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Devils Down Blackhawks Again

Cory Schneider’s tremendous run continued at the expense of the Chicago Blackhawks.


For the sixth straight game, Schneider allowed no more than two goals and the Devils made their limited scoring chances matter at the United Center.

New Jersey was credited with only 22 shots on goal but three of them beat Corey Crawford, the third of which game with only 2:27 left in regulation while Patrick Kane sat in the penalty box.

Kane and Artemi Panarin were, once again, the sum of the Hawks offense. Kane scored his 11th of the season on a two-man advantage in the first period. Jersey scored twice in the second period to take the lead, but Panarin came back with his fifth of the year to tie the game in the third. Sergey Kalinin scored the game-winner a little more than four minutes after Panarin’s goal.

Andrew Shaw got the bump up to the top line with Jonathan Toews and Marian Hossa and picked up six hits in 18:19. However, Hossa was credited with five of the eight shots those three put on net in another game that ended without that like scoring a goal. (Toews had an assist on Kane’s power play goal in the first.)

The new-look third line showed some signs of promise, however. Marko Dano was credited with four hits and one blocked shot, but showed a lot of energy throughout the night. Teuvo Teravainen was only credited with one shot on net in another quiet evening, while Tanner Kero won one of four faceoffs and was credited with two hits and one takeaway.

On the blue line, Erik Gustafsson took another step forward with a strong showing once again. He skated 14:07 with an assist on Panarin’s goal and one hit, but has shown the ability to join the offense effectively over the last few games.

Gustafsson’s play has been good enough on both ends of the ice for David Rundblad’s time in Chicago to come to an end soon. With Duncan Keith and Michal Rozsival coming back from their injuries soon, the Hawks will need to make two defensemen disappear at some point. It has become clear that Gustafsson is ready to be part of the Blackhawks moving forward, displacing Rundblad for good.

But the Hawks front office still needs to pull the trigger on that move, which would require placing Rundblad on waivers as early as Friday morning.

Artem Anisimov skated 19:19, most of which was with Kane and Panarin, and picked up three hits and one blocked shot. He won only four of 14 faceoffs as Blackhawks not-named-Toews struggled at the dot; Chicago’s captain won 12 of 18 faceoffs, while the rest of the roster won only eight of 28.

Brandon Mashinter skated 5:37 with two hits. He finished minus-one.

Andrew Desjardins skated 7:21 with two hits. He finished minus-one.

The Hawks are back on the ice in St. Louis on Saturday night.

41 thoughts on “Devils Down Blackhawks Again

  1. Tab, you are dead on with Gustafsson, he has earned his skating time. He looked poised and mature on the ice, tonight. #5 gotta go!!

  2. No problem for me with Rundblad leaving. I felt this loss was on Crow vs Schneider. This was a goalie loss. Devils will play Schneider into the ice. Good luck with that come playoff time. I loved Jake Allen’s comments earlier this week. Play me I’m hot. More I play better I get. Lit up by Rangers tonight. Platooning keepers if you can pays dividends long term if you can give number 1 necessary time off. Hawks know recipe. Pity to have not taken points tonight. Divisional games coming up loom larger than I would like. Beat the Blues!!

    Lets Go Hawks!

  3. Well that sucks…now I got to go into to work in the morning and face that “Neumann” guy again, this time without the benefit of a weekend to cushion the effect. Thought we had them with Panarin’s goal followed by a couple of stellar saves by Crawford but it was not to be. Kane marches on with another 2 points. Sometimes it can be a rough go being a crazy hockey fan for your team and tomorrow will be a nightmare for me. Six goals against St. Louis tonite so you know they are going to be pissed as well making it a tough one down in St. Louis. Oh boy, I dread tomorrow but will take the taunting as best I can. Thankfully we don’t see these jackels again this year.

  4. Mining, be classy. Respect them being a regular season type of team. Always remember were in the middle of a dynasty.

    Did any of the tv stations show an instant replay of the high stick call.

  5. Just watched Comcast. Konroyd said the Hawks would have to expose Rundblad to waivers to send him down and in his words “they are not going to do that ” and said the Hawks have to decide who to send down. The graphic said Gustafsson or Svedberg ?

    Everybody on this board knows about Rundblad and waivers. I doubt Stan gives him away.

