Dubnyk, Wild Overcome Kane, Hawks

Sunday night was a battle for first place in the division between the Wild and the Blackhawks, and it lived up to its billing.

Patrick Kane came out of the room with a sense of purpose and dominate the first period. He scored his 13th of the season at 4:33 into the first and was on the attack the entire opening 20 minutes.

Even though the Hawks dressed seven defensemen, Chicago out-shot Minnesota 14-8 in the first and continued to carry the action early in the second. Kane added his second of the night and 14th of the season at 4:16 into the second.

Artem Anisimov had an assist on both of Kane’s goals.

However, the red-hot Wild weren’t going away easily. Anisimov went to the box and Nino Niederreiter scored on the power play to cut the lead to 2-1. Chris Stewart then tied the game at 11 minutes into the second, and the Blackhawks were under seige. The Blackhawks out-shot the Wild 16-15 in the second period but the visitors controlled the final 14 minutes of the middle period.

Five minutes into the third, Marco Scandella threw a shot wide of the net and the puck found Hawks-killer Jason Pominville on the doorstep for an easy goal. Minnesota now lead 3-2 after training by two early in the second.

The Hawks desperately tried to square the score, and got a power play with Corey Crawford on the bench inside the final minute. But Devan Dubnyk was too good and the Hawks passing wasn’t, and the Wild emerged with a big win and stand alone in first place in the division.

Jordin Tootoo and Andrew Desjardins were healthy scratches, leaving their zero combined points this season in the press box in favor of seven defensemen.

Kane finished the night with 12 shots on net in over 27 minutes of ice time, scoring twice. Jonathan Toews won 11 of 21 faceoffs in 20:35, while Anisimov won seven of 17 at the dot.

Nick Schmaltz skated 8:29 with two shots on net.

Artemi Panarin and Vinnie Hinostroza led the Hawks with three hits each, while Niklas Hjalmarsson had a team-high three blocked shots. Hinostroza also led Chicago with two takeaways in 13:46.

Crawford stopped 29 of 32 in the loss, while Dubnyk made 33 saves in the victory.

63 thoughts on “Dubnyk, Wild Overcome Kane, Hawks

  1. Interesting that Tab mentions Desjardins and Tootoo with no points once again. No mention of the 10.5 million dollar center with 0 points and 0 shots in over 20 minutes of ice time. Do we give heat to the team water boys or the team quarterback?

  2. Kane was a man on a mission tonight,.,.Toews ,with 0 shots on net ,.,,..kinda tired of that story .

    This team will go as far as it,s Captain will take it , not very far at this rate .

  3. Kane came out to play tonight that is for sure. Not sure who saw the post game interview on ice when asked a question about his thoughts on the rookies but he also then called out the Veterans on the team that they need to play better. I would assume he also meant himself. Good to see him shooting again.

  4. Michal Rozsival has no business on the ice he needs dropped and Forsling called back up as 7th D man. I also think a decision needs to made on either Desi or Tootoo, they are redundant we don’t need both.

    Hartman needs to skate on the top line with Toews and Hossa. Vinny works hard and is very fast but lacks the skill to skate top 6 plain and simple. It hasn’t worked at all on the top line yet Q puts him out there night after night. Hartman, Panik and Motte for that matter have had more success on the top line with Toews and Hossa.

    lines without calling Motte and Krugs on IR up given current roster:
    Hartman – Toews – Hossa
    Panarin – Anisimov – Kane
    Schmaltz – Kero – Panik
    Rasmussen – Desi – Vinny

    If you call Motte up
    Hartman – Toews – Hossa
    Panarin – Anisimov – Kane
    Motte – Kero – Panik
    Rasmussen – Schmaltz – Vinny/ Desi

  5. When they sent Motte to Rockford the PK and defensive play went downhill. Plus Kruger is out.
    Concerned about Toews and the lack of any production on that “1st” line. Plays are dying with him. Is he just thinking too much or not thinking at all? Injured? What is going on?
    I agree Hartman should be moved back with Hossa. They played out of their minds before Hossa was injured and we haven’t seen them back together since. The way it normally goes with Q.
    Watching Kane play sometimes is just a thing of beauty.

  6. Ryan you’ve crystalized the issues. By definition, you can’t roll four lines by dressing 7 D-men. Roszival has worn out his welcome; if the Hawks waived him, it’s fair to say he would go unclaimed. Thanks for fhe memories Rozy.

