rozsival and Ehrhoff. Rundblad will be back.His ass cheeks gotta be imprinted on the chair he sits in the press box .

  66. What Bowman and Quenneville have accomplished over the past 8 years and in the salary cap era is nothing short of outstanding. The critics will come out of the woodwork now to rip them both. Bowman will be accused of not drafting the next Toews or Kane…with little regard to the fact of draft position, etc. Quennevillle will be accused of an anti young player bias and not transforming marginal at best talents in guys like can Riemsdyk or Teravinen into the next Keith or Hossa. Get used to this crap, because the idiots will rip this team to pieces here on out and ignore 3 Cups in 6 years in the cap era. Can’t fix stupid. Good news is some of the bandwagoners will eventually tire out on ripping things and fade back into the hole they came from.

    I’m not a betting man, but I would put big money on the Caps winning the Cup. No team left can compete with them in all phases for 3 periods. Not even close. They will dispose of Dallas, San Jose or St Louis easily. And I’m not a Washington fan and could care less if they win. But this year they will finally hoist that Cup.

  67. CI is best hockey blog going, thanks Tab. Big Boys played big. Q knows as well as anyone what it takes to win. In MHO Keith and Seabrook should ask for double salaries. Couldn’t squeak through again with four defense men. Anisimov was a good trade for Saad. Lots of moving pieces on this year’s team that SB and Q put together very well. Played a much improved Blues team dead even. In a perfect world: add two more defensmen and roll four lines. Shame on Runblad for taking penalty in crucil game, kind of stuff Morin did.

  68. Kinda thought there would be lots of posts but,.,.please read this.
    The right team won the game but the wrong team won the series.
    Was that Laural and Hardy on the ice for the 3rd Blues goal or what,.,.talk about skating in quick sand, if it could go wrong it did. Hawks gotta keep Shaw, top playoff performance again. ,.,.Got our hands full for the up coming season,.,.Have a good summer boys,.,.Thanks Tabber for your topics and discussions ,.,.Cheers 10 – 4
    Hawkhead out.

  69. “1st – so many easy ways to keep Oduya” including…. personally writing a check to the NHL that was large enough that the cap went up $4M?
    “2nd – Daley was never given a chance by Q” – odd. he averaged 17:30 in 11 games in October and a whopping 2 assists and minus-2 rating.

    I find it annually hilarious that the “Q & Bowman don’t agree/get along/talk to each other” narrative surfaces, even after 3 Cups in 6 years in the salary cap era.

  70. BLS spot on again.

    No one is saying Q and Bowman dont get along, its like even the best of marriages, everyday is not a bowl of cherries. Why secure certain specific personnel in trades and then not utilize them? I love Q too, but BLS is correct and 1961 has echoed these thoughts before — Q (and Bowman as well) is not immune to criticism.

    C’est la vie.

  71. Tab- oddly Daley averaged many more minutes and overall better stats for a “Worse” team… Oddly- the Pens played better w/ Daley than w/o

    Hilarious that Hawks couldn’t find $450k by simply trading/waiving/or not Signing Rbad (who happened to play whole year in Euro– that IS hilarious!!!)- yea- I am totally crazy/ass for thinking that Keeping 27 was imaginable!!!

    keeping Leddy- NOT doable unless other BIG $$$ moved… Keeping 27 was completely doable!!!

    Just face it… Daley was supposed to be Younger/cheaper/better replacement for 27… he wasn’t… at least not for Q/Hawks… was it just a “dry/bad” spell for Daley??? Was it the “system”??? was it Q??? I don’t know- But I am sure you know the answer!

    Lastly- how many of Core guys are SB’s picks???
    Panarin- signed cuz he wants to play w/ Best … Core… winners

  72. Scary how much I agree with Snidely’s last post. Caps will be tough with their depth and Holtby in net. The Blues were helped immensely by hitting the jackpot with Pareyko (free agent) and Fabbri. Even a year ago no one would have predicted their contributions. Kind of reminds me of Saad and Shaw. These unanticipated contributions are huge for teams trying to get to the top level. I’m curious whether the Hawks were ever in contention to sign Pareyko? The kid sure looks to have a very bright future.

  73. Phil – wow, I clicked on the link. That is one high level of douchebaggery from Blues fans. No surprise.

    MS – agree about Colton Parayko and Fabbri. Both had a huge impact on this series and on the way the Blues played all year. Parayko’s stick check against Panik when it looked like he was ready to turn the corner and get a great chance was an excellent play. If only Svedberg would use his size and reach the same way. I guess it would also help is Sveddy could skate.

