Hawks Send Stephen Johns Back To Rockford

The Blackhawks sent defenseman Stephen Johns back to Rockford on Tuesday morning.

Why did the Hawks bring up Johns for 24 hours? To maximize the cap space they can/will get from putting Trevor vanRiemsdyk on LTIR, according to CapGeek.

Here’s CapGeek’s LTIR FAQ for more about how the Hawks are maximizing their cap space.

31 thoughts on “Hawks Send Stephen Johns Back To Rockford

  1. Hey Wall, go back and check the threads, I said the same thing, it wasn’t that hard to figure out this was salary cap maneuvering.

    As long as him and his dunce buddy 61 keep blaming the coach for everything, dumb is as dumb says.

  2. Too bad I was looking forward to seeing Johns but was surprised at the move. So I am assuming we get to see both Runblad and Rosy tonight?

  3. It wasn’t hard to figure out, just had to take a shot at Jay Zawalski in the previous thread even though he’s probably right.

    Again, go find instances of me blaming the coach for losses.

    SSHM- there isn’t a game until Thursday.

  4. Yeah, find examples, right. You labeled me as a Quenneville apologist and if you don’t want to get labeled right back, watch what you type.

    I’ve seen you blame the coach almost every time the Blackhawks lose. Go ahead, deny it, you’re good at talking out your rear end as I said before.

  5. I know Zawaski and he’s a good guy, he’s just not as plugged in as he thinks.
    Cumiskey has been hurt, we’ll see if he’s ok enough to recall.

  6. Mister Meister- I don’t always agree with JS either…But I don’t really remember reading much on JS blaming Q… I do remember JS not agreeing w/ some of Q’s decisions on lines, ice time, etc. but not really blaming… imo

    I don’t want to see another Bully (Rufus) – run a valuable person (Sr Brad) off this thread… please Kids- can’t we play nice???

    It is very similar to my complaints about Crow/contract… some here read into it that I blame Crow- or think he is not good…BUT- that is no where near what I am trying to say… Crow has been very solid (this year and last)… I just think $$$ could be allocated elsewhere and There are other capable goalies to be found!!!

  7. Uhh, there were 2-3 instances in a row of you defending Q saying it’s all on the players and he deserves none of the blame. Sounds like an apologist to me?

    And if I talk out of my ass, my ass has better thoughts than your head. Just about everything I say can be backed up with numbers, besides observations on breakouts/PP strategy/etc.

    I know, I know. You’ve been watching the game for 55 years and go back to the days of 6 teams and you don’t need no stinking numbers to tell you what is happening on the ice. Maybe you even played the game and you know that hits are such an important stat and they determine the outcome of the game.

  8. Yeah, you do talk out of your ass JS. Funny – big man behind a computer screen. Yeah, let’s meet up some time – you sound like a typical smarmy 30 something dweeb with a big mouth and a little sack.

    You label people again, you’ll get it shoved right back down your throat.

    Just to be clear stupid fuck, I know about the numbers but I don’t rely on them to tell me what I just watched. You need to learn how to read. I never said the coach is blameless, but that’s you talking out of your ass again. I’m sure your breath stinks as much as your logic and hockey knowledge. Take a long walk off a short pier, numbers goof.

    Now that you’ve been called out, let’s see if you can refrain from crybabying about the coach every time they lose. I doubt it, your numbers will lead you to some self initiated conclusion you and your dunce buddies think is correct. You have no idea what goes on in the Blackhawks locker room (I don’t either just to be clear) and why certain decisions are made, but your numbers tell you the whole story, at least in your pea brain.

    Oh and sorry, Wall. Your comments about play nice are well taken and on point. But if smarmy numbers nerd JS starts labeling people, he’ll damn well know he’ll get it right back in spades, at least from me.

  9. I will say that Doofus JS is right about one thing, I do go back to the 6 team era but not 55 years. First game was 1965 as a very young boy. Family had season tickets for 41 years, since 1957. I now split tickets.

    Apparently my comment about hit stats stuck in poor widdew JS’s craw. Well, hit states don’t determine the outcome of games, but I don’t need numbers to tell me the big picture (hello Ivan The Terribly Dumb) effect of getting outhit by large margins game after game. It’s usually not a good thing. But then again the numbers often simply confirm what I saw.

