Scott Darling, Carolina Beat Blackhawks

In what has become a consistent theme for an inconsistent team, the Blackhawks followed up a strong performance against a playoff hopeful team with a mediocre night.

Carolina came into the United Center with Lemont native Scott Darling between the pipes, Teuvo Teravainen in the starting lineup and a handful of former Blackhawks in the lineup and behind the bench for the Canes.

Chicago got on the board first when Tomas Jurco tipped home a Brent Seabrook shot.

Because the Blackhawks hate having a lead this year, they held this one for only 4:30 before Jaccob Slavin scored a tying goal.

However, the mighty Blackhawks roared back and regained the lead on a Patrick Sharp goal less than five minutes later.

The first period would end with the Hawks being out-shot 11-9 but clinging to a 2-1 lead.

That lead wouldn’t last 70 seconds into the second period as Justin Williams, who started the period in the penalty box, tied the game.

With the game tied for almost 19 full minutes and the only penalty being called on David Kampf, the Blackhawks were out-shot 17-5 in the second period.

JF Berube was terrific all night and was truly the only reason the Hawks weren’t chasing a few heading to the third period.

In that third period, the Blackhawks would allow a go-ahead power play goal to Sebastian Aho while Sharp was in the box. Chicago would try, especially late, but never found an answer to the Aho goal. Darling was good when he needed to be.

Berube went to the bench for the extra attacker with two and a half minutes left in regulation but the Blackhawks managed to do nothing and lost to Darling and the Canes.

Three Blackhawks finished tied for the team lead with three: Jurco, Sharp and Kampf. Seabrook and Erik Gustafsson blocked four each to lead the team. And the top line of Jonathan Toews, Patrick Kane and Brandon Saad managed one shot on goal each.

57 thoughts on “Scott Darling, Carolina Beat Blackhawks

  1. Berube played great but the Hawks just stink. 2nd period you get out shot 17 to 5 Please! Times are going to be tough for awhile. Bowman must hopefully have something up his sleeve regarding the cap considering the way he’s spending. Good thing about tonight Darling got a win even though Berube out played him.

  2. Berube bailed the boys out all night long and deserved better. Very impressed with Carolina forechecking and quick sticks. Q needs to conduct intense passing drills before the next game. Pee Wees are better passers. I am not a Jurco fan but he has played better lately and at least goes to the net.

  3. Osterle is simply awful with the puck. His giveaways are brutal. Ruuta??? Too shaky and should have been placed on waivers or sent down. The contract for that much money is dumb. We need to get a real pro scout team that stops getting players at the age of 27, thinking they can suddenly be prospects. Makes no sense. Lazy!

    The problem remains Bowman’s lack of drafting success after the first round, not to mention horrible trades. As much as Debrincat has a great hockey IQ, you can see these last few games when the opposing teams are fighting for a playoff spot, he does not get his nose dirty because he is too small to be effective. He is not a top six forward. He could be good trade bait or simply stay as a 3rd line player with occasional time on the PP.

    Furthermore, when a team cannot beat an AHL goalie like Darling on the other end of the ice, we see the true weakness which is a lack of talent up front.

    Last note: I find it odd and disappointing that ROCKFORD sent a 6’3″ speedy foward like IACOPELLI to the ECHL but kept another smurf like player in Anthony Louis in the AHL, knowing that LOUIS will never make or have an impact with the HAWKS. Why not develop KNOTT or IACOPELLI how had 9 goals playing little minutes? We need to develop those guys who are higher draft picks with size and speed instead of another one of BOWMAN’s bogus late round smurfs who will never make the NHL.

  4. We usually not good in 2nd period, even on good record yrs.

    Much better to win against COL then CAR for high top pick. We win this game were only 1 game ahead of CAR, now were a comfortable 5. Were not going to fall or play bad enough to get to where teams like EDM and MON are. So its about staying ahead of these kind of teams. And wins half of the games while doing so. The games we have won recently have been fun. The cause is more important.

  5. Stan does have a knack for over paying his boys,.,.,.,should have told Rutta 1 million or take a walk ,Stan is not a shrewd deal maker at all . Nice to see Darling get the win .

