Devils Open Trade Market – How Their Moves Impact the Blackhawks

On Sunday the New Jersey Devils officially rang the bell to open the trade market. They made two moves that should help improve their club into the future – and provided some idea of what teams could try to get when they start selling.

The first deal is perhaps more noteworthy for the Blackhawks. New Jersey traded defenseman Andy Greene to the New York Islanders for exchange for New York’s second round pick in the 2021 NHL Draft and defenseman David Quenneville.

David Quenneville was a seventh round pick by the Islanders in 2016. The 21-year-old defenseman has not appeared in an NHL game. But the important part of this equation is the second round pick.

Greene, 37, is in the final year of a contract with a $5M cap hit. He has 11 points in 53 games this season. Greene was averaging 20:07 on the ice per night of which 3:25 was coming short-handed. Greene led the Devils with 136 blocked shots on the season.

The Islanders gave up a good pick to bolster their blue line heading into a playoff push. The Islanders come into Monday tied for third place in the Metropolitan Division with 72 points.

If the Devils were able to get a second round pick for a 37-year-old defenseman in a walk year, the Blackhawks should be able to ask for comparable value if they were to entertain trading 25-year-old Olli Maatta. Maatta is averaging 18 minutes per game and ranks third on the Blackhawks with 94 blocked shots in 54 games. He has a $4,083,333 cap hit with two years remaining after the 2019-20 season on his contract.

The value New Jersey got for a defenseman in the final year of his contract is intriguing when the Blackhawks consider another defenseman who should be on the market: Erik Gustafsson. Gustafsson, 27, is in the final year of a contract with a $1.2M cap hit. After putting up 17 goals and 43 assists last year, Gustafsson has taken a step back this year. He’s lost his spot on the top power play unit (at times) to rookie Adam Boqvist but he still has 26 points in 58 games.

The other deal saw the Devils send forward Blake Coleman to the Lightning for forward prospect Nolan Foote and a first round pick in the 2020 or 2021 NHL Draft. Foote is a solid center who will add another dynamic weapon to the Devils’ young group as early as next year. He was the 27th overall pick in the 2019 NHL Draft.

The first round pick is conditional but the white-hot Lightning are going all-in. They paid a steep price to get a good, young, physical forward with a very modest contract.

Coleman, 28, as one year remaining on his current contract with a $1.8M cap hit. He led the Devils in hits and has scored 21 goals this season. The Blackhawks don’t really have a good comparable player for Coleman; Brandon Saad has 18 goals but isn’t the hitter Coleman is; he is better defensively and plays a big role on the Hawks penalty kill, however. Saad’s contract has a $6M cap hit for one more year after the 2019-20 campaign.

57 thoughts on “Devils Open Trade Market – How Their Moves Impact the Blackhawks

  1. Trade them all, saad, Ollie, Duncan if he’ll waive Corey and or robin if he won’t sign extension, Gus, we need to move on to rebuild, can’t imagine Dale and Q wouldn’t want Keith!

  2. Greene maybe a little more dependable in his own end but by no stretch a physical player. He lacks the offense and pp ability of a Gus, so right team ( vgk) maybe gives a late 1st rnder for him. Maatta may be an insurance if Dehaan and/or Seabrook start next year on ir/ ltir, interesting to see if there is interest what happens.

    The conditional pick Devils got us if Canucks miss pkayoffs it becomes 2021 1st instead.

    Wouldn’t be to concerned if Lehner ask us too high, sign Crawford and Delia as backup. If Crawford goes down, use his caphit and fo shopping if needed. Also if Ltir is in the picture, as Tab mentioned in other post, a couple of seasons similar to what we see Leafs doing could be in picture. Be ironic if Arizona, now with cap issues had to deal Hossa’s last year with a prospect back to Blackhawks if running on ltir space next season.

  3. I don’t get all these calls to trade Matta. He has been very steady all year and is a +9. He has done the job he was brought in to do. The clear trades at the deadline are Gus and Lehner. We should get at least a first and second along with either a lower pick or prospect for these two. Prior to the draft we can explore other moves. As someone else posted, Strome has cost himself a lot of money this year (too bad we were in a rush to extend Dcat). I would guess Strome gets a two year bridge at this point.

