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Teuvo Teravainen: Wing, Not Center

After winning only one of his first seven faceoffs on Saturday night against the Dallas Stars, coach Joel Quenneville moved Teuvo Teravainen from his position centering the third line up to the “lottery spot,” skating with Jonathan Toews and Marian Hossa on Chicgo’s top line.

And, according to reports on Monday, that’s where the young phenom will stay.

Teravainen, 21, had nine points in 34 regular season games and 10 points in 18 playoff contests as the Hawks won the Stanley Cup.

The Blackhawks skated Artemi Panarin with Artem Anisimov and Patrick Kane extensively on Saturday night, and that line stayed together at the morning practice on Monday.

With Teravainen moving up to the top line, Andrew Shaw – who started with Toews and Hossa on Saturday – is back to playing center on the third line. He was with Bryan Bickell and rookie Kyle Baun on Monday. Newcomer Ryan Garbutt was on a line with Marcus Kruger and Andrew Desjardins.

42 thoughts on “Teuvo Teravainen: Wing, Not Center

  1. If only Philip Danault weren’t hurt. I think I’d flip Bickell and Garbutt but I can see why you’d want Garbutt and Shaw away from each other.

    I like the top 6.

  2. Teuvo as a top line winger? Yes please. His skill and speed are completely wasted at centre. I love the move.

  3. Our top 6 players playing on the top 2 lines, awesome! The 4th line looks great but that 3rd line kinda scares me, needs Dano and Paille somewhere down the line if we can open some cap space.
    Whats the word on Tikhonov ? Right now I’d rather see Garbutt and Tikhonov with Shaw and Baun with 16 and 11 getting limited minutes when 16 & 11 are killing penalties, probably Baun’s penalties.

  4. Excellent move to put 86 on the first line. He needs to be with finishers like 81 and 19. His talents were wasted on the third line. Hopefully this means Shaw moves back with 11 and 16. That was an excellent line last year in the playoffs.

  5. I agree Mike57, the third line does not inspire confidence. I wonder how long a leash they Hawks will give Bickell.

  6. Keen and quick move by Q. Agree 1000%. Garbutt & Shaw play the same style, either one fits quite well w/ Desjardins & Kruger (and NOT on the top line). Baun is not ready for the NHL yet. He will last a few games (like J. Hayes did) and they will send him down. Tikohnov will get a chance to play, and prove he is not, at minimum, a “Hawks system ready player”. There are enough forwards at Rockford that have ability to play third line slot. They need some offensive punch, so we’ll see how this plays out.

  7. I’ve been lamenting about this for a while. Teravainen is not an NHL Center. Surely not a 3rd line C. Top 6 forward is great, but I’d still put him with Kane and Shaw on the 2nd line. He and Shaw can switch and each can play C based on situations. And Shaw can take the face-offs.
    That would solve the weak looking 3rd line as it would free up Anisimov-Penarin for a suddenly killer 3rd line.

    My belief is that during the season -with the recall of Dano and the growth of Braun- this is exactly what’s going to happen. One of them will go on the Toews line and one on the 3rd line, freeing Teravainen who can then play with Kane.

    PS: And in order to be updated on the predictions of the one and only Rufus here’s what he had to say Sunday about the subject:

    Rufus T. Firefly
    October 4, 2015 at 8:51 am
    “Teuvo needs to be third line center. Period. He is NOT a wing.”

    Man… ahahahahh

  8. Totally off topic – the NHL has suspended Raffi Torres for 41 games for another hit to the head the other night. Why don’t they just throw the prick out of the league and get his useless career over with?

  9. Love it, Tuevo needs to skate w other high end talent, and see more minutes great move.

    I would assume Panarin plays 2nd LW
    Bickell or Shaw gets 3rd.

  10. In regards to Shaw. That’s why I wish Danault wasn’t hurt. Danault and Kruger as 3/4c. Shaw on wing everybody is happy.