  6. I agree, Stan not shrewd at all and must have a bad reputation with agents because they play hard ball with him and he always gives in.
    Watching Kempny tonight against LA, looking calm and agile.
    There are a number of ex-coach Q Dog House players in the NHL performimg well tonight.
    TEUVO, TVR, NORDSTROM, DALBECK…..? Kempny in LA? LEDDY?….HARTMAN??

    Once again, Dale Tallon’s Magic puts Florida back on the map. Arrogant Ownership put him aside in Florida after he made that team successful with great drafts and trades. They fired his great coach GALLANT, traded his leader on D to Vancouver without his consent. They bring him back and, like magic, the Panthers are back.
    Wirtz had a chance to fire BOWMAN after the playoffs and bring back Tallon. Ah well, too bad.

  7. Do like Gus 56, very skilled, good passer, creative and calm with the puck. If coach Q had given him an full 82 games last year with the HAWKS instead of demoting him to AHL, I think he would have made a solid contribution this season.

    FREE AGENTS: TVR, JOHN MOORE, EVANDER KANE, JACK JOHNSON, CALVIN DAHAAN,

  8. Toews,Saad and Kane had zero shots till the goalie was pulled. Toews and Saad were also -2.

  9. FRANCIS: “Hey Stan, I’ll take Bickell’s contract away from the AHL if you give me
    Teuvo?”
    BOWMAN: ” Great idea Ron, take Teuvo”
    FRANCIS: “Really?” Are you sure? Did you ask your Dad?”
    BOWMAN: “I don’t want to buy him out, or keep him in the AHL because it looks bad, or trade him and get nothing in return, so take Teuvo, we have Danault”
    Francis: “Great, thx stan, and say hi to your dad in Florida for me!”

  10. There they are – the pass sloppy Hawks are back. When the Hawks play like that, they have to be the worst passing team in the league. And it’s not even just attempted passes to team mates, it’s also the ineptitude in attempting the clear the puck out of the d-zone. There were times in the game tonight when a Hawk player had the puck within a few feet of the blue line and somehow managed to not clear the puck out of the zone.

    Carolina’s d-corps is pretty impressive, especially considering most of them are 23 or younger. They’ve drafted high quality d-men with their high draft picks and it’s resulted in a good young defense to build around.

  11. MIKITA, you are right about the Hawks being undersized. I said the same in an earlier thread. How can we create traffic in front of the net without strong players? Most of our shots are one-and-done or a weak rebound. An on our end, how can we clear traffic without physical D-men? In order to get under the cap, Bowman parted with some of our most physical players e.g. Byfuglien (huge loss), Brouwer, and Johns. Hold your judgement on DCat. He is off to a terrific start. Darling is better than our three backups this year.

    Agree with you about Bowman’s drafting and trades (most of them), although his trades have improved the past two years, such as Shaw and Darling.

  12. This loss pretty much means the only team we have a chance of catching is the Islanders.

    With 14 games left this becomes an “audition” for the players here. It’s really somewhat of a luxury at the NHL level to have that many games to evaluate guys.
    Usually it’s a couple of preseason games and a call up for “tweeters” to show what they have.

    Can Murphy be a #4 defenseman ?
    Is Gustafsson a decent puck moving defenseman capable of playing 16 to 18 minutes a night next year ?
    Ruuta is the new Rundblad but for $1 Million more. Any question about him and his playing time next year was answered with his $2 Million deal. Allan Walsh is an AMAZING agent.
    Is Jurco an NHLer ?
    Is Duclair just fast like Viktor Stalberg and nothing more ?
    Who will be the goalie who wants to be in Chicago more Berube or Forsberg ?

    What are we going to do with the cap money we have ?

    Fun being a fan for sure.

  13. yikes
    out of all the free agents I’d go after Kovalchuk. Hopefully Hossa comes back too……I’d consider Oduya as well for depth on the cheap, honeslty what defense do you all see that would be goood to sigN?

  14. Throw that one away and forget it. Hopefully we see Ejdsell make his way over next week and get a look at him and depending on what happens in ncaa regionals we could see Sikura in the lineup before the end of month and see how he looks too.