  4. Kinda hoping now its play for next year time again, put together

    8 19 88
    20 77 12

    If still around after tdl and see if they can give a good 1-2 lines. Then put together

    91 17 92
    36 64 22

    Tell them they are playing for a roster spot/contract next year. Bring Delia up as a backup addition after goalie moved for next year and Carlsson for Gus as audition too.

  5. Ian – agree with your post. I would also like to see Hagel get some games. I sure hope Gus and Lehner are sitting until traded. The last thing we need is an injury that blows up a trade.

  6. MS, thank you for the Maata support. I just posted on the previous thread that I don’t understand the calls to trade Maata.

    Sometimes there are self-inflicted wounds, sometimes you have no choice and sometimes a decision that was decent at the time does not work out. The self-inflicted wound was the Seabrook contract. Having no choice was the Toews contract. They would have hung Rocky and Bowman in effigy outside the UC if they had let Toews go. That said, last year and a large part of this year, Toews is playing excellent again. Maybe not $10.5 excellent, but it’s irrelevant. They had no choice when he and Kane negotiated as a team. A contract that a lot of us liked when it was signed that has blown up is the DeBrincat contract. That said, it is early and it hasn’t even kicked in. He can get it back and probably will. If he doesn’t, a lot of us can’t really cry because the blogs were full of “Thank you for taking the bridge deal, Alex” posts. It looked good at the time. The hands of a 22 year old probably don’t turn to stone so he should get it back.

    Strome should be on the table. Somebody mentioned on another thread that he is completely ineffective if he does not have a lot of room and that was well stated. I would not give him away, but if a team is willing to slightly overpay, I would let him go. He and DeBrincat can’t even make it work anymore. Maybe that is temporary. Everybody has slumps and some have severe slumps – like Toews.

    Most of us have not anointed Kubalik to the HOF yet, but he would be on my untouchable list with Boqvist and Dach. Of course, that is dependent upon the contract he is willing to sign. I would try to keep Caggiula. He is not untouchable but brings grit and is an effective player and defensively responsible.

    If this year follows most years, the players that the message board posters want traded will stay and the players that the posters want to stay will go. Glad trading season has started. This will be fun, exhilarating and aggravating.

  7. Play the youngsters and unload as much dead weight as possible. This team hasn’t the ability to go on a run, so it’s time to build for the NEAR future. It’s the era of Dach and, Boquist, Sikura, Barratt, Beaudin, Mitchell, et, al.

  8. The Hawks won’t be dealing Lehner or Crawford to a division team like Colorado unless they maybe include Bynam or 1 of their other 1st round prospects.Their play of late indicates they need help in a few places with Kadri and a couple of others going down.Maybe Lundquist would wave and come out to the Rocky Mountains.

  9. Avs have their no. 1 goalie, so be a rental not to resign, no difference if it’s division rival or not. When an ufa no way to stop him from signing anywhere anyways so where he goes is a really no concern on an expiring contract.

  10. Better yet. Bet ya Smith would want to go to the Avs to get a chance at the Cup and he is more of an aggressive agitating type Kadri like player that the Avs might want.

  11. Thanks for the article, gave me an opportunity to see some examples. As opposed to the “fantasy hockey ideas” that one sees in a variety of other places.

  12. 3rd overall picks don’t always pan out but I’d be hesitant to give up on a 22 year old.
    And as one person called him-‘a loser’ what a joke and an insult to a person who has made it to the best league in the world and is averaging near a point a game with the Hawks.
    Hopefully’ a loser’ is someone who is wasting their own life by being critical of others.

  13. I think the Hawks need to be patient with Strome and Dcat and I think they will

    At least another year for both before we know what we’ve got with them

    Strome should be playing centre though – if he’s going to be effective it’ll be at centre IMO

    Ian – I get the Maatta as insurance angle and I agree with others he’s done his job, in fact I think he’s a very smart D man who makes up for his slow footedness with his smarts and he would be a valuable player in the playoffs

    For all these reasons he could bring back a decent return and the Hawks aren’t making the playoffs and he makes too much for a 3rd pair guy – we can have the $7 miilion man Seabs handle 3rd pair duties, or Seeler or Mitchell or some UFA

    If there’s a good trade there for 6 it makes sense for him to go IMO

  14. JR if they call up a replacement salary, that would put them above floor. At 73.5m minus 14m in salary plus 1.5m callup in minimum salary puts them at 61m, floor is 60.5m. May need to add a litle bit next season to get there though.

