Flyers Beat Lifeless Blackhawks

A packed house at the United Center left the building Thursday night wondering what exactly they paid for.

After 20 minutes of hockey the Blackhawks trailed 1-0 despite out-shooting the Flyers. The two teams put 12 combined shots on net in the first period, seven coming from Chicago.

The second period on Thursday, Oct. 24, 2019, might be the worst period of hockey played since Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane broke into the league.

Including the early years when there was no hope and Marty Havlat was the best thing since sliced bread.

It was that bad.

Claude Giroux scored 59 seconds into the second period. At that point the game was effectively over.

The Blackhawks had two power plays in the final six minutes of the second period while down two goals.

Chicago was officially credited with one shot on net in 20 minutes. At home.

To say the effort was pathetic is giving it too much credit.

The Hawks came out and flung 16 shots on net in the third period and Brandon Saad brought the Hawks within one early in the period but reality slapped Chicago in the face. When the final horn sounded – nearly as loud as the booing from the paying crowd – the Hawks were on the losing end of a 4-1 score.

Making matters worse, the comments from head coach Jeremy Colliton sound like a man who has no answers.

We’re not going to waste space with pretty shot charts or talk about individual stats or ice time. This was a garbage effort in the season’s eighth game. The Blackhawks are 2-4-2 and are playing like a team that is happily headed toward significant organizational changes in the not-too-distant future.

74 thoughts on “Flyers Beat Lifeless Blackhawks

  1. Terrible effort. Soft and slow. Out quicked. Out-muscled. Out-executed. Out-cared.

    Biggest disappointment of the season by far – Toews. He has reverted back to his 2017/18 play and it’s not only because he hasn’t scored. He has played lousy defense. He has had lousy puck management. He is lousy at faceoffs. He is basically lousy at every phase of the game.

    I hope Colliton has the gonads to bench him next game. Is he the only problem – of course not – there are many candidates for well deserved criticism, but Toews is supposed to be the leader of this team and more is expected of him than he is giving. Period.

    Sit Gustafsson too. If Gustafsson can’t score he shouldn’t be playing.

    Nylander-Dach-Kane
    Cat-Strome-Shaw
    Saad-Kampf-Kubalik
    Smith-Carpenter-Caggiula

    Keith-deHaan
    Maatta-Seabrook
    Koekkoek-Gilbert

  2. Do they want Mike Keenan back? How do you not wanna play for a nice guy like Colliton. They’ll be out of the playoffs by Thanksgiving and Crawford and or somebody else might be the head coach by then.

  3. Bingo Ian.

    Colliton said, in relevant portion, “we have good players… our players are good enough”… He’s correct. The players as a whole, more often than not, are not fans of his as their head coach bc they realize he’s in way over his head, etc. As a whole, they don’t respect him on a professional basis.

    Savard was fired w a good team after a bad start. Q was fired w a bad team after a good start turned into an average start. This coach has a team somewhere in the middle — closer to good than bad — that’s had a bad start and just wasted a seven game homestand to start the season.

    It’s not Colliton’s fault he was offered the job and took the job and made his family (he has four little kids) $3 million bucks. That’s a little lotto ticket for someone like him. He was able to buy a $1M house.

    This is all on Bowman, 1000%. He fired Q to hire a new coach, and he chose someone like Colliton? What a joke. On all the Hawks’ fans. And a disservice to the players as well.

  4. Desire? This coach is a fool! He actually had Kane playing with Kubalik and Kampf????? Think about that? Every other team in the NHL has there stars playing together while he has them playing with AHLers like Cagg, Kubalik, Nylander, Kampf? Idiotic!
    Fire this Div 2 Swedish no clue coach and fire the bad accountant, Mr. Bonus, bonehead arrogant GM and the Marketing dude McDo!
    Very easy to make lines!
    20 19 88
    12 17 11
    65 77 92
    15 22 8
    Kampf to Rockford!!!!
    Trading Perlini who is better than 92, 91, 15, 8, & 64 tells you the bad job this GM continues to make. $5million on a backup goalie? How much for Carpenter?
    Nick Schmaltz top scorer of Arizona! Danuat playing on top line in Montreal. Joku playing 17 minutes a game for Buffalo.
    If this coach does not go, then this GM will make a desperate move and trade Kane if he has his way.

