Report: Blackhawks Close To Signing Kempny

The Blackhawks apparently aren’t waiting to begin overhauling the group of defensemen in the organization.

Chicago formally announced the signing of Gustav Forsling on Wednesday, and now reports from the World Championships are that KHL defenseman Michal Kempny might be close to joining the Hawks as well.

Kempny, who turns 26 in early September, has one assist and eight shots on net in four games for the Czech Republic at the World Championships. In 59 games with Avangard Omsk in the KHL during the 2015-16 season, Kempny posted five goals and 16 assists.

He is listed at 6-0 and 194 pounds and is a left-handed shot.

73 thoughts on “Report: Blackhawks Close To Signing Kempny

  1. Why not…after all we need more dMan for Rockford and with the hawks ..maybe it will be a big plus for the Hawks except if the Hawks decide to sighn Rozi and another old dman ….
    Never have enough dmen in the organisation specialy since they gave many dman in the last 2 years..
    Now how about a left wing with big body and experience ?

  2. I love seeing the subtle but intricate moves bowman and crew do. Although this isn’t done yet I like what they are doing to stay up to par with the large defensemen teams are stacking up with. And also reliability it seemed like only hammer was blocking shots this playoff bout. Now for my dream to happen, Just buy out bickell he’s not the same player he was anymore and that eases a bit of cap relief or they can bury him in Rockford again.

  3. Hearing good things about Kempny but, as usual, we will never know until he gets on the ice with the group.

    Burying Bickell in Rockford is a better idea. That way his contract is completely off the books after next year. If we buy him out, his cap hit will be reduced to one-third its amount for twice as many years as the contract has remaining. So that would mean we would keep approx. $1.3 mil on our books until the end of the 17-18 season. I’d rather bury in Rockford, save whatever we can next season by doing that, and then have him completely off the books for 2017-18. That’s the way I understand it, at least. Someone correct me if I’m wrong about this.

  4. On a downer note ,Kempny was second to last in d-men scoring in the KHL. Cam Barker was the top scoring d- man in the KHL.He won’t beat out Rundblad. Just kidding on that one.

  5. Bob, you need to check your stats. Kempny was 25th in D Scoring. He was 7th on his team in scoring. 28 teams in the KHL this year. 320 total entries. Players in front of Kempny of note other than the afformentioned Cam Barker. Chris Lee, Philip Larsen,Sami Lepisto, Jonathan Blum.

    Kempny was 6th among Dmen in +/- and 12th in time on ice per game.

    His signing does not automatically mean he’s on the roster. This would be overall organizational depth.

  6. My point Ernie is that the Hawks keep signing the same type of d- man. Good skaters and good puck handlers. The Ice Hogs have a bunch of this type of d-man . Why not sign a Big Nasty ” Prick Stay at Home d-man . I hope that this young man gets a fair shot by Q and is not 1 mistake of being buried down in Rockford or Q’s dog house,like so many other,

  7. Pretty sure Philly would let you have Gudas.

    UFA signings are free. It’s only money. No pick or trade. If they work out, fantastic. I don’t see any other teams signing the player you want. That Chris Pronger type would be nice. But those are kind of hard to find. In the meantime, the Hawks have 3 cups and have never had that player except for Seabrook.

  8. I think they’re stocking up on the NHL caliber talent. If they do in fact sign Kempny they then have at least 6 players for a bottom pair and a guy in the press box. TVR,Gustafson,Svedberg, Rundblad,Kempny,Pokka. Somebody is going to be moved to address a need.

  9. If he is signed then I’m guessing his contract might have a Panarin-like clause that would allow him to return to the K if he does not make the club. And even if he is signed we still need to improve the prospect pipeline on defense (and LW as well),

  10. Ernie; that’s funny , my guess is that Rundblad will be the press box guest. I hope they serve him lots of Swedish meatballs and give a Where’s Waldo book. Make it hard for him. Put a Blackhawk’ jersey on Waldo.