    It’s disrespectful to Campbell — who was signed to be a top 4 D-man — to treat him like a spare part. I haven’t seen anything in Campbell’s play to warrant healthy scratches and mind games. Since when did TVR become Denis Potvin?

    As for Desjardins & Tootoo, if they are going to play 5 mins a night or not at all, go ahead and waive them. Tootoo most definitely will go unclaimed, and Desjardins likely as well. We’ve all seen Desjardins can be a useful player, but not under the current circumstances.

    Four lines must be rolled, if that means Schmaltz & Motte play w/ Rasmussen, so be it. Or better yet w/ Kero once Kruger returns. Rasmussen can slot in — or out — as the 13th forward.

    Lastly, this all falls on Q. He has his obsessions w/ certain players and can’t let go; he didn’t like Vermette, whom was instrumental to say the least in winning the last Cup. Vermette leads the league in faceoffs, and makes $1.25M less per yr than Kruger. How about Danault? Bowman wouldn’t have traded him if Q hadn’t soured on him. 9 goals and 12 assists, @ less than 1/3 of Kruger’s cap hit.

    Q can get upset all he wants, there are enough talented players on the team as a whole if properly utilized. We’ll see how it plays out.

  7. Can any one figure out what’s wrong with Toews? Losing all the puck battles ? Forget the offensive side of his game. It has spilled over into other parts of his game…forechecking, faceoffs, defence. What’s going on? Has he hit a wall in his carreer?

  8. JT, thinking same.

    Proud of the way we responded, played good and outplayed them. They got rewarded with bounce off boards. Thats just wrong especially when we wanted this win and deserved it more then they did.

    (should be 17 and 15 games over .500 now its 19 and 13 with games in hand)(That’s it we now have to play from behind the entire time game 40-60)(sch looks good for 2nd 40 games/15 games favorable, then 7of9 against top 10 teams, then 5 favorable, then 5of7 top 10 teams)(looks like we could be back in first place in division and conference by deadline)(they have a condensed sch in the 2nd 40)

    Another bullshit penalty to Hartman because refs want 4on4. Same thing against redwings. WTF is that. The team that does the penaltys should get punished not rewarded. Instant replay, whats that.

  9. Something is wrong with Toews. He must have injured himself playing for Canada. Enough of that shit!
    I have a question: Why can’t McNeill get time up here. Lesser talent does. Is his entire game that shitty? Why keep him at all if he’s so bad?

  10. I thought the Hawks played fairly well tonight but it came down to Dubnyk was better than Crawford.

    It’s still a work in progress and it probably will continue to be until around the TDL. Q likes to tinker and that often leads to less cohesion than would be if he kept things the same. But, that’s his thing so as fans we can complain about but there’s nothing to do except accept it and hope his tinkering will pay dividends heading into the playoffs. Nothing new.

  11. TAB, I think you missed a stat? A big topic on this site is the DOT. Kero was 7 for 9 and he does not make 3M.
    Two years ago everyone was crying to keep Kruger and give him the money. Now it’s, hope Vegas will take him and be free of the 3M.
    It also looks like Kane does not want to hear the same noise about his salary that 19 is receiving.

  12. I like that 67 is good at faceoffs. Throw out numbers from WAS noshow/for everybody. Kero is around 50% and can/could do better, hes going agasint top centers now being in Krugs spot.

  13. I’m not panicking right now. It’s a long season. The Wild are extremely hot as is Dubnyk by himself. I agree with the earlier post that it was a close game and that Dubnyk was perhaps a little better than Crawford. And, that bounce around the boards behind the net right to Pominville …. well that crap unfortunately happens.

    The Blackhawks were not perfect but their performance, especially Kane’s, was a good bounce back from the abysmal performance against Washington. The second half of the season is going to have 3-4 less games for the Blackhawks and a 3-4 more for teams like Minnesota.

    Go Blackhawks!!!!

  14. Once again one line does all the scoring, and Kane sees the problems with this team. And yes he did call out the veterans on the team. Toews play is not good right now and it is affecting the whole team. Hossa was playing great until he was paired with Toews now nothing. All you people that keep saying we are first in the conference and on top of the central, Well That Ship Has Sailed and it’s going to get worse if Stan sits on his hands. The rest of the league is passing the Hawks by while we remember glory days that are long gone. And yes it appears the sky is falling.

