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Duncan Keith Placed On LTIR

On Wednesday morning, the Blackhawks announced they have placed defenseman Duncan Keith on LTIR.

Keith had successful surgery to repair a right knee meniscal tear on Tuesday, and is expected to miss up to six weeks of action. Moving him to LTIR opens up some cap flexibility as the Blackhawks look to address a group of defensemen that needed help before losing the future Hall of Famer.

At the morning skate, Chicago’s blue line saw Brent Seabrook with Viktor Svedberg, Trevor van Riemsdyk with Niklas Hjalmarsson and Trevor Daley with David Rundblad. Michal Rozsival was at practice but is not yet physically ready to return.


50 thoughts on “Duncan Keith Placed On LTIR

  1. I hate to suggest this because I love darling, but with the blue jackets goalie struggles, would there be any chance of getting a solid defenseman for darling? Probably not considering their d is the real problem, but just throwing it out there

  2. ^ If they add someone via trade, the money will need to work out vis-a-vis the salary cap. They only have Keith’s $5M to play with until he comes back. So anybody they add would need to go when Keith comes back, OR someone else would need to go.

    They were tight up against the cap (minimal room) with Rozsival on LTIR and Svedberg up. Rozsival is due back soon … like month’s end or maybe somewhat into November. Since Keith is now on LTIR, they obviously have enough room to bring Rozsival back to active AND keep Svedberg, plus more room (about $4.3 M) for a temporary guyuntil Keith returns … unless they move some other money.

    Darling makes peanuts, relatively speaking. Moving him doesn’t make much sense because it doesn’t free up money. They need to move Bickell and we see how that’s going. If they want to trade for a decent defenseman they plan on keeping after Keith returns from LTIR, they need to move money.

    They might try to get a waiver exempt guy with upside but the question becomes, why would some other team trade a guy like that? Everyone is looking for cheaper players, almost everyone anyways.

    This roster shuffling, if any, will be as much money driven as it is personnel driven.

  3. Even if there was a thought of trading Darling that would just open another can of worms he’s our only quality backup. If Crawford got hurt we would be up the creek. Is there any possibility of a trade with Bickell and O’Neill for some defensive help. You have to be careful because everyone knows the position the Hawks are in. We’ll just have to be patient and let Stan do his work. Go Hawks!

  4. Speaking of the Blue Jackets, I wonder what else will happen there now that John Tortarella has been named the coach. Player personnel going to change as well? That will be interesting to watch unfold.

  5. Uuuuurgh those pairs make me want to cry! This is going to be a long season ;-(

    You can’t trade Darling because you have Leighton and Vistentin. Vistentin (again in a very limited sample) has looked BAD. Chew on this, during the offseason the Hawks had Crow, Darling, Raanta and Nilsson. 4 goalies currently on NHL rosters. Just saying.

  6. They had to trade Raanta and Nilsson. Raanta would’ve had to clear waivers to be sent down and likely would’ve been claimed. Nilsson did not want to come over from Europe to play in the AHL, that’s why the Islanders traded him in the first place.

    Blackhawk fans have to hope the two players they got for the goalies work out (Ryan Haggerty & Liam Coughlin).

    You do not want to trade Scott Darling anyway. Goaltending wins and they have an excellent tandem, plus Darling is cheap for two years.

    Visentin has played one game, got smoked, but I give him a pass. It was his first start in 14 months or so, plus their defense down there has not come together yet.
    If Visentin is playing awful in a month, then maybe it’s worry time.

  7. Still waiting for Tabs next picture headline ” Bickell Problem Solved”. That would relieve a world of problems. Maybe Stan should send his dad to go visit Brian Burke in Calgary ( with a generous expense account) and remind him of the virtues of truculence over a bottle of Scotch.

  8. Quenneville today saying any trades to bring someone in is “not likely”. Says the group they have is what they’re going with for now at least.