  11. I have no idea if Kempny is going to be an anything. Many “experts” think he is a top 4 guy. Ifso, heck of a move, solves a glaring weakness on the team. I am hopefully the Hawks still add another NHL top 4 guy on the blueline.

    They are still another top 6 guy short of contending. This team lack top 6 scoring all season. Its unrealistic to expect Motte to be a top 6 guy day 1. Hossa isnt a top 6 guy any longer, Tuevo has yet yo show he can consistently play top 6. Stan needs to show me something this offseason before i buy in.

  12. Agree with most of SSHM. I think it’d be interesting at the very least if Motte and Hossa were on the same line. Let’s assume Shaw is gone. I agree Teuvo hasn’t shown enough he is a top 6. But I’m still hopeful with enough talent, and placed in the right position he can be a top 6.

    They have 2 positions of need, and I don’t think they’ve resolved either one yet. 4 D and 1LW.

  13. Personally I think they eat the money and loan Rundblad out to Europe. League minimum is not increasing until after next year. So 100k would be retained. Buried max contract is league minimum +375k.

    I actually think Svedberg is the one in the press box. His ceiling is the lowest of everyone else in my opinion.

  14. Ernie: Good idea on Rundblad.! I’m even willing to drive him to the airport .Even pack his bags.

  15. Hossa ain’t going anywhere. With his age, the league rules, his current contract …… he’s going to be a Blackhawk for a while to come. Even if he retires the Blackhawks are still on the books for multi-millions.

  16. Tab’s been over Hossa numerous times. Hawks can control things now. If they trade him and he retires. They be screwed.

  17. Keep HOSSA and treat him like a goalie bye not playing any back to back games. I would also have him on the first line until somebody out plays him. Then he will improve the third line offence and defence go hawk’s

  18. Hossa’s contract is our responsibility no matter what. Trade, retire, whatever. Recapture penalty makes sure of that. I think Hossa is far from done. His contract was front loaded, so his cap hit in the last few years of this contract is $1 M per. Now, let’s hope he ages like Jagr and stays healthy. Where else are you going to find a player with a better 200 ft. game for that price? I think he knows, better than any of us critics, where his game is and what he can still accomplish. He knows he’s a third line guy now, and he knows that it’s better for him and the team. I have no worries about Hossa. Just watch how he comes back next year.

  19. Tony- Well stated! That should be the Hossa primer, the definitive guide and required reading for all of us here going forward. Thanks.

  20. That’s nice Bowman keeps signing D men, strength in numbers (?) we ll see. As we are all well aware, Q is extremely picky these days and has an extremely low tolerance for forwards or D men that don’t satisfy his fancy quickly.

    I concur w/ Bowman’s apparent strategy of fortifying the back end; this exemplifies Q’s blunder of mishandling the collection of bottom six forwards at the end of the season and playoffs. Since the young second coming of Bolland was traded to Montreal for two forwards better than Desjardins — but weren’t utilized well by Q and neither was Desjardins — Bolland is a known and loved commodity to Q and he can be had for very short $ once his Godfather Tallon buys him out.

    Thank you.

  21. I agree that Hossa still can benefit the Hawks but he needs to play 3rd line minutes now, maybe with Kruger and Panik and let them do heavy lifting and his offensive numbers may increase. Kane needs to Play 1RW with Toews and then find a 1LW. TT can move up to 2RW with 72 and 15.

  22. Re: Motte- I can see him on 1st or 3rd line- if lines were balanced…
    As fun and dominant as 72/AA/88 were… it led to poor balance for the rest of the lines… which is why I pined to split them up a few times… ( I guess Q saw it to – late in PO’s)

    Motte- plays pretty big for his height- like Marchand (but hands not as good)

    TT- looked OK/top 6 w/ 72/AA

    so –
    14 or Motte/19/88
    72/AA/86
    Motte/16/81
    Dez/Moose/Hog (Shaw- if SB can dump/move 29 + ???)

