Patrick Kane’s 3 Points Lead Blackhawks Past Canucks

The Vancouver Canucks ventured into the United Center on Thursday night with a 9-3-3 record, among the best in the Western Conference.

The Blackhawks, meanwhile, have had the look of a team headed for a top-three draft pick. And, after most of Chicago wrote a “fire Jeremy Colliton” post on the anniversary of him replacing Joel Quenneville, the Hawks’ head coach opted to dress Zack Smith over Dominik Kubalik for the game.

Sure, why not.

With that as the backdrop, the Blackhawks came out and dominated the opening 20 minutes of action. It was evident from the first shift that the Hawks were going to get as many pucks on net as possible after they have been rightfully hammered for their shot differential all season.

In a stunning turn of events, getting shots on net led to goals. Alex DeBrincat scored this highlight reel goal to start the scoring 6:41 into the contest.

Dylan Strome and Patrick Kane picked up the assists on DeBrincat’s fifth of the season.

The Hawks kept shooting but didn’t score again until this nice passing sequence on a power play late in the first resulted in a goal from Andrew Shaw.

The assists on Shaw’s goal went to: Strome and Kane.

After Colliton heard boo’s after he was introduced to start the game there were some cheers after 20 minutes. Even though both teams were credited with 17 shots on net, the Hawks held the 2-0 lead.

J.T. Miller scored a power play goal 62 seconds into the second period to cut the lead in half.

Vancouver out-shot the Hawks 12-10 in a sloppy second period but Miller’s goal was the only marker. Corey Crawford was facing a lot of rubber again (29 shots in 40 minutes) but was getting it done.

The Canucks did a terrific job of letting undisciplined play benefit the Hawks the entire night. Alexander Edler took a high sticking penalty at 8:29 into the third. J.T. Miller served a minor penalty in all three periods, the third of which came at 14:09 into the third.

With Miller in the box the Hawks took advantage. For the first time in 15 games the Chicago Blackhawks scored multiple power play goals in a game. This one came off the stick of Kane with Strome parked in front of the net.

The goal gave Kane three points on the night, making Thursday the 82nd regular season game with at least three points in Kane’s prolific, Hall of Fame career.

Strome added his third assist of the night on the Kane PPG.

Nothing can ever be easy, though. Drake Caggiula went to the box 70 seconds after Kane scored, giving the Canucks another opportunity with an advantage.

Vancouver pulled Jacob Markstrom with 2:43 left in regulation. While Markstrom was off, Olli Maatta hit David Kampf in the stick with a pass and it found its way into the empty cage for Chicago’s fourth goal of the evening.

Kampf’s third of the season came short-handed.

With 61 seconds remaining Edler ripped a shot from just inside the blue line. Jake Virtanen tipped the shot past Crawford to cut the lead back to two.

Brandon Saad flipped a puck into the empty net with five seconds left in regulation to make the final score 5-2.

Crawford stopped 37 of 39 in a very good performance.

Maatta was credited with two assists. Strome (three assists) and Kane (one goal, two assists) had three-point nights.

Three defensemen – Adam Boqvist, Erik Gustafsson and Calvin de Haan – were credited with three shots on net each. de Haan was also credited with a team-high five hits in 22:13.

Jonathan Toews had a season-high six shots on net and won seven of 17 faceoffs. Strome won only three of 15 draws.

81 thoughts on “Patrick Kane’s 3 Points Lead Blackhawks Past Canucks

  1. They played a competitive game tonight against a pretty good Canucks team. Still too many shots allowed, but I’m just going to appreciate the win.

  2. It’s evident based upon the team’s effort they choose to play hard when they feel like it — translation, they don’t respect or like playing for the coach. Or both.

    Boquist isn’t ready for the NHL, he cannot handle the big forward bodies.

    Crawford outstanding.

    We ll see how the next game goes before we start throwing flower bouquets at the coach.

  3. It looks like we do have a very good team, but we only ‘play’ in about half the games. Half are shitty and half are good. Against top and shit teams.