    I bet rosy and gusty rotate. Runny practices and Svedberg goes back to Rockford.

  6. I agree with Tab about Runblad, won’t be shocked to see him on waivers Friday, what with replacements ready. I think Stan can see that Runblad has been passed and if somebody claims him, it saves a little cap, though not much but for next year also I believe. I sense something coming soon, we will see.

  7. Craig I saw that too & heard Konroyd’s comments. Thing is, I don’t think their cap situation will allow them to keep both Gustafsson and Rundblad with only Svedberg going down.

    As decent as Svedberg has been, I think he’s going to Rockford. Moving Rundblad for a draft choice, whatever they might get, seems the logical solution. We’ll see.

  8. And the Hawks need defense??? NOT!!!

    Phil- thanks for keeping it real… Crow lost the goalie battle…

    How many games will Hawks win with only one line capable of scoring???

  9. They don’t seem to manage a complete game. Hopefully they will, shortly, as they always do on the circus trip. Keith coming back should help.

  10. I know the Hawks haven’t seemed to hit their stride yet and yes hopefully having Keith back will ignite that spark. Realistically the central will probably have 5 teams representing in the playoffs this season so if the Blackhawks can get past Winnipeg and stay ahead (and already past Colorado) they should make the playoffs and then anything can happen.

  11. Sad thing… could you imagine if Kane wasn’t playing like $10M dollar guy…

    Hawks wouldn’t be Pens2.0… they would be Pens4.0

  12. Wall, I think the odds would strongly suggest that there is enough talent spread around the Hawks lineup that eventually(soon I believe) pucks will start going in. Absence of Keith cannot be underestimated as it applies to offense being created from the back end. Schneider was really good last night and that didn’t help. Most important to watch is the scoring chances being created. There have been plenty spread around imo. I liked the lines Q skated last night. The kid line could get cooking any game now. 4th line will eventually produce. Let’s also remember that Kruger came to season opener after missing camp. Still probably playing himself into shape. Lottery line can’t be kept down much longer. We must also keep in mind that every team in the league brings their A game against the Hawks. They are THE team that everyone wants to beat in the worst way.

    Lets Go Hawks!

  13. Mashinter w/ outstanding Bollig impersonation. Honor roll. That aside, all the talk re: the “D” is a waste of time. Excluding Kane’s line, the other three lines are essentially non-functional from an offensive standpoint. It makes for an interesting season for sure, particularly on this blog if it persists. An aggravated “Q” post-game is entertaining. He doesn’t take kindly to losing. We’ll see how all this plays out.

  14. Team chemistry is still VERY MUCH a work in progress. The success of this team has always been predicated on poetic synchronization between offense and defense, and great passing and puck possession. With all the offseason changes that has been severely compromised. It just hasn’t come together. Yet.

    Also, we continue to try and place square pegs into round holes at forward. I shall continue to strongly insist the forward mix we have doesn’t all go together. Bowman and Quenneville know this too.

  15. Phil… I can see some better “puck luck” in the future…. BUT- I strongly dis-agree with “scoring chances”… I am NOT seeing it…

    4th line did finally create 1 or 2 solid Cycles… last year the norm – was 3-4 shifts …almost every game… I can only remember 2 or 3 decent games (for 4th line) all year….

    3rd line had one solid shift- (Dano- somehow missed the net)…

    19- zero shots on goal??? TT with 1 shot???

    Hossa will eventually score… But – let’s be real… every goalie in NHL knows he is going 5 hole… with very little wind-up in release… and father time has taken a few MPH off of his fastball!!!

    No more Saad- to put D on heals and allow 19/81 time and space on that 1st line.

  16. The Blackhawks are at 23 players right now (not including Rozy & Keith on IR).

    When Keith comes off IR, someone has to go just to get the team under the roster max, much less the cap.
    When Rozsival comes off IR, same deal. Someone has to go down to get the roster under the 23 player max.

    The discussion about whether or not Rundblad would be taken off waivers makes me laugh. If he does get claimed, WHO CARES?