  23. I luv Fabbri- Hope Schmaltz pans out!!! Fabbri is Shaw with much better hands/shot!!!

    Pavelski- does anyone know he is going to sit in between the dots – I can’ t believe the guy is that open… that often…. will the Blues be that dumb?

  24. Kempny? If he is so good, at age 26 I don’t understand why he wouldn’t already be playing in the NHL? Some above act like he is such a talent and a top four dman. Again, if that good, why hasn’t he been snatched up by anyone at that age? He’s allegedly a good skating puck moving dman. If that good, why are his stats not indicative of that with more offensive punch? Just not buying what some are selling.

    “Bob P.
    May 12, 2016 at 4:50 pm
    My point Ernie is that the Hawks keep signing the same type of d- man. Good skaters and good puck handlers. The Ice Hogs have a bunch of this type of d-man . Why not sign a Big Nasty ” Prick Stay at Home d-man . I hope that this young man gets a fair shot by Q and is not 1 mistake of being buried down in Rockford or Q’s dog house,like so many other.”

    Amen to that Bob P. We had big and nasty in Johns. Totally agree on Q’s personnel moves…I think Q screws up the confidence of more players than he helps develop…rookies and veterans alike. I would like to hear the true feelings on Q from many of the players that have come through Chicago in his tenure here.

  25. Tony: Hossa’s take-home salary is $4m next season and $1m after that. That is probably when he retires (it was $7.9m last season for comparison about what Hossa’s bank account will be feeling very soon).

    However, his take-home salary is neither here nor there when it comes to being a “bargain,” because his cap hit is determined by AAV, not salary. Hossa’s AAV/cap hit will continue to be the same ($5.275m) even while he is only getting paid $1m by the Hawks. No bargain.

  26. With the position the Hawks are in cap wise, Q is going to need to learn “behavior modification” and change his “my way or the highway” when it comes to the players that are brought in by Bowman. The past several years we have seen him making decisions about whether or not a player fits in within a matter of a couple games or weeks after a trade. With the amount of money that is committed to the Hawks “core”, the only real options are going with players brought up in the farm system or journeymen players that all of sudden do a 180 and become outstanding in his “system”. And we all know how much patience Q has for either. Yes, Bickell’s contract is an albatross, but we have to stop using that as an excuse and begin developing players in the farm system… However, if the Hawks are to remain at the top, they must give the younger players in Rockford an opportunity. They don’t get “real” experience in Rockford, but in the “big time”. Bowman has done his best the past several years to get Q what he needs, at the sacrifice of some very good players that we had in Rockford. Now, I think it’s Q’s turn to spend some time giving the youngsters we have some playing time. There’s another team in this town that did that, and it worked out pretty good for them, didn’t it?

  27. I could see something like what Datsyuk is rumored to be doing apply to Hossa. Datsyuk has 1 year remaining on a contract he signed after he turned 35. If he does in fact bolt, the Red Wings won’t have to pay him, but they or whoever has Datsyuk’s rights will be saddled with the cap hit.

    Kovalchuk essentially did this with the devils. Apparently the Devil’s have a 250k recapture penalty until 2025. Kovalchuk initially left during the lockout season, not sure if that complicates things or not in regards to Hossa doing the same.

    Hossa could do something similar and play in the Slovak league or KHL. Because the contract was signed well before he turned 35 the Hawks would not be hindered by the hit. He wouldn’t “retire” in this scenario. The Hawks wouldn’t toll his contract waiting for him to return like St. Louis is doing with Vladimir Sobotka. As long as he’s playing somewhere, I’m not sure if they can go after him for recapture. Or play somewhere overseas and get “hurt” then they could use the season opening ltir.

  28. Hawks have been this way with the cap for almost a decade. Q doesn’t need “behavior modification” His way works. Have we not seen that? He’s second all time in wins and has 3 cups. He just needs the players to execute.

  29. As far as Kempny. Sometimes the league misses on guys. Go back and look at the NHL draft, littered with guys that were high picks and couldn’t play. Adam Oats, Ed Belfour, Peter Stastny, Dino “Garbage man” Ciccarelli, Joe Mullen, , and Cujo all undrafted players all Hall of fame players.