  74. Snidely Whiplash: I was one of those who criticized Q and Bowman.Yes I’m and IDIOT. That’s alright, Its a MAN thing . Just ask any WOMAN. All men are IDIOTS. Tab you forgot #3 Q does not play most of the guys Bowmam traded for.Wall:The book you recommended for SB, is a good book. Two chapters I liked were How I fleeced the Flyers out of Timonen and Brad Richards,The second line center Kane wanted.

  75. I have to also chime in on how happy I am with the way this team lost. So proud of our boys! Six cups in seven years really says a lot about their determination. They seriously could not have lost in a better fashion. I agree with whiplash, you can just back the Honda Pilot up and drop the cup in DC now. Unbeatable pros who have all proven to be excellent playoff performers time and time again. Again gang, very nice loss and go Caps.

  76. Tab,

    11 games in a new system is clearly not enough time to assess a player, regardless of ice time. If there is something other than his play on the ice i.e. he asked for a trade, ie relationship with Q ….than I accept shipping to him Pittsburgh. What’s done is done. Now we need to find a#4 Dman.

  77. They had an interesting talk today on one of the radio spots on spoiled fan bases-interesting-
    beautiful run, with perhaps a year or two left? If they can make a few smart moves–

    I guess I’m one of few still defending TT–and yes he had a poor 2nd playoffs-
    so he’s a 170 lb’er who lacks courage–well not everyone has the mentality of Shaw (who I love). If, and only if there is someone in the organization to replace him go ahead but this kid will be a 190 pound top 3 or 4 forward with someone in two years. You don’t teach what he has and he’s part of the next wave–
    I worry about Seabrook and his brain-he has been concussed many times and he’s a warrior but I hope he knows when to walk away. Yes they need another top 4/5 defenseman–but how? (Oh yah-TT)

  78. The Hawks just played and lost a seven game series where every game was decided by one goal except one and they won that one by three. This is the reason you have to come to play every game in the regular season, home ice meant the outcome of this series. Lets take a step back and remember did we really think this team was good enough to win this year? But what they did give us was a chance to watch seven of the most exciting hockey games played this year. Win or lose I still love my Hawks an Snidley, Teuvo is still only 21.

  79. After eight seasons of great competitiveness that results in 3 Stanley Cups, the Hawks have now it an inflection point. The fact is the overall talent level on this roster is no longer what it was or, frankly speaking, good enough. That’s a point that the critics of Bowman and Quenneville can’t understand. In their view it should be simple matter of bringing in youngsters (the majority of which have meaningful skill limitations of some for or another) and POOF, they automatically become integral performers well capable of “replacing” folks like Saad, Sharp, Bolland, Campbell, Oduya, Ladd, Brouwer, Buff, etc. Well, it no longer can work that way. You can’t turn 4th line material or 5/6 defensemen types into something they are not…no, the best you can hope is that some of these guys become good supportive pieces and role players. But when a roster becomes over-weighted with players of limited skills and who are role players, then that’s when the winning magic and dominance starts to erode. The current “core” of Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson, Crawford, Kane, Toews, Panarin, Anisimov is certainly very impressive. But no longer good enough all by itself where you can surround them with role players and warm bodies and expect it to work in terms of Cup contention. Why no Hossa in my definition of the current “core”? Well, because we have seen the sad decline of Hossa on the ice. On a truly good team, he no longer is a guy who can dress 82 games and play top 2 line minutes. He’s one of the all-time greats and going into the Hall of Fame, but he is in decline. And his role will have to adjust accordingly. Kruger isn’t in the “core” either, because he is simply a very good defensive forward and PK specialist. But he offers nothing on offense and falls into that “limited” category. Again, glad he is on the Hawks. Shaw isn’t in the “core” but not from lack of heart and of importance to this team. He MUST be retained, and I’m sure Bowman will move heaven and earth to make that happen somehow. Teuvo is horribly overrated, and I’m so incredibly sick of the rationalizations made on this guy…he did NOT have a good season and was a liability in the St. Louis series. If you want to be infatuated with his innate hockey skills, then great. But he doesn’t fit in Chicago and never will. Some players don’t fit systems, and Teuvo is the definition of that.