  5. The GM sucks. Start with firing him !!!! This team is going no where with his handling of the trades Picks and Cap. Hmmm Q looks good over there in the sunshine state .

  6. We need to wake up after one of the games (hopefully tomorrow a.m.) and hear on the news or read on our technology

    “Blackhawks Fire GM Stan Bowman”

  7. What a shitshow. Can’t really single out bad performances as there were so many. Saad about the only bright spot, Strome looks absolutely lost. Our PP and much of the offense seems to revolve around passing the puck. Then we finally shoot with no one screening the goalie. Not sure what the answer is as it just may be that our core can’t compete at the highest level anymore and the new guys need more experience. That would be a recipe for another lottery pick.

    The best performance of the night went to Eddie Olcyk who immediately called out both offsides that cancelled goals.

  8. How can Kane respect this coach, Kane an MVP, 3 time cup champion stuck playing with Kampf, Kubalik, Strome, Shaw????
    And Toews so far playing with perimeter champ Dcat and Cagg or Shaw? No respect by this clueless coach. Does JC know that Kane and Teows saved his interim job last year by playing together?
    Hawk fans deserve smarter people in charge not clowns.

  9. Yeah – what a surprise to hear the mob calling for Stan and Colliton being fired. Did you hear/read Colliton’s post game interview – who doggy. Said what needed to be said and I was happy to hear it. The players dogged it today – for whatever reason – and they are solely responsible for the piss-poor effort. Not Colliton and not Stan.

  10. Kampf should be in Rockford, just don’t see his game as NHL ready. He’s soft and has a poor shot – hands of stone too. Toews benched? I’d put Kane on the bench before him. And for the love of Chris Farley, play Saad with some talent. $6M dollar player on the 3rd line?

    Colliton is the NHL version of Matt Nagy. Pressing buttons without any thought process. Just hoping something works. Strome is a C, not a wing. Why did JC break him from Cat? Both are not scoring.

    And Koekoek to the rescue? You could put a Kampf jersey on him and I wouldn’t notice any difference.

  11. MS correct. Strome is lost without Debrincat. The entire purpose of the trade was to reunite Strome w Debrincat for Strome’s sake, and it worked like a charm. Kane and those two are dangerous every time they play together.

    Line combinations matter. Except to the coach. He says throw them in a hat and they just have to work hard.

    Good evening.

  12. I will say that Kampf has been good all year. I firmly believe that many NHL teams would be interested in a guy like him so let’s stop blaming a guy who is over-performing when a guy like 19 who is making $10m is off to such a weak start. Just sayin….

  13. Iceman – you missed Colliton’s point entirely – but that’s fine because it’s beat up on Colliton night.

  14. Ebony, I guess you have no idea either. So Dcat scores 40 goals playing with Strome.
    Toews scores 35 goals playing with Kane and you wonder why these guys don’t play for this coach. And then he has the guts to bench Toews? He should be fired just for that!!! And play Kane with losers like Kubalik and Kampf? Really?
    Are you watch the top teams? Is Ovie playing alongside AHLers? KHL drop outs? Is McDavid playing with CAGG or Kubalik? Is Marchand playing with Kampf? Is Matthews playing with Zack Smith?
    Oh, was Kampf ever drafted? Cagg ever drafted? How many NHL games has Nylander played? When was Kubalik drafted…which round…how old is he….Swiss league????? Oh yeah, great GM, great coach…?

  15. It’s easy for a coach to say what Colliton did. That’s surfacy talk. What I’d rather hear him discuss is his explanation for line combos.

  16. For Toews to suddenly be this bad I cant help but feel theres issues with him and Colliton. You just dont go that bad in 6 months.

    Colliton is in over his head. Brookbank and Mittel arent helping. Theres better coaches out there.