    I’m not really worried about Hossa, I can almost guarantee the Hawks brass and Hossa have talked about long term plans. Perhaps Hossa has some type of career injury and doesnt retire but sits on LTIR for a season at the end. I’m sure both parties know about the cap recapture penalty associated with the deal. Hossa contact actually pay drops this season to 4 million and then drops to 1 million until the deal expires in 20-21. Who knows where the Hawks will be then, likely a lottery team, Unless fired Q will be here until that same time. After that all bets are off.

  30. Booman: It really pisses me off that we traded Johns. The Nasty Prick that comes to mind is Shea Webber.In his search for d – man ,Stan will opt for a Smurf type d- man or an old d-man .Stan will once again blow smoke up our asses on how this d- man is what he was looking for. Some above have posted that the Nast Prick d- man are hard to find. I’m sure that in Canada ( the country that invented hockey ) or in the USA , if you look hard enough you’ll find one.This I know, you’re not going to find one in Sweden , Finland or other Eoropean countries,

  31. Ernie, that’s the exact attitude that GM had for how many years before they had their heads handed to them by other auto makers. The only thing constant in this world is change, and it doesn’t matter who you are or what you do, but you always have to adapt to change. If you don’t, eventually it catches up with you. If what I read is correct, after Panarins’ bonus, IF the cap increases, the Hawks will have something like $10-11M for 9 players. if it doesn’t it’ll be almost $2M less. Do the math. Please tell me what 9 players you would have Bowman get for between $9-11M?

  32. Ernie, I have to respectfully disagree on Q and behavior modification. I agree we don’t win 3 cups without Q. (I maintain we should have one at least more if not for Q’s personnel handling in 2014…Handzus, Bollig, and not rolling the lines until down 3-1 against LA). However, Q has had generational talent through those years that made it easier on him to win. We have been blessed with the last 7-8 years of hockey in Chicago. What a mixture: the right owner & organization; the right coach and staffs; and many, many great players.

    At this point, the amount of talent we have is now diluted and aged. I know many will disagree, but I do not believe Q gives all players the appropriate opportunities. I good coach/manager gets the most and more out of the personnel he has available. I don’t believe Q does that as well as other coaches. He depends on and overuses experienced players to his own/the team’s detriment. I do not believe his handling of younger players has been as effective as other coaches. In fact, I believe he stifles development of many young players. In addition, his handling of experienced players could have been better (i.e. Vermette, Fleisch, Weise, Ehrhoff, Daley…) There were actually some issues with Troy Brouwer before he left and I am sure some others. All I am saying is that Q is not infallible. If the team becomes more talent challenged and longer in the tooth, I do not believe Q will be as effective as he was previously. That’s just not his skill set. If he isn’t successful, he’ll find himself in Rocky’s doghouse.

  33. Booman, that was the precise point I was attempting to make, and you hit the nail on the head. Everyone has different personality traits and people skills. Yes Q has been successful beyond any Hawks fans dream, but there is a balance to maintained when you have this salary cap to deal with, and I’m concerned that unless we really begin to groom the prospects in Rockford now, we are going to be running into issues
    in the next year or two. With the coaching staff that Q has, you have enough people
    to work with the players to get them integrated into the “system”. It’s about making the effort and spending the time, which unfortunately as time goes on, I don’t see happening. Yes we had to cut lose some players for locker room and cap issues, but that doesn’t mean you don’t make an effort to utilize either the players you received via trade, or at Rockford. Teravainen and Panarin are RFA’s in 2017-2018,
    what are you going to do then???

  34. Crawford had his best season, incredible really, Panarin was somewhat expected to be a good addition but he was a BIG surprise and exceeded all expectations and was a thrill to watch, Kane has his banner year, becoming the first American born to finally win the Art Ross and he may get the Hart and maybe the Lindsay, Seabrook netted his personal best in goals and points, Hammer and Keith were as solid as ever. Despite the carping on Toews he matched his gol production for the last 2 years. The additions of Fleishmann, Weise and Ladd was heaven sent. The supporting cast was fine and had the best mentors money could buy.