  15. Seat 24 don’t disagree with some of the thoughts. (and didn’t see the last game) This team isn’t ‘elite’ but many times in the past few years ‘the sky is falling’ has been used and people end up eating their words. They are a good team that knows how to play in the playoffs.
    I also don’t think Hossa, who is a sure HOFer, and great role model for the team, should be given a pass. He can’t play at the level he did early on at his age–this is more of what to expect from him, with small periods of better play.
    If Toews is hurt at all he needs to take the time off at the break to rest. I’ve been most worried about 7’s play in many games. I think about him in 2015 and before, and how good he was.
    Kudos to the Wild for winning a game in Chicago after playing and winning the night before against the Stars. They’re playing like a legit Cup team.

  16. Did we pass the test Phil??????? B – i hope ,.,.,NO ,.,.,.,., Fail !!!,.,.,man i hate tests,.,.all that studying ,and drawing those x,s and arrows on the white board .

    Bring on the next test,.,.,GO HAWKS .

  17. The sky is not falling but Toews must get out of his funk if the team is to be successful. Hossa seemed to have good chemistry with Hartman and Vinny. I would reunite 38/48/81. I would think outside the box to try and get Toews going. I would put Motte and Schmaltz with 19. The challenge of taking the rookies under his wing may get him going. The fourth line would consist of 14/67/70.

  18. Well Hawkhead there were 2 parts to the Hawks weekend test. A big F and warning of double secret probation for the Caps mess Friday. I agree with your B- last night. Hawks in yet another game decided by 1 goal. This team can play better, but could use some depth. I am concerned that Kane is logging insane minutes that will burn him out. I agree with the idea that this Hawks team remains a work in progress. I am not getting to high or low game to game although the Caps pounding Fri was pure pain to watch.

    Crow had little help on all 3 Wild goals. Hawks played well enough to win but key lapse and bad luck on game winner cost em. Dooby beat them when it mattered. Kane shot release last night was lightning fast. Still waiting for Toews to find his game. We know it’s there, but you can just feel his frustration building.

    Wild are on a roll. Dooby will be tired by the time playoffs come around as BB will ride him to hard getting the team there.

    Let’s Go Hawks!

  19. Crosby struggled big time early last year and bounced back. Toews can too.

    I don’t know what it takes but I assume it’s around confidence, a positive attitude and figuring out how to have fun again. He is under a ton of pressure with his salary, low stats and the “C”.

    While I don’t think his LW has been his problem, it may take a new LW to help him bounce back.

  20. Toews-Hossa regularly draw the toughest defensive assignment on the roster, which cannot be undersold. Meanwhile, the 72-15-88 line torches people regularly and Panik & Hartman are off to good, albeit inconsistent, starts.

    I have no issue w/ the Hawks skating seven defensemen on Sunday because they’ve been skating 10 forwards all season. As long as Tootoo & Desjardins are collecting paychecks, teams don’t have to worry about/respect their five shifts per night. It was good to see Schmaltz, even in limited action, again on Sunday and I would hope to see Tootoo & Desjardins out the door sooner than later to get Motte back to Chicago.

  21. It was just a matter of time before the Wild caught the Hawks and with 4 games in hand too! Thanks fine I’d rather have the Hawks finish 2nd or 3rd. That’s far down the road anyways. Toews will continue to get the benefit of the doubt and he has afforded himself to do so but cleary his game suffered. In a cap league the Hawks can’t afford for him to be average. The Hawks will go as far has he takes them!

  22. Lets get one thing straight Jonathon Toews is no Sydney Crosby. One player can not win the Cup but one star player playing like shit can keep you from winning. This is the ultimate team sport and the Hawks need their stars to play like stars.

  23. The league is catching up to the ageing Hawks core. Wild have won 8 in a row against our Hawks, guess they have figured them out.

  24. Nothing against anyone, in terms of FW depth were going to add a good FW at deadline/when Krugs comes back and 64 or 8 that’s an entire line right there. Which is enough to roll 4 lines and gets better quality depth at FW. We have been deeper at D and really good goalies. Team game/normal Blackhawks possession game has to be better when we have that with the good/deep group of Defenseman/Goalies.