    Dach gets to waste his first year with this shit. “See Kirby? This is how the Hawks play. Were treated great here. Living the good life.”

    I can see Mcdonough yelling at Stanbo tonight saying this ship better turn around fast or can find himself out on his ass.

    Stanbo now looks for trading partners.

  17. Exactly Ebony, everyone has an opinion, thx. Denial is also a bad trait.
    Ask yourself what worked last year? Answer is simple 19 & 88 playing together and 12 & 17 playing together.
    Dach is an NHLer who can grow as a 3rd line center and has talent. Whatever JC says after the game is pointless because he can’t coach at this level, never did!
    Someone should ask him or you how many goals does Kampf have? How about Kubalik? How many assists? JC should answer why has he split up TOEWS & KANE? STROME & DCAT? And why does a $6million player like Saad play 3rd line minutes with AHL or ECHL players at best? Why Perlini who has more games, goals and assists than 91, 92, 8, and 64 combined not play on ths team?

  18. Colliton is a confidence killer.
    Strome = defeated.
    Gustafson = defeated
    Kane’s demeanor on the bench =defeated.

    So let me get this straight. On a 2 on 1, one of the best scorers in the league, Kane, passes up the shot and tries to saucer a pass to a kid, Caggiula.

    On another 2-on-1. Kubalik who Loves to shoot, pulls up and tries to saucer a pass to Saad.

    Gustafson skates to Center on the power play multiple times and immediately has his body seize up, whirl around and look to give the puck to Kane. Every Freaking Time.
    Duh. Like the Flyers don’t know this is coming ? My Rec league team could defend that. Just sit back and guard the blue line, 4 across.

    Colliton has no chops at the NHL level. None. Reassign him to Rockford. He is under contract and would technically have to accept the demotion OR break his contract and leave.

    Saturday, Carolina 5, Chicago 1.

  19. Hey Hull – “Ask yourself what worked last year”. Perhaps you weren’t watching but we sucked last year despite scoring a lot of goals. I don’t disagree with some tweaks to the lines but if key guys like Toews, Keith and Seabrook can’t compete at high levels you can make any changes you want and at best we will be mediocre.

  20. One more thing if “work ethic” is the key, then hire Daryl Sutter. That was his thing : work, work, work. If it isn’t working ? Work harder ! That was his mantra.
    Colliton acts like he has discovered the secret formula and nobody drinks the potion.
    Reassign him to Rockford to work with Derek King.

  21. Right on MS the best players have to be the best players, thats why they get the big contracts. Belittling and trashing the supporting players who are doing whats expected from them, shows a lack of understanding of the game.

  22. Listen Ebony, there is a reason why Kane and Toews are not performing….Because this coach is not qualified and cannot make lines. What’s so hard of getting atleast duos playing together, it’s a f…….ing no brainer. Benching Toews should get the coach & GM fired. They saved his ass last season otherwise he would never be in the NHL coaching a 3 time CUP champion. So, we go from Coach Q to this guy and people still think Bowman knows what he is doing? He lost lots of respect around the kleaue & in the room when he fired Coach Q’s best friend Mike Kitchen. Think about that for a second.
    11 (19 88)
    (20 77) 65
    (12 17) 92
    15 22 8
    Now imagine instead of spending all that cash on Lehner, we would have had a true NHL winger like James Neal playing alongside Teows and Kane or Strome & DCAT?By the way, you think Saarela’s brother will want to play for this GM?
    I said it last year, the only way Hawks win that Strome deal is if Perlini plays because Schmaltz is the better player!!! Apart from Crawford, we have an AHL, SWEDISH 2nd DIV. 2 coaching staff. That’s all on Bowman and his arrogance because he wants to look like a genuis but he is a fool.

  23. 1. Fire Colliton
    2. Get a coach that the players respect so we don’t have to watch what we watched tonight. Let the vet’s play on lines together, it’s better than what we saw tonight.
    20, 19, 88

    2,7
    3. If the team doesn’t make the playoffs, fire Stan.