    ….seems to me a wasted effort. Something went wrong and it was not on the players. Looking at the playoffs to date we should have mopped this up no problem. The finger is pointing at one guy really,… it’s a damn shame.

  35. Booman a BIG AMEN back at you . I’m on the same page as you on your evaluation of Q.Just as Q is praised for all his good moves and line blending during the games, the critique of his bad decisions Is warranted.What I don’t understand , is how can a GM not get pisst at his coach , when trades high draft choices and prospects for players the coach won’t play.I would like to read your thoughts on this matter.

  36. Yohann Auvitu- France D man 26 years old…
    supposed to be great skater/puck mover…

    anyone actually see this guy play? KHL or NHL bound???

  37. Bob P.,

    I agree with your point. There is obvious discord between Q and Bowman with the Fleisch and Weise trade. Weise hardly played in the regular season and then they both did not see consistent ice time in the playoffs. The last couple games against the Blues, Weise was playing very well. It made no sense that Q did not give them plenty of opportunity to assimilate into roles prior to the playoffs. So in the end, why even trade Danault? The entire issue is on both Bowman and Q. I’d like to know what discussion GM and coach had before any of those trades or moves. Whatever they were, it is clear “We have a failure to communicate.”

    In addition, I am not clear why we traded Scuderi. I am not sure if we freed the team of any salary. I know we will carry some of his salary into next season. When I saw Ehrhoff play, I did not see glaring mistakes that he was making that caused his lack of playing time. To qualify that, I never played or coached organized hockey, but this game is not that complex. I thought he looked pretty good and would get better with more ice time. It is beyond me how Rosy and Sveddy played ahead of Ehrhoff. Then Rosy is sat in the playoffs and Rundblad played in his stead. That’s totally ridiculous. Rosy, Sveddy, & Rundblad should not be wearing Blackhawk jerseys next year even if they would accept 15.00/hr. If they are, unfortunately, I will be of the mindset that our fantastic run is winding down.

    The Toews and Kane contracts are anchors on this team. I thought that when they did not take more of a discount to continue winning. Two players do not make a team. The Bolts are thinking long and hard about committing 1/7th of their salary cap to Stamkos because of that fact. It would not surprise me if he isn’t on Tampa next year. Because of those contracts, we are scraping to pay guys the league minimum to be cap reliant. That’s why I believe the Hawks have to take drastic action this summer to free up some cap space. Moving part of the core is a must in order to get more quality across their entire line-up. Otherwise, we are in a downward spiral.

  38. Whatever LA and TAM do, these teams will not be as good as they been/were. Every team has flaws/holes and now those two will not be as deep. PIT creeped back up once the top teams are not there (this yr) from the cambell conf. and these two teams (like us) are peaked roster wise in terms of salary cap. Its those teams turn to take the salary cap hit to the roster. We have already paid our dues.

  39. Booman:I agree . You might have to trade some core group players .My problem with that is, do you trust Stan to get good returns for some our core players? My other issue is: When the Hawks tried to trade Runblad , 29 other teams said no. When he was placed on waivers , 29 teams passed on him. To me. That is telling me that he does not belong in the NHL.The Hawks saw the light and sent him to Rockford. They sent his ass to the Swiss league.The Hawks called him back and played in the Blues series ahead of Ehrhoff , and Gustfasonn. What did I miss that warranted his return?Which core player do you think should be move?

  40. Stepping back we see that Crawford had his best season, incredible really. Panarin was somewhat expected to be a good addition but he was a BIG surprise and surpassed all expectations and was a thrill and half to watch. Kane had his banner year , becoming the first American born to capture the Art Ross and he may get the Hart and Lindsay to boot. Despite the carping on Toews he matched his goal production for the past 2 years. Keith and Hammer were a solid as ever. The additions of Fleishmann, Weise and Ladd were heaven sent. Erhoff appeared fine to everyone on this site. The supporting cast was fine and had the best mentors money could buy.