  15. Can they trade a GM, a coach,
    and his assistants?

    Just think, at one time they had Q, Jamie Compon, and Mike Kitchen behind the bench.

    Now? It’s Greg Brady, a washed up Marc Crawford, and some guy named Tomas Mittel.

    Can u imagine 19, 88, 20, and 65 taking direction from some guy named Tomas Mittel?

    Thank u Stan Bowman.
    Job well done.

  16. Everyone is a Ref, Coach or GM. How could you expect a playoff team when you had six Rookies on your Roster. Blackhawks couldn’t compete with Rosters of three and four good lines. The FA pick ups have been grinders and stay at home defensemen.

    Sign Lehner and keep Crawford. Why is everybody getting on Keith? He has had a great season. At times he tries to do to much. We need a few guys at Rockford to step up and be great players.

  17. Who cares? The Blackhawks have been irrelevant for 3 plus years now. Bowman’s ability to sign players that are younger and with upside is showing and some of the deals he’s made are real head scratchers. In order to improve the club they need to dismiss Bowman and bring in someone who knows hockey

  18. NBC Sports Chicago just reported tonight that Lehner will NOT be signing in Chicago. Said talks between Stan et al with Lehner et al have resulted in Blackhawks saying a flat NO to the money Lehner demands.

    More reason to move Lehner now. Made sense anyway to move him regardless, though. He’s what you can get return on.

    Blackhawks need to move for prospects and picks, but can’t forget about the time window that is shrinking for Toews, Kane, etc. This team needs more in the long run than just youngsters and picks. Need to somehow get impact players and also not deplete their D-Corp totally. That’s why I’m not so hip on moving Maata.

    Moves have to be made now AND in the off-season for this team to jump back into playoff relevance in a serious fashion. Makes it complicated for Bowman but that’s what he has to do (perhaps with McD’s and Blunk’s blessings).

  19. Schaller, Tyler Madden a ncaa prospect center, and if he resigns a 2nd rnder next year. Madden small and skilled player

  20. Kings get a nice package for Toffoli. Madden is a very good prospect plus a 2nd rounder and a conditional pick if Toffoli re-signs. Makes me more optimistic about what we get for Lehner and Gus.

  21. MS sounds like Madden a Dylan Sikuea type, 3round pick, skilled center 155 lbs. with top 6 ceiling. Needs to bulk up and bring his offense to pros to impact and stick.

  22. I fully agree that Maatta has done a good job and unless the return is high I see no reason to trade him. Same with Saad.

    Lehner (now) and Gus are obvious must-deals. I would shop Strome, Carpenter and Smith as well.

    Foote is potentially a nice return for Devils.

    Not worried about losing Lehner if it comes to that. The money just isn’t there and CC has always come through for us so maybe he can do it again.

    Stan usually gets busy early, so I am expecting things to start happening soon.

  23. The report that Lehner not signing might diminish return. Forget about not trading within the conference. Vanc and LA in the same division. Lehner to Avs if Grubuaer out for awhile.

    Good game tonight. Colo vs TB. Stanley Cup preview. Colo gets smoked Lehner will be on the first plane out.

  24. Ian – I believe Madden is a much better prospect than Sikura but you are correct they are both small guys. Madden is the son of John Madden so he has great genes and has played well at world juniors.

    I don’t think the Lehner news should impact his value. He is unquestionably the best goalie option out there so if you are trying to compete for a cup why not show your players you are all in and bring in the best guy. Carolina needs him right now as they are on the bubble. I would expect a deal by Wednesday since Lehner really shouldn’t even dress if he is still on the team to prevent injury.

  25. Buy out Shaw-Seabrook.. And trade the dead weight offensive players… Smith-saad..strome.. Why would you entertain teading 22-23 year olds (debrincat) who is in a slump and keep 30-33 year old Over paid non producing players ? Saad scoring 20 goals for 6.7 m should be dealt for good return.