    We have the problems everybody talks about, and were good when we play.

    What does that mean, we get better at this system were not good at, yet, or isint good to use. Then we see a bunch of more wins, against good and shitty teams.

  4. PK and now PP are good, goalies are good. What do we need to do to go 6-3-1 and not 5-5.

    We won or tied 3 of 4. Is the sch actually regressing to the norm.

  5. I wouldnt go by any game, since we do have whatever problems. I would go by a few or bundle, because we always have a shitty game it seems like.

    We beat EDM and VAN when they were hot and had doing good. We didnt beat LA and SAN when they were not hot and not doing good.

    Thats seems like its not top or shitty teams thing.

    I guess I go to the stick to games 10-20 and then decide.

  6. @Ice:
    I’m going with both, after watching tonight and seeing Kane & Shaw in the post-game interviews. They were laughing, having fun…its like they just said “forget this, we know how to play, let’s just go” tonight. Except for 19’s obligatory slashing penalty. Lol

    Hey Jeremy: They know how to play without you. They can be just fine if you let them. Remove the coach(es) ego from the equation and everyone is happier.

  7. Hawks were outshot (again), outhit, and were dominated on the dot; but still managed to win. They did it by working harder than the Canucks. Need more efforts like that.

  8. I still feel like even when this team wins a game, it just means that the other team had an off night..and by that I mean, Van taking six penalties essentially means they weren’t 5 on 5 for over half a period..couple that with the Hawks killing 3 out of 4 of their own penalties and it seems special teams made the difference tonight..I still hate watching this team attempt to get control of any puck 5 on 5..I am enjoying watching the penalty kill creep back towards passable..give credit to Carpenter..an inexpensive signing but he has a dare I say Frolik lite ability to control and win pucks during the Hawks kills..not bad at all for a mil a year..

  9. Stefanie may have found the solution for the Hawks:

    Individually and collectively as a team, ignore the coach (maybe the assistants as well, they are guilty by association — w/ Colliton). Completely.

    Seabrook & Keith can privately coach the D, and Toews & Kane the O. Crawford & Lehner are fine on their own.

    Cup #4 now within grasp….

  10. This is the way they needed to finish off the home opener against Winnipeg and the close game they had against Vegas.
    7-7-1 would look so much better than 5-7-3.

    But “you are what your record says you are” – Bill Parcells.

    Hopefully, this team has flipped the switch and have just decided to “go out and play”, Less thinking, more instinct. Kane looked much happier in the locker room tonight, he’s addicted to scoring. That’s good to see.

  11. Carpenter our best signing in quite a while. Price is right – player is in a perfect role for his talent and mindset. He likes his role. Frolik is a good comparison. Role players fill out a team. Even Smith played better.

    Effort is everything. Kinda made JC look like a genius tonight. But when there is no effort – JC looks like an idiot. The control is in the player’s hands, not the coach. Tail wagging the dog, as we can clearly now see. Players control the play.

    And gee whiz – put a righty shooter in the slot and the 2 lefties play tick-tack-goal with him. That only took 4 years. Kane also working from the left boards messes with defensive scheme against us. FINALLY doing some things right on the PP. Balance is good on a PP.

    Boquist looking more ‘normal’ now. Will he look ‘good’ again, or continue to slide backwards? Gonna be a tough decision when Murphy comes back if he continues to slide. We’ve seen a lot of kid Dmen come up the past 3 years to only fold by Christmas. Easy to name 3 that are no longer here – Joki, Forsling, Rutta.

    Kneelander continues to grow. He’s no James Kneel though.

  12. The effort was strong throughout the entire game.The Defense was much better tonight clearing the front of the net letting Crawford get a good look.Finally put together some passes and made some plays.Hope the game isnt fools gold though.BOQVIST has to be hell of alot more dynamic and dangerous offensively to justify keeping him at this level.TOEWS was dominated by BOESER and HORVAT all night as he found himself on the wrong side of his checking assignment most of the night in the D-Zone.Strome has to start winning a few faceoffs and shoot the puck when the play calls for it.He left alot of quality chances out there.If DACH is going to be the 3rd line Center he has to do more and be stronger on the puck.

