On Tuesday evening, ESPN Chicago’s Scott Powers confirmed what most of us have been assuming for some time: Kevin Hayes isn’t signing with the Blackhawks.
Here’s a link to Maxim Shalunov going to the KHL. 2 year deal.
Wah. The Hawks won’t just hand over a spot to me. Wah. My friends are in Calgary. Wah. They didn’t give my brother a chance. Wah.
Instead of staying with the Hawks and having a legitimate shot at a Cup, this kid would rather go to a losing team so that he can step into a spot right away without putting his time in? Bye. Take the pick and forget about him.
J Hayes signed a 1 year deal for $925k. Obviously FL is not convinced about his future value. We will, however, be an RFA next summer.
Tab, is there any hope that SB can still trade his rights….or is there no point?
Mike, the Hawks own his rights until Aug. 15th…up until that point the Hawks can trade his signing rights…now, let’s say that the NYR don’t want to get into a bidding war with other Eastern Conference teams, they might be willing to part with their late 2nd round pick, which would move us up only a few spots…so the likelihood of this happening is very slim…remember, for Bowman to trade his rights, it would need to be for a pick ahead of the supplemental pick that Hawks are scheduled to receive at the end of the 2nd round as compensation for Benedict Arnold walking away…
I can’t wait for the first time Hayes comes to CHI, if he gets there at all.
It may be a business move by Hayes for his immediate future, but how he and his agent handled it was piss poor…I will be cheering against young Kevin after this immature move.
Mike, you are right about Jimmy Hayes…FLA is telling him you have one year to produce/develop or you’re done.
re: any hope of Bowman trading Hayes’ rights – no point. What GM in his right mind is going to give up a 1st or 2nd round pick for the negotiating rights to a kid who had one good college season? Any GM who would want him can wait 2 weeks and negotiate w/out forfeiting a pick in a deep 2015 draft.
The Hawks will receive the 27th pick of the 2nd round as compensation…..Go Hawks
Of course no team wants to trade a 1st round pick for a 2nd rounder, but I personally am glad this kid is not going to be around the Hawks other prospects. Some say that he is showing confidence in himself that he is NHL ready… I say it’s just the opposite….If Hayes actually had confidence in his ability, he would want to go to the Blackhawks (a top organization where players get national exposure and a chance to win a cup year in and year out) and win a job in training camp. He obviously doesn’t believe in himself that he can win a job with the Hawks. He wants to be given his spot in the NHL on a silver platter. I’m sure his NHL teammates (wherever he goes) will love that. Also I know at this point it will sound like sour grapes, but the 3 games I saw of BC last year, it looked like a big reason for his breakout last year was playing with two very good linemates. I didn’t see any particular skill that stood out to me about him. Maybe he’ll be a good/great player, who knows, but I also would not be surprised if he turns out to be the next Kyle Beach.
@ Tom Potter
The Hawks will receive the 24th pick of the 2nd round (not 27th), as Hayes was selected with the 24th pick overall in the 1st round.
HN4A, I’m right there with you. I would think you would want a competitor who would want to show he belongs. I don’t know Kevin Hayes, but it seems a little like he is scared and doesn’t want to be slow played by the Hawks…well the perception that the Hawks don’t play young kids is simply not true. Leddy, Shaw, Kruger, Saad, and even Nordstrom to an extent do play when they are young. What this tells me is that youth will play, if they play the Hawks way. If they don’t or do not want to, they will not play. I am fine with this result and hope the Hawks get to play against him in the NHL at some point. That first meeting will be something to see.
