Marian Hossa Out For 2017-18 Season

On Wednesday morning, the Chicago Blackhawks announced that future Hall of Fame forward Marian Hossa will not play during the 2017-18 season because of a progressive skin disorder.

Hossa, 38, finished third on the Hawks with 26 goals last season. He has four years remaining on his contract with a $5.275M cap hit.

Read our Thank You, Marian Hossa commentary here.

From the team statements:

  • Statement from Chicago Blackhawks forward Marian Hossa:

Over the course of the last few years, under the supervision of the Blackhawks medical staff, I have been privately undergoing treatment for a progressive skin disorder and the side effects of the medications involved to treat the disorder. Due to the severe side effects associated with those medications, playing hockey is not possible for me during the upcoming 2017-18 season. While I am disappointed that I will not be able to play, I have to consider the severity of my condition and how the treatments have impacted my life both on and off the ice.

The Chicago Blackhawks organization, including Rocky Wirtz, John McDonough and Stan Bowman, and my agent, Ritch Winter, have been very supportive throughout this entire process. I would also like to thank my teammates and the amazing Blackhawks fans for their understanding. With respect to the privacy of my family, I will not be commenting any further on my health.

  • Statement from Chicago Blackhawks Senior Vice President and General Manager Stan Bowman:

The Chicago Blackhawks are in full support of Marian Hossa as he addresses his medical issues. This is extremely difficult for us because we all know the incredible person and player that Marian Hossa is – competitive, loyal and humble. He has played a major role in the success our franchise has experienced in recent years, which makes his departure from our lineup a significant loss. His teammates and coaches know he battled through some very tough physical difficulties but never complained or missed games despite the challenges he faced. The organization will continue to provide him every resource he needs to maintain his health.

  • Statement from Chicago Blackhawks Team Physician Dr. Michael Terry:

Marian has been dealing with the effects of a progressive skin disorder that is becoming more and more difficult to treat and control with conventional medications while he plays hockey. Because of the dramatic nature of the medications required and their decreasing effectiveness, we strongly support his decision not to play during the 2017-18 season. We feel in the most certain terms this is the appropriate approach for Marian in order to keep him functional and healthy in the short term and throughout his life.

68 thoughts on “Marian Hossa Out For 2017-18 Season

  1. This is sad, But we predicted something of this nature would happen as soon as his salary hit 1 mil. I wish Hossa and his family the best. I hope he sticks around Chicago. But I have my doubts. He enjoys his home country too much.

    Do the Hawks now trade his dead money to Vegas? Would his hit and low salary be more enticing to Vegas than TVR’s deal? TVR is cheap and has value. But his value is really on a contending team that needs a bottom pair D on a cap team. Vegas could see value in TvR in what they could get for him come deadline day.

  2. Another reminder, that like with Bickell (not comparing illnesses because no detailed information is available), we fans do not have all of the information related to these players and what they go through. Best wishes to Marian Hossa. He is one of my favorites on and off the ice. The team will move forward but I for one will miss his presence in the Blackhawks’ lineup this upcoming season!

    Go Blackhawks!!!!

  3. Is there a classier player than Marian? I doubt it. What an athelete he is. Wishing him all the best.

    For strictly selfish Blackhawk fan reasons there is a positive side. A LTIR is probably a cap hit saviour.

    Ernie, what do you mean by dead money?
    https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq

  4. While I’m sure everyone will soon be talking about the cap implications of Hossa’s illness, my first thoughts were to wish him the best and a fond remembrance of his game five OT goal against Nashville in 2010. His signing made the Hawks legit and his absence (no matter what his production) will be felt.

  5. His salary is rather irrelevant, but his cap recapture penalty the tram will still be in the hook for, however I’m not sure how much that will be. If he plays it 5.275 mil per season. If he was retired, the Hawks are still on the hook for 3.625 per until 2020-21. If he doesn’t retire and is placed in LTIR, I don’t know how that will work.

  6. Aside from being tragic and sad, I’m really curious about how this affects the salary cap / cap recapture penalty. Did things just get better, worse or stay the same?

    We all knew the day would come when Hossa would make his exit. The question of how has now been answered. What it means for the team and the cap is a big question.