  17. The Hawks played well enough to win that game. Agree Phil, tough night for Crow. The first goal from 45 feet out with no screen has to be stopped. Poor pick control on the second two goals. Iceman said it best”the other three lines area essentially non-functional from an offensive standpoint”. I hate to say this but Hossa seems to have lost some quickness relating to his shot. Time may finally be catching up to him. He still is a beast defensively though. I wonder what would happen if they put TT on the right side with 19 and Dano on the left side and move Hossa down to the third line. The first line has to get going. Svedberg’s lack of speed got exposed last night. I would send him down instead of Gusty. Hopefully the Mash experiment is over. At least Tikhonov can skate.

  18. Wall- You must have read my mind while I was typing but I guess you see the same thing relating to Hossa and his shot and Father Time.

  19. Inconsequential play in the grand scheme of the game as well as the outcome, but one of the reasons I love watching Hossa, was that steal in the second period when the Devils were exiting the zone. The defenseman played it just slightly too far out and Hossa pounces on it back into the zone. He didn’t control the puck and the opportunity slipped away but he nearly had a breakaway. How many other players see that developing? Toews, Datsuyk and Bergeron? Maybe Kopitar? Just another reminder of what a treat it is to watch him day in and day out. I often wonder if we even have 1 cup let alone 3 without signing 81.

  20. Tab- Hossa is my favorite Hawk!!!

    But- Father time catches Everyone… he is still better than most… but no longer – drives play/finishes like he used to… no secret here… and NOT a knock on him…
    just reality- that 81 needs help (and it ain’t 65, 14, etc.) if he is going to score 20-25 goals…

    Not seeing help on team as is… unless major line juggle

    1961- agree with your 8:22 post

  21. A few comments …

    Tab you may laugh at the Rundblad waiver comments and to a point I agree with you,. but it doesn’t appear (at least thus far) the front office agrees with you. Maybe that will change as soon as today, but contracts do indeed dictate what happens in this league. The easiest thing for now is to send the two guys with the 2 way deals down. Maybe there’s a timing issue with moving Rundblad – lots of factors in play.

    Wall when you type in CAPS and !!!! it doesn’t add validity to your posts. The puck luck will even out, it generally does. Their offense starts with their defense and they need another guy back there. Will they get one? Who knows. But all this chatter about them chasing an experienced D-man isn’t a fairy tale. I thought you’d be all over Crawford this morning since that was a goaltending win and loss last night, maybe you have more posts to come, it’s early in the day still.

    Further, interesting comments by Bowman on one of the Ask Hockey Opps segments. They see Terevainen as a center long term, said he’s at wing now for two reasons … 1). sometimes things are done out of necessity, and 2). wing is an easier position with less responsibility and it’s a good way to get guys feet wet. He said ultimately you will see Teuvo at center. Don’t shoot me, I didn’t say it, the GM did.

  22. Golden, thats the thing about that, even though our record (first 15 games) is as worst as it can be were basically tied with WIN for the 5 seed.

    Even though theres lots and lots of games with VAN/CAL not doing good (like last yr) that division should get 3 (deserves 2) and our division 5. I see teams taking WIN more seriously because they did good last yr (just like DAL did the yr before). I do not see DAL doing what COL and NAS did the last two yrs (starting 30-10).

    Theres no way to know but I think NAS/WIN will get more ‘good’ games from other teams because they did good last yr (like COL/DAL the yrs before). We get this every yr. I only see STL/MIN being at 25-30 games over .500 and everybodyelse 15-25.

    Thing to remember is we havnt played good/really good yet, most of those teams have (in the first 15games). Once we do at some point in games 20-40, then we will have a decent record and then have a chance to play for the 1or2 seed but theres nothing wrong with the 3 seed because game 6 is on home ice then.

  23. Hossa is a Hall of Fame player. A tremendous career and one of the all-time great true two-way forwards in the league. That said, at age 36 and with a whole ton of mileage on those skates, he is absolutely down. And starting last year his offensive abilities have declined. Sure, there are times when he cranks it up, and sure also he is smart veteran who knows to save something in the tank for the playoff push in late winter. But honestly, we all know he isn’t the dynamic force on offense that he once was. And this team shall need to continue to adopt to the “evolution” of Hossa. The question becomes what is “best” for Jonathan Toews in terms of linemates. I don’t know the answer to that because we have a very strange mix of 12-14 forwards who we are trying (and failing) to make into a cohesive unit.