  13. Silent Spot. I like Carpenter a lot. But I love Lehner. That might be the genius move that saves Stan.

    The guy over at HockeyBuzz speculated on Thursday that Lehner would be the big prize at the trade deadline. I say No Way. Lehner signs an extension here.

    Management approaches Crawford and tells him in February that he can go to a contender and play in the playoffs or ride out the string in Chicago and we will talk in the off-season. It’s completely up to him. If he wants to stay, fine. He has earned that.
    Next year : Lehner and Delia.

  14. Craig – Lehner was indeed a huge signing. I missed that in my comment. I would love to see him stay, but I think if the team fails to show him that they can contend for a cup in the near future, he will move along. If his play stays at the current level, he will be in charge of where he goes – with a large amount of options. Hawks won’t have a ton of money if Strome finishes with a big year (really would have to pick it up) unless they move a contract of reasonable size. We simply may not be able to argue with the money Lehner can demand unless we show him the possibility of a cup near term.

    I would prefer the Lehner and Delia option for next year too! I just don’t think he is interested in being on a bad team long term.

  15. Iceman a classic one liner to end the post.

    Another conundrum-the Canucks reverting closer to their realistic mean or the Hawks showing some heart and true effort and this is a better team than some think?

    It was nice to see Crow play a really good 60 minutes.

  16. Always good to get a win especially at home. Easy on the young kids people they are the future and the now. They’re outplaying a lot of the veterans and surely out hustling them too.

  17. Much better effort although one game is not a trend. I really liked the 4th line and would like them to stay together for a few games – nice to see some physical play and strong checking from them.

    I agree re: signing of Lehner but I will go out on a limb and say that Nylander is going to be a very good player. He has all the tools and I don’t see the issues that were supposedly big problems in Buffalo. He is back checking hard and is playing a good positional game leading to turnovers. He is still only 21 so should be a lot of growth in the next couple years.

  18. The Hawks seemed to give up the dump and chase for more of a carry it in and create style and it helped generate 35 SOG to VAN 38 SOG

    If they can be mostly evens in SOG they’ll compete most nights because their goaltending is good

    Also special teams were good and the effort was there – all of that = a win

    Not sure how much JC had to do with all this or if the players just decided to play and stop thinking

    Either way the proof will be in whether they can continue with good efforts – their track record is not good in that regard so we’ll see how the weekend plays out – cautiously optimistic

  19. Hawks proved yet again to themselves that they need to play hard and concentrate every shift. When they do this, despite giving up too many quality scoring chances, they have a chance to win. Nucks are quick in transition and they have some quality young talent. Had Hawks come out like they did against Sharks they would have been blown up. I was encouraged that they were competitive in puck battles. Special teams doing better too. PP actually looked well set up last night and puck movement was quicker. Strome going to the net helped alot via screens.

    Crow was really on his game last night. He looked very fast and sharp in his movement. Dialed in from the beginning. With Lehner and Crow, Hawks have a terrific goaltending combo. If this team ever gets it’s act together in the d zone to help the keepers things could get more optimistic. Kaner had some good jump last night and has lost the pout stare and eye rolls.

    I still can’t believe how reticent this team is to play physical hockey especially in their own end.

    Lots of empty seats last night and many tourist type fans I never see in my section who know zero about “waiting for the whistle” to enter and leave seating area while the game is on. Because of that I missed D Cat goal. People are clueless.

    Schedule gets tough. Hawks need to build on last nights win.

    Lets Go Hawks!

  20. Good game, but my guess is they will regress against Pitt and Tor…so take this game with a grain of salt. But my question to everyone is what is your take on Dach ?? Personally, I believe he should have gone back to Juniors, he needs to learn how to take faceoffs, and grow into his body strength wise. He is weak and is a child playing against men. I also do not see any agressive edge to his game, very passive. He also does not come across as any kind of leader in the future either, the Hawks will regret picking him over Turrcotte. Thoughts anyone.