    Want to bank as much space as possible and well make the trade/moves between games 50-60. When Krugs comes back and the FW can settle in normal positions, Hartman/Hoss and Mooser/Panik combos were good when we started to play better (SAJ road trip). Think its better to have Hartman/Hoss a couple games before or after Krugs comes back not at the same time.

    19 needs 3 good FW on line, since 10/19/81 or 20/19/81 he hasn’t been as good/normal. Having a really good center for 2nd line is awesome for 88/72 but Kaner was able to do it for all those yrs without that. Get John Wayne a good FW now.

    Its night and day when we play good/have depth in how good or not we look. Fine line.

  25. With 56 giveaways on this season, it is time to trade the slow ass #7 and his overpaid and under performing contract for a forward with a scoring threat, like #92 in colorado! Seabs, do us all a favor and retire already!!!

  26. Burns leads the league with 93
    Erik Karlsson has 61 for 2nd
    John Carlson- 60
    Seabrook-56
    Byfuglien-54

    Every one of em are bums.

  27. Forsling needs minutes. As 7th December he wouldn’t get minutes here. 300k difference in salary as well.

    Both Desjardins and Tootoo can be waived and have their whole salary come off the books. Part of Krugers problem is he’s been saddled with those 2 guys.

    Anyone think Schmaltz may have been recalled as a possible showcase?

  28. Schmaltz was recalled because Q is starting to realize Tootoo and Desi are useless offensively. Stan moved up in the draft several years ago to get Schmaltz ahead of St. Louis. To give up on Schmaltz in this short of time would be idiotic. I believe he has the most upside potential of all the young guys.

  29. Kruger hasn’t played w/ Desjardins and Tootoo for virtually the entire season; he has all of 2 goals, that’s 4th line material. Frolik made him look a lot better than he truly is. He is producing like Desjardins and/or Tootoo should. Those two make $750k to $800k.

    Kruger’s problem is he isnt even worth half his $3M+ cap hit. Vermette & Danault combined make $500k+ less than Kruger. Vermette chose not to sign here this past summer b c of Q. Kruger is a Q pet, Vermette isnt. Who wouldnt trade Kruger for Vermette straight up?

  30. Good stats on the takeways obviously amount of ice time is a huge factor there. Can’t see schmaltz being showcased too much potential and cap friendly salary for next year. To pickup the names being mentioned jvr would be $960,000 cap hit at trade deadline and 1.6m feb. 1st landeskog would be 1.258 hit at deadline and 2.1m feb. 1st.

  31. Jay on the Score tonight said the Hawks have enough cap space to trade for a player making $5.3 million. I was shocked by that. It also means Bowman can get a pretty good player as it looks like the Blues in round 1 of the playoffs again.

  32. Both players can be waived and all of their cap hits go bye bye. I’m not saying he was being showcased. But trading Schmaltz doesn’t mean you’re giving up on the kid either.

    Deadline space after the Schmaltz recall is 3.3 million.

    Personally, I think it’s best to take the space and apply it to bonuses overages. You keep prospects and can breathe better in the offseason. Just because they have the space doesn’t mean they should use it. We’ve seen this team go through stretches where they can compete with anyone. Anything can happen in the playoffs where they have enough internally to fill holes and make a run. What’s the last deadline deal where you can say the buying team won?

    The problem with the top line is not the lack of a 6 million dollar winger. Toews hasn’t lost his skill. He had 2 bad games no doubt. But he really looks like he’s pressing. He still gets his chances but he has a case of Vinny Hinostroza syndrome…where he’ll fumble the puck. It does look like some of the guys are already at their all star break vacation.

    Stay the course. Save your assets. Unless it’s a low risk scenario. Teddy Purcell? 14 points in 15 AHL games, 1.6 cap hit. 43 pts in 76 games last year with mostly the oilers.

  33. My eye test- tells me Toews is losing more battles on the boards versus past years…
    He also is pouting more and more… and looking at refs… I have no stats to back that up of course- just noticing it more and more…

    Let’s hope he is still fighting thru the injury that kept him out… and not the start of decline for a warrior- who has a ton of miles

  34. Without kruger in the lineup toews has alot bigger defensive responsibility taking more defensive zone starts and less offensive zone ones making it harder to get the offense going too. Anisimov has worked on his faceoffs but still under 50% and kero although showed high numbers last night he still sitting around 44 or 45% which is a long way from filling the void kruger leaves. Kero playing well but he hasn’t shown yet he can be a go to guy for big draws yet. When kruger gets back hopefully 19 will get his offense going because between his own injury and picking up the bigger defensive role he hasn’t really had a opportunity to give his offensive game what it needs to put up his usual numbers.