    Seems like a wasted effort, something went wrong and it was not on the players. Looking at the playoffs so far we could/should have mopped this up no problem. The finger is pointing at one guy really….it’s a shame.

  41. Bob P, Ray H & Booman, all spot on re Q and his mistakes as to not rolling four lines and misuse (and or non use) of the players Bowman provided him. What was the point of trading Danault then, particularly when Q played him consistently? Q took an immediate liking to Danault, fine; clearly, Fleischman & Weise were not utilized properly by Q.

    Q has done an outstanding job as the Hawks’ coach; however, he is not immune to criticism. Let’s call it like it is. This team was capable of winning the Cup again, just like in ’14. This is on Q two rounds earlier. Candidly, Im not impressed whatsoever w the remaining teams, particularly the weak goaltending. The Cup was there for the taking.

    Oh well, we move on.

  42. Yes let’s move on. Q has 3 cups in his resume . In my opinion , he should’ve had 3 more. The series against the Canucks, Kings , and Blues were those the Hawks should’ve won. In moving on , let’s hope it is with a more patient and forgiving Q and that Stan Really does his homework when making trades.One more thing. When Stan makes a trade , I don’t want to hear how good he is ( Daley and Dano ) . I want him to show me.

  43. When it comes to Bowman, the bulk of the players that he drafted in the past few years that were top picks had 3 things occur; 1) Q didn’t like them, so they were traded, 2) They were traded mid-season in an attempt to win a cup, or 3) they’re
    still in the minors or college.
    Bowman’s hands are tied as to what he can do for 1 of 2 reasons: 1) cap space or
    2) there aren’t any teams out there that are going to help the biggest dog on the block eat. It’s been that way for several years now, and that’s why it’s going to come back and bite us in the butt unless Q starts biting the bullet and utilizing the younger players more. Personally, I think Stan needs to tell Q to make do with what he has and nurture the younger talent as that is part of being a coach. It’s not about next year, it’s about the 3-5 years…

  44. Yes indeed. Stan is the GM and Q is the coach. GMs hire and fire coaches and if I recall, Shit always rolls down hill.

  45. Far too many mitigating circumstances in Q’s favour. The only way would be “irreconcilable differences” ( my ex citied that one on me, to which I replied “Huh?”)

    What is obvious to us all here is also obvious to everyone else regarding the use of players. Things will change.

    A good summers rest, a powerful camp and we win the thing next year.

  46. Bob P. – I love these guys, but I believe the core that brings back the most value are Seabrook (his contract may make it hard), Crawford, and/or Kane (yes even the most dynamic offensive player in the league). Bowman’s hands have been tied because he has been nibbling around the edges and basically trying to fleece other teams. If he moves one or more of these guys packaged with some of our supporting cast, it would not be a desperation trade but a value for value blockbuster deal. He would be able to bring back quality young players and high picks in return while also alleviating some cap burden. I believe this is the only way we can stay highly competitive longer term.

    Face it, we have been riding the same core fore 7-8 years. Just like Q needs to roll four lines, Bowman has to roll the core infusing new blood into the core ever 2-3 years. Continuing to ride the same core moving forward just ensures that we will be a lottery team faster than anyone here would like.

  47. Booman: If Seabrook is traded, you’ll need. To replace him along with a number four d/man.To me Tuevo would be the one to trade. Drafted as a Center , Q has mis nurture this Kidd. Center man , winger , different lines and line mates. The longer Q does this , the more Tuevos’ trade value will deminish .Tuevo needs to center 2 big wingers. Weise and Panik type of guys. Let them built chemistry .
    Ville Pokka is suppose to be the #1 d-man, NHL ready prospect in Rockford. Not Q’ s type of guy. Rundblad got recalled ahead of him.I read that Frosling will if not already has surpass him as the #1 d- man prospect in Rockford.
    So perhaps a package of Tuevo. Pokka, McNeil , and Bickell will get good returns .