I know this pre-dates the current brain trust, but let’s look at the past 8 years of Blackhawks prospects and their debuts…
Year – Player – Age – Games as a Hawk – NHL Games since leaving
05/06 – Duncan Keith – 22yo – 686 – N/A
05/06 – Brent Seabrook – 20yo – 681 – N/A
05/06 – Rene Bourque – 24yo – 183 – 377
05/06 – James Wisniewski – 21yo – 168 – 314
05/06 – Dustin Byfuglien – 20yo – 260 – 268
05/06 – Cam Barker – 19yo – 200 – 110
05/06 – Corey Crawford – 21yo – 211 – N/A
05/06 – Mark Cullen – 27yo – 29 – 9
05/06 – Martin St. Pierre – 22yo – 21 – 18
06/07 – Troy Brouwer – 21yo – 238 – 211
06/07 – Dave Bolland – 20yo – 332 – 32
06/07 – Colin Fraser – 22yo – 157 – 201
06/07 – Adam Burish – 24yo – 169 – 189
06/07 – P.A. Parenteau – 23yo – 5 – 286
06/07 – Bryan Bickell – 20yo – 279 – N/A
06/07 – David Koci – 25yo – 27 – 115
06/07 – Mike Blunden – 20yo – 10 – 92
06/07 – Jonas Nordqvist – 24yo – 3 – 0
07/08 – Patrick Kane – 19yo – 515 – N/A
07/08 – Jonathan Toews – 19yo – 484 – N/A
07/08 – Kris Versteeg – 21yo – 233 – 179
07/08 – Niklas Hjalmarsson – 20yo – 387 – N/A
07/08 – Jack Skille – 20yo – 79 – 115
07/08 – Jake Dowell – 22yo – 102 – 55
07/08 – Jordan Hendry – 23yo – 129 – 2
07/08 – Adam Berti – 21yo – 1 – 0
08/09 – Antti Niemi – 25yo – 42 – 235
10/11 – Marcus Kruger – 20yo – 206 – N/A
10/11 – Rob Klinkhammer – 24yo – 1 – 109
10/11 – Ben Smith – 22yo – 95 – N/A
10/11 – Brandon Pirri – 19yo – 35 – 21
10/11 – Jeremy Morin – 19yo – 39 – N/A
10/11 – Evan Brophy – 24yo – 1 -3
11/12 – Andrew Shaw – 20yo – 165 – N/A
11/12 – Brandon Saad – 19yo – 126 – N/A
11/12 – Brandon Bollig – 25yo – 125 – TBD
11/12 – Jimmy Hayes – 22yo – 43 – 53
11/12 – Dylan Olsen – 21yo – 28 – 44
12/13 – Ryan Stanton – 23yo – 1 – 64
12/13 – Carter Hutton – 27yo – 1 – 40
12/13 – Drew LeBlanc – 23yo – 2 – N/A
12/13 – Shawn Lalonde – 22yo – 1 – 0
13/14 – Antti Raanta – 24yo – 25 – N/A
13/14 – Joakim Nordstrom – 21yo – 16 – N/A
13/14 – Teuvo Teravainen – 19yo – 3 – N/A
13/14 – Matt Carey – 21yo – 2 – N/A
13/14 – Kent Simpson – 21yo – 1 – N/A
I mean, looking at this extensive list; how many can you even argue were not given a fair shot? I think only Parenteau and Klinkhammer (and probably Stanton) to this point could legitimitely say that the Blackhawks did not maximize their value, everyone else either got paid by the ‘Hawks, got paid by someone else because of what they did in Chicago, or floundered once leaving.
Quite simply, the Hawks keep their best prospects and reward them for performance. Some take longer than others to reach the show (Bickell, Crawford, Shaw, Morin) but I can’t really say someone was kept down in the AHL when they were ready for the NHL. They’ve either been brought up to Chicago, or traded to a team that they could play on. If the Blackhawks thought Hayes was the same talent they drafted in the 1st round, they would be paying him to stay.
I wish the Hawks could have moved him for higher value. Its never a good thing when a first rounder turns into a wasted pick. Not faulting SB but its ashame that this is how things played out w the Hayes boys.
Have to be honest w/ the continuing “wish Bowman had traded Hayes” conversation – that was never going to happen. The kid had ONE decent college season, and it came after a suspension + season ending injury. There’s no way any GM is giving up better than a mid-2nd round pick for a kid w/ that track record. All things considered, the 54th overall selection is pretty good value for the overall body of work Hayes produced at Boston College.
IMO it is sad that the CBA allows players like Schultz with Anaheim/Edmonton and now Hayes with Chicago/? get to refuse signing a contract and they go directly to being a UFA whereas a player who respects the draft and signs with the team that drafts them must play through 2 or 3 contracts before getting UFA status.
I believe that a player should only be made a UFA if they were never tendered any “qualifying offer” by the drafting club.
Either way, good riddance…at least we won’t have to worry about him pooping in an elevator around the UC.
Kevin Hayes is like a Bigfoot. Everybody talk about him, but nobody see him play. And 29th GM wan´t him. Come on it´s just a silly season. He might be best UFA now, but there are just too old or too bad players. One eyed between blind.
IMO Kevin Hayes see’s a faster payday signing with another club. With JT, PK, and soon to be Saad and then TT all locked up with much deserved lucrative contracts I’m sure he knows a top 6 pay cheque will/may come faster with another club. Seems shallow to us but the almighty dollar and possible stature in signing elsewhere will be an easier road for him. If the easy way is what he wants then good riddance. That’s definitely not the Blackhawks brand.
Good ridens Hazer…we never knew ya…
Versteeg, Rosival, Rights to Hayes (for kicks)…
Chris Neil, + Ottawas 5th + 7th
Hows this third line look…
Bickell – Shaw – Neil thats a ‘checking line’…
Cap Probs solved..