  35. Springfield, Theres lots and lots of games left 45-82. MIN was ahead of us by 4 games (we should have won that game and it would be 2) instead its 6 now. Not counting games in hand (say they split those) we have a favorable sch in the next 15 games and they play us 3 times in that.

    We only need to beat them 2 games to 1 and get one more win then them and one less loss then them in those 15 games/game 60 area and were 2 games behind them with games 60-80 to go. Theres so many games left its not funny.

    As good as WAS and MIN look now (and have for 10-20 games) most if the top 10 teams (MON/RAN/CLB/PIT/CHI) have had a really good stretch already like those two just did/are now. Everyone of those teams then a rough patch afterwards. Its funny that WAS and MIN did pretty good in in the first 10 games then didn’t between 10-25, then had there good stretchs between 25-45.

    Ups and downs, those teams did good to start then didn’t then had those kind of good stretch and now there up for a rough patch. I see teams that have taken their licks in the last 10 or so games to do better again.

    EDM/CAL have a easier sch then WIN/DAL/NAS and could keep those teams out of playoffs. If NAS and those easier sch teams (EDM/CAL) can stay in range of STL they might not make playoffs like LA didn’t a yr ago or so. I see NAS doing better in games 40-60. I still cant believe how ANA/STL havnt done as good as they are yet/at game 45 (they been around 6 over .500 for a long time/until recently got to 9 and 8).

    For as shitty as some things look recently were in the 1 or 2 seed (MIN/CHI) for conference (SAN has slipped a little/ANA/STL not too far behind) and based on the ebb and flows were going to have a better record then MIN in games 45-60.

  36. Ernies right on the numbers and we will have between 3.3-5.3m when Krugs comes back and we have which ever guys go to Rockford. Roll with 21 on 23man as much as possbible.

  37. Good game. I’m actually more encouraged with this loss than after a lot of our wins. Some bum luck, but I can see how this team can gel now.

    Hartman and Panik looked good. Very good. Their performance recently (excl. Caps game) has been above-average NHL 3rd line in my book.

    If some other young guy could just manage to get Toews going, this team has three solid lines. Then Marcus “Ice Flip” Kruger anchors the 4th line, whatever Q cobbles together.

    Ernie’s Schmaltz showcase point is interesting. We’re two forwards short of a sufficiently deep forward roster to make a serious run. Hopefully more kids start producing or someone comes via trade.

  38. I agree Travis winning this game would have been great but at least the compete level was there. Let’s not forget this Minny team just torched the best goalie in the world (Price) for 7 goals recently.

  39. Wall-you can’t be defended when you sink to the same low (almost). Can’t tell who’s hooking who anymore.

  40. Tab- I certainly didn’t have stats to back up my observations on Hossa and Panik- before the season… after watching practice/commenting on what my eyes watched… seems like that one worked out….

  41. re: Ernie, last successful deadline trade.

    It’s gotta involve one of those Kings acquisitions, right? How about Gaborik to the Kings in 14? The follow-up contract extension not so much, but at the time that trade was killer.

    Or Carter to the Kings in ’12?

  42. Was an open ended question Travis. But I’d have to think that sounds about right. And the thing with Carter was he had term left. Hell, he was in the first year of an 11 year deal so it wasn’t the typical rental. At the deadline the Hawks have been less than stellar. Oduya was probably the best add.

  43. The Vermette add was pretty good. He scored some big goals in the playoffs and his work at the dot was stellar. Compare the third line of Sharp/Vermette/ TT to what we have now for a third line.

  44. “Compare the third line of Sharp/Vermette/ TT to what we have now for a third line.” FUN IDEA! Let’s do it!