  7. The big question is how legitimate the league views the LTIR angle. I am sure the league will see this as a ruse.

  8. Wishing Hossa the best. Thanks for all the memories. On the salary cap front, this has a “Chris Pronger special” written all over it. He will be LTIR until his contract is up, freeing up 5mil+ until the contract ends. Interesting timing…

  9. He goes on LTIR his cap hit is 0$. Hawks get huge help to get under the Cap. So Krueger gone (3mil$) and Hossa LTIR (5.25mil) that’s a HIGE 8.25 mil savings to get under the cap.

  10. Tragic is when it happens in the 2nd year of a career. Odd is when it happens in the last 4 years of a huge contract putting up decent numbers. Suspicious would be if it happened 2 years from now when he is even slower.

  11. Hoss is a wonderful man and has accomplished much, both individually and as a team leader. So the terrible news is the disorder, and he will finally be able to take care of it properly Not playing–that is good news for him and his family.

  12. Hoss…wishing you an effective treatment process and, hopefully, a speedy recovery. You’re the epitome of class and beloved by true Hawk fans!

  13. It wouldn’t be LTIR. It would be season opening IR.

    LTIR doesn’t make his cap hit zero. LTIR makes your teams hit artificially higher by x amount but not the full amount of the hit.

    If a players salary is 5m. And the team is 1m below the ceiling when a player is put on LTIR. The team now has a 4m dollar higher ceiling.

    I’m not entirely sure of how SOIR works. But for the LTIR scenario your team would still have to be below the cap come opening day.

    Theres a reason Philadelphia traded Pronger. Theres a reason Boston Traded Savard.

  14. Wasn’t going to do this but don’t think he can be put on ltir until season starts so no relief available befire then I believe.

  15. Great player to watch game in game out. I’m gonna miss watching him back check and his work in the corners.
    Hopefully everything is okay with his health going forward.
    Good luck and thanks Big Hoss.

  16. Ernie, your last paragraph is not only irrelevant, it is insensitive! Who really cares right now about the cap hit? Can’t you just wish him well without the salary cap stuff? Don’t you think that’s irrelevant right now?

  17. Ian…welcome to the dark side!

    Ernie, I still think he is available for LTIR. From what I read, SOIR is for injuries during training camp. Not sure though.

    The NHL rule for LTIR seems bogus. It seems to mean that it is in the Hawks best interest to be as close to the Cap as possible to maximize the cap relief from Hossa’s LTIR.

    Hossa was producing last year. Therefore the true cap saving for next year depends on how much it costs to find a player (or players) that can replace his productivity. If a equal UFA is available for 4m then the Hawks save around 1m. Perhaps enough to squeak under the cap assuming Kruger is moved.

    Certainly makes things interesting.

  18. Hawkfacts: don’t forget he was serving a major penalty and had just come back on the ice when he scored.

  19. Hossa retired now. Hall of fame bound. More cap space room . Still have to pay him some for next 4 year. But wiggle room and now with all the young signings I can see a 2009 team again with 4 lines in the works. Speed puck control

  20. Before assuming all this cap room get familiar with the tag rule, could negate almost any benefit thus year.

  21. First. if Hossa is actually sick I hope he gets better, that being said I dont buy this nonsense for a minute! This is a disgraceful circus being staged by the ringleader Mr. John McDonough, at a HOF players expense. Hoss is class all the way. This appears to be nothing more that cap circumvention. Hope hope Bettman grows a pair and goes after the Hawks and fines them and takes some draft pick right before this year’s draft. All this BS is SB fault and this is a poor way of getting under the cap. I really feel like this is the Hawks forcing Hossa out the door!

  22. As for the LTIR, there are a few factors in play here. 1st Hossa gets all his money which conveniently is now a 1 million dollar salary in real dollars (pocket change for Wirtz Co). 2nd his “cap hit” now disappears essentially. His 5 million dollar whatever was just a number anyways based on his contract and terms. This was all just a ruse from the start! Silly Rabbit Tricks are for kids!

  23. Dave: one of the great “what ifs” in Hawk history. Imagine if Nashville had won that game because of Hossa’s penalty and went on to beat the Hawks (a likely possibility).

    Hossa’s rep might have taken quite a hit especially with the amount and term of that contract.

    The rest as they say is history.

  24. One final thought and I will get off my soap box, this is no different than a multi-national company exploiting a corporate loophole plain and simple. Its a poor showing from the Org, robbing the Hawks fans of watching Hossa go out like this

  25. SSHM, I don’t believe this was Hossa being forced out. My guess is Hossa has a very irratating condition that is getting worse and he told the Hawk brass that he wanted to retire because of it.