    By the way JS, it’s “Cumiskey”, not Cuminskey, and it’s “Zawaski”, not Zawalski. One would think such a numbers expert would know how to spell names.

  10. 61, that’s your IQ right? Thanks for the nickname. Have you looked into an Anti Doofus course? Take off the pointy dunce cap for once.

  11. Good to hear tvr is not going to be out for the year. If he can get back by middle of February he would be ready for the playoffs. I wonder if 32 will play all the road games. I was hoping he would be spotted every other game.

  12. What has sabotaged this board is a group of posters methodically ripping into Joel Quenneville. A coach that would have 20 job offers tomorrow if he was looking tomorrow. He is an elite, future Hall of Fame inductee coach. And he has done a superlative job in his now 7 seasons at the helm of the Blackhawks. Far and away the best coaching job of any of his former predecessors that I can recall since I began following the Hawks with zeal in 1977.

    What has also sabotaged this board is the fervent viewpoint of some that the Hawks have no real talent gaps or weaknesses. Which is frankly the farthest from the truth this season. The Hawks are in a “down” period of a great overall period of their history. Hossa isn’t the same player, Saad has had a bitterly disappointing season to date, the depth has eroded, poor blueline depth, way too little physical style and net presence, too many dime a dozen guys on the roster, increasingly struggles with opponents who can skate, etc. If not for steady smart coaching and the ever-outstanding presence of Corey Crawford in goal, then this current iteration of the Blackhawks is struggling to take the 8th seed in the Western Conference this season.

  13. Wall, I think Sr. Brad is golfing in New Mexico. I miss his professional background and witty comments!!

  14. This is funny, right?

    You can ask Phil and AJ how large I am. And I’m 29! Not 30 something! Definitely smarmy though.

    Coach Q is one of the very best coaches in the league. I think I’ve said that a lot. He would definitely have a long line of teams waiting to hire him if he were to get canned/leave the Hawks. When he does something dumb, like skate Bollig 82 games instead of developing kids with actual hockey ability, or skate Handzus next to Kane, or skate his top 6 all 20+ minutes… I’m going to make a point about it.

    Also, when you are making fun of my typing errors, you probably shouldn’t make your own.

    Why does the MARGIN the Hawks get out hit by matter at all but ESPECIALLY during the regular season? Are they taking less hits if the total is 35-35 rather than 35-15? Nope. Still taking just as much punishment.

    The Hawks have throttled almost every team they have played this year, they are just shooting a low percentage. That will even out, they will score more, they will win more games, everyone will be able to stop crying.

  15. Sorry JS … a smarmy 20 something! I should have known … my bad LOL.

    I don’t need to ask AJ or Phil or whoever anything. Don’t really care.

    Developing kids with actual hockey ability – he’s done that in case you didn’t notice, which you probably haven’t because you’re too busy being smarmy I guess. Not a big Bollig fan but he does add an element to a team game. If you don’t believe me, ask the players, they’ll tell you. Both Keith and Toews said Shaw’s tussle was a big turning point in the game … which is decided on the ice, not on a computer stat sheet.

    On the flip side, I do wish he’d give Morin more of a chance, now don’t construe that to mean I’m a Morin apologist (you have a bad habit of jumping to conclusions, most of which are wrong), but Morin has talent and I hope he gets more of a chance to show it. Which goes to show you, if you can connect the dots, I am not in favor of everything Quenneville does, and am not an apologist. When you get a little older, you’ll understand the concept of not labeling people because some of us are a lot better at it than you, ok?

    The hits margin itself isn’t the issue, but the Blackhawks have been routinely getting manhandled. Your stats won’t show that, but hit stats provide a glimpse. That’s what I was referring to. They are trying to create a little cap room as you yourself noted. And I would well bet they are looking to add the right type of physical presence, probably at forward. Not a Carcillo type, but a guy who plays really hard and has size to make that element more effective. The eye test, whether you believe it or not, tells us the Blackhawks need to be harder to play against.

    The West in particular is very close. It will come down to where teams are in March or so. Things can change before then and probably will. Maybe Cuminskey (sic) will be a revelation if indeed he is called up and then Zawalski (sic) can brag about it.