    I don’t know what Bowman can do this summer. Other than get very real and very serious about the rebuilding on the fly that can be the only “hope” of maintaining Cup competitiveness for a little while longer. To me, that means biting the bullet know and trading Panarin to the highest bidder. He stands no chance of being re-signed after next season because of the cap. Everybody knows that So bite the bullet know and trade Panarin for a couple of young premium pieces that can be part of the new foundation that goes with the current core. The alternative isn’t appealing to me. Nor is competing by our fingernails for a final playoff spot each season. Which to me is the stark reality in front of us. We just finished the greatest 8 year stretch in franchise history. I’d like to see if this inflection point can be turned into another very good chapter. Not a return to the dark ages in 3 years. Bowman will have to be smart, strategic, bold and lucky.

  80. MS, Gary B., and Rufus, er Snidley Whip, are correct about the Caps. And, no, I don’t give a rats ass for that club with the exception of Barry Trotz, who is my personal pick for Chicago if Q were ever to be hit by a bus.
    There really are two teams absolutely desperate to shed the choke collar this year- St. Louis and Washington. In the late 1960’s the future looked bright for the Blues as far as the new Western Div expansion teams went: two trips to the Stanley Cup finals, some old stars and some new, a growing and loyal fan base. Who would have foretold nearly half a century of mediocrity? They are the only “next six” team to never win the Cup (Oakland Seals excluded – defunct; and the North Stars got theirs in Dallas). They are the longest tenured franchise to never have won the Cup. In the last 49 years, only the hapless Maple Leafs are more futile, but they have their former glory years.
    And Washington…scheeess. It’s been almost easier being a Cubs fan. I go with the others and predict the Capitals to win. Getting his name, finally, on the Holy Grail is the deal-breaker now for Ovechkin between being just a superstar who never won it all and having the Champion moniker. They can never take that away from you.
    As for us, we’ll be back, this run ain’t over.

  81. If we have to trade 29 cap hit/prospect to keep 65 then that’s what to do. We will make it work. Keep finetuning roster with tweaks.

    I would not trade 86, hes still young/going to be really good and have chemistry with other players we donot have now, Motte, Schmaltz or Caggiula.

  82. To correct my post – Parayko was a 3rd round pick not an undrafted free agent. He was taken seven selections after the Hawks took Chris Calnan.

  83. Brian Campbell for a year or 2. He may take less. I don’t know what to think of Pokka or Gustafsson. Or even TVR for that matter. TVR is still too inconsistent. Gustafson well last night is still fresh. Svedberg does nothing for me. Rundblad can produce, but if he’s on the defensive side of the red line close your eyes.

    Nill recently said the only way they trade for Sharp is if John’s is part of the deal.

    Say the Hawks sign Campbell. Top 4 is set. 57,52,Svedberg,and Pokka…oh yeah Rundblad too as a bottom pair. At least one of those 4 you assume will be traded. In my eyes the only way to unload Bickell is by sweetening the deal with Shaw’s rights and one of those defenseman.

    Possible options for a trade could be…JVR. With term left I’m not sure why his name is thrown around so much.

    Taylor Hall. Number 1 choice. But I don’t think the Hawks have enough to give up to make that work.

    Jeff Skinner- maybe before his resurgence.

    Mike Hoffman- he and Dave Cameron didn’t get along. Cameron has been fired. But they didn’t get along because Hoffman’s defense is absent.

    Drouin- would take Teuvo plus to make it work. Small and defense is a liability… Not to mention kind of a diva.

    If you can dump Bickell with Shaw. You might be able to sign a guy like Perron, Backes,or Jamie Mcginn.

    All hop is not lost. They need to fill 3-5 holes. 1 and 3 LW. 4d. 4c. All hope is not lost.

  84. Everyone throwing Gustafson.under the bus. Shouldn’t have Fabbri been called for interference ?????

  85. Think I’ll go with Tampa Bay to win the whole shabang ..after all they were forged by the Champions and have some semblance as to what it takes.

    Of course they will have 28 people coming out in 106 degree”s and pouring rain for the parade. Fewer still will actually care.

  86. Thank goodness the Blackhawks don’t have a situation like Detroit, where Datsyuk is probably headed to the KHL, and leaving a whopping 7.25 Million cap hit on the Red Wings. Geez that is brutal!

