Markstrom, Canucks Blank Blackhawks

Chicago needed something to go right. Having lost four straight, the Blackhawks were searching for answers in the middle of their five-game road trip.

After a pregame ceremony celebrating the Sedin brothers, the Blackhawks came out and did everything right in the first period. Except score.

The Hawks out-shot the Canucks 17-7 in the first period but trailed 1-0.

At 13:58 into the first Patrick Kane put the puck into the Vancouver net. However, Brandon Saad was in the blue paint and the official behidn the net immediately waived the goal off because he felt Saad had interfered with Vancouver netminder Jacob Markstrom.

Blackhawks coach Jeremy Colliton challenged the ruling on the ice. It was, at best, a 50-50 shot the call would be reversed and, with Chicago dominating the flow at that point, it wasn’t an ideal time to run the risk of losing the challenge. After a brief review, the call on the ice stood. Because the Hawks lost their challenge, they were charged a delay of game penalty.

Bo Horvat scored on the power play to give the Canucks the game’s first goal.

Adam Gaudette scored at 6:25 into the second period to extend the Canucks’ lead to two.

Fittingly, on a night the Canucks purposely chose the Blackhawks to be the opponent when they celebrated the Sedins, a couple fights broke out. The first was between Drake Caggiula and Tanner Pearson at 10:44 into the second. It was more of a junior high-caliber dance for a few seconds than a fight, but both skaters got five minutes for the effort.

But Chicago kept working hard without anything to show for the effort on the scoreboard. The Blackhawks had a 33-15 shot advantage after 40 minutes of play. Kane and Dominik Kubalik were credited with six shots on net each through two periods. But they weren’t able to beat Markstrom.

As the second period came to a close Zack Smith finished his final shift in the closing seconds and went straight to the room favoring what appeared to be his left arm. Before the third period began the Hawks announced Smith would not return because of a hand injury.

The Blackhawks power play was 0-3 through two periods. They got a fourth power play 88 seconds into the third period when Gaudette dropped the gloves with Connor Murphy. Both skaters for five for fighting but Gaudette earned an extra two minutes for slashing Murphy to provoke the fight.

With Smith out of the game, Ryan Carpenter was elevated to the first power play unit. In 55 games this season entering Wednesday night Carpenter had spent a total of 13:27 on the power play.

Surprise! The Blackhawks didn’t score on this power play, either.

The Hawks continued to dominate the shot totals as the game progressed but Markstom was feeling it.

Tyler Myers slashed Dylan Strome 12 minutes into the third period and Chicago got yet another power play. Which came and went without anything of substance. Five wasted power plays in the game. The Blackhawks were still chasing two with six minutes remaining in regulation.

With four minutes left in regulation the Blackhawks had already established a new season-high for shots on net as a team with 45. Markstrom was terrific; the Blackhawks were not. Chicago hadn’t made any of those 45 count.

Chicago pulled Corey Crawford with three minutes left in regulation for an extra attacker, desperately trying to find an answer for Markstom.

Chicago sent out Saad, Kane, Toews, DeBrincat, Keith and Gustafsson with Crawford on the bench.

With 2:09 left in regulation Brandon Sutter won a board battle and tried to clear the puck. He successfully did that – and found the empty net. The Canucks lead was up to three.

Nothing the Blackhawks did was beyond Markstrom on this night. He finished a terrific shutout performance with 49 saves and the Blackhawks losing streak reached five games.

Kane finished with a team-leading eight shots on net in 22:33. Kubalik was credited with seven shots on net in 17:47. Toews won 18 of 29 faceoffs and put five shots on net in 21:36. Those three Blackhawks accounted for the same number of shots on net – 20 – as the entire Canucks team on Wednesday night.

Kirby Dach took only one faceoff in 16:41 but was credited with three shots on net. The only Blackhawks forward not credited with a shot on net was Brandon Saad, who skated 18:12. Eight of Chicago’s 12 forwards were credited with at least three shots on net.

Crawford was good but not good enough, allowing two of the Canucks’ three goals.

82 thoughts on “Markstrom, Canucks Blank Blackhawks

  1. The Canucks are Kryptonite on a stick for the Hawks. I didn’t watch the game , as I hate the Canucks. Wonder how many of those shots were from the perimeter , and without a screen ?

  2. Are the Hawks bad b/c they’re inconsistent or inconsistent b/c they’re bad?

    Either way, this is on Bowman 1000% for solely assembling the roster and solely selecting the green coach.

  3. Sellers starting with bowman out crawford lets get a hockey player who can actually play a physical game not this bullshit we are playing now and can score a goal its like dollar bill is back in charge forget about gimmicks to sell tickets and win a game forget about the last ten years its in the past

  4. Fire this coach!
    Carpenter and Smith getting PP time ahead of SAAD, DCAT, and STROME!
    Wait, wait, you think those 2 great 4th line players Bowman got would play the PP in Boston, Washington, Tampa, Pittsburg, St-Louis, Islanders, Flyers, Colorado, Winnipeg, ….actually the entire NHL? NO WAY!!!
    Fire the GM too.
    Kane once again great game, Toews was all over the ice as well! Keith a legend! Those guys deserved a goal tonight!