  21. Nice game….looking forward to the Pens. Would be nice to have 2 good efforts in a row.

    Dach needs to be sent down. He is taking a pounding which is limiting his time. He needs to play 20 minutes a game and that’s not going to happen here.

    Boqvist needs to go back as well. Time in the AHL this season will help him a lot.

  22. Dach is here…..so looking back is helps nothing.
    He does need to get stronger and fill out. They should send him back. But at least he knows what he is facing in the NHL.

  23. Strome cannot win a draw to save his life, which is an issue when he is sent out on the first PP unit. Somebody else should be taking those draws or we are basically just conceding the first 30 seconds of the advantage. The two PP goals came on nice plays, but over the 6 PP opportunities there was little sustained pressure so while the outcome was good, I think the process needs a lot of work.

  24. Jonny didn’t have his best night in the dot, but Canucks have some good face-off men, Horvat in particular. He is a bull – reminds me a bit of O’Reilly and Bergeron. I would love to have a guy like him.

  25. Since Dach has played 10 games, he is here to stay. I hope he progresses and not regresses. He is a child playing with men….the only players with worse FO % are Crawford and Lehner….lol….ugh
    This kid should not be playing center.

  26. What I am noticing is that when the Hawks play a team that plays them tight , swarming defense, forechecking etc… The Hawks look horrible and they fold.

    Vancouver is a fast team, but they did not pressure the Hawks at all. The Hawks had the easiest zone exits all year. The Canucks gave the Hawks space to move the puck and when they do that, the 2nd line flourishes. And, boom, Kane has 3 points, Strome has three points, DeBrincat scored (a fantastic individual effort to be sure…) The difference tonight was the Hawks had space.

    I think that when the Hawks have room, they carry the puck in and are able to set up their offense, when the Hawks play a team that pressures them the full length of the ice, the Hawks can’t carry possession at all.

    Did the Hawks outplay the Canucks or did the Canucks have a horrible game plan? I think it was more of the latter. Watch how much space the Predators give the Hawks in their next game. See if the Pens and the Leafs give the Hawks space this weekend. If they do, the Hawks will score, if they don’t the Hawks won’t. That’s my prediction.

    This isn’t a new pattern, BTW, the Hawks were like this since they last won the cup in 2015. That 2017 playoff, the Predators completely swarmed and overwhelmed the Hawks and they could not score. This isn’t new…

  27. It was a good win. Hope it continues. Like to see Kubalik in and Caggs sit. Glad to see the dump and chase gone (hope for good). The game was far more entertaining. Interesting article by Craig Mctavish on his short coaching experience in Russia. He mentioned that 95% of the teams play a dump and chase. That you never see more than 2 passes going to the Ozone. Defence gets the puck and it’s an immediate stretch pass to the breaking forwards who deflect it into the zone. Maybe that is where JC got this idea. Like I said hope it’s gone for good

  28. I worry about Dach
    (a) playing on the third line, where his offensive skillset is not going to be well utilized
    (b) getting pounded in the process

    I like his sharp plays from time to time, but I’m just not sure I like his role on this team. Is he going to develop the skills he needs for the Blackhawks long term? I don’t see that in how he’s being used right now.

    I think I actually prefer Boqvist being up more than Dach being up. They are on the team for different reasons, albeit with high skill sets for young guys.

    As for the progress of the team …. Nice win last night for sure. But, there has to be some sustainability of the level of play, wins/losses be damned. Play hard every night and the wins/losses will fall where they may based on the talent level and scheme. If they aren’t competing though it’s all for naught.

    Go Blackhawks!!!!