    Sharp ($5M) – Vermette ($1.75M) – TT ($894,167)
    vs
    Hartman ($863,333) – Kero ($667,500) – Panik ($875,000)

    Sharp-Vermette-TT = 19 goals, 19 assists, 38 points
    vs
    Hartman-Kero-Panik = 21 goals, 18 assists, 39 points

  45. Travis, thats the thing were pretty close to being deep at FW and we know were solid in other areas. Being deep at FW makes the others areas better as well. We just have to do it like this every yr because of Salary Cap. although the elc guys are going to get better each yr and we can keep everybody (basically) each yr going forward. Need to find a way to add at deadline and save as much for player bonus. We could add a 1.3m (2.6 at 50% retained) and have 1m towards bonuses.

  46. 2017 season- Panik/Kero/Hartmann- 98gp- 39 points
    2015 season- TT/Sharp/Vermette – 102gp- 52 points

    2015 playoffs- TT/Sharp/Vermette- 61gp- 32 points

  47. Morrison just to say you may know but to figure cap hit at deadline divide the cap hit for the year by 186 the number of days in the season and multiply by days left in season whicb would be 42 on feb. 28th. If acquired earlier the number of days increases and makes hit bigger

  48. I appreciate you pointing out that we’re looking at the 2015 third line, Hawks1961….

    2015 Season: Sharp ($5M) – Vermette ($3.75M) – TT ($894,167)
    2017 Season: Hartman ($863,333) – Kero ($667,500) – Panik ($875,000)

    Using this theory, $7.25M would buy you 13 points.

    Welcome to the salary cap era, kids. In case you’re new to the NHL, teams can’t buy the best roster on the planet like Detroit did in the 1990s any more. The fact that the Hawks are basically breaking even in point production for a fraction of the cost is why the Hawks have a second and third Cup under Bowman. You can’t afford to keep everyone.

    Obviously I’m not saying Kero is the defensive center Vermette is, but the blanket statement that the third line doesn’t hold up against what the Hawks used to have simply doesn’t work. Sorry.

  49. Besides Oduya, I’d have to say that the Hawks haven’t done well at the deadline.

    FTR, I still stand by the Ladd deal last year. It didn’t pan out but I’d make that deal again. But this year, with more bonuses looming, I’d be just as happy to stand pat and hope that 1) Hartman and Panik remain consistent, and 2) one or two more youngsters put things together.

    There have been games where Rasmussen and Schmaltz won way more pucks than they lost. If those two can do it more consistently, watch out…

  50. So we’re forgetting Vermette was a scratch in a few games? He was exactly 50% at the dot in the regular season. 58.9 in the playoffs. He had 10 points in 39 total games.

  51. I remember that Ernie. That was Q’s “fresh legs game”. The Hawks got whipped and TT and Vermette were reinstated.

  52. Ian, yea its 186 days. Just had a basic thought of using 1m towards player bonus (which I think is not prorated/so that 4m of the prorated) leaves 1.3m/2.6 50% for adding a guy and taking care of 1m of the bonuses. ER and I are good at the numbers, Ernie is better. It wasn’t a specific correct number just the thought process.

    Would like to have the exact number if we keep 8 (or 64/same cap hit) up and have a guy go to Rockford instead of him and also when 16 comes back have a guys go to Rockford and roll with 21 on 23man again (for as much as possible). What would we have at deadline and some examples of 1m used towards bonuses we would have this, and so on (using .500, 1m for bonuses… this much for deadline) Because with 8 up and someone else in Rockford and another when 16 comes back we could have more then 5.3m (prorated) at deadline.

  53. If schmaltz went down again after jets game last before allstar break say that would be $925,000 for 33days till deadline. The cap is averaged daily so if you multiply that and divide by 144 the number of days in season till deadline it should work out to roughly $212,000 more cap space

  54. Schmaltz daily hit is 5,138.88×33 days after Winnipeg game to deadline=169,583 in savings.

    If he’s sent down after Winnipeg to April 9th (end of season) that’s 73 days.

    Daily hit x 73= 375,138

  55. Basically what I was wondering/referring to was if 8 is up and a another guy to Rockford instead the differences between .925 and a guy whos .500/.600 or a little higher and having another guy in addition to that when Krugs come back to roll with 21 on 23man for as much as possible to use what we want for deadline and then enhance save as much as possible for bonuses. Get both while were at it.

    8 in Rockford we had 5.3m
    8 up and a .500/,600 guy in Rockford instead, its less then 5.3m
    but
    when Krugs comes back another guys, its more then 5.3m

    That’s the number I am looking for.

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