  5. RIP 2020

    time to face facts and plan for the future

    if a miracle happened and they made the first round it would be 0-4 and done and way less draft and other possibilities: we have talent those in the hunt will want: put the sign out

    “FOR SALE”

  6. Every other team in the central division has physical scoring players who want to win not skate in circles (debrincat) wasted millions try the ahl or some achl team lets give away another 1st round pick for a bag of pucks bowman i think the khl is calling oh by the way take coliton with u clown

  7. The future with Bowman and this head coach is not a future! Fire the staff and more importantly, fire Bowman, McDO, Kelley, Derek King, Marc Bernard, Pierre Gauthier, Barry Smith and Scotty Bowman (what is he in charge of ?)
    Waive Carpenter please! Trade Lehner to Carolina for a real forward prospect!

  8. It does not get much more frustrating than this game. From a macro standpoint, there is nothing to complain about. The Hawks played hard and dominated. From a micro standpoint, we can pinpoint a couple things, but these happen in every game.

    At some point, Dach needs to start finishing. He is playing great, but has been over handling the puck when he is close to the net ever since he started playing with the Hawks. It cost him a near tap in tonight. Kubalik’s shooting percentage is certainly coming down, but he needs to keep shooting those slappers. As with last night’s game, there were some rebounds available that the Hawks just couldn’t poke home.

    You can make the case that Colliton should not have challenged the no goal call. But once he did and lost, it is incumbent upon the PK to come through and they did not. Agree that it was 50-50 at best and you probably don’t challenge at 50-50. Maybe he took a chance because he has confidence in his PK.

    Markstrom was great. He is earning the pay day he wants. He did it without too much fanfare. He wasn’t flopping around. He was just great positionally and had puck luck on his side when there were rebounds to be had.

    When it is going bad, it seems like even when you do many things right there is no reward. Such is the fate of a .500 team. Many of us felt that this trip would be instrumental in deciding what the Hawks do at the trading deadline. We are getting clarity on that. Will Bowman do what the fan base is probably now clamoring for by selling off players?

  9. bowman is the architect of this mediocre team. if they make the playoffs there is a good chance he is not fired. if they miss the playoffs there is a chance he is fired. if they fall apart the last 25 games it is likely he is fired.

    so far a perfect road trip.

  10. Seeler will be in the lineup when Gustafsson is traded.
    Lehner is NOT being signed long term.

    Stan is definitely not buying. Do not believe any beat writer who says differently.
    Front office is looking ahead to next year.
    They wanted to give this group this 5 game road trip to prove otherwise.
    So far zero points.

    It’s now about accruing assets = draft picks or prospects. Thankfully there are few sellers, lots of buyers like Carolina.

  11. I dont no about rest of the fan base but enough is enough not dropping 120 dollars ticket or more to watch this bowman put together band of misfits i know show me some more bullshit about a all decade team when this team has no heart to win wakebup your alienating your fan base all over again hench 2000 to 2007

  12. The Hawks Goalies have been doing it to other teams for many of the Hawk wins,tonight it was the Hawks turn to run into that type of goaltending.The problem is that Markstrom got a very good look at most of those 49 shots.The Hawks dont have the types of players that can get to the net front and screen a bigger goalie.I never like being one of those silver lining type of guys but the Hawks effort tonight was outstanding with their defensive coverage and back checking except for the 2nd goal.Dach has to simplify his offensive game and make decisions much quicker.Once again 17 was slow and caught from behind at least 3 times that should have been quality chances.He cant keep up and I dont know what he can do about it.92 is just not dangerous in the offensive zone at all.Has anyone actually seen him drive to the net?12 is paid to score goals.He is not doing that….

  13. Move Lehner and Gus to Carolina before they figure out that they might not make the playoffs this year in the competitive top heavy Eastern Conference.See if Toronto will go for Maata.Throw Strome out there to see if there are any takers.See what Tallon will take off your hands for a young asset or Dadanov.

  14. Canucks were a team playing pretty good hockey of late and the Blackhawks dominated them, PP got lots of shots, some real good chances others lacking the screen in front. Complain about who was out there but at least trying different combos looking for something to work. The players had the effort and compete, bring that every night and they win alot of games. Gotta win the special team games or its a tough row to hoe.

    Agree Tab about questionable challenge, you make that type of challenge when your looking anything to spark your team and give them some momentum. When your team has a big edge in play all period and you challenge a 50/50 at best play, then give the opponents a pp and they score, game changer.