  15. Man, Teuvo is having a big year. I don,t hate Rutta, but I think he won the Bowman Lotto yesterday.

  16. COACH GM-we’re going to saved by Hossa at 40 and Kovalchuk soon to turn 35? (Oduya will be 37)
    I agree about D-Cat-he is playing less effectively the last few games, but agree with Original6 –guys do hit walls when they move up to another level, and this would be about where it would happen-25 + goal scores are hard to find and replace. Actually you could see it in many of the players-not much to be excited about at this point.

    Teuvo is much more patient with the puck now (you saw it when he played in U20) and he has that gift of whole ice vision and soft hands. Nice piece for the Canes.

  17. Mikita21– I agree w/ many of your comments… But- Iacopelli- is NOT fast… big heavy shot-yes… speed or IQ… NO

    OHNOW… be careful… you might catch the “wrath”… of the Kool-aid gang here!

    Ian- I hope you are right… Ejde and Sikura- get some games… I think BOTH are ready- to make a contribution next year… (won’t matter if the “Core” under performs)… but will improve the Team!!!

  18. Awwwwww! The race to the bottom is going well! First we catch Detroit and Edmonton! Then we bag the Habs and Canucks! Sweeeeeet! Then STAN- what do we do with all 3 first round picks??

  19. Generally good posts by all. The issues with Bowman aren’t his drafting, Tab has pointed this out before. He drafts quite well (especially forwards, tons of them in the league); his problem is signing and re-signing players — sometimes the wrong players (i.e. Bouma & Wingels) but more importantly the length and cap hits to the wrong players (i.e. Kruger, Anisimov as soon as they traded for him, and now the Rutta signing in particular).

    Maybe Bowman should solely handle drafts and signing of non-NHL free agents/European players, and let someone else handle all the re-signings and NHL player related transactions. This is where the problem is w/ Bowman.

  20. I watch parts of this game last night but watching the Hawks lately has been painful. Sadly my biggest concern moving forward is a older core not playing to their contracts and a horrible evaluation being made on players. The resigning of Gus and Ruttu seem completely baseless. I have nearly zero confidence in Bowman. The blue line needs a complete overhaul and really upping Gus and Ruttu tells me Stan doesn’t get it. How disappointing.

  21. It tells me that Stan knows he is not going to pay the term and annual cap hit to sign UFA Carlson from WASH, to best dman on the market, and maybe the only lock top pair guy.

    It also tells me he needs to hedge that if Jokiharu and Mitchell and Snuggerud and other D prospects need more seasoning in the AHL, it gives him the chance to provide them with that time. At the same time, when they are ready, it’s no big deal to shove aside Gus or Rutta for an up and coming young player. It would be for a more expensive/established free agent signee.

    Will that approach work? I have serious doubts. Pittsburgh didn’t climb out of their funk until they took a wild swing and traded for Phil Kessel. (not to mention changing coaches and systems which invigorated Crosby) We need the infusion of a difference making talent on our roster like that. But Bowman has neither the track record nor the stones to swing for the fences like that.

    What would it take to get Weber from Montreal? Identify other struggling teams and see if you can swing a deal for someone they have that we would need.

  22. Well this is a huge transition year for our D core for sure . We have 2 solid vets ,then we fall off quickly with Murphy , now it gets real bad with Oesterle .Rutta ,Dalstrom and Gustafsson , No G.M in their right mind would assemble such an ill equipped back end and honestly think the results could possibly be good ,.,.,then to really screw this up have the # 1 goalie get hurt and all you have is A.H.L material for back up ,.,.because the same mentioned G.M pissed away a solid ,tested back up away .

    I think we have some real good pieces up front , how about get and keep a solid stay at home D man ,a guy who has played more that 50 n.h.l. games , has good size and is tough ,.,.,is that to hard ?,.,.,oh Stephen Johns !

  23. maybe the only contract in the NHL worse than Seabrook’s is Shea Weber and we’ve got Hereismike saying that’s the guy Bowman should target?