  26. Let’s compare Saad’s goal point totals to a few other $6 million players

    Saad 18 goals so far this year with almost no PP time and playing on the 3rd line for 1/2 of the year
    Jordan Staal – 7 goals
    Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 15 goals
    Kyle Okposo – 6
    Brock Nelson -21
    Jake Guentzel – 20

    The players with more goals (and only by 2 or 3) than him also on $6 million contracts get much more PP time than Saad and didn’t spend 1/2 the year on the 3rd line most of that time dragging around Kampf who I like as a grinder but is not an offensive producer

    Once he moved up to the top 6 Saad has produced at a higher rate – I really don’t think he’s overpaid by very much if he’s overpaid at all (however Staal and Okposo are overpaid)

    Give Saad a whole year with either 88 or 19 and his numbers would be better

    I’d have to be blown away by an offer to trade him

  27. Hull, thanks for posting on other thread about who you would keep and add. I like your ideas, kind of same players that Tim/HHNL/others want.

  28. Cant remember if it was Craig or Roamn, that teams were paying high for players. This is just what we needed. Were in the right position this time and its a deep draft.

    We have the company card here. Let her rip.

  29. I agree, SAAD needs to stay especially that we gave up a 79 point super star in Panarin. It’s a no brainer, he needs to be a top six forward. In 2015, he played on the 2nd line alongside Kane and Richards and he was a force on the wing! We just need another power forward and a center who can keep up with Kane and be creative!
    Lehner can be traded! Nino Ned is available, maybe a prospect on the wing plus a 2nd round pick. Throw in Sikura as well! Carolina needs a goalie!
    After they are mathematically out of the playoffs or if they lose against the Rangers wednesday night, please fire this Junior coach and hire Laviolette before he gets picked up by another Western team! Kane and Toews will love this guy!
    By the way, Burakowski, Stanley Cup winner in Washington would have looked good in a HAWKS uniform at the beginning of the season but no, Colorado who was loaded up front picked him up as well as Donskoi, both could have been a huge upgrade on the wing. Plus, Burakowski can also play center. Where was Stan? Oh yeah, watching video tape of Carpenter in slow motion and adsded more hype to Sikura’s CV!

  30. Hull – it must be a nice world where you can ignore significant realities. I actually like Burakovsky but it cost the Avalanche a 2nd and 3rd round pick. In addition, his salary is 3.25m -all for a guy coming off a terrible year. Carpenter was a free agent who cost us nothing to sign for 1m. Not quite apples to apples. By the way what happened to James Neal and Anthony Duclair? You don’t seem to be as high on them now that they have fallen back to earth.

  31. Let’s get the ball rolling, er puck sliding on our 21-22 Cup run. When is it possible to talk to Seattle about drafting Seabs? If not yet you tell Ronnie Francis to look at our prospects and follow 3 to 4 of them. Tell him he will get 1 that we decided that is not on the big league roster at expansion draft time.

    If Vegas takes Gus get their #1 (probably #2) with Nicolas Roy.

    As I said Lehner and Smith to Colorado for their #1 and a body.

    Send Crow to Carolina for their #1 and a body. Nino would be fine as 65 sez.

    Now we have 4 #1s .

    Ship 3 # 1s to NJ for their #1 and take Simmonds off their hands. If possible maybe 3 #1s plus Seabs and a Horseman not Boq for their #1 Simmonds and PK, them retaining 4.5 mil. With Seabs permission of course.

    That should get the puck sliding for 20-21 21-22

  32. a third pairing dman should be a young guy on an elc with potential to be a second pairing dman down the road or a veteran on the back side of his career willing to play for $2 million or less. maatta is making $4 million with potential to slide to a 7th dman. this team is going nowhere with him. out the door for $4 million a year cap relief and a pick or prospect who’s salary doesn’t count against the cap.

  33. If only it was that easy! if every team that wants first round picks get 3 of them-let’s do the math. Are there that many picks? 3 x 14 = carry the 2
    But in reality one or two (maybe three, –4 in a leap year but this is a leap year– first picks actually change hands per trade deadline).