  15. Tim if they play like tonight on the weekend and after they return home, not sure you see much movement at tdl. Thought was best they looked in quite awhile. But if Hyde shows up again then who knows.

  16. So glad I have tickets for the games at home still…..NOT……what a waste…..4 tickets ,300 a game……no more

  17. 100% JC will not be fired and this goes with Blowman
    1. McDummy will stand up for them.
    2. McDummy will say there was too many injuries to justify to fire both
    But isn’t a GM job to set a team up for depth and system? Isn’t a coach to coach through injuries and make roster adjustments?
    3. Wirtz is too loyal just like his old man to fire McDummy, Blowman and JC
    4. At least the Pens know how to draft and develop players to keep making the playoffs

  18. Until the fans ( season ticket holders) start voting with their wallets- McDonut, Blowman and mini-me JC will have Rocky’s support!!
    The players WANT to win! They lace up every night wanting to win!
    Whether the CAN win ( talent!) or are set up to win ( coaching! Lineup!) are the questions that need answers by Rocky!!

  19. Rocky has talked about the need to have those difficult decisions and go forward with correct action. I don’t know if that extends to those just directly below him, though. That would include Stan. Rocky was all in on letting go of Quenneville when the plan was presented to him. I don’t know if he’s willing to pull the trigger on anyone above coach status. Seems like he lets McD and Blunk go to him with plans. If Stan is still in good with McD and Blunk, then Stan may have none of the accountability fall on him that a lot of fans think he should.

    I would like to see Coach Care Bear relieved of his duties, but I don’t think I’ll see it. He seems like an observer, not a coach. Just my opinion. But this guy doesn’t seem to be in the same unit with the players. Every post game is dull as dishwater, the same old stuff. No fire. Seems lost. He’ll get a pass for this season.

    At this point it is all about return on assets. They needed to kick a** on this road trip and they have already failed in that. Doesn’t matter how or why. The numbers are what counts. They slipped out of their shot and it’s time to face the standings for what they are. As someone who is at every game, I don’t look forward to a March full of home games that may be garbage. But the future has to be addressed starting now, with maximum return on assets the number one priority.

    Front office is going to hang on to that One Goal marketing scheme.
    They have to show that THEY really believe in it and go about it with some hockey sense.

    None of this Chicago Bulls post-championship era crap where the buddy system led to a dismantling of a franchise long term. Still haven’t pulled out of that and won’t any time soon.

    All the same, Go Blackhawks!

  20. Paul

    You bring up an interesting point. Are there any season ticket holders or ones that know STH. Are they still being able to sell their tix for above face value?

  21. @Zach Smith – Now that Smith is going to be out for a couple of weeks, wouldn’t the timing be right to bring up Fortin for the 4th line and not a top-6 forward like Hagel or Sikura? In fact, Fortin scored last night and has been a top-3 star the last several games. We need that element of speed on at least one of the lines, so let’s see how this kid has developed since we sent him down last year, and now he’s finally healthy. We already know that Sikura is not an NHL regular, and that Hagel still needs development in the AHL, but with Fortin we can decide if we keep him going forward, add him to a trade at the TDL, or let him go to Seattle at the end of the year. But, for the next two weeks, let’s see what Fortin and Highmore can do on the bottom line.

    BTW – last night was the best game that Gustafson had in a long time! Maata too, he was outstanding.

  22. Can’t fault the effort last night. I really don’t like Crawford, I mean you need more out of him in that game. 0-0 tie at regulation you’ve got a chance I don’t know what the answer is. I was initially against reading gusto but maybe they should see. I’d really like to keep lechner but you’d get a better return than Crawford. Not sure whatswrong with dcat, he was a sniper last year. This trip mY be the undoing and they may be sellers. Not sure the OP is a disappointment they need to get in front of the net

  23. 49-20
    another game where donot win PP/PK. No matter how good PK is if PP is this bad, you have to shutout the other team every game in PK-to split.

    Boy that 10 day layover did its thing.

    Im sure it helped some teams and hurt some teams. Be interesting to see the records of every team right after 10 day layover, which teams benefited and didnt.

  24. Makes me wonder now, if every team had the 10 day layover.

    Or

    If some teams got to spread it out more and have two separate 5 day which, prob, isint as bad.

  25. Effort was there but frustrating when you can’t get any of 49 to go in. Does anyone else absolutely hate the “push em back” entry on PP? Every time they do it seconds just tick away and the pick always seems to be dropped to a bad location or something. So stupid!!!

  26. Morrison:

    Every team has a bye week now. The Hawks’ happened to be immediately following the All-Star break, and it killed their momentum. But that falls on 1) coaches and 2) leadership. The officials haven’t helped the Blackhawks but the excuses aren’t very good at this point because they knew they needed to do well on this trip and they’re shitting the bed.