    I am willing to let all this go if you are. I will, however, call out whoever unduly blames the coach for everything that goes wrong, every game the Blackhawks lose, because that is simply ludicrous, and if you’re listening 1961 that means you in particular.

  16. There isn’t a single damn shred of evidence that fights in hockey do anything for the magical “momentum”. It’s a talking point that the players use to pander to the fans. If they had someone last year that could play meaningful minutes in the playoffs rather than skating 3 lines, they probably beat the Kings. I do blame Q for that.

    I’m a Morin apologist myself, Hof! He needs a longer leash. He’ll probably be really good when he gets traded for a 4th round pick.

    I still don’t understand why hits matter. The Hawks have the puck a lot and they are going to get crushed while they have the puck. The Hawks top 6 don’t hit, they play 20 minutes a night, there isn’t much time for the bottom 6 to be physical. And still, how do the Hawks hitting more make the opponents hit less? Punching someone back who punches you doesn’t make it hurt any less.

  17. Why do I bother, but here goes …

    This is what you said:

    “There isn’t a single damn shred of evidence that fights in hockey do anything for the magical “momentum”. It’s a talking point that the players use to pander to the fans. If they had someone last year that could play meaningful minutes in the playoffs rather than skating 3 lines, they probably beat the Kings. I do blame Q for that.”

    There’s your example you wanted so bad. You blame the coach for losing to Los Angeles last year. What shred of evidence do you have for that? Let me answer it for you … NONE.

    You must not have been watching hockey for long if you think fights and physical play do nothing for momentum. They can and do, and that’s not just me talking, it’s the players. Keith and Toews said so after the last game. Believe me they aren’t just pandering to the fans, that’s ludicrous, that’s just making shit up to fit your narrative. Now who should we believe, you and your stats and your theory on empirical evidence, or actual players?

    I’ll go with them. And me, because I’ve seen it for years.

  18. Hawks have been at the bottom of the league in hits and fighting majors the last two times they won the cup.

    2013 Hawks 30th in hits. 27th in Majors.

    2010 Hawks 25th in hits. 20th in Majors.

    How did they win the Cup without checking them through the glass and punching them in the face!?

    Q sat better players than he dressed and waited too long to get Kane away from Handzus. As soon as he got Kane away from Handzus, Kane goal goal goal. Too little too late when you’re down 3-1 in a series.

  19. Also, fighting majors all but disappear in the playoffs. If they are important and can change the momentum of a game, why do they stop in the playoffs?

    Fighting is being completely phased out of hockey, if you haven’t noticed. Might be time to let go.

  20. JS, we are talking about the regular season, right? Isn’t that what’s going on now? Turn down the smarm-o-meter and figure out we are talking about physical play overall, not simply fighting. Wow, I have to explain everything I guess.

    Hey Tab … same comment for JS and Ivan and 61, or are you playing favorites? Love your blog and what you do, assume you run a level playing field here, interesting JS decides to add his smarmy comments after you chime in, wouldn’t you say? “Oh look, the cop is here now, I can say anything I want!!”

    I told him I would be done with it if he was, I am, he apparently isn’t. Look both ways here please, fair is fair.

  21. JS……..if you think for one second that the fight with Shaw and the knucklehead on Dallas didn’t change the momentum of the game to the Hawks favor, you’re crazy.

    I am going to explain this again……….in PRO HOCKEY there are 3 reasons that players fight……#1. Protect themselves #2. Protect a teammate #3. Change momentum.

    You’re right on with what you said about fighting being phased out of the game. The STAGED FIGHTS are no longer acceptable and are pretty much banned from the game. Fighting as PART OF THE GAME, ie: 2 players fighting for the puck slash and rough up each other to no end, break apart, trash talk and then drop the gloves. In an emotional game like hockey that will happen, at times. That’s why there will always be fighting in hockey, but the staged crap is gone, thank God.

    The Bob Probert’s(God bless his soul) and Stu Grimson’s of the world are long gone, but there are still scrappy players like Shaw and a few others who will fight when pushed to the limit. To me, as a retired minor league linesman, I love a spirited, evenly matched fight every now and then. It shows me that it’s more than just about the money with these guys.

    Ever fight on skates? Oh my god, it’s all about heart and desire!!

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