    Welcome to the cap world. Svedberg and Rundblad will get their extended auditions, at least until Roszival and/or Cumiskey are ready to go (2 weeks or so??)

  9. I don’t think Bryan Bickell provides much truculence. He’s big, but you gotta beg the hell out of him to play the way he needs to play.

  10. Bickell IMO today is not an NHL player, he does have an NHL contract which is what is problematic. No NHL team is willing to take him on at this stage. He might get a sniff if he was an min salary contract, but really anything else is unlikely. The Hawks are likely stuck with him until that contract runs out.

    When you are upset with Bickell I recommend putting in your 2013 Stanley Cup championship DVD and watching that

  11. Here is what I said about Bickell in 2013 after the contract

    “At this stage I keep asking myself is Bickell capable of putting up consistant offensive numbers and the answer is I don’t know but I hope so, however having a guy produce in the playoffs is VERY important. 4 million is a HEFTY raise. So I was looking at a former Hawk Troy Brower. The reason I’m looking at Brower as a comparision is they are “similar” players however Brower might have more skill and Bickell might have more strength. Brower makes 3.6 million dollar and signed a 3 yr 11 million dollar contract. As a Hawks fan you just hope Bickell figured it out this season and can continue to produce, but Bolland didnt produce all season and was being paid 3.5 million.”

    2 years later, I’d rather have Troy Brower

  12. Ernie-Thats what the Scotch is for! Ok…how about the angle that “the kid just needs a change of scenery” and “do a pair of old warriors like ourselfs a favour and I’ll owe you one”. ( keep pouring drinks )

    SSHM- I have the last 2 minutes of our stunning 2013 Cup win right on my desktop…watch it all the time, never ceases to amaze.

    Can we not boot him upstairs in some executive/ambassador type thing and be done with his player role?

  13. I guess I’m too young too appreciate a fine scotch. Just found whiskey recently, which ironically is what I was drinking ( heavily) the day before I needed my appendix out. I suppose it’s time to make a switch.

  14. Put some cash in a brown paper bag.

    With Dunks injure for 4 or so wks. This reminds me of when when Hoss got back from injury (2010) sometime on the long road trip in Nov. and it took the team to another level.

  15. Hossa’s first game, is that the game where he caught the puck, dropped it, then shot it before it hit the ice?

  16. Nettle Creek- Ya, Torts to the BlueJackets, thats a real headscratcher. His antics and nonsense bring a lot of media attention but overall teams seem to sort of go downhill over time. I’m sure Saad will be calling his mamma in short order seeking some loving assurances because you sure won’t get it from him. Maybe they need the hype and loopy showmanship to shore up interest. IMO its a bad way to go for that franchise.

    Ernie- you all healed up now? No complications or further troubles?

  17. looks like they are far from ‘trusting’ Daley. I guess another way to put it is that van Riemsdyk is performing like they always though he will.
    Still have to rely on Daley until Keith comes back. If he can’t get it done, I can’t see how they’re ever going to get there after Keith returns. If you don’t step up when Q needs you to step up you’ll end up on the wrong side of the curve and that’s a difficult task to revert with Coach Q running the ship.

  18. All good mining man, Although apparently there’s some debate whether or not I was “good” before. Put me back a month building my house but oh well. To anyone that says they want to rid themselves of any non-essential internal organs….this was a $30,000 procedure! Almost stroked out when I saw that. Luckily Im smart enough to have health insurance

  19. Much better effort, and results, from Rockford last night. 3-2 win and they handily outshot Iowa and Mike Reilly.

    Tanner Kero had two goals, Mashinter the other. Kero’s two goals were fortunate, the first was from a sharp angle off the wing that got through the goalie’s wickets. The second was a dump in which took a funny bounce off the end boards and came right out to Kero who was hustling in and buried it into an empty cage.

    Ice Hogs were tighter defensively and did a good job protecting a one goal lead down the stretch.