    An getting rid of both goalies at the deadline would be the ultimate slap in the face to 3 of the greatest players in Hawk history. And I believe in general you can’t make the decisions to appease the old guard-but com’on. Back to reality…and sanity.

  34. Speaking of draft picks recall the better the team does the worse that pic gets.
    Fourth round picks and up you’re looking typically at minimum three years before they play. About half prove to be contributing players at an eyeball glance. And of those many do it on a team that did NOT draft them. Again at a glance
    Third round and second round again years away from contributing. Heck even first rounders, even high picks,typically dont make a contribution for a couple few years.

    Point is right now the minors on defense is thin. Forwards….well what’s your opinion there. Point is sure trade whoever for draft picks….but who exactly is going to play the rest of the season and next year?????

  35. Larmer, thats just like 2013, 2014, 2015 when having Leddy at 2m and Rozy at 2.2m, then those Leddy goes to 2nd pair-when we donot have two better Defensemen then him in 4 27 and Rozy does a hometown fro league min. .625m? This time we donot have 4 27, we have an injured-maybe retire 44/7 and 5.

  36. Good ideas Larmer but I doubt that Seabrook would ok a trade to NewJersey.Maybe Edmonton or Vancouver,even Vegas.From Colorado I would take Bynam for Lehner.Although ,they just lost Rantannen last night for about 3 weeks.Teams are starting to get real physical with the Avalanche.They are going to have to get a #1 Goalie.Francois aint going to get it done in a playoff series.

  37. What you guys say makes sense, but at some point we have to bitthe bullet and do whats better for the team longterm-and I donot mean 10 yrs from now when some prospect/picks are in prime yrs, I mean in a yr or so/when the picks are ready and on. I mean if were going to get over the speedbumb of being stuck inbetween we have to at some point.

    Why now, we didnt do as good as we are roster wise for several reasons. We have 2 top 5 skill draft players-so far. Lets get another one and draft in a deep draft. Not saying trade the whole house except 19 88, just more then whats reality. Were not going to g crazy here, though grab the reality by the horns and shake it/make some bold moves.

  38. Some of the ideas and player movements spewed at length on this blog?

    They seem far more cogent than anything the managerial group of the Chicago Blackhawks had produced in the last 3 years.

    The team on the ice now has the talent to make the playoffs. Even with the dead weight much discussed already.

    They are coached and managed poorly.
    Hence, the streakiness of this team.

    Until the management and coaching staff changes, all the ideas noted above will get this team nowhere.

  39. From a GM standpoint, a good GM senses the need for change.
    But that change has to come with a pedigree replacement to remain at an elite level.

    Bowman failed miserably in this regard and should be canned sooner rather than later for such failure.

    They means Greg Brady, Marc Crawford and that Mittel guy are out the door too.

    Then and only then will the product on the ice improve.

  40. The team on the ice now has the talent to make the playoffs. Even with the dead weight much discussed already.

    I have felt this way the entire season, just we suck-really for how good we should be. Though HHNL said it best, we need-want Cup deep lines and pairs. What do we need to get to that, that is what I want to do.

    The organization hasnt done enough before, fine. Do it now, get some balls and buck reality and the past. Move your Asss!

  41. I agree with consideration at the start of last summer for Burakovsky. Watched him closely last night. Versatile, big, and skilled. I think he got traded 2 days before we then decided to trade for Andrew Shaw. When you look at the difference in salaries , age, and skill……… if the idea of Burakovsky was thought of at the very least by Stan Bowman, you have to take Burakovsky over Shaw all day long.

  42. You could get shitfaced pretty easily if you came up with a drinking game for every time Hull65 brings up Carpenter. We get it, your not pleased we picked him up, and even more upset that he skates with Kane. How do you feel about Stan and Colliton though….

  43. Players are flying off the trade bait chart.Still plenty of desperate buyers out there for Lehner,Gus,Strome,Maata,etc.Stay near your phone Stan.

  44. Mistakes were made, but that Rangers goalie won that game in my opinion. Not just a lot of saves but quality ones. Hawks could’ve had 10 goals tonight

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