    The Hawk brass found a way within the rules (hopefully) to get some cap relief from it.

  26. SSHM – Given the Hawks took one for the NHL in the last labor shutdown and gave in on Hossa’s contract in order to get a labor deal, I doubt Bettman will say boo. Especially since the Pronger, Savard, etc. LTIR’s have all been allowed.

    Anybody who has watched the NHL knew this was going to happen sometime. Hossa’s money was all up front. No matter what the reason (Hossa has played through a lot in the last five years), I doubt he is being pushed out. And wait for the confirmation from Chara, he’s likely to be joining his old neighbor in Slovakia next year.

    Bet you there is quite a paper trail on Hossa’s illness too.

  27. SSHM –

    If you recall, the rules for the collective bargaining agreement were different when Hossa first signed with the Hawks – there was no such thing as a cap recapture penalty at that time. The CBA changed a year or so later (partially in response to Hossa’s contract, I believe) to penalize teams for doing this. Even so, it always kind of felt like the Hawks were going to get screwed for simply taking advantage of a loophole in the rules that existed at the time. Perhaps this was their agreed upon way out?

    If that is the case, I don’t fault management one bit for looking out for the best interest of their team. And Hossa isn’t really a victim here – he got paid a lot of money, won 3 cups, and most likely earned himself a spot in the HOF by coming to Chicago on that front-loaded contract.

  28. Ernie, you’re a fucking twat. Hosea has been nothing but a class act (unlike you appearently). To suggest he’s faking so he can sit at home.

    Fucking douche bag

  29. One can only hope that Marian has health improvement and that his life is a happy and content moving forward. Hossa is not replaceable. His career with the Hawks has been a joy to experience. A consummate team player that brought strong dedication to playing the game the right way. He set an incredible example to younger players as to how hockey should be played on the ice, as well carrying himself off the ice like a true professional.

    Cynical posters calling this announcement cap related should be ashamed of themselves. Hossa loved the game and played with great enthusiasm. This was not the year he would have stepped down. While diminished from his prime years he was still a very effective player on the ice for the Hawks.

    He will be sorely missed by this fan.

    Lets Go Hawks!

  30. I was not suggesting he’s faking it. In all honesty though, I hope he is. I wish he and his family nothing but happiness and good health. It has been speculated for years that to get around the recapture the Hawks would use his neck injury, his knees, his head….something to get around the recapture. Could this all be a coincidence? Absolutely.

    A pro’s pro. And its a travesty that he never won a Selke. Irreplaceable and will be sorely missed. But this is something we saw coming.

  31. I don’t think he’s faking it completely. But I also think if he was going to make more than $1 million this coming year, he might have more incentive to play through the illness.

  32. Unless a trusted doctor gives us more information, ChiTownTrojan is bang on.

    It would be interesting to see a clear definition of an “injury”. I assume there is one and that the Hawks know it well. Without seeing that definition I think the league has to accept this.

    Marian, enjoy your retirement.

  33. Terry is very well respected Dr. and his word is good with me.

    As posted by Tab:
    “Statement from Chicago Blackhawks Team Physician Dr. Michael Terry:

    Marian has been dealing with the effects of a progressive skin disorder that is becoming more and more difficult to treat and control with conventional medications while he plays hockey. Because of the dramatic nature of the medications required and their decreasing effectiveness, we strongly support his decision not to play during the 2017-18 season. We feel in the most certain terms this is the appropriate approach for Marian in order to keep him functional and healthy in the short term and throughout his life.”

    If you want to be cynical about this, one is certainly free to express that opinion. Of course, the Hawks are happy to see some cap space free as a result if it is possible. I just don’t see this as some devious plan where they conjured this up. Sorry SSHM and others, I just don’t see it your way.

    Lets Go Hawks!

  34. Actually, a league doctor has to verify this for Hawks to get LTIR relief. No doubt that the condition is real.

    And by the way, if Hoss went on LTIR last year, he would have gotten paid. Just as he will get paid for as long as he doesn’t retire. The same as Dave Bolland and his 5.5 million.

    Chris Pronger, Marc Savard, Nathan Horton, David Clarkson. All 4 million + contracts buried on LTIR and used to give their teams cap relief.