    Small but positive step for the Ice Hogs …

  20. It seems pretty early in the season for the Blackhawks to be making trades just yet to replace #2’s space on the ice. Agree with an above post that the Svedbergs et al will get the extended audition. Bickell doesn’t look like he’s going anywhere, but I do like some of the things he’s done early on, vertigo or not.

    As for Tortarella, the Blue Jackets had to send personnel/picks to Vancouver as part of the compensation, since Vancouver had him under contract still after his 5 year deal only lasted one year. That’s like salt in a wound that they inflicted themselves. Unless that guy’s time off really paid some benefits, there could be some real weird times in Columbus. Full line brawls might be fun to watch, though, as long as it doesn’t happen against Chicago.

  21. 2 more thoughts re: imtgrill’s brilliant “I hate to suggest this because I love darling, but with the blue jackets goalie struggles, would there be any chance of getting a solid defenseman for darling?”

    1) If they traded Darling, who’s the back-up goalie? Quenneville said he only wants to run Crawford out there 60-65 games. Who starts the other 20-25% of the season? Michael Leighton?

    2) Who are the Blue Jackets trading to get a “solid defenseman” to trade for Darling? They don’t have any.

    Just a quick reminder: if you’re going to “just throw it out there,” at least THINK before you toss.

  22. Tab, he said it about both. He said “this is our group” and said there’s nothing brewing on the trade front.

  23. Svedberg’s chance, it is the Lou Gehrig story all over again…NOT!

    I understand developing players, but those players have to have fundamental skills. How much can you develop a player’s skating and speed? Svedberg is slow and does not skate well. To me, I don’t see much upside, but…

    The Hawks are really in a quandary. They have limited options. They can’t dump Bickell further aggravating their poor cap position. How many years are left on his deal? The prospect camp seems pretty bare further limiting their personnel moves and ability to dump Bickell with a sweetener. They certainly can’t afford to dilute the NHL roster with a sweetener to move Bickell. Anyone suggesting moving Shaw has to step back and rethink that idea. He is a bigger part of this team then many here are giving him credit.

    Stan Bowman has done a fantastic job the last several years, but it sure looks like he will have to be close to a miracle worker to pull something off this time around. I am sure the wheels are turning and working overtime.

    Looks like we have to make do with what is in the bare cupboard. That includes using Svedberg. Buckle down for the bumpy ride. Hopefully someone steps up in this opportune time and surprises us all.

    Go Hawks!

  24. This year and next are left on Bickell’s deal.

    If anyone had seen Svedberg a year ago in Rockford, you would notice leaps and bounds improvement from then. Something clicked for him the last 20-30 games down there last year.

    Does he have a ways to go? No question. Will he make mistakes? Yes. Does he have what it takes to be a contributor as a bottom pairing defenseman? The Blackhawks think so.

  25. Agree with Hof/Tab on Svedberg…

    I actually didn’t think much positive or Negative ( in early Pre-season- a little negative)…
    Biggest negative is slow/agility in transition from O end to D end….

    BUT- he actually has made significant progress since those games in the D zone, and standing up guys at Blue line ( he will still get torched there from time to time- Like Rosey does)… He is slow – agility wise… but his length makes up for it in D zone (where he doesn’t need to move too much)… BUT- he is NOT John Scott slow!!! or Brunette slow!!!

    And- he shows signs of a brain/improvement versus Clendenning- (who seemed to get dumber as he played more!!!)

    Ideal- no! but improving – yes…

  26. Svedberg as an 20 minutes/night guy is what scares everybody but as a 15 minute/night 6th defenseman, he is more than serviceable. His advantage will always be a big reach and the fact that most players are not prepared for that. (That’s Chara’s big advantage also) As long as he improves on his gaps and is spotted properly, I see him as an 8-10 year guy with the Hawks.