  29. Dach can be sent down I believe – Ian? – up until the 40 game mark, it’s just that they’ll have burnt a years of his contract

    So he can still go back and maybe he will but I think by the 40 game mark we’ll see his TOI up and him having more responsibility and being a more impactful player – he’s not hurting the team right now and he is a benefit on the PP

    However if he’s still 9-10 min/night by the 40 game mark then maybe he should be sent down

    I actually think he’s doing fine and he’s responsible defensively but JC won’t play him in the 3rd except for PP time – I disagree with that usage but it could change as time goes on

  30. If you think Dach is getting hit to often what ln the hell do you think it will be like if he’s sent down. The goons down there want to make a name for themselves. And faceoffs there isn’t a good center on this team, let the kid get his feet under him before criticizing him. Watch his positioning out there most always in the right spot and hustling. He will be fine just give him some time.

  31. Naturally Hull is a no show after a win. But remember he gives Stan shit for passing on Joe Veleno? 12 AHL games 2 goals 0 assists.

  32. Dach can go back to juniors any time, 10 games only means Dach contract doesn’t slide this year, which likely held zero importance if they wanted to get a look at him anyways. Teams don’t put much on that, the question is if they think they are ready, they don’t try slide contracts on purpose.

    Good game last, now lets do 2 or 3 in a row.

  33. Dach is the most important part of our future. Have been saying to send him down to get large minutes and gain weight and strength. He will return next year much more ready for the NHL. Extremely young.

    Nylander looking good. Hopeful he will be a fixture for years to come.

    Our great goalies are covering up so many deficiencies. How long can they face around 40 shots a night? No way we make the playoffs.

    Strome had a good night but cannot play center and his skating…. Trade him for a mid-2nd rounder and salvage whatever for the Schmaltz trade.

  34. Wrap can still go after 40 games until season in juniors is over. 40 games gives him year sooner towards ufa, ususlly little more important to gms than elc, their own comments say that.

  35. I agree with Earl’s comments on Dach. Why send him down to play with younger guys where some nitwit will try and make a name for himself and run the #3 pick. I’m sure he will be released to play in the WJC and in the meantime he is learning from seasoned pros and working every day with strength coach to get stronger. While he is learning the hard way about keeping his head up at all times he shows excellent vision, puck handling and passing skills. I believe Kotkiemi was a very similar situation for the Habs last year and he continued to improve through the year.

  36. I think management was and 8s in a desperate spot, they pretty much told the coaching staff Dach is playing this year. He had little to no training camp with the big club and he stays up over Entwistle, Sikura, Hagel, Kurashev…..seriously. These guys can play good 3rd line minutes and be effective. Dach to seems timid. Heck if I was 18 playing against some big ass men, I would be as well, he needs to cut his teeth in the AHL and give him 1st line minutes….and teach him to take faceoffs for Pete’s sake too !

  37. Personally i’d put Dach with Toews and Nylander if they are going to be a pp unit, to get used to each other ala 12, 17 and 88. Use 65 and 91 to spark Toews line if Colliton wants on certain shifts. Put 20 64 and 8 back together see if they pick up whrre they were at before.

    Kubalik said he wouldn’t use his Euro clause but would go to Rfd if sent down, so he may be the needed room for bonuses if Boqvist stays up.

  38. Dach has been okay, but I agree that his staying with the big club is something management “decided” as opposed to him “earning” it (and that’s not a knock on him). In contrast, Byram had a good camp with the Lanch and they still sent him back. Clearly Lanch management dealing from a much stronger position than Stan and crew. I wonder if they bring Byram up in the playoffs like they did Makar last year. What a pairing they could be.

  39. DAch is not eligible to play in the AHL this year – it’s WHL or NHL for him

    And for the record I don’t think he’s timid at all – he certainly needs more strength and bulk which he’ll get over the next 2-3 years then he’ll be a beast IMO

    I think he’s fine where he is although I’d like to Kubalik replace Caggs on that line and I’d like to see JC give him more 3rd period minutes – I’m sure it’ll come

  40. Dach can’t play in Ahl this year or next year. Since he is under contract only way he is eligible for playoffs us if he is on Rgd roster at the tdl, which can’t happen, this year or next. Mitchell or Barrett could sign an amateur tryout and be eligible for playoff roster, that likely happen only if they couldn’t sign an elc in time to burn a year, though. Then they couldn’t play in playoffs, for sane reason as Dach.