    In the pregame, almost everyone said put Saad on the top line. I bet Toews telling Sharpie has something to do with that…. Thats where I’m at, at this point, talking about lines, minutes, stats, any other bs is pointless if the players won’t play for the coach or one another. You think a guy like Craig Berube didn’t light a fire under the Blues last year…… I’m glad the concessions don’t suck because there isn’t much going on, on the ice. Here’s to enjoying helmet nachos & Beer at the UC, if things don’t change.

  24. For those that attended the game, I read that the cover band, Ron Burgundys were horrible in the intermission. Were they really that bad? Lol

  25. If JC is fired, you have to fire Bowman. Are you going to trust the guy who fired Q and brought in JC to make a good choice. He fired Q saying the team needed a change then proceeds to bring in approx. 8 new faces because last yrs team wasn’t good enough.

  26. Ian, I guess you don’t get it? Saad is playing with Kubalik and Kampf who are AHL players at best. Saad was alone every shift! He had a empty net goal and a short handed goal until tonight when he played with dach and Shaw and actually got a pass to score on a breakaway.
    Is he not the number one power forward on this team? Throughout his career he has played top 6 minutes, so why has he not played top 6 on this team that has a roster with CAGG, NYLANDER KUBALIK, KAMPF? 2 CUPS by the way!
    Oilers where playing Caps tonight. Can you name the top 2 lines on each team that played each other?
    Can you answer how many goals and points Toews and Kane had last year playing together which essentially saved this coach’s career and got him a dumb Stan Bowman special 3 year contract? How many goals did Dcat get playing with his buddy Strome?
    So, why after game one in Europe did this genuis coach mess up the lines? Any why give Carpenter a 3 year contract?

  27. “The second period on Thursday, Oct. 24, 2019, might be the worst period of hockey played since Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane broke into the league.”

    Those were Tabs “right on” words from the recap. I think we all feel that. What a sh*tshow tonight’s game was. But, I think we need to take a step back with the calls for Colliton’s head, demotions, etc. And here’s why ….

    Only two nights ago this same team played some very good hockey against a very good team. Got one point when they should have had two. Showed some grit and consistency.

    Consistency is a key word here. The Blackhawks were indeed f*cking awful tonight. Just f*cking awful. About as bad as I’ve seen. And regardless of the talk by the post game radio folks and Colliton about the strong 3rd period …. that just not really true. Some of the biggest gaffs by Gustaffson, Keith et al, were in the 3rd.

    I don’t think we should be talking about the loss of the room by Colliton …. we need to talk about the general heart of the team’s veterans and whether they feel like showing up every freaking night to play hockey.

    Saad; Came to play
    Dach; Kid played hard, too bad he was on a squad of general loafers tonight
    Toews; A couple of bright spots but overall … meh
    Kane; Does he f*cking care anymore?
    Keith; Awful
    Gustafsson; As bad as Keith if not worse
    DeBrincat; Drank a bottle of NyQuil about a half hour before start time
    Lehner; Must have been some hot looking chicks in the stands, mind was elsewhere

    I could go on, but these guys need to have some pride and go out and play. This Flyers team was not a batch of hockey juggernauts. It comes down to the internal motivation of the guys to play game after game, regardless of the schedule, the way they should be playing as professionals.

    I’m not going to play the “we pay their salaries by going to the games and they owe us” game. They owe it to themselves, to their profession, to their personal pride. I think that when they come out and play hard under Colliton’s system they DO play well and put forth things to build off of. These players need to look at themselves, and take it upon themselves. Tonight they just got bullied by an average team. If they played with at least half of the passion they have for a lot of this short season (which, granted, hasn’t garnered much in the way of success) they could have won. I’m not putting this on Colliton, or even Stan. I’m putting this straight on the vets and their pride.

    They can and have played well under Colliton. It’s up to them to bring it. We can’t be knee-jerk after each game and call for this or that head. It’s up to the players to figure it out with the help of their coach. There may need to be a kick in the a$$ coming from someone, but these guys out to kick their own a$$ with their own foot.