    The real question here is how you replace the 25 goals and splendid defense that Hossa provided

  35. The Blackhawks will 2 options 1)be cap compliant on opening day counting Hossa’s contract and place him ltir then and have space available or 2) use the 10% buffer for being over cap in off season and build a roster as close too 80.275m his hit plus league cap and the last day of training camp put him on ltir and then on opening day when off season buffer is gone you are compliant.
    The down side to no. 2 is during season his cap counts against daily average and no cap space is gained as season progresses. Also ltir hit counts against end
    Of season cap and with no big contracts coming off next year you have 2nd contracts due to 40,38,48 ,7 and Rutta so any new signings would have keep next years off season under the 75m + 10% and under 75m for the following season until next years cap established, making extensions and long term deals difficult. Sorry if I offended anyone just couldn’t let it go.

  36. Firstly thoughts go out to Hossa and hope that they can help his medical condition,

    Secondly I get tired of the cap recapture talk on a contract that was legal and signed before the CBA changed the rule and try to enforce it on previous contracts.

    Thirdly, as Hawkfacts has stated the LTIR has been used in many cases whether it should be used or not. Pronger 6 years on LTIR and working with the league and even having the contract traded…come on get real. The Leafs with Lupul and Robidas, there are countless examples. lets not jump on Hossa or the Hawks for this as cap recapture shouldn’t even exist in this scenario in the first place.

  37. That SI piece seems like a hack/smear piece. Not one bit of investigation on his part. He makes a lot of great jumps to conclusions because of the exclusion of “Any mention of Hossa working back from this and continuing his playing career.” How exactly does one work back from an allergy when the physician states that all the treatments were becoming less effective? Anyone know how to “work back” from hay fever when your allergy meds stop working? No? Me either. So Puck Daddy thinks this is BS? Big whoop. All I can think about is how bad this condition must be to keep Hoss from playing and how sad for him that he won’t be able to play in his 20th year in the NHL.

  38. I love the Blackhawks but they get ZERO benefit of the doubt for this, this move stinks plain and simple they deserve to be smeared and called out. It’s completely in bad taste, reminds me of how they acted when Kane was brought up for Rap charges, equally done in poor taste. Very disappointing just like their cap management!

  39. If you look at this situation from anyone else’s perspective other than the Hawks salary cap plight, it makes no sense for anyone to lie about it. Look at it from Hossa’s point of view. Hossa has always conducted himself with dignity and honor throughout the course of his entire career. Nothing in his past would suggest that he is anything but sincere in this matter. If Hossa really doesn’t have a condition that would prevent him from playing, or if it isn’t so bad that he actually could play, what incentive does he have for helping the Hawks out by not playing? Or what could the Hawks do to him in reality to prevent him from playing? Waivers? No. Buyout? Nope. Trade? Can’t do that either. What leverage do the Hawks have to make Hossa lie? They don’t have any. So Hossa, who has never been anything but honorable would have to agree to not play so the Hawks could benefit? Why not waive the NMC if that were the case? He could be traded and he could still play. That this has not happened indicates to me that A) The Hawks didn’t want to get rid of Hossa and B) Hossa really wanted to play, but physically can’t. This conspiracy doesn’t make sense when you look at it from Hossa’s POV.

    Look at it from the point of view of the team physician. What incentive would he have to risk the 10 + years of schooling, his medical license, his lifeblood for what? You think a guy who is good enough to be the Hawks team physician is going to let some Marketing Exec bully him into medical ethics violations? No. F*cking. Way. I have a couple of friends who are physicians and there is no way that they would risk everything they have achieved for some BS scheme to circumvent the salary cap. Risk is too great, for what? The Hawks fire him? Can you imagine the law suit that would come up if he were fired for not breaking the law? Hawks would be screwed. The Hawks have no leverage on him to get him to do something that is not in his best interest. This conspiracy theory is like any other, it only makes sense if you look at it the only way that works and ignore all the other ways it doesn’t work.

  40. Omg SSHM, you are using Wyz at Puck Daddy for your argument? Really? The guy is a pathetic showboat troll as it relates to hockey. The Kane allegation chronicles serve as a harsh reminder of where that tool dwells. Please come back with a better argument or source. Once again to call into question Dr Terry is outrageous given his credentials and reputation. Try and get an appt with that guy. He is booked solid for months. Hawks Docs are top class down the line. Sorry but it is my opinion your accusations are baseless.

    Let’s Go Hawks!