    With the ability to trade Bickell seemingly impossible (without giving up too much else), I wonder what the possibility is of the Blackhawks just buying him out? I think it extends their cap hit on him another year past next year. However, I think that hit is reduced to something like 1.5 million for each of those years. That gives extra money to work with this coming year (I believe 3 million more this coming year, the way it all works out). The poor guy obviously doesn’t have a future with the big team, and if no one will trade for him it could be an option.

    I would think this would possibly be even more appealing if the team were to decide to move TT in the offseason. One argument I saw awhile back is that buying Bickell out might hurt the Blackhawks’ chance of keeping Panarin or TT after 16-17. If TT is already moved, and Bickell’s cap hit is reduced, perhaps that helps in an effort to keep Panarin?

    Any ideas from you gents or ladies more versed on cap issues than myself would be appreciated regarding this.
    Go Blackhawks!!!!

  87. Just read an article today about Bickell. Buying him out will leave the Hawks with a 1.5 million dollar cap hit. At least that was the number I saw. There are several young and appealing wings that are RFA; Kreider, Hoffman and Jaden Swartz are all players it be interested. Unfortunetly the Hawks likely lack the cap room to be big players on any of them.

  88. Crawford was the backbone of the team the entire season; he is even better in the playoffs. The guy has balls, he is a $ goalie, he has proven it consistently since he came on the scene after Cup I. He gets no respect league-wide, all we read about is Price, Ludquist etc — guys that haven’t even sniffed Stanley Cup. Give me a break.

    Some pundits suggest trading Crawford for cap space relief; that would be a fatal, misguided, ignorant and irreversible blunder. He gave them a fighting chance in this series. He continues to improve every season. It would be goalie roulette and franchise destructing to some degree trading him.

    Andrew Shaw is a nice player, but there is no way he is anywhere near worth the value of Crawford, not even close. Forwards are a dime a dozen compared to Stanley Cup and ballsy winning goalie like Crawford. If Saad can be let go, there is no question Shaw can be dealt for a D-man that will make Crawford an even better goalie. Let s not lose sight the puck mismanagement we saw from some of the D men in front of Crawford some nights this season. How badly does it speak to Hawks D situation that Rundblad played the last three games after being waived and departed?

  89. Mining Man – I’m thinking San Jose. I had the Hawks beating them to get to the Finals so … We’ll make a little bet. If you’re right, any post I make will conclude with “Mining Man is a genius.” If I’m right, you’ll do that for me.

  90. Who is Cagguila that keeps getting mentioned ? And where is Chris Calnan now ?

    No way I would trade Bread man . Had is an incredible talent .

  91. Ernie- Daley did want a trade… but that came up after his Ice time went down (Tab’s stats- from 17+ minutes ,early in year… to much less than that)… Daley- saw things going in the wrong Direction between him and Q…

    Yes, I heard the same thing w/ Johns/Stars… but I am sure there were possible other trades… at the end of the Day… SB really thought he was UPGRADING that spot with younger/faster/Better Offensive D guy- Daley ( and on Paper- I can see why)…

    Sharp- could have been waived… and Hawks would have still done better in that trade…. Cuz Oduya AND Johns would still be in Chicago!!!

    I like Pokka in the O zone… really gets shots thru… But I don’t know if he has the foot speed…. Johns was as good or better -imo

  92. Caggiula was on a line w/ Nick Schmaltz all year at North Dakota. Would be an interesting add for the Hawks, esp w/ lots of talk that Schmaltz is probably headed back to UND for another year.

    Chris Calnan is still at Boston College.

    We’ve been updating the college prospects all season.

  93. One other player that would fit like a glove, be cost controlled, and would cost nothing to sign (other than dollars)…Jimmy Vesey. He probably signs with Boston. But he would fill a huge hole at LW.

  94. Sharp could have been waived… Except that he has a NMC and a modified NTC, so he really couldn’t have been. Sharp was a diminishing asset with questions of off ice character. We could have all been hopeful Daley would work. But it was apparent to everyone including Daley that it didn’t.

    Foot-speed doesn’t matter to Q. Look at Rozsival and Svedberg. He want’s guys that don’t crumble in the D-zone and who move the puck up to the forwards quickly

  95. Caggiula appears to be a longshot to sign with Chicago. But let’s see how this thing plays out. We don’t really know what Bowman and his scouting staff thinks of the young UND forward, but can assume they at least find him intriguing.

    Schmaltz looks like he wants to play his junior year at UND.

    Vesey seems to want to play for Boston badly. Can’t lose sleep over him.