  41. Well, if you look at Hughes and Kakko, they look like they belong in the NHL, so there must be a HUGE drop off from let’s say the #2 pick to #3….and it shouldn’t be. I hope I am wrong but I just do not see the potential in this kid…didn’t like the pick when it happen on draft night and still do not like it….but that JMO.

  42. Hughes had a slow start to his season and was put into a more prominent role than Dach has been given, in part because Nico Hischier missed a couple games. Hughes has averaged over 15 minutes per game. He has picked it up over the last handful of games but he is a team worst -7.

    Kakko also has had a more prominent role for the Rangers than Dach has had for the Hawks. He has also averaged over 15 minutes per game and has 5 points in 14 games but is a team worst -10.

    Dach has played 4 fewer games and averaged 4 fewer minutes per game and he has only 3 points, but his +/- is zero – which is better than 7 of the other Hawks forwards who have negative +/- ratings.

    I’m not sure how one draws the conclusion Hughes and Kakko look like they belong in the NHL but Dach doesn’t. The eye test doesn’t lead meto that conclusion and the stats don’t either.

  43. @ Days – respectfully disagree – I liked the pick then and I still like it

    Dach IMO has huge potential and will be a very good player in this league

  44. Listen, it’s fairly simple. Those who dislike management think they fumbled the pick and are willing to overlook many things to fit that narrative.

    I think he should have been sent back. He’s actually been better than I thought. His defense is better than I thought. But he has struggled at the dot, and area I said he needed work on before he played an NHL game. I actually don’t think strength is that much of a hindrance to his success. I don’t see him getting knocked off the puck. What I do see is he needs to learn to keep his head up a little more often. He’s taken some licks, either getting surprised someone is finishing their check or not fully bracing himself.

    I still would have sent him back. But the amount of things I thought he needed to work on a little shorter than I expected.

  45. I would say Crow can do a ufa for 2m. I thinking this to.

    Also like 22 and 44.

    CRAIG NIGRELLI
    November 8, 2019 at 12:59 am
    Silent Spot. I like Carpenter a lot. But I love Lehner. That might be the genius move that saves Stan.

    The guy over at HockeyBuzz speculated on Thursday that Lehner would be the big prize at the trade deadline. I say No Way. Lehner signs an extension here.

    Management approaches Crawford and tells him in February that he can go to a contender and play in the playoffs or ride out the string in Chicago and we will talk in the off-season. It’s completely up to him. If he wants to stay, fine. He has earned that.
    Next year : Lehner and Delia.

  46. And for the record, everyone knew this draft had 2 players that were ahead of everyone else at this point in time. That doesn’t mean Dach can’t catch up. I forgot to mention Dach’s skating. It hasn’t nearly been the issue everyone including myself thought it could and would be.

  47. Phil / Miro, yea we get our act together same page different system or play this system way better. With the goalies we have a enough depth, then were good.

    Interesting on pressure thing, though were that shitty in this system trying to play when its like that, is crazy.

    Games 10-20 are a thing, because the first 5 games and preseason were joke.

  48. Indian / Earl, good posts on Dach. Not sure if TAM could play hard effort every game when your in a 5 in 7 days, then 5 days off, then 6 in 9 days. Just cant. Not saying we can just thats tuff for any team let alone us. Theres always going to be tuff games somewhere in that 5 in 7 and followed by a rusty 5 days off to 6 in 9 days. I would expect a couple in each section there, there just isint the effort energy wise.

    I am looking at grouping a few games together and going by that effort wise. Like were 2-1-1 with 2 good games there. Now when we have another shitty, how do we do after that for a few games. That would be good, per say.

  49. Boqvist not ready for NHL yet. Needs to get bigger because against top heavy forewards he struggles, too week. Dach too thin but will hopefully fill out in the next two years. Send him to Junior Championship for Christmas.
    And finally, as ususal, the Hawks are a one man team and his name is Patrick Kane. Same old story, without Kane producing, the team is weak.