    With all that said, tonight’s game was absolutely disgusting.

  28. Bang on Bobby9!
    Fire GM and Coach. These vets want to win. And they want to play with good players not AHL, undrafted, rejects of KHL or DIV. 2 SWEDISH leagues or CZECH or SWISS leagues….Seriously…. How can this coach defend not having Toews & Kane playing togther? Or Strome and Dcat? Or Kampf playing as a 3rd line center ahead of anyone? Or benching the captain? Seriously!!!!

  29. Everyone feeling better? Get it off your chests. Thanks Tab for a place to vent!!

    Top players make others around them into better players. Guys wearing letters are supposed to be leaders. Anyone fitting those descriptions that doesn’t like the team or the way it is being handled – walk into the front office and tell those people. Then demand a trade or explain what it is you need changed. Shut the freakin door to the locker room and start tearing some ass up in there. But talk about your own effort first. That’s leadership. Play hard and for the team or leave. You have a roll model to point at – he wears 20.

    Our so-called AHL players are putting in better effort than our $10m players. Not a recipe for success. Sit them if they don’t want to put out.

    I don’t like the line combos either and have voiced that. But with the effort of tonight – you can’t seriously think our studs earned their paychecks.

    MS and Ian and a couple others here I can agree with tonight. The rest of yas – not sure why you are willing to accept a piss-poor effort by the “best” players on the team. Night after night.

    We gave up six goals tonight to a lousy team. At home. Got lucky and had 2 taken back (correctly).

    Welcome to Chicago Robin Lehner. Consider your options at the end of the year, you know, like playoff opportunities.

    There are 23 guys in Rockford hoping their phone rings tonight. I say make a party line call and bring 3 up. Sit vets. Lots to choose from there.

  30. Hull 65 is right on the money on the line combos! Why would you not do what worked last year? Perlini needs to play on the second line with Dcat and Strome. Kampf killing Saad, he can have 10 goal with Towed and Kane. Why is Colliton resisting using the lines that worked before?

  31. Dan last year the team sucked, their stats came against alot of backup goalies because of their record nunber ones got rested. The 4 of them on the pp together can’t score when opposition has one less man on the ice. They need to become the teams best players again, like Saad did with his Ahl linemates.

  32. Put Cat-Strome-Kane together. Leave Kampf line alone. At least they generate chances. Stop catering to “Capt Serious”. He’s no more than a 3rd line center at this point.

  33. 92/8 19 91
    20 65 88
    12 17 77
    64 22 8/92

    Start with these lines. 20 65 88 was an unstoppable line against a damn good Kings team in 2014 and sparked our comeback which eventually fell just short in game 7 OT thanks to the always borderline ethics of a certain Justin Williams. But Saad and Kane flourished and played at higher levels than I’ve seen them play ever before and since when they had 65 centering them and causing havoc and distraction and puck retrieval like nobody’s business. I think that could re-ignite again. The top line I’m suggesting is partly because we know 19 and 91 have some chemistry and 92 has earned every bit of another chance at a top 6 opportunity. Also he has recently shown moderate chemistry with 91. I really think 8 has earned more of a higher spot look too and he has high end scoring ability that we really need to find a way to give him what he needs to start to show it so if 92 doesnt work on top line so well, swap 92 with 8. 3rd line is self explanatory. Get 17 back in the middle where he is comfortable setting up 12, let 77 learn on the wing. He’s 18, showing well so far but he is also already better by miles on the boards than Strome. He actually uses his size to his advantage physically even if not in a crushing hitting style. Strome doesn’t do that and struggles on the boards. 4th line Kampf is playing well enough to be on a 3rd line. This is a good problem to have. 22 looks strong so keep him in the middle and 8 or 92 have been showing up pretty much better than anyone not including 20 so they don’t deserve to sit right now. Perlini can wait. With all that said, agree effort sucked minus a couple guys. Not good enough especially by the leaders and that needs to change even if the lines didnt. But with all due respect Colliton, I have given reasons for my suggested line combos, still waiting for yours. For the record I like Colliton and his desired style of play but not his line combos so far. Lastly, as great as the Vegas effort was, lets keep in mind that was a team playing 4 in 6 and on the second of a back to back. Very tired but proud team that got spanked the night before (albeit with their backup newish goalie) and they were the ones on the road. They were there for the taking more than they will ever be again. Did I mention they were missing Tuch and Schmidt. Smh.