  24. Real talk:

    If Corey Crawford was healthy all season
    AND
    If the Blackhawks had stuck w/ Hinostroza & Hayden out of camp instead of signing two of Bouma, Wingels & Sharp…

    Are they 10 points better as a team right now?

    Because 10 points is on the fringe of the Western Conference playoff picture. And I would absolutely argue that a healthy Crawford and a full season of Hino/Hayden instead of specifically Bouma/Sharp has this team 10 points higher in the standings.

  25. To be fair, finding and developing Darling won us our last cup, because we don’t get by Nashville without his performance. And he was going to be a UFA, and attract an offer that we would not have matched to have him back up Crawford and play 25-30 games a year. The failure was in the Panarin trade getting Forsberg and thinking he could step into the NHL and have success with zero NHL track record. Stan out smarted himself there.

    Big picture…getting outshot double by a non playoff Carolina team is a huge problem. When the plan is to bring back the entire defense core with bigger cap hits and hope Crawford is healthy and can bail them out, well, I think we need a new plan.

    The thing that will always hurt about losing Johns is that it was completely unnecessary. I have friends that decided to stop following the Hawks after that happened. I had been talking Johns up ever since we drafted him. But now we have to make the best of the situation we have, and other than waiting for the prospects and bringing the same cast back, we would have to swing a deal for a guy but I am not sure that is going to happen.

  26. Hereismike – I was a big Johns fan as well. And agree that he’s the type of defenseman the Hawks need.

    Which is why signing Dennis Gilbert when Notre Dame’s season ends must be a priority. I actually like Gilbert’s potential in the NHL more than Johns at this point in his career in South Bend.

  27. I hope Gilbert can get ready soon but if he needs a partial year in the AHL I hope they don’t rush him.

    I’m not advocating getting Weber he is just the first example I thought of of a guy who has talent, is paid a lot of money, on a struggling team that could get moved. Yes that contract will be ugly beyond belief before it’s over. But Kessel is the real example I am pointing to, we need whoever the D equivalent of that deal is, if it’s out there.

  28. Tab correct re at least 10 points better. Bowman also huge cap hit thrown at Panik for zero reason, nevermind that he got rid of him. We know Bowman can rid himself of mistakes.

  29. Agree Tab playoffs could easily gave been attainable with what you said and a few less posts and a few more pp goals too boot. Rutta if he can go to next level from early season play may be a gem, but not if its what has been seen since December. With him, Seabrook and Murphy plus hopefully Jokiharju ready to break in lineup next year the right side COULD be ok. But the leftside has alot of question marks. Keith needs a big bounce back and there is a void for someone to take some of his load so Q doesn’t have to play the guts out of him night after night all season. Hopefully some cap space is used to address that by FA or trade and have a dependable backup goalie.

  30. Stan tossed away Johns and Danault after 4 or 5 years of successful development. Same could be said of Dahlbeck who Q initially “liked” then did something wrong and was immediately trade bait (as well, if Q had trusted him we wouldn’t have had to overpay for the 4 nerve-wracking minutes per night of Kimo). Those are three pretty solid guys who would not have cost much either. I always thought Johns and Dahlbeck might make a nice pairing.

    Stan’s inexplicable overpaying on silly contracts and preference for smurfs, Q’s bizarre roster decisions, the apparent disconnect between them. the hackneyed One Goal marketing; it’s all gotten old. The org needs a major facelift and change of direction and only Rocky can make it happen. Unfortunately, because of our recent successes , it won’t happen this summer but it should. I’m afraid what we’re going to be stuck here for awhile.

  31. I guess my thought is if committing to the young guys on rightside then a veteran who be a top 4 guy on the left t9 help Keith and the young guys would go a long way. It would be great if Gilbert showed promise there but next year is asking alot.

  32. Here’s a “what if” to ponder.

    The Hawks have drawn the second most penalties in the league this season with 238 PP opportunities. However, they’ve scored the 9th fewest PP goals (37) because they have the 4th worst PP% (15.7%).

    If the Hawks PP% was just middle of the pack (Philadelphia’s 16th best PP% is 20.2%) – the Hawks would have scored (238 x .202 = 48) 11 more PP goals. How many more wins/point would that have meant?