    There has to be a trade coming at forward. Particularly if we continue to struggle in developing chemistry and going back to the days of fluidity, exceptional passing and puck possession. I shall continue to insist Teuvo is not long for the Chicago Blackhawks and will be wearing a different NHL sweater soon.

  24. The Hawks would be the Pens 2 if Toews Kane and Keith all became chronically injured and their coach sucked.

    Seems unlikely all 4 of those things will happen.

    It would be cool of Toews started putting up some points at even strength and dictating the course of the game rather than being a passenger. Apparently the 10 million dollar best player in the NHL needs to be surrounded by superstars to have success offensively. BUT FACEOFFS!

  25. Hossa’s only problem is his “desire” to hold and control the puck, he passes up more high quality shots than all the hawks combined but he can still skate, hit, own the puck and score and pass and he’s on balance the best partner for Toews when it comes to shutting down the top line on the other side. They are really a top defensive line before they’re an offensive line.

    Gustafsson is average at best, not sure I see any dramatic difference between him and Run-bad but leave that to the bloggers here. Daley is showing small signs of improvement HAWKS D is NOT the PROBLEM, problem is now they DEMAND them to join the rush and be more offensive minded.

    POOR Hammer, got caught more than once on the rush “behind the net” and smart teams like Devils just knock ya on your ass as they did, now he’s down and they are going the other way. Knowing when and where to join that rush is not in all defensemen’s dna.

    Shaw looked effective on the top line but Hawks do NOT have the luxury of that.He need to be on the 3 or 4th line for impact and steady d and speed.

    We should be able to have 2 hard hitters with speed on the 4th line to compliment Marcus. Dezi is just okay but maybe get Garbutt and Tikhonov with him, some more speed and a little more scoring maybe.

    The challenge is our 4th line and our 3rd line both not good. The only good news about the 4th line is that still forecheck great, they control the puck and the zone and che wup minutes which is all hockey is, hold the puck. Hawks best at it. That 3rd line that all you bloggers here have sliced and diced with these “ben Smiths” look alike in the ahl as promised are doing nothing, no impact, yes a effort but nothing.

    Sad to say I think Bick should be gone but damn if he could get his head out of his ass and play like he did 3 year ago, damn it would help. But not going to happen.

    Trade coming soon not for a defense men but winger with size and speed. The defense has been okay, but damn we need to score!

    Go hawks its a long season!

  26. Hawks can easily score more goals. Shaw is the only consistent net front presence period. Hawks over pass again Disney on ice, Teams will let you pass until your chubby little finger blister in your sweaty gloves around the perimeter. Hawks need a effective second line power play.

    Our Second line With The Artist & Kane might be the best in the NHL right now!
    Toews and Hossa are the two best defensive guys in the NHL right now!
    When Keith gets back we have 3 of the best pure defensemen in the nhl, and two of the best two way guys. Seabrook as noted is the best because he is seldom out of position, yes puck gets by at blue line at times but never never trapped below the face off circle in the o-zone. Knows when to drop down and not plus if ya watch his SHOT GETS TO THE NET, not easy to do, his vision is amazing he’s slow but amazing!

    To score more as they say shoot more and get rebounds, 5 or 6 times a game a puck battle is won behind the net, a flip pass comes out right in front of the net and no one there! Get to the net and drift to net and close to the net. Goalies BIG net SMALL margin of error tiny, unless your my man “The Artist”

    go hawks
    Not many team better right now maybe Rangers? maybe not?

  27. In trade ya got give something to get something? I smell a trade or maybe not, not sure we can get what we need in a package deal? We need speed and size but so does everyone else?

    go hawks they have been in this JAM before.

  28. AJ- the Hawks/Pens2.0… really isn’t about 19/88 playing bad (they are not)…
    it’s about what $$$/players, you have left to surround them with… right now $$$ flanking 19/LW and 3rd and 4th lines… ain’t enough!!!

    Last year (cuz Kane injury) – Hawks could skate $10M on 3rd line in Playoffs…
    this year- LESS than $3M on 3rd line right now (closer to $2.5M)

    2013 cup- 4th line- winning goal- around $7M

  29. Tab- Nobody is saying Hossa is over the hill. Some of us are suggesting he is not the same offensive force he used to be. He does not have the same quick, explosive shot he used to have. This is to be expected of a guy his age. He still is an important part of this team and a defensive plus. Perhaps his time on the first line should be scrutinized.