  34. After decades of mediocrity and disappointment following the’61 cup, (punctuated with the odd superstar), us Hawks fan were rejuvenated by the Kane and Toews era (~7-8 years and 3 cups!) where night in and night out the team was competitive. They were fun to watch, had a chance of winning every night and restored our faith in how a professional hockey team should/could play.
    I fear we are back in the post-cup doldrums! Not knowing who’s going to show up on any given night, nor how badly the outcome of the game might be…
    I only hope that when the diagnosis is finally uncovered, that the treatment plan can start- and we get our good health back! In the meantime, this illness is going to be very painful…
    GO HAWKS!!

  35. All the gnashing of teeth on this site is understood. With the Jets, Stars, and Wild all getting off to poor starts, the Hawks have a seven game homestand to separate from the pack. They pissed that homestand away. The Flyers are a capable team that may, or may not, make the Cup playoffs. They just ran the Hawks off the ice last night. It’s early, but the cautious optimism that I had about the Hawks this Summer is starting to wane.

  36. STAN MUST GO. We were fed bullshit hype. This team is going nowhere under him. If the Hawks must finish dead last to get him fired then so be it for as many years as it takes to rid ourselves of him.

  37. Based on what I saw in Prague, I had no interest in going to the UC last night. Flyers simply work harder than the Hawks do which in simplistic terms is what this Hawks team needs to bring EVERY game to compete. Last night in real terms was the hockey equivalent of a shit show by the home team. Can’t get worse really, and it should have been 6-1.

    Good comments by many, especially Big Indian and Silent Spot. Let er rip guys!

    Players mostly , coaches, management have to do some soul searching. Fans that spent hard earned money on tickets last night were flat out ripped off. The effort on the ice unacceptable. I don’t know if that was the worst showing in the Kane/Toews era, but it’s up there. Remember some horrible stinkers during the Dec swoon last year…The 2nd period WAS historically bad. PP last night remains in a free fall downtrend. Can penalties be declined?

    JC needs to bench players for a shift or two that don’t give a damn. This is a show me season for SB. His job should be on the block. Same true for MC D. Hawks fans deserve better. Carolina must be salivating to play this Hawks team that was a virtual no show last night from many players.

    Wow…

    Let’s Go Hawks!

  38. So, having had time overnight to digest…
    (I mean vomit)…
    Simply said: I absolutely cannot believe that the team that took the ice last night was the same team that played Tuesday.
    What. The. Hell?!??
    The Johnny-come-lately 2010 fans are flying off the bandwagon at a rapid rate and the UC will start to look like it did in the early 2000s if these guys don’t get their heads out of their collective asses.
    And by “these guys” I mean the players on the ice. The lack of effort is not a coaching thing. Its a desire thing.
    Yes, I think the top 6 needs to be changed and Strome needs to be back at C with DeBrincat and Kane. That line was fire.
    But you cannot tell me that this is all on JC (or Bowman).
    Players have to PLAY.

    Even though its from a baseball movie, I’m going to throw out a reference that I think fits perfectly: there was waaay too much lolligagging out there last night.
    Lolligagging in the neutral zone, lollyagging at the blue line,
    Lollygagging in front of the net.
    You know what that makes this team?
    A bunch of lollygaggers.

    Maybe Colliton needs to throw the sticks into the showers??

    Happy Friday, guys.

  39. Ebony – good post.

    Even my wife laughed at your post Stefanie! That is a classic scene in a classic movie.