  48. Bob P. you nailed it above. The circuitous path or season for Rundblad. Kudos to him for wanting to go to Rockford when his season in the Swiss league ended.

    But his recall was startling. Q would not play him in the regular season and he had pretty much had dropped out of the top 10 on the depth chart.

    Then Q does an about face at the most crucial time of the year resurrects Rundblad and plays him over Rosy, Ehrhoff and Svedberg and to some degree minutes wise over Gustafsson in the last 2 games ?

    To me there is something very very strange about all of that. Upon his return q was telling the media that he looked “quicker” but to most observers, he looked exactly the same.

    Going forward does Rundy come to camp in the fall, with the upper hand on Gustafsson and Svedberg ?

  49. It would take 2 more seasons of blunders, mixed up lines and weird unexplained shenanigans then Q will be shown the door. I do not think any of that happens.

    The Rundblad situation is unexplainable to the fans, heck I don’t even understand that Kruger contract with the big $’s.

    No one is trading Kane or Crawford…those ideas are ludicrous in the extreme..they ARE the franchise from marketing to packing the house. Go outside and get some air for cripes sake.

  50. I love the game that Brent Seabrook brings, and can’t forget some of the times he’s come through in the clutch in the playoffs with goals and when he’s laid out players with outstanding hits at the right time. The flip side is that I think the contract he signed last year is for past performance, not future performance and that contract is going to wind up being like Hossa’s…
    If you happen to pick up Eddie O when he’s on the radio, he flat out states that there is a dearth of quality D-Men in the league available period, and the ability to make moves for the top talent is out of the reach of the Hawks with their cap situation.
    Both Haugh and Rozner pretty much wrote up identical columns at the end of this year about how the Hawks had quality D-Men ( Leddy to start….) but Q had issues with Leddy… There was a 10 year difference in age between Oduya (34 vs 24). Oduya had 10 pts in ’14-’15 and Leddy had 31. Salary costs are pretty much the same at present. Yes Q has three rings, but the best line I heard this week when someone asked Phil Jackson about the triangle offense and if it is still viable, his response was let me show you the 11 rings I have…
    I never heard Phil Jackson come out and say “he didn’t like a player”, I think it’s time for Q to eliminate that from conversation if the Hawks are going to continue moving forward…

  51. In a perfect hockey world, we have to run 4 lines and 6 D to be successful. We’ve already proven that we don’t always need the 6 D part of the equation, but we must have the 4 lines part of it. And that’s my beef with Q. I think Stan got us some great pieces at the deadline, pieces that looked to fit in well. We could have rolled 4 lines easily, but Q didn’t play anyone consistently, he didn’t give guys a chance to find chemistry, he didn’t believe in his squad. If this continues and we have the same line-blender, doghouse bullshit next year, I will be happy to see Q walk out the door. I don’t give a shit about his numbers. His accomplishments belong to the team, not to him alone. My allegiance is to the team.

  52. Tony — spot on, well stated analysis. In fact, after Ladd was acquired, Q stated later that evening or the next day — when questioned by reporters what he wanted — “… a couple of more forwards.” Clearly, Q wasnt comfortable (for good reason) w/ Mashinter & Rasmussen; thus, Bowman goes out and gets two pf the top bottom six forwards on the market.

    Tony has called it like it is — this is on Q, his failure for the second time in three years to roll four lines. I agree w/ Q’s own analysis, inconsistency in rolling four lines. Well Q, this is not on Bowman this year.

  53. Hail Tony!!!! Totally agree. Stop with the Binny’s commercials and focus on what has to be done with your players to win more cups.

  54. Mining Man,
    What is ludicrous is the belief that the aging core does not need to be updated. Patch work players aren’t cutting it any more especially when you have absolutely no cap flexibility to sign anyone worth a damn. The annual exodus of talent due to that inflexibility is also weakening this team. In addition, our success has resulted in poor draft positioning and our trades going going all-in have left the prospect cupboard relatively lacking in quality. If you think this path is one of success, you must live downwind immediately next to a factory spewing extremely polluted air.