  50. Interesting note i saw,
    Blakhawks since start of last season with Murphy in lineup are 29-20-9, without Murphy in lineup they are 12-21-6.

  51. Re: Dach, I think we’re seeing that he was a worthy and deserving #3 pick, preferences aside. I was a Byram fan, but all signs point toward Dach becoming an excellent player. A good choice.

    Whether he stays on the team or is sent somewhere, pros and cons exist for each, but it’s just as well that he’s learning from some legendary Hawks players while they remain relevant. I think it’s a good move for Dach, Boq, Kubalik and Nylander to have that exposure.

  52. Ian, yea I noticed that these first games here. At that point we were 2-1-1 with 44 and 5 and 0-5 without both. Remember the first 2 games and then once we had both guys, bang 2-1-1 and thats with the shitty.

  53. Was reading that Strome and other people said we played the run and gun of last yr this time and thats why we looked good like that. We did not do the new system for this VAN. The pressure thing makes sense but did we do the 2nd 40 games thing of past yr for this VAN.

  54. @ebony I guess it’s easy to have a zero +/- when you are never on the ice….so you can take that for what’s it worth too. And if coaching and mgt thought he deserved to have a roster spot, give him the minutes that a # 3 deserves, not 4th line minutes….then let’s see how he stacks up….bet it won’t be good. He is sheltered way too much, 5-7 min per game is not NHL experience, you are out there to give someone else some rest…that’s about all.

  55. @days… your statement that Hughes and Kakko “look like they belong in the NHL” implied Dach does not. Based on what exactly? Hughes has started to come around after looking out of his depth the first handful of games and Kakko still hasn’t established himself as a player clearly ahead of Dach. I say that not as a knock on Hughes and Kakko because most 18 year old rookies need an adjustment period – but rather as a knock on the veracity of your observation.

  56. I would say 44 and 5 are good 2nd pair Defensemen. When 44 or 5 are your 3rd pair then you are fukking deep.

  57. A few basic stats on our season so far (I’m sure the advanced metrics would paint a similar picture):

    – 21st in shots for/game
    – 28th in goals for/game

    We don’t generate enough chances and the shooting % is too low (poor shooting + being held on the perimeter).

    -16th in goals against/game
    -30th in shots against/game

    We give up a ton of shots, and if not for the goalies we’d be even worse.

    -19th on PK
    -24th on PP

    PK has improved a bit but PP is dismal (why is it again that we kept Gus)?

    -26th on faceoffs

    Bottom line: we have decent goaltending but we’re not good (lower third of the league) at most everything else. This is a poor team for now.

  58. Ian, have you seen the kerfuffle on whether or not Boqvist can slide again? Some people say it does and some say it doesn’t matter whether or not he plays that 10th game. Ben Pope says it doesn’t apply to him. He clearly doesn’t understand the rule. Nothing drives me nuts more than people that don’t know the product they’re selling or the rules of the sport they cover. Especially when a place like capfriendly so easily explains it and lays it out

    Neither Dach nor Boqvist are playing today.

  59. I’m OK with 77 and 27 watching a game as long as they’re back in Sunday vs TOR

    Some perspective for young players is a good thing

  60. Also don’t understand those that hate on Murphy – even without the won-loss record (which is compelling evidence) the eye test was enough to show he’s been a reliable D man, probably the most reliable, whenever he’s been in the line up the last 2 years

  61. I’m not okay with Dach and Boqvist sitting.
    Makes absolutely no sense.
    They need to play big minutes not sit in the press box watching Keith and Kane play half the game.
    Dach should be back in jr getting tons of ice time and Boqvist back in Rockford playing big minutes.
    Hawks management is absolutely terrible.