    Could you imagine Danault and Dank being on the same line? That’s gonna be a nightmare. Can hear Foley now “Danault gains the line drops it to Dano, back to Danault…”

  11. Dickie Dunn – Shaw is not a Center, but he was playing Center on that dominating line that almost beat the superior Kings almost by itself 2 playoffs ago. He’s not a C, but he can play C with the right Wingers.
    If you put him on a line with Teravainen they can both play C depending on the situations.

  12. These are the lines I’d like to see by the end of the year.

    1st) Teuvo – Toews – Hossa
    2nd) Panarin – Anisimov – Kane
    3rd) Tikhonov – Shaw – Dano
    4th) Desjardins – Kruger – Garbutt

  13. If Hinostroza plays well enough and picks up the system maybe a 3rd line of
    Shaw – Hinostroza – Dano
    That group could be a really pesky bunch

  14. Wayne is right and I think we will see Desjardins taking quite a few faceoffs.

    Lots for Yanic Perreault to do this year … he will also be working closely with Tanner Kero and Vinny Hinostroza in Rockford.

  15. Shaw did win 50.1% of his faceoffs- Q loves him there and I agree that I like him better at wing where he has less responsibility and can bang around a little more but until we get a better option he will be our 3rd line center.
    I know there are a lot of people that don’t like Shaw — “he takes too many penalties” but he probably draws more penalties than he takes so there’s that. Plus he just works hard and Q loves that.
    It’s gonna be fun, we might have a better team than last year. Let’s drop the puck!

  16. Faceoff dominance won us the Cup last year – among other things, of course. But if we didn’t crush Tampa at the dot to the tune of 217 to 143, we’re not raising that banner on Wednesday. Anisimov has to stay healthy, and we do need to find an answer for the third line.

  17. Is it possible they would move Krugs to 3rd line center in between Shaw and ___ and then have Garbutt center the 4th line where he and Desi could take draws? Just a thought

  18. Good move by Q, not sure if 88 and 72 on the same line , whose the power forward? Time will tell .

  19. Cap question- with all the roster activity does anyone know where the hawks stand with the cap? I lost track but my first thought is they have some room now.

  20. Great move to put TT on the first line. Baun is not NHL ready. Bickel should be gone after 9 games. His laziness has cost him his career. I would love to see the 4th line of last year remain intact. I like Shaw to stay with Krugs and Desi. BTW. did anyone notice that Shaw did not take any stupid penalties in the SCF. That was Desi’s influence on him. Please keep them together.

  21. Dumdum – Shaw is by far more effective as a RW. (- especially with Kruger and Desjardins…supported by play “on that dominating line” thru last season’s playoff run) I believe Shaw has stated that he is (better/primarily) a wing. I can see the benefit of having Shaw take draws then move to wing if he plays with a center weak on faceoffs. Except for net front presence on the powerplay, he seems to perform better at wing – maybe it’s the defensive responsibility? Or maybe he can do his physical thing more on the wing?

    “Faceoff dominance won us the Cup last year” (Tony) – yes…Vermette was amazing.

    Teravainen getting Top Six ice time is great (to be expected/was earned) and he should do well with 19 and 81 — gotta like that. The rest will work out – no problem.

  22. Milton, I don’t think it’s laziness on Bickell’s end. This is a common problem with players that play his style. Dustin Penner and Chris Stewart come to mind.

    Bickell was 24 when he played his first full NHL season. He has posted .37ppg for his NHL career in the regular season. Last year he posted .35 ppg. His high water mark of the lockout season was .47ppg. All regular season numbers. Then posted .73(17 points in 23 playoff games)

    Let’s think back to that 12/13 team. Saad and Shaw both rookies. Viktor Stalberg had identical regular season numbers to Bickell, then crapped the bed and had 3 points in 19 playoff games. Saad had 6 points in the playoffs, but outpaced Bickell by 4 in the regular season. Bickell outscored everyone except Kane. Based on his career path to that point was it fair to expect that playoff production from this point on? No. And the Hawks didn’t pay him that. Unfortunately his career path from that point has regressed to his average. Something I would suspect happens with Matt Beleskey. It clicked for one year. He just so happened to be in a contract year. I don’t think he was lazy prior to or after that season. For one reason or another it just clicked.