    If the Hawks PP% was the best in the league (Pittsburgh’s 26.4%) – the Hawks would have scored (238 x .264 = 63) 26 more PP goals. How many more wins/points would that have meant?

    We do a lot of complaining about the d-corps, team defense, passing, etc., and rightfully so, but a healthy Crawford and a better PP would probably mean the Hawks are in solid playoff position.

  33. Jordyhawk-I’m starting to move more into the camp that a major shake-up is needed. Problem is it rarely happens.
    But the ‘One Goal’ mantra seems out of touch anymore. It will be interesting to see what unfolds in the next 18 months.

  34. Agree Noonan- A major shakeup is needed. That will be difficult for two reasons. Bowman does not see the problem and he is handcuffed by the poor player contracts he engineered.

  35. Unless the “ONE GOAL” target is exactly that… “see if we can score ONE goal!”
    That is such a dated slogan and a little insulting to us loyal fans- given the team performance ‘16, ‘17 and ‘18!

  36. How does a team go from being the number one seed in the Western Conference (The Penthouse) last year to becoming one of the worst teams (The Outhouse) this year?

    Conspiracy theory: SB and Q are in cahoots to have “the core players” tank this year, so they get a shot at the top pick in the draft lottery AND for the young players to agree to “cap-friendly” contracts to counteract SB’s contract debacle with said “core players”…

    Slogans: How about bringing back (instead of) “Cold Steel on Ice”, “Golf Shoes on Grass” or “One Goal PLEASE!”

    And can we finally dump Chelsea Dagger? It’s annoying as hell.

  37. noonan96 Hossa is sorely missed from the lineup-I do not believe everyone fully appreciates how good a player he was on the team; If the Powerplay wasn’t horrible and Crow was never hurt this is a playoff team; or at least just outside the playoffs (which isn’t saying much). Kovalchuk was almost playoff mvp last time he played in the league and was Hossa’s linemate during his 100 point season. If he’s cheap I’d say he may be the best bang for you buck free agent unless somebody picks a darkhorse.
    oduya is just a suggestion; my point more was was top tier defenseman is available?

  38. Agree that Hossa sorely missed, even at his age-it would be interesting to know what he thinks of this year. Kovie won’t be cheap (enough).
    Still Hossa at 40 with a year off won’t help much.

  39. I don’t think the the Rutta contract is an overpay for a UFA D man with his numbers – take a look this summer at the signings at see what the cost of a D man is

    Where you could debate is whether Rutta was worth bringing back at all but the contract- the contract seems fair

    If I were GM I might have let him walk but the Hawks are obviously banking on him being the player he was at the start of the year which was a player worth having in your line up

    At least it’s only 1 year he probably would have gotten equal $ and more term on the open market

    They still need to bring in at least one proven NHL D man IMO – I don’t think they’ll carry 8 D so one of Gus or Oesterle probably is not in the line up and Forsling probably is

  40. Raptor…….I am not only surprised, but I am IMPRESSED by the way you dug deep into the numbers and threw all that at us!! WOW! Nice job! It makes you think, what if we would have kept Panarin and maybe made another deal for a power forward? Maybe that PP% is a lot better.

    Our “D” was not as bad as some people were thinking, this year. I always thought that one of our big problems was our back pressure through the neutral zone.

  41. Good stats on the power play. I believe the biggest concern with the PP is the lack of a PP QB. The Hawks have gotten away with Seabroke and Keith as those blue line QB. Clearly nether is servicable in that role now because both have “lost a step”. The problem is those players are really hard to find. Considering none of the guys on that roster are those types of players I unfortunately see the powerplay improving any time soon.

  42. EB good read on the pp, just to add the Pens put up their numbers playing in conference where 10 of the worst 12 pks in league are 5 in their division and 5 in Atlantic. While Jets are almost as good a pp in a division where all 7 teams pk in top 16 pks in league and Pacific has the 3 best pks in league, pretty impressive.

  43. Just one more thought on the Hawks PP, and it’s one I’ve expressed many times, but really bears repeating in light of the PP stats I posted earlier –

    Duncan Keith on the PP.