    TVR, Daley, Svedberg are all break-even or better so far for the Hawks this year. Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson are all below water (for various reasons)

    If the Hawks can survive the Rundblad experience, they will be just fine going forward. Give those new guys a chance, give Q some coaching leeway (he did play defense in the NHL for 12 years) and this group will be playoff worthy come spring.

    My only wish is that Pokka were here instead of Rundblad. If there are mistakes to be made, give the time to a guy who has an actual future in the league.

  27. Tab, is the fact that Bickell hasn’t been sent to Rockford that the Hawks are hoping his play improves enough that he’s tradable. Like the lines you listed what about the defensive pairings.

  28. the fact that Bickell hasn’t been sent to Rockford means… I’m not sure the $950k cap savings is worth him going there & sucking up ice time that kids need to develop. As far as a trade, we can all hope & pray but the Hawks would need to find another club looking to dump salary and/or make room for a prospect to come up to make that happen.

    if Kris Russell (CGY) and/or Andrew Ference (EDM) were possible, they wouldn’t be awful additions to the bottom pair in a deal for Bickell + little else. The bigger issue imo is the Hawks not wanting/willing to eat salary for this year & next on Bickell.

  29. Hawkfacts, I am with you. I hope this provides some meaningful audition time for Pokka. We already have enough of a sampling in Rosy, Runblad, Cumiskey and Svedberg to get an idea what they currently bring at the NHL level. Not sure what other dman options we have in Rockford, but adversity always creates opportunity. It would be nice if someone from Rockford came up and took advantage of the opportunity and made the big club with their play.

  30. Personal observation, Pokka doesn’t look like he’s playing with a lot of confidence right now in Rockford. He handled the puck like a hand grenade a few times last night. Not a big deal really and they will give him lots of ice time to smooth things out, it’s not unusual for really young players to have ups and downs.

  31. Could the Hawks go one step further and bury Bicks in Indy thus not taking away AHL ice time from any of the Hogs?

  32. Re: Pokka

    attended several Hogs games last year… Hogs really dominated Puck and shots…
    so really hard to assess D guys- (cuz puck was always in O zone)…

    Pokka and Sved- both rarely made mistakes (once again- Hogs were dominating in games I attended)…

    But Pokka was bad- in Pre-season!!! he was a real negative to me… story is he is average speed/skater…. but makes up for it in IQ… I thought he was very timid/and slow thinking in NHL games…. Hope- it was nerves and “trying too hard/thinking too much to NOT make mistakes”… really wasn’t impressed…

    and I had nothing but nice things to say about him in Rock… mostly in O zone with solid shot that gets thru…

  33. Pokka is not going to be a difference maker at this time so better to let him develop with plenty of ice time in Rockford rather than skate high-pressure minutes in the NHL. The key to surviving without Keith will be the defensive support of the forward group and continued solid goaltending – please no more suggestions to trade Darling when we have one of the best tandems in the league right now. The Hawks forwards have historically been excellent at this so no reason to believe we won’t be successful. Lots of tight, lower scoring games which will serve us well later in the year. Also we need to pray that there are no more injuries to the thin d-corp.

  34. Tab, thanks for the info on the Bickell situation.

    Hof, is Paille playing for Rockford I see Dowell in the stats. Has anyone impressed you so far.

  35. ^Paille did not play last night, not sure why, did not hear he’s hurt.

    As far as players impressing, Tanner Kero jumps out because:

    – he’s good with the puck, it seems to follow him around
    – he seems to have a good 200 foot game (although still acclimating)
    – he hustles and plays hard

    The defense was better last night … it needed to be. Despite two iffy goals against, the Iowa goaltender was really good, made a lot of stellar saves.

    One thing I did notice was Rockford gave up very few odd man breaks, which is a good sign in terms of commitment to defense. Heard a guy who sounded like he was at their practice saying Dent and Osiecki were really drilling it in.

  36. I would like to see SB sign Lubomir Visnovsky for an interim replacement. I thought he did well on his PTO and might be a viable solution while Duncs is out.

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