  27. I guess throwing away the first 2 months bitching about being asked to work hard was worth it to the players. Lots of golf this summer. Again. It’s not like most of them need the few pennies that the playoffs give them anyway.

    Leadership?

    New team slogan is PALMS UP. Waiting for the team picture…

  28. The hit by Dach on that weasel Roussel was priceless. I love how Roussel (after they scraped him off the deck) looked around for who did it and then threw the hard stare over at Dach who wasn’t having it. Good to see a little snarl from the big lad.

    As for the challenge, Saad was right on the edge of the paint before he attempted to stop. I have no idea what JC and Crawford thought they saw but it was bizarre. It’s hard for me to imagine another NHL coach making that mistake.

  29. Then we shouldnt do that again, combine the 5 day with the all star, it killed the streak wewere on, 12-5-2.

    Not sure if we have choice but I would separate those breaks for the yrs coming.

  30. blackhawk fan 02.

    gave up my tickets last year after 35 years. i am in arizona 1/2 the year and secondary market is under water. not going to lose money while missing games. two years ago i sold 35 games to 4 people at 35% over face value. had been selling 30/35 games per year to this same group for 6/7 years. last year they wanted ten games among the four of them.

    tickets to home opener this year that i could have sold @ $200 in past we’re going for $60/$75. check stub hub prices to see what is going on. level 300 tickets for upcoming rangers game for under $40.

  31. Donna, what drives me nuts on the ‘pushem way up there’ PP entrys is the times we carry the puck in a little then first guy comes up to us we dump it in.

    Eat the check and pass it back to the line the pass it around/keep it in.

    When we carry and then dump, we have one? guy going or puck and they have 2 or 3 and its cleared.

    We suck at dump ins because we always were soo much better then other team-dynasty rosters, that we never got any practice at dump ins for 10 yrs.

  32. I’m throwing in the towel. Still rooting for them to win every game but don’t see the playoffs happening. Very excited on what can be done these coming days leading up to the twenty fourth. Also excited about the future.

    We need fire power. Kubalik looked great getting those shots off. Thinking that DCat will watch the tape and inspire him to do the same. Ditto for Dach. Quit the fancy stuff and let’r rip.

    My plan is to trade for up coming UFAs that score or are tough to play against. Play them and if they gel good in the remaining games sign them. Gotta get 1st round picks for our goalies. Yes, trade them both. The first rounds picks that we get package them up to get better ones and hope we have a shot at Lafreniere. Targeting Carolina (get two picks from them) Calgary Edmonton Nashville or anyone with a 1st round pick. Then trade two 1st rounders for one to either Ott, NJ, Det, LA or Ana.

  33. Roster is on Bowman and he has had 5 years since the last CUP to draft and build prospects like all the top teams do, the Pens, the Caps, Tampa Bay, the Bruins, etc… In fact he has had 10 years!
    The Pens drafted Calem Addison in the second round and makes the Canadian National team every year while we draft in the 1st round Beaudin (who never made it at the tournament) and Vlasic who I saw try to skate (TOO SLOW) at the Beanpot also drafted in the second round, also cut by USA, instead of drafting a power forward who has skill! This is why we are watching this team without scoring ability or toughness! Trading an elite skater and playmaker like Schmaltz was dumb! Having neither Perlini and now Strome not work out is another reason to bash this GM. I mean Nick had 52 points and chemistry with Kane. Perlini was about to go on waivers and Strome was on a 4th line on a bad Arizona team! Who’s fault is that? And again, signing Lehner to all that money when we needed wingers on this team not 4th line wingers or undrafted rejects or players like Highmore, Sikura, Hagel, Nylander, Cagg….(all useless). As a GM, if you are going to get a prospect from another team, you need to go after the Bruins, the Pens, the Capitals because those lineups are elite and tough to break. If you go after the Devils, Arizona or Sabres, you land rejects!
    And this coach, well, how can you reward Kane and Toews Colliton when they had Coach Q for 10 seasons? No brainer, get rid of this management and staff..same with Rockford! And has anyone come knocking to give Bernard an NHL job? NOPE!
    ONE MORE THING…. If Carpenter sees more ice time than SAAD once again or if he is playing with Kane and not playing cards in the press box, this coach will loss every single game on this road trip! Who saved his ass last season? Toews and Kane playing together! Strome and Dcat playing together and GUS on the PP.

  34. This mess of a team and its inabilaty to win is laid at the feel of Rocky he created the culture of an evil empire, just look at the people in charge ,no one is held accountable for an ongoing disaster. Mcdonut and Blowman look on the Hawks as a paycheck , a job if you will .neither played this sport so how do they know what it takes to win. is hockey in Mcdonots blood or was coming to the hawks a career move. and Blowman stabbed Tallon in the back while asskissing donot. also i dont know if i dislike Stanley because he has castrated the Hawks or because of his gnome bald short fat appearance. I hope the panthers win the cup poetic justice

  35. LARMER JERSEY

    We came down to Chicago for games in 2015 & 16.