    Keith has had a couple years where his shooting percentage has been adequate but those were outlier years. He has done many things well over his career but shooting the puck has never been one of them., and it’s gotten worse the last few years, especially this year.

    There are several weaknesses in Keith’s shot. First, he basically has no wrist shot that he can use unless he’s in close – certainly not from the blue line. The results in him needed at least a partial back swing before he strikes the puck which gives the defensive players and goalie that split second of time that is the difference between getting the shot through to the net or having it blocked. The problem is exacerbated because he doesn’t have a quick back swing / fore swing which means that not only is the shot slow to get off – it’s weak.

    Second, he can’t hit the broad side of a barn with his shot, so even when he manages to get the shot by the first defender it is rarely on net.

    The Hawks PP is hampered because they don’t have a shooting threat from the blue line when Keith is out there. Defenses can cheat a little because no one fears Keith’s shot because essentially he doesn’t have one. Any other d-man on the team would be a better option because every other d-man on the team has an appreciably better shot than Keith.

    I suspect Q hasn’t wanted to take Keith off the PP because Norris candidates need high point totals and get lots of their points on the PP. Keith’s Norris days are in the past, not only because he’ll never be a 50+ point guy again, but because sadly he isn’t the elite defender he used to be – he’s still pretty good defensively but not elite any longer. Q has to recognize that and do the right thing.

  44. ER, PP goals make additional goals. The multiplier effect.

    South, QB when 11 was on the point it was decent/mid pack.

    Not even Wayne Gretzky would have mad our PP better this yr. Bounces and breaks. You need 5 guys running a play/s or several motion loops. Move your ass.

  45. Ian, yea the East conference pulled even with Campbell for what 2 yrs. Now its Campbell with more good teams again. Its coming full circle.

  46. Ebony, outstanding analysis of Keith. Part of his declining productivity, I think, is the result of having to carry excessive minutes for years. He is probably a bit burned out. Hawks are not likely to be a serious contender for at least two years. With fewer minutes, he can offer a playoff-ready team decent value. Hawks should try to move him this summer to maximize return.

  47. Original with Keiths contract being one if league targeted ones signed prior to 2013 for recapture, makes him a less likely candidate to be moved. If he retired blackhawks would be stuck with majority of his cap hit until 22-23 season expiry date. Seabrook has no recapture but moving him would be tough at this point.

  48. Although no doubt Keiths shot seems to have lost something if pp was connecting a bit more and not hitting iron so much it wouldn’t be such an issue, same as no Crow makes things look alot worse in front of him than they are.

  49. So carolina has a budding young star in teravainen to build on for the future and the Hawks got rid of the last year of bickell’s contract to save on the salary cap so they could win now. Except they get swept by Nashville last year and dont make the playoffs this year. What a complete disaster. Call it out Hawks fans. stop being intimidated by bs salary cap and expansion draft arguments. management needs to be held accountable.

  50. Went to my final planned game of the 2017-18 season, against the ‘Canes. Picked up tix for six games before the season started, mainly looking to save some bucks and choose games where it was easier to get decent third level seats at lower prices. This means against teams that are not projected to be top tier in the league.

    Blackhawks’ record in those six games was 3-2-1.
    Considering the competition in those games, pretty much mirrored the season.

    Wins against Philly, Winnipeg and Arizona.
    Losses to Dallas and Carolina
    OT loss to Vancouver

    meh

  51. agreed morrison. im actually worried they are going to trade away dcat to get out of seabrooks contract. That would complete the strategy of trading away the future in exchange for (wait for it)…… absolutely nothing.

  52. No way. 12 is staying long time (at least for now).

    The cba will have free buyouts like the last one.

    Wouldn’t a regular buyout be same as retaining % salary in a trade. Might as well do regular buyout, when needed.

    Until we add a top pair ufa type caphit, we donot need to do it.

  53. Looking back two years without the ridiculous rose colored glasses, would you rather have Teuvo for 1 season and then gone via expansion draft or 2 years of Panarin?

  54. So your premise is that Teuvo was 100 percent gone for sure after 1 year (without any compensation) and there was absolutely nothing the Hawks could do to stop that from happening. Is that what you are asserting?

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