    Pokka isn’t that good. Not the best skater, and I struggle to see how exactly he would fit the Quenneville style of play. He’s not going to be given a role…anything will have to be earned.

    We have seen firsthand the limitations of van Riemsdyk. He was asked to do way more than his physical skill set is capable of providing. He is NOT a top 4 defenseman on a good team. And neither is Gustafsson or Svedberg going to be a top 4 defenseman either. Meaning…the Hawks have to come up with another option for 2016-17 to pair with Keith, Seabrook and Hjalmarsson. Which is much easier said than done given our salary cap woes. Stephen Johns sure would look nice right now.

    Teuvo will be moved this summer. I’m convinced of that. Hopefully Bowman can package him with Bickell and we can be rid of #29’s awful remaining cap hit. But that is easier said than done too.

    Cheap veteran rentals will be what Bowman is forced to look at this summer to round out a roster. I still say trading Panarin HAS to be on the table of our necessity. And bringing Shaw back is the imperative.

    ? – Toews – ?
    Panarin – Anismov – Kane
    Panik – Kruger – Hossa
    Motte – Kero – Shaw

    Keith – Seabrook
    ? – Hjalmarsson
    van Riemsdyk – Gustafsson/Svedberg

    Crawford
    Darling

  96. Kero- I am sure is nice kid… plays hard… but Please- NO!
    Moose- is a better/ bigger version of that Vanilla player

    Can we just stop with the Harlem Globetrotter Line… Globetrotter’s look great versus Washington Generals- not so Good against REAL team’s!!!
    72/AA/Kane — PO’s proved that a True top D Line- will negate that– and leave Hawks with nothing… split up 2 0r all 3… better overall line balance/scoring (especially if Hoss is on 3rd line)… Panarin can generate/facilitate w/o Kane…

  97. Shaw is very good at what he does, liked him since his OHL days-but the rationale of getting rid of Panarin-(a top 25 talent in the league) to keep Shaw is beyond lunacy.

    You can’t keep everyone and perhaps not even Panarin, but you can find an Andrew Shaw type quicker than another BreadMan.—WOW!

    One day (not for a while) Panarin will price himself out of a tight cap team but only because he has elite skill.

  98. It’s funny Rufus thinks Caggiula is a longshot to sign in Chicago, A report a few days ago listed Vancouver, Edmonton, Ottawa Philadelphia, Chicago, and Buffalo as teams on his list.

  99. Rasmussen doesn’t thrill me much either. Kero is younger. Hartman has snarl…but the penalties are an issue. But if we remember, that was something Shaw dealt with as well.

  100. From what I don’t want to remember is that the first two goals came after failed attempts to simply clear the puck out of the zone by our number 1 and 2 d-men. We win as a team and we lose as a team. I still think that there are minimum 20 to 28 teams that would like to be in the Hawks position now and for the future.

    Can’t wait for ’16-’17 season! I’ll take a Cup every other year!

  101. Sndely Rufus, “We have seen firsthand the limitations of van Riemsdyk. He was asked to do way more than his physical skill set is capable of providing. He is NOT a top 4 defenseman on a good team.” —- was Oduya a top 4 defenseman on a good team his rookie season? (- “expected by many to be a depth player with the Devils, when several of the team’s defenders were injured, Oduya earned a spot in the lineup. He played surprisingly well…in the 2007 Stanley Cup playoffs, he was not dressed for New Jersey when the Devils were defeated in the second round,) He got an opportunity and went with it – may the same happens for van Riemsyk?

  102. “the rationale of getting rid of Panarin-(a top 25 talent in the league) to keep Shaw is beyond lunacy.” — Noona96 , “Nailed-it!!”

  103. Mudturtle- I for one would luv to see San Jose win the whole thing but just don’t see that happening….but….without the mighty Blackhawks in the mix it’s a heck of a lot easier for all of them. If there is any team that should win the Cup based on hard luck and “always there somewhere but not good enough” it’s the Sharks. Well at least Nick in San Diego could get to the parade and moon them as they went by. Now that would be genuis!

  104. Ok Mining Man. It’s a bet! :-) … I have to go with Washington in the East. #2 Offense with the #2 defense. I picked SJ on a hunch.

  105. Schmaltz should do himself a favor and stay at UND; not even ready for Ice Hogs. Would like to see him really dominate his opponents which he did not do in this year’s Frozen Four.

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