    So they are still filling up UC w 26,000 of the best fans. Just now some of the fans aren’t paying the crazy prices they did a few years. Thanks that is what I had wondered.

    Right now, even face value, it isn’t worth the trip from Madison WI considering we don’t know which Hawks team is showing up.

  36. I have not seen either game this week because the NHL Streaming package sucks. I am a Hawks fan from Michigan and I watch them on the tablet, bit this week i am in Chicago on business and the idiot NHL wont let me watch on my tablet because they think I should watch on TV…but my hotel does not have that channel. Add that to the frustration that many games seem to have a “preferred” team and it’s making I harder and harder to give 2 shytes about the NHL.

  37. “if you are going to get a prospect from another team, you need to go after the Bruins, the Pens, the Capitals”

    How often do those three teams trade prospects? ever? c’mon…

    I understand the rationale but there’s also common sense. You can’t trade for prospects from teams that have, historically, not traded from their pipeline.

  38. re: JR’s comment about packing picks to trade up – I’m not sure any of Detroit, New Jersey, Ottawa, Anaheim or anyone else is going to be excited to trade down from the chance to pick Alexis Lafreniere or Quinton Byfield. Teams tank to get elite talent. Chicago is likely going to need to win the lottery to land either of those guys.

    That being said, trading for pick(s) from teams that are going for it but could fall out of the postseason is a way to hedge the bet on winning the lottery.

  39. The only way the Hawks are getting a top 3 pick this year is to win the lottery after finishing behind San Jose and Anaheim in the west.As far as dealing with teams like the Bruins,Caps,or Penguins, the Penguins just gave up a boatload including a top prospect to the Wild so it can be done.You identify what you want from them for your asset and if they say no,you wish them luck and hang up the phone.You dont know until you try.

  40. Since the Hawks are now officially in “ No Mans Land”, I had a few thoughts.

    Everyone one here has an opinion one wAy or the other about Stan, but I think we would all agree the problem goes deeper. Scouting for example. Although the game has put more emphasis on speed especially on the back end, the Hawks have seemed to draft/develop smaller down in order to move the puck quicker in transition a.k.a. Duncan Keith. However, they still have to defend as I think all would agree they give up too many chances in the slot or outside the crease. Size still matters and you need a combo of size AND skill to win (Seabs back in the day, or Steven Johns). Other teams do it but we can’t or won’t. When we do roster a bigger body the are very limited or one dimensional (Gilbert).

    However, the more I thought about it, the same applies to our forwards. I like a strong, consistent forcheck but we haven’t seen that done EFFECTIVELY for a while. Any talented larger forwards that we had are gone and haven’t been replaced. When we have tried , the same one dimensional result (Bolig, Weise, etc). It’s not about dropping the gloves and taking bad penalties , it’s playing hard each shift and using your size effectively. Kinda like everyone seems to do against us.
    Now just gotta see what the next plan will be and hope for a new look throughout the organIzation I guess. Geez, glad to see spring training has arrived!!

  41. Joe,Well said my friend. You have your finger on the pulse and have identified the problem.The team needs to obtain both sides of the game and be able to sustain a physical game.

  42. Tab if I’m those other teams I am also thinking that way but, looks like Ott and NJ have two picks in the first round. Trying to get them to think that it would be better to have 3 picks in the first round. They say it is a deep draft. So you get one of Lafreniere or Byfield and two other top 15. Ott could have 6 of the top 62 players this year and then some if they make other trades.

    Our pick should be a top 10. The way I’m thinking that Ott will bite is that we get Carolina’s own pick which could be as good as 15 or 14. Send our pick which is at 7 now and get either Ott or SJ pick. Yes it is a gamble but it is a gamble on both ends.

    As we type it could be we trade #7 and #14 for #4 and let the ping pong balls bounce. So Ott will still have a possibility of #3 #7 and #14. I wouldn’t be too bummed out if we end up with #7 and #14 either. Plus maybe get Edm (Smith playing good thou) or Cal first for Crow and have 3 first round picks ourselves.

  43. The Hawks played very well last night and played well enough to win. Markstrom was the reason they lost the game. It happens.

    I think we’ve either reached the point or are darn close to it where Stan decides to try to explore being a seller at the TDL. If he still isn’t convinced of that – then I hope they lose the next 2 games to push him over that line.

    It takes 2 to tango so I don’t know what Stan can do to improve the 2020/21 team but hopefully he can figure something out.

  44. Slip skidding awaaaay…..slip sliding awaaaaay….the more you lose your games the more your slip slidiiing awaaaaay.

    The trade deadline will be more interesting now with who is going going….gone !! and……..Hello Lottery pick…..Schwing !!