  55. Crawford and Kane are not going anywhere, neither is Keith or Toews. It would be self destructive to move out Panarin, everyone else is up for possibilities.

    No factories up here whatsoever. Fishing, hunting, fly-in camps. Pristine really.

  56. Kane, Keith, & Toews are pretty much shoe ins to be here for years. Despite being the Hawks MVP the last year or so, I would not hold my breath on Crawford staying. Beside the big two, he may have the most trade value on the roster. I hope you are right and that Stan and staff are able to do more magic by finding next year’s rookie of the year someplace no one else has looked.

  57. “everyone else is up for possibilities”????????????? Unfortunately, those possibilities do not bring anyone of significance back in return, don’t give us valuable draft picks, and do not provide us any cap relief.

  58. Looks like the same needs that needed to be addressed at the begining of the season and at the trade deadline will need to be addressed once more . A PERMANENT LEFT WING for the Toews line and a #4 d- man.I hope Stan acts in this matter with a sense of URGENCY and not wait till the trade deadline . Earlier, it was posted that no team is willing to help the top dog. This is true if you are dealing with contending teams or teams in your on division.However I think you can deal with teams that are in the middle of the pack that you play twice a year. Doesn’t Philly owes us a favor for the two 2nd round draft choices we gave up for ( Hadn’t skated all year ) Timonen? Perhaps it’s time to collect.

  59. Please note what I copied from the NHL website regarding the trade for Timo…
    Philadelphia receives a second-round pick in the 2015 NHL Draft and a conditional fourth-round pick in the 2016 draft. If the Blackhawks win two playoff rounds and Timonen plays in at least 50 percent of the games, the fourth-round pick becomes a third-round pick in 2016.

  60. My mistake.But don’t you think that was Just a little TOO much to give for a player who was out the whole season?

  61. Without a doubt! However I have some thoughts about this whole situation which is self inflicted by the Hawks…
    On the North side of Chicago, the Cubs have this manager who operates in the most strangest of ways, he actually has conversations with his players.
    While the Cubs don’t have the league imposed financial constraints like the salary cap to deal with, what the Hawks have in common with the Cubs is that they have totally rebuilt their scouting and farm system from ground zero. In fact, the Hawks have been at this in a longer time period than the Cubs. I can reference the articles, but the Hawks started hording draft picks years before ’07.
    However the difference is that the Cubs had Theo who had a hand in a full scale renovation, as opposed to the Hawks who have a GM (Bowman) and a coach (Q) who haven’t had anyone actually be a part in the whole rebuilding process to have a dialogue with both parties to ensure a plan and understanding that there must be a cohesiveness to ensure success, which is even more imperative when having to operate within the constraints of the salary cap.
    If you saw my post yesterday about Leddy vs Oduya in 2015 and their comparative
    numbers, I have to begin looking at the relationship between Q and Bowman as one of where Bowman is being put in the position of have to “please” Q, or Q won’t play the players he’s happy with. Since when is any player in any sport supposed to pickup a new teams system within a couple weeks, and if you don’t you’re cast aside. We’ve seen this occur too much the past 2 years. And we’re not even on the subject of rookies. It’s the coach’s job to make sure that players adapt to his “system”. We have yet to see that happen, and the Hawks have had some very good talent to work with.
    Look at the Bulls with Phil Jackson and the triangle offense. It’s supposed to be THE most difficult offense to run. Look at how the Bulls were always moving players in and out for the 10 years Jackson was coaching them. Did they win because Jackson benched then when they screwed up? I don’t think so. Did they win because Jackson didn’t communicate with his players. I don’t think so.
    Every single one of us has to keep moving forward and grow and change how we
    operate to pay the bills. I think it;s time for Q to do the same to work with what he has now to keep winning. Please tell me if you think I’m wrong.

  62. Ray: That conditional 4th round pick became a 2nd round pick in this years draft . I did a 2016 Blackhawk’s draft tracker. 2nd round to Philly for Timo.The price for winning the Cup.

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