Some size and West Conf hits addressed…
Just trying to work this one out, STADIUMFAN….
You want the Hawks to trade Versteeg, Rozsival and Hayes for a 35-year-old who had 14 points last year and a couple late-round picks?
That makes the Hawks present and future worse. Wipe twice, flush once w/ that idea.
STADIUMFAN- Ottawa would never take that trade. Neil has a low cap hit for the next two years. Even as the team is rebuilding he is a familiar face and a fan favorite. I would peg him as the Sen’s next captain. Trading Neil plus the draft picks would be insane from Ottawa’s point if view.
Versteeg might have struggled mightily in the playoffs but could easily rattle off 40-50 points next year with his legs back under him. Then Bowman would sell high on him at the draft to create cap to sign Saad.
Tab if Phx can get a 2nd round pick for Runbad its not out of the question the Hawks could have recieved a 2nd or 1st rounder or role player/ prospect for Hayes.
Just funnin it…
Still where does Versteeg and Rosy fit on this years roster?…+ Cap? + we really do need some pain and size competing in this conference…
We dont really need Versteegs points (dumb statement I know..just think Morin and Neil combined should cover his 12+ goals…?
Ottawa really needs Versteegs points and versitility now without Spezza and overatedboy Hemsky…They are also weak on D and very good but very young D grouping could use a vet like Rosy….They also need cap to cover…
We dont need Rosy…(for 2.2/part time)
Versteeg dont fit
Cap is an issue
We need size
we need pain
and most of all What/WHO are we going to match up against Bollig with! (tounge in cheek :)
I feel the same way.
Another one bites the dust.
I don’t believe a word of that Sasquatch bullshit. (ned braden)
Before we go completely crazy on Hayes, let me point something out. Hayes did the Hawks a favor. He could have easily deregistered from school ala Justin Schultz and the Hawks wouldn’t have gotten any compensation since he will sign elsewhere. By finishing school the Hawks at least get a pick. Anaheim got nothing.
HN4 I agree completely…all this shows that Hayes is not comfortable with his chances in the Hawks system…to me that say a lot…and I didn’t realize that we got a better pick in the 2nd, I thought it would have been a compensatory pick at the end of the round…good news.
Kudos to Stan bowman. He put his best foot forward, flew the kid in to watch game 5 against the kings, tried to sign him after the kings series as well, said positive things about him to the media and Hayes chose to go elsewhere. We will see where he lands but after the lack of success of last years honey baker winner, Leblanc, I’ve got to think it will be difficult for k. Hayes to just step into the pro ranks and light it up.
So it appears in some form that the hawks replaced Hayes and holl with Matt Carey and trevor van riemsdyk. Should be interesting who turns out to be the better players.
Kevin Hayes will get his comeuppance in the NHL. I’ll say this again…if Bowman, Q and staff really saw something in Hayes based on his last couple of seasons at Boston College then the Hawks would have found a way to get him inside the tent. Speaks volumes.
I’m not a crybaby. I’m not! I’m not! I’m not! I’m not!
I’ve played college hockey for four years and served my time so why should I actually have to prove myself at a pro level? It’s ridiculous. Patrick Kane didn’t play in the AHL so why should I? Plus, the Hawks made me mad by trading my brother. Who cares if he’s Daze without the skating and scoring, he’s really, really big! Besides #2 isn’t available. Speaking of #2… where’s the stairwell around here?
It really does look like the Matt Carey signing was a clear sign that SB had decided to move on from Hayes way back in March. I wish there was more info (scouting reports) on Carey. I am really hoping that Carey turns into a solid NHL player. I’ve read that he’s as good or better at center than wing (playmaking skills). Wouldn’t that be something if in 15/16 he turns into that elusive long term 2C we’ve been looking for. I personally think TT will end up on Toews line as a winger. Hopefully Carey turns out to be a superior player than Hayes.
Im happy to be done thing bout Kevin Hayes. Whats with all the Matt Carey love? He seems like replacement level player to me. Is there something I’m missing?
Concerning Carey, supposedly he plays at a extremely fast pace and sees the ice well. I just have a gut feeling that he will surprise in September and be one of the last 2-3 cuts. One solid 50-60 point season at the Rock (I think playing center) will position him well for 15/16 replacing Richards. It’s not far fetched. Remember me as the guy that predicted 2c for Carey in 15/16.
I actually like those guys, Hayes bros. can bring some pain. I did not really agree with trading Jimmy and it sucks to lose Kevin but I guess we will see those Hayes sisters on the ice! LOL! Sorry couldnt resist.
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