  45. JR most teams put a condition on first pick would have a choice to make be next years pick if it is a lottery pick this season. Hard to get teams to move off them. Avs lucked out, Sens kept year before and took Brady Tkachuk and gave up 2019 1st pick instead and Avs got 4th pick coulda been higher if they didn’t drop.

    Tim Pens got a top 6 winger, arguably top line, who is signed for 3 more seasons after this year. That gave them the compensation for giving up a prospect. That’s a different conversation than acquiring a rental on an expiring contract who needs to be resigned.

  46. The last 10 posts are good ideas for draft and trades, what we need to add to the roster in FW and D.

    I still think we could go 5-5-1 and then 9-2 and be rigjt there again. Lets say that doesnt happen and we go worse then 5-5-1 right now and donot do that 9-2. THEN were talking about 5-10 pick. With help from ANA and SJ we could be 5th pick, and maybe not even even need as much help from ANA/SJ if we do bad enough (+5 to -2).

    So there we have 5th pick, then lets keep 14th pick.

    Good idea to make trade with teams like FLR CAR, because CLB and PHI might knock them out but they think there in now. In that we can get lottery from there picks.

  47. There’s no way the Hawks are making the playoffs. Too many good teams in front of them. The inconsistency is due to lack of skill and skating ability at multiple spots in this lineup. The GM has to go as he crafted this lineup. 3 years straight out of playoffs is unacceptable. Bowman has to go. The same for the head coach. I’d consider hiring Babcock a proven elite coach who will get the team to the playoffs. There needs to be a drastic change in this organization.

  48. My perspective as a 300 level season ticket holder ….

    I waited a loooooong time to get tickets. Started off years ago at over 11,000 on the season tix waiting list (not kidding). Glad to have the tix and I use them. I’ll probably re-up for next season (but not positive).

    I can tell you that the secondary market is not amenable to those looking to make money, that’s for sure. There are LOTS of people who try and do that and they’re hurting this year. I don’t sell mine but I keep tabs on what the prices are. I wouldn’t try to sell mine if I weren’t going. Might as well give them to good friends.

    A number of seats are empty at each game despite the sellout streak still going on. However, even with 21,000 plus reported to be in the stands, the price is coming down to allow more types of fans to come to the 300 level;
    1. People with kids who can now afford to come
    2. Drunken idiots who pay no attention to the game and turn it into a Cubs game atmosphere
    3. Really drunken loudmouths who act out and make things difficult for those around them

    The big money seats sometimes go empty. There are a couple of sections of seats about 3/4 of the way up behind the benches in the 100 level that are almost always empty. Someone has them and can’t sell them apparently, or some company has them and can’t get people to use them.

    The streak is already getting closer to ending. That’s apparent with the marketing schemes for selling tickets to “special nights”, where you buy a ticket with a certain code to pick up a certain item (i.e. bobblehead, special hat, etc., that is not on the official giveaway list). They’ve been doing this all season to pick up the slack they are feeling. You also see way more commercials about tickets being available.

    There’s been an increasing “knucklehead” factor as the season has progressed. That’s too bad for the positive people with kids who can now afford some of the depressed prices. Security and patrolling of the idiots is pretty non-existent. The same teenagers ask me night in and night out to see my ticket before they let me to my seats, as if someone is going to sneak into the third level.

    I’m still expecting the price to go up, though. We’ll see. The streak will probably end soon though. They could start to slip into Bulls territory soon. And there are always a lot of other cities fans showing up. Just like Chicago is still in opponents’ places.

    …. sigh.

  49. I am not saying were going to or predicting we will make the playoffs but we still have as good of a chance now as we did 3 games ago.

    The sch is skewed right now, for these 11 games were in because of the teams we play and because of the 10 day layover.

    We can make the playoffs, if, we come out of these 14 games (FLR to TB) around 6-6-2. Then go 9-2 the 11 games after these games now (FLR to BUF). Which puts us at +11 over .500 and in 7 seed spot with 10 games to go.

    24-20-6 (before FLR game and 10 day layover)
    25-23-8 (1-3-2 since 10 day layover)(in the start of these 14 games)
    get the 1-3-2 to 6-6-2 area and were
    30-26-8
    39-28-8 with the 9-2 and were +11 games over .500/team

    We can make the playoffs going 6-6-2 in these 14 games (which we have started 1-3-2 with very shitty refs calling games-in some of them-BOS-other) which means we need a 5-2 in rest of these 14 games. Then a 9-2 in the 11 games after and were in 7 seed position.

  50. You heard it here first, on Committed Indians, if we get these 14 games to 6-6-2 and get rolling-again for a 9-2, were 39-28-8 and in 7 seed position (maybe 3 seed in division based on DAL) with 7 games to go.

  51. For those hoping top 5 pick again, it could happen with a ‘little’ help from ANA and SJ-getting to 0/or -2 and we get to that. Hey they have the tiebreaker-it helps this way.