  30. 1961= agreed….

    or if you are going to call the 1st line “Premier checking line”… then friggin put Desi on there or 14and double shift Panarin from time to time if you need to score…

    65 has only looked “Offensive”/good on 3rd lin RW for 1 game

    Right now the 4th line has almost as many goals 5/5 as 1st line… like zero goals to what ???3 or 4??? that is not gonna get it done

  31. to the conversation around the Hawks becoming the Pens 2.0…

    the other MAJOR issue with that argument is the Pens overpaid Letang (a should-be forward) on the back end & didn’t support their blue line well thru the draft or free agency for a half decade. Now they’re starting to get some good kids like Maata up, but their blue line was a mess for a few years. The Blackhawks have 3 rings because they aren’t JUST Toews & Kane. Pittsburgh’s defense doesn’t have Keith-Seabrook-Hjalmarsson for a top 3 and they simply haven’t drafted enough depth to supplement their stars up front. Truthfully, Pittsburgh’s draft track record since Crosby has NOT been good at all.

  32. Wall, I think it would be a remote possibility that Hawks 1 line centered by Toews will continue to shoot blanks, whomever gets plugged in over on left wing. Same with 3 and 4 lines. It really should start to even out, and this will hopefully just be a short term trend as far as 2 line getting most of the offensive production other the PP. The good news right now is that Anisimov line is cooking.It is still relatively early in the season and there are new guys that need to get time to find some chemistry. Not that my opinion means much, but that is how it looks to me.

    Lets Go Hawks!

  33. Hossa is a Fall of Famer who makes teams much better-but I do agree with others that eventually the product on the ice will diminish (it’s starting). Heh, in today’s NHL it usually starts well before 36
    Rufus is right-sometimes we see a stretch of games, but then not so much.

    That’s why I was surprised when others we’re thinking he’ll still be a strong contributor in 6 or 7 years (like Jagr) I don’t want to think of this elite player as a shell of what he was-a powerful contributor on offence and defense.

  34. Mike the Mook…Great comments about Seabrook. He does not get the credit he deserves. When Keith went down, Seabs picked up his game to fill the void. Look who has 12 points…Seabs. It riles me when people talk about the core and leave #7 out of it. He helps #2 do his thing. Seabs is a gamer (and I believe an eventual Hall of Famer) and steps up his game when it matters.

    With regard to Hossa, I also agree with Hawks1961 suggestion of trying Hossa on the third line and putting Dano and Teuvo on the line with Toews. Someone commented about Hoss passing up shots and holding the puck too long. I agree with that comment. One timer does not seem to be in Hoss’s arsenal anymore. His offensive goal production has dropped the last 1.5-2.0 years. He is still one of the top defensive “BEAST” forwards in the NHL. Hey, Q’s the coach and he is constantly scrambling lines so give it a shot. It can cut back some of Hossa’s minutes to keep him fresher for the playoffs.

    Wall, it was funny how you stopped using Caps and exclamation points after Hof gave you a shot. LOL!!!

    Go Hawks!!!

  35. Tab totally share your sour taste for Runblad. I see Gus and Sveddy were sent down and don’t see anything about Runblad. I don’t understand Stanbo’s obsession with the guy. I was shocked when we resigned him in the off season and didn’t move him. And, now he is sitting in the press box most of the season. We have the need for help on defense with Keith out and we bypass the guy for AHL players. What does that telegraph to other clubs about his value? I don’t see that you have any alternative but to waive him because I can’t see anyone trading for him.

  36. As TT progresses and matures, I hope he learns from Keith’s example when it comes to fitness and strength training. Love the kid’s skills – and any trade talk is nonsense – but he needs to be tougher in his board battles. Right now he seems to shy away from a lot of that contact. Imagine those skills with a few more pounds and a lot more grit.

  37. Hof, I don’t use the !!! Or CAPS for validity,,, it is more to “emphasize ” points or speak with inflection. .. which nobody can “hear” while I’m writing…

    If it really bothers you…. I will make sure I continue!!! Lol

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