    Maybe what we need is Raffi Torres to play against us and get the team to give a crap about each other. Someone took a run at Keith (I think) last year and it stirred up the team. Keith got tossed after going back at the player much after the skirmish had settled down.

    We best see a fired up group tomorrow afternoon.

  40. Wow 48 posts.

    Didnt see, prob good thing. Based on some words I skimmed across looks like we had the 5 games in 7 days sch affect us.

    If there was no effort kind of thing.

    Didint think that would happen to 4th or 5th though. I expected this kind of thing in some of them though.

  41. It goes hand in hand with sch.

    Theres no way you can play that good, really good, last 2 games and this. Just too many games in days. 5 in 7. Right after 2 in 11 and 2 in 7.

    It makes a difference.

    Like you said cant believe the same team. That is why.

  42. This is exactly why I always wait for games 6-10 to judge.

    With sch I am waiting for games 10-20, that will tell the story.

    Doesnt matter what happens games 1-10.

    I fully expect more games just like this and like the last 2, until we get into a rythem and with a normal sch.

  43. Well said Stefanie. I’d go as far as saying some of the Hawks players last night played like a bunch of jamokes.

    Yes, this Hawks team collectively better come ready to play hockey tomorrow.

    Let’s Go Hawks!

  44. So I guess we should expect to get our arses kicked again Saturday because we aren’t getting the proper scheduled time off. And then Sunday – OMG. We probably lose say 14-1.

    Why make excuses for that kind of play? There were reasons – not excuses. They sucked because they didn’t try. We lost to Vegas and they played the night before. We didn’t even play the day before losing to a POOR QUALITY Philly team. They showed up. We didn’t.

    Why don’t you go through the schedule and pick all of the perfect schedule dates for the Hawks so we know they will win those games. Then go through and pick the perfect schedule dates for their opponents so Colliton knows when the team won’t show up.

    Maybe the fans won’t either.

  45. The problem with Strome is that good players make the guys they play with better. If the only guy he can play with is Debrincat, then doesn’t that clearly suggest that he is not such a good player?

    I don’t dislike him, but his effectiveness really fell at the end of last year and then in the world championships, when he was playing with other good players (but not Debrincat), he was mediocre. He needs to raise his game a lot if he wants to stick past this year.

  46. Sad to say but this team is who they are, not very good. To many aging superstars way past their prime that seem to have lost their give a damn. Time for to realize that this group as it’s constructed is not even close to playoff caliber. Just might be time to make major moves.

  47. One game yes but old stories.
    Kane does look unmotivated, we’ve seem it before at times. He has 10.5 million reasons to play hard all the time. 19 also hasn’t played well-system, line mates, time? I can’t believe it would be effort but it looks like it. I think this team really needs a young, talented leader. The future ‘guy’. A Barzal, or Barkov type that holds the team accountable.
    Colliton may go but the players need to, as others have said. do some real soul searching.
    There is one person I’m now ready to see go-the GM. Time to move forward.

  48. The next game just notice how many times a player receives a pass standing still. This happens all the time on the PP. I feel they need to move without the puck instead of looking like statues, just an opinion.

  49. Earl what else can they do but stand at blueline because they make about five 20 ft drop passes before they get out of their own end. The opposition sits back and lets them waste valuable seconds doing this or waits for a lazy drop pass and picks it up and goes in for a good scoring opportunity, crazy.

  50. Doesn’t matter what the players say to the media, their performance on the ice speaks volumes. The leadership is pathetic, starting with the coach, down to Toews, Keith and Seabrook. This team looks like the shlubs from 2017-2018…piss poor effort from top to bottom…..so….when do we start talking about the top pick in the draft lottery ? Because that’s where the Hawks will be come April.

  51. 20 foot drop passes. Yep – that about sums it up!

    Make at least 3 guys stand still and then enter the zone. That’s a plan.

    I love the chaos caused when a defender gets in behind the first wave and won’t let the drop passes happen. The Hawks act like they have never been prepared for the most obvious defense against the drop pass entry.

  52. Yea those 20 foot drop passes drive me nuts too. They do it until Kane possesses it and then he takes it in.

    Sadly, they do it this way because he actually seems like the only one who can!