    DET 26
    LA 13
    OTT 9
    NJ 5
    SJ 4
    ANA 3

  52. Still, its crazy but even with these 3 loses and looking real shitty and every problem we have that we hear about regularly after loses ties and even wins?.

    Were right (5 games behind) there with the 7 teams playing for 3 spots.

    6/7/8 seed
    VEG 6
    CAL 6
    WIN 5
    ARI 5
    NAS 4
    MIN 4
    CHI 1

    Remember after the next 7 games/the TB game, we have 11 games we could go 9-2 and that would put us even/or ahead of these 6 teams here.

  53. Yes yes. I want to trade the same players as everybody else here. One of goalies, if not both, 56 and others like 15 6 65.

    Those that said trade 56 last yr, were on the money, so the people who said that then do we trade 17 and 12 now or later/not.

  54. Talking about going 5 -5 and 9-2? How about let’s start out with 1-5.They have to get 1 first and I would like to know when that is coming.Certainly not over the weekend.

  55. I looked at the sch before the break, when we were on a roll and was 12-5-2. Thats when I saw these 14 games and then the 11 games after them and knew then that this could hapen.

    Not saying we do it, just that it can easily happen.

    I didnt think we would do this shitty after a game or two, after the 10 day layover, but we did. So we need to get to around 6-6-2 (with this start of 1-4-2) to get to that +11 games over .500, with 7 games left. Even if we cant get to 6-6-2, from 1-4-2. We get anywhere close to 6-6-2, then we have a shot at the 9-2.

    its the sch I see the 9-2 in, not how were playing now. Were doing more shitty now/these games since 10 day layover then we did in the first 30 games of season.

    I donot think we ll do it, but I know we can.

  56. Wether we do it or not, watching COL pound/really outplay-skate circles around WAS. Its a taste of the finals.

    Although I fully think its TB yr and a COL TB finals would be good for hockey.

    COL wins this yr or next yr, that could be good so they get that hungry play out of them.

    I would be fine with TB winning this yr and COL winning next yr. While we adjust our roster and get to top 5 status.

  57. Even though PIT WAS TB are still stop teams they are next to go down in these coming yrs, once some of there core/important players are getting older.

    Its COL and whoever is joining them are the teams of the future.

  58. Watching the Capitals play tonight definitely shows that they have large men at forwards that get to the front of the net and screen the goalie as they deflect shots.Big difference.

  59. Well, that many penaltys called in the WAS COL game gives them about 5 PPs in a period and a half.

    COL outplayed them but WAS PP won them the game.

    I mean the 2nd half of 2nd and most of 3rd were PP and PK. There prob was only 5 min of 5 on 5. WAS really got the advantage from that. It took COL out of its game.

  60. Yea when I posted that it was when COL was taking it to them. WAS played good in 2nd and 3rd, there just was a lot and a lot of penaltys called for everything so there was about 5 min of 5on5 the last 30 min of game, kind of thing.

    For size and stuff, yea we need to get the kind of players you guys talked about a mth ago. Have to. Theres no excuse to not adjust the roster, for what we need. I mean Bowman and crew must know this, right? Theu are not tanking us on purpose anymore. We did bad en0ough this yr to have a chance at another top 5 skill player at draft.

    Its a start, three top 5 players at draft. 8 3 5? Just need to make right trades and ufa adds. I do htink we ll be back, just have to do this though.

  61. Not saying we make playoffs, but its funny in the time we have gone 1-4-2 with a 10 day layover, the other 6 teams playing for the 3 playoffs spots available, none of them have gone up (I know MIN has but I mean about +6)

    CAL 6 (going to 7 now but)
    VEG 6
    NAS 5
    WIN 5
    MIN 4
    ARI 4
    CHI (if stayed at +4 instead of do this and go to +1 we still be tied for 8 seed with 4 teams)

    Maybe its better for the longrun to get another top 5 skill pick. We can see the difference it already makes with having two elite players-in there very green rookie yrs. So having three is better then two.

    Were not going to win Four rounds so lets get a three top 5 skill player at draft again, and keep loading the young wave better.

  62. In terms of these 7 teams playing for last 3 playoffs spots, I thought it was crazy that NAS and SJ were this bad this yr, 50 games in, but NAS and maybe CAG look like they are awake or waking up.

    So I have thought all along that the three best teams out of these 7 are NAS CAG and VEG, in that order. And it finnaly looks like these teams have come to the top and the others will just stay in same area.

    Still waiting for EDM and VAN to take a slide. Should happen in next 20 games at some point. To have CAG and VEG as 1 and 2 seeds in division, with NAS winning that division and playing COL in conference finals.