  62. Rusty Pope obviously doesn’t have a clue on the slide rule, if that’s the case. Pretty straight forward.
    Giving Boqvist a day off in a back to back situation not a bad idea. Gotta think if Murphy coming back soon, Boqvist just up because opportunity to play him is there. May come back up later in season. My thoughts when Murphy activated Boqvist goes back and a forward recalled.
    Murphy is probably the best defensive defenseman on the roster.

  63. Who fukking cares. If the refs do not make the right call or do not see it. Then you have to do instant replay and take the call out from the refs at the game, have the headwaters call the instant replay call.

    When there is two good teams and the game is given or a team is put ahead 11 because of a no call or no instant replay. Its just garbage or money involved.

    Really do not give a shtt when you can ref or instant replay right. Fukking disgrace.

  64. I have no problem with Dach and Boqvist sitting out a game. There’s no need to rush them and watching a game from the press box is not a bad thing. The 10-game decision has already been made with Dach so the objective is to bring him along at a pace the benefits him which is apparently what the Hawks believe they are doing and I think they have a better handle on what’s the right thing to do than I do or anyone else posting on hockey blogs. Boqvist isn’t assured to stay beyond 10 games and probably won’t once Murphy comes back so him sitting for a game is no big freakin deal.

  65. If Adam Boqvist is just up because the opportunity to play him is there…then play him. Worrying about playing a 19 year old in back to back games? Why?
    Boqvist played 11.23 last game. Will he be too tired to play back to back?
    Duncan Keith played 26 minutes last game and he is 38 years old.

    Kirby Dach played all of 9 minutes last game. He definitely needs to sit..he is probably still exhausted from playing so many minutes.

    I totally agree there is no need to rush Boqvist or Dach but sitting them makes no sense.

    If the HAWKS were not in win at all costs mode Dach would still in jr. And Boqvist back in Rockford playing huge minuites. Neither player is nhl ready.

    Playing Dach 9 minutes a game when he does play and healthy scratching him is mind boggling to me.

    Like I said earlier terrible management.

  66. It’s silly time. Who is suggesting that Dach and Boqvist are sitting because they’re tired? No one but the mopes on the internet who think they know better than the coaching staff how to bring along a young player.

    My guess is the coaching staff knows there is a lot coming at the players and want them to take a breathe – not because they’re “tired” but rather for a little reflection and introspection. They realize the big picture is more important than an odd game here or there.

  67. I do not say sorry, but ***** guys I was watching something somewhere else and could not contain myslef for wat is right and wrong with refs cal no instant replay and the way leagues are constructed to get the call right every time whether that takes instnt replay flag by coach and instant replay taken away from o nice ref, this is other sport I am talking about, and have headqtrs refs instant people make the right call and if they do ont they are banned and disciplined beyond beflief.

  68. @EBONYRAPTER Obviously you have never heard of sarcasm.
    I don’t think that it takes a rocket scientist or a mope on the Internet to be able to realize that young players need to play to improve.
    The mental toughness classes are done in the off season.

  69. Stick em Crow. No touching or pounce or refs get the fuk on the other team any time touch goalie or be punished. Time to get do not touch me time.

  70. Guys I know we thought we had a deep roster with several good adds in summer with a 2nd 40 of 25-15 once getting ‘used’ to the system. Thing is is we didnt do the system Defensive wise and we are first 15 games, blahh like that Blahh. Puke Blahh. Now we can play run and gun? please I want moar I want moar.

    So no need to get at each other and get together and be a team here. W want the players and coaches to get act together, we should to. Regardless of not agreeing on every little fukking thing.

  71. That is 4 good games in 5 games. They desevrve 0 points and we win that 2-1 regulation. Cant have wide open nets to tie 2-2 and 3on3 and shootout is a joke.

    Needs to be taken out of the game its ruiing the game.

    Go back to 5 on 5 for 5 min, then both teams get 1 point.

    You cant force feed Betteman 2 points for 3 on 3, really.

    Doesnt matter who the top temas are or people want to say we are the worst team in last 10 yrs right now.

    4 in last 5 games we played good or did good. Not getting results for play, should be 3-1-1 and were like 2-2-1

    Fukker out.

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