    Last year he had injuries and vertigo. Now he’s in Q’s doghouse and still apparently battling vertigo. The contract was bad the day it was signed. End of story. With that, I don’t necessarily fault Stan for signing him. I guarantee that would have been his market value and hindsight is always 20/20.

  23. Ryan/Mike57
    I agree- don’t like that 3rd line… Shaw is sloppy exiting his zone…. Baun has been prone to mistakes (when he tries to do more than he can)… Bickell is Bickell…

    Much rather see Tiko /Hino/Dano/ Paille- sooner than later any combo with Shaw and Garbutt thrown in

    the 3rd/4th are going to give almost no offense as is… and take too many penalties

    like Ryan’s lines

  24. Good call out Tony re Torres. What a sick POS that guy is and always will be. He should be out of the league. It’s bad enough to run a guy like that in the regular season but in pre-season????? WTF??? Shame on anyone that has ever signed that cheap shot artist. The shot he laid on Hossa was one of the most nauseating things I have ever witnessed live. I still remember UC fans coming out in the intermission with this collective look of sadness/shock at seeing Hoss down and in clear distress. Lest we not forget the nasty number he did to Seabrook.

    Meanwhile Q will spin the lines as he see’s fit. It’s a long season and there are lots of options to experiment with.

    Let’s Go Hawks!!

  25. Guys call me old fashion. I like all the line combinations talked about. I just don’t see any protection when teams want to slow down our skilled players. Hopefully, as in the past no one can slow us down. Desjardins and Garbutt will get work out on the ice. Shaw could put a little more pounds on. Hey is it 7:30 yet on Wednesday?

  26. Dickie Dunn – of course Shaw is better on the wing, but what can you do ? The Hawks have only 3 real C. The question becomes who’s the 4th C.
    Shaw is the best option in my mind because the team gains at all levels. But I don’t want Shaw as the 3rd line C. I want him with Kane and stick Teravainen there. What you gain is having them switch with each other at C during shifts and situations and a killer 3rd line based on Anisimov-Penarin (plus Dano most likely).
    Any Kane line is a strong line by definition. You put Teravainen with him and the C has to do grunt work. Toews-Hossa can dominate with anybody on their line.
    the X factor line would be that 3rd line. If expectations are reached… a 3rd line Penarin-Anisimov-Dano (Braun, Garbutt) would be next to unstoppable.

    Match up with Toews-Hossa, Kane-Teravainen, Penarin-Anisimov, Kruger-Desjardains I dare you. You can’t. Especially if Kruger takes your first line and holds ground at a solid level. Opposition 3rd and 4th lines have to match-up with those 3 pairs. It should be fun.

  27. So I understand Shaw is not a real C and this and that… but on a big picture level that’s rather meaningless: in depth potency, 2 way game, match-ups, strategy the Hawks dictate everything.
    And when you catch up Coach Q changes shit up and you’re again chasing butterflies…playing a game you’ve already lost.

  28. Dumdum- Interesting. But, we all know, and Hof and others have pointed-out, that Q will change things up (often, regularly). There does seem to be some chemistry developing between Anisimov and Kane – maybe Q will see where that goes?

    I see Svedberg went to Rockford and Pokka returns to Chicago. I guess Svedberg was getting a long look – and has things to work on.

  29. Dickie Dunn – I wasn’t talking about tomorrow or next week. I was talking about the long plan. The end of season, playoff configuration. I’m okay with any sort of combination during the RS. I’m a huge fan of Coach Q for testing, trying and researching. That’s what Popovich and Belichick do in their sports. Constantly challenge the players, the staff, themselves… so the team can be ready when the real season starts.
    My point is that in the long run I’d rather see a 4 line team, rather than overloading the top 2 lines. My prediction is than Coach Q will also go that way. Meanwhile he’ll toy with the lines like it’s going out of fashion. Good for us fans…it’s pure fun.

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