  63. Mo don’t think you can trade 12 without getting enough in return. I also see more upside in 12 than 17. Last year was the perfect setting to trading 56. 60 points plus what we have/had in our pipeline was a no brainer. If someone comes asking for 17 do a frozen and “let him go, let him go ” depending on the return. I’ll take a high pick plus a body. Just wondering if the guy we all know and luv and not tired of hearing the different stuff he sez knows that in 60 games Hall of famer to be Schmaltz has 8 goals and 32 assists for 40 pts. Strome is at 10 goals 20 assists for 30 pts in 45 games. Stretch that out to 60 games should be 13, 22 for 35. Plus Reggula, and probably at 3 mil for the next 3 yrs not 6 mil for 6yrs. A winner for his favorite guy Stan.

  64. JR I think we all know Hull comes here to whine, not to talk hockey. He makes sense once a month in a good year. Pure babble with nothing other that intent to disrupt and get reactions.

    But it is his right to look foolish.

  65. Yea, not looking ot trade 12 and 17 but HHNL mmade good points and are these guys top 6/9 FW on Cup deep rosters or they just good players like Bread Man. I guess were looking for a player like Sharpy more then these kind of guys. And to me theres no reason we cant have some guys like these and a player like Sharpy.

    Not even any of the dynasty rosters got every player from draft. So we need to get some of the type/kind of players you guys talked about and Tim did last night. Size and tuff style players that can play/skill.

    I am not routing for us to lose, everytime we have ups and down, although it would be better for the young a wave to get another top skill player. Trade who we can because the returns are very good this deadline and we are in the situation that we need to/not just because returns are that good.

    Do not worry about each trade specific return and think combining returns/and with other pick prospects players and get waht we really need -of value.

    Do another good summer and add good ufas like we did this summer. Half of them git hurt-so that didnt work but it was worth the try. Now trade half of them and keep the better ones. It might have been good to get 6 if 44 is retire. And get those FW with size and tuffness.

    If Boq and Mitch are good and if 27 looks like he can play now, hes going to be really really good. Then instead of adding a top pair Defensemen ufa that 29-36 add a good Defensemen through a trade then thats younger. Thats sort of Haan and Maatta were-younger and better caphits then a ufa 30 at 8m.

    Just add this summer and make the trades happen. Donot let were stuck with this guy and that guy attitude control you. Make the trades happen.

  66. I’ll say it again-goal scorers don’t grow on trees. (#12) Each team wants and needs them. I still believe that in the right situation he will respond whether it be this year or next. He’s done it at every level, including the NHL.
    The defensive side will improve, as he cares. I have no problem sending a message by sitting him.

    I hope they make smart decisions at the deadline-not out of desperation or fear.
    They need to sign Lehner, but not at all cost.

  67. Bruce Boudreau fired by Minnesota this morning. They must have higher expectations there for their Head Coach than the Hawks do.

  68. @Zach Bogosian – was just placed on waivers for every team to claim him. He is a UFA after the season, so he would not count against the cap. We have the room to just give him a tryout without giving anything up. This guy has had a lot of success in the NHL, so why not take a flyer on an experienced RH defensemen with great size and speed. He could help us, and better than Seeler. Why not?

    The Blackhawk brass remind me of the movie “Multiplicity”, where each person down the totem pole is dumber than the one above him. The worst part about the Hawks is that the top guy on the totem pole is not too bright…just think, he gave up 2 2nd rounders for Kimmo Timmonen, who already had one skate in retirement, and the other one had blood clots. Yet, a 60 point defensemen like (Gustafson) can only fetch us a 3rd round pick. I cannot wait for Stan to get fired! Three years and no playoffs, yet we are up against the cap every year.

  69. Tommy he counts against cap at season end when ltir no longer in effect. Which impacts having room to cover any performance bonuses that need covered then so not carried over and count against next years caphit.

  70. I still think Timminon was here to win a Cup and not play full min., sure he was a depth D but like LEddy would sit the pine the entire 3rd when the game matter more/those sections of game.

    It was a very classy thing to do for 44 by the Organization to get guys who would not win a Cup unless they were a Blackhawk.

  71. Why is that classy to dump draft picks so someone who has never done anything for the organization is able to win a cup? It would be one thing if they brought back Chelios at the time or something similar, but a guy with health issues that had no ties to us? Lame

  72. Saad at 6.4m/year should be dangled as well… Should be scoring 30 goals a year and a force… not scoring 15-20 at that price… Turn over machine in offence zont too. Cost us 2 goals ladt game that no-one is talking about… Doesn’t STOP before entering crease… and Totally BLOWS play dead on a 2 on 1 with Toews…
    Just isn’t cutting it… Ones here who like him.. Put him on market— lets see the return offered…lol

  73. Thanks AJ, got busy today and did not get a chance to go…who gives a rats-ass about Kimmo MFKg Timmonen? Plus, why give up 2 2nd rounders for him…just for that…Stan, you’re fired…for trading away Panarin, Tuevo, and Danault, you get a kick in the balls on your way out!

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