    And yes…them being static in the zone makes it wonderfully easy for the opponent to defend.

    But to have no shots and the opponent get better chances is absurd.

  53. You guys are the best with your similar views of these games.I know all of us commenting here probably have the NHL Package and view parts of other games.Pick whatever team you want at their worst point and no team is as bad and soft on the puck as this team and it has been going on for 3 years now.A NHL Team that gets outshot at home 13 to 1 in a 1-0 game at the time is amazing and deserves an immediate response from management.In my opinion TOEWS,KEITH,SEABROOK,GUSTAFSON should be slowly moved out.This mess is not the Coaches fault but a Darryl SUTTER type is needed to get this back to a NHL Product on and off the ice.

  54. Towes, Keith, Seabrook cannot be moved out for several reasons.
    1. Some fool gave them all no trade contracts.
    2. All of them look like shadows of their former selves.
    3. All three are getting older not better.
    4. Who would want any of them at their age or salary level?
    5. Hawk fans still believe the Stanley Cup window is still open for these ageing vets.
    6. If Bowman traded any of these guys he would be jobless.

  55. Other than Kanes rebound in Ot bouncing in off him, does anybody remember Toews even really trying to score this year. He did go hard to net on that one, so i guess scoring was on his mind. I can’t recall him hitting any posts, crossbars or goalies robbing him, deking out goalie and just missing net. Don’t see pick up puck and drive to net or trying pick a corner.
    He gets in close and just seems to try a shovel pass to somebody. At least before when he started slow, you could say it wasn’t going in for him and will start to. This year that’s not even happening, kinda bizarre.

  56. Plus Toews is passing up any available shot he might get on the PP in order to force a pass

    JC talks about players not wanting to win bad enough – well unfortunately it starts with the captain and extends to the other so called leaders like Keith and Seabrook

    We all agree Saad is playing his ass off but who else amongst the veterans is, other than him

    Kampf is at least playing hard even though he should be on the 4th line and Kubalik is as well

    Dach and Nylander are a threat whenever they get the puck

    It’s the vets that are really letting the team down – makes you think they are playing to get JC fired (probably unconsciously)

    I’m already imagining this team much better with M. Crawford calling the shots

    19-77-17 -22 should be your 4 centres – it’s not that difficult – 64 to wing on 4th line, Nylander up into top 9

    Really missing Murphy as I had said they would

  57. So glad for Saader being as good as he really is, after the first 10 games last yr people wanted to trade him.

    Can always cut the tree down later, you cant put it back.

  58. Darren/Jordy, good posts.

    Your right about 17, not paying similiar caphita s others in league and doing a bridge contract.

    Said to see if he is good on the line without 12, well. Have him with 12 or trade but do not do 6 at 6m.

  59. Wrap, yea thought the same about sch and not having both 44 and 5 makes a difference. Not blaming sch, though it does make a difference, not this perticular game just overall when it has weird stretchs. Like 2 in 11 days, then 2 in 7 days, then 5 in 7 days. Just cant get into a flow that way too little too much in those amount of days.

    When we are playing good and have our act together, then sch and other things add to it, make it harder, enhance or multiplier effect.

  60. Wrap, you mentioning 77 and 92 are threats everytime on the ice, makes me think of them on same line.

    19 77 17 22 centers

    20 19 65
    92 77 8
    12 17 88
    91 22 64

  61. Morrison you definitely get the credit for standing strong on your comments about Saad last year. The screams for his trade from here and the TV booth didn’t see the turmoil on the team at the beginning of the year or the way JC was choosing to use him in the quest for a competent 3rd line. We had scoring last year – plenty of it. We needed someone to anchor a 3rd line of grinding grunts to shutdown some other team’s lines. Kudos to you for calling the right shot, and to JC for creating a line that helped create an opportunity for a run in the 2nd half, that unfortunately wasn’t strong enough to hit the dance at the end of the year. But we got a prize in the lottery anyway.

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