  41. I really think Hoss is in bad shape and i beleive him …we will miss him a lot because he is one of the best 2 way players in the league and probably the best for the Hawks .
    I was hoping to see him reach the 600 goals with the Hawks …but now its bette for him to just stop playing ….life is not just playing Hockey … He has healt problem so just stop playing and enjoy life .

  42. Very sad and upsetting. My thoughts are with Mario. I’ve played and followed hockey for most of my 5 decades on this planet and can say with confidence he is among the all time greatest two way forwards the NHL has ever seen. Regardless the cap cap implications Hossa’s loss is a severe blow for the Hawks and further cements my belief that we have officially entered NHL purgatory. Now is the time for Bowman to stop kidding around, stop living in denial and get busy accumulating picks and young talent over the next several years to rebuild. It would be nice to once again be Cup competitive in several years before Kane, Keith and Crawford are finished.

  43. I have no doubt this legit and the only sick thing is printing and propaganding this conxpiracy bullshit.

  44. Anyone who thinks this skin disorder is exaggerated or not as bad as it is being made out to be, or a *creative* way to circumvent the cap, I want to point out that my wife had a similar condition diagnosed in January. Her skin practically liquefied on her body. It was painful, it made her uncomfortable in social situations when it became visible on her hands and neck, and there was little relief or comfort available that didn’t adversely affect her life.

    She passed away on Mother’s Day as a result of the medications and the toll that the disorder took on her immune system because it was basically red-lining 24/7 trying to get her healthy. Our skin is the first protective barrier of our immune systems. When it is compromised that badly, all kinds of bad things can and will happen. I watched it. I lived through it.

    So until you absolutely, positively know that this is made up, or exaggerated, try to reserve your opinions. My wife had just turned 50 and was incredibly healthy before getting this affliction.

    Is it convenient? Absolutely. Was it planned? Shame on those of you for thinking that. And Greg Wyshynski is a moron.

  45. Mickey,

    So sorry for your loss. You make a lot of sense.

    Just watch all the commercial on TV for meds that treat psoriasis etc. They all have plenty of side effects the main one’s being they compromise your immune system.

    I don’t for one minute believe the Hawks conspired to circumvent the cap hit if Hossa retires. This is just a business decision due to a flawed NHL cap system.

    I hope Marian has not done irreversible damage to himself with the treatments he has already undergone.

  46. Marion Morrison is a relative of mine and Hoss is like that kind of icon.

    Everybody already felt the way they do about Hoss and now the public knows he played through this. How good of a man is Hoss really.

    Your allowed to be 10% over the cap during summer. Then there’s that opening day/date to be under/at cap. Which you lite then and have the full 5.25 cap space to add a top6 fw or top4 d. We would have 23man right at cap then ltir the cap hit.

    His could come back if he’s good healthy and wants to after this yr.

  47. Players and coaches are always talking about “playing the right way.” Hossa is a living embodiment of what that phrase really means. There is no way he would quit playing the game he loves if he didn’t absolutely have to. And everything that Miroslav said.
    And Mickey, so sorry for your loss, and thank you for posting such a sadly personal and painful experience.

  48. Can anyone tell me how to upload a photo for my posts? There is another Tony on here, apparently, and I’d like to ID my posts. Thanks.

  49. Yea, you cant bank space when using ltir. That’s the only thing there. Then Ernie trading contract would be better then.

  50. Mo, Also you lose flexibility as this year being 4.5 m over cap in off season, next ltir would take up 5 275m of your 10% or 7.5m and you only have 2 25m left of it. Also the tag rule it counts against 2018/19 seasons contracts limiting what you can sign for the following year in multi year deals and extensions. So yes trading would be alot better.

  51. Good idea the avatar pic since you cant see emails to know if its the real Ned Schneebly.

  52. Another thing is we didn’t know about Bicks health issue and our team deserves to have that 4m cap space for 2 yrs. We cant retro active and use 4m over the cap for 2 yrs but the league should allow teams to retroactive that cap hit, say only towards player bonuses/% retained salaries type things up to 4m per yr for 2 yrs. As long as it was a legit health issue and Bicks was as well.

  53. Thanks for backing up my argument guys. Its not as simple as his hit goes away on ltir. His hit does go away if you trade him…

    After reading Friedman’s (I’ll spell it correctly) piece… well just read it.

  54. Great perspective Mickey-I hope this quiets the few that need to, for some reason, see life thru a conspiracy lens.
    Hoss get well, you deserve some time away with your family.

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