2020 NHL Draft Profile: Jack Quinn
The 2020 NHL Draft begins tomorrow. Chicago owns the 17th overall selection in the first round. Over the past eight days we have discussed the following players:
Let’s now turn our attention to the OHL.
Jack Quinn
RW
5-11 / 176 pounds
Ottawa 67s (OHL)
Ranked #16 by ELITEPROSPECTS.COM
Ranked #20 by FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS
Ranked #10 by ISS HOCKEY
Ranked #6 by TSN/CRAIG BUTTON
Ranked #10 by MCKEEN’S HOCKEY
Ranked #7 by NHL CENTRAL SCOUTING (NA Skaters)
Ranked #11 by CONSOLIDATED RANKING
Ranked #10 by TSN/McKenzie
From Corey Pronman (The Athletic):
Overall: #16 prospect
Skating: 50
Puck Skills: 65
Physical Game: 45
Hockey Sense: 60
Quinn had a massive 18-year-old season in the OHL, scoring 50 goals as a leading player on the best CHL team and breaking out into a legitimate top prospect. He scored a ton of goals, but I wouldn’t really call him an elite sniper. Rather Quinn is just a super skilled and smart player who scored a lot of goals around the net. He has very quick twitch hands and the ability to embarrass defenders 1-on-1. He sees the ice at a top-end level even though he didn’t have nearly as many assists as goals. It’s not just his vision, but his overall creativity and patience. He often saw plays on the ice that I couldn’t see materialize. The main reason for his sudden rise in stock was the continued improvement in his skating. It’s not a strength of his, it’s no longer a weakness, but it will be his main hurdle for the NHL level. Quinn is solid off the puck, playing PK for Ottawa, although I wouldn’t call him a physical player.
Andre Tourigny, coach of the Ottawa 67’s, on Quinn: “He has a lot of skill. He has great hockey sense, he’s smooth, he can shoot it, and competes away from the puck.
From LastWordOnHockey.com:
Skating
Quinn’s skating drastically improved between his first and second OHL season. He is much faster and has better acceleration and this has made him far more dangerous. They now rate as good to very good. His edgework and agility have also improved. Combining these skills, Quinn is able to make quick moves on the defence, and once he gets by them he can accelerate to the net. He is also stronger on his skates, with better balance, and the ability to fight through checks and get to the front of the net. This also helps him to win battles on the boards. This is an aspect of his game that should continue to improve as he matures and becomes stronger in his lower body.
Offensive Game
Quinn is a sniper who can score in a variety of ways. He has an excellent wrist shot and a quick release. He often uses his quick hands to pull off a toe-drag just before shooting, varying his release point and creating issues for goalies. Quinn can also score with a snapshot, one-timer, and even on the backhand. He is also good in close to the net, with the quick hands to pounce on a rebound, bang in a pass from a teammate, and tip in a shot. Quinn has the smarts to find the open spaces in the defence and get open for that pass from a teammate.
While mainly a goal-scorer, Quinn has become a more complete player as the season has gone on. He has become a better playmaker, showing off his vision and passing skills. He has also worked to become better on the boards, winning battles and creating more scoring opportunities. With his improved stickhandling and skating ability, Quinn has become much better at maintaining possession and working the puck in the cycle game. He shows high-end hockey IQ as he often makes the smart pass with the puck on his stick. Once he moves the puck, he finds open space for a give-and-go.
Defensive Game
Quinn is a hard worker who brings that effort and energy to all three zones. While he is not going to throw huge hits, he is willing to engage physically and battles for loose pucks. He effectively brings backpressure to support the defence against the transition game. Quinn has an active stick and works well at cutting down passing and shooting lanes. He is not afraid to put his body on the line to block a shot. His smart positioning has made him an effective penalty killer. He also brings the threat of offence. Once a turnover is created he is quick to get out in transition to create a scoring chance.
Projection and Comparison
Quinn’s goal-scoring ability, hard work, and effective two-way game give him the ability to become a top-line winger if he develops to his full potential. He could still get stronger and continue to improve on his skating so further development time is required. One more year at the OHL level, and perhaps a chance to compete in the World Juniors is on the horizon. Quinn’s game is reminiscent of Mark Stone of the Vegas Golden Knights, but this is a stylistic comparison only and not one based on talent or ability.
Mock Drafts
Mark Stone is 6’3″ need a more comparable comparison.
Last post on Bowman from Maata thread:
Someone noted there may be more to the story, cuz the cliff notes on the Bowman dumpster fires are numerous and not yet complete.
Saad for Anisimov and a big Anisimov contract. Medium dumpster fire.
Maybe the guy has dirt on Wirtz.
Maybe the Hawks are beholden to Scotty Bowman for reasons we do not know.
What we do know is the cliff notes on Stan Bowman’s dumpster fires warrant immediate dismissal.
To not see that is to not want to see it.
If you go to bat 10 times. You strike out 7 times. You get 3 hits. You could go to the Hall of Fame. So PP and others can you list a good move for every 7 bad moves? Or is it the bad moves you are only looking for.
Example:
Finding Panarin = good move
Not signing Panarin = bad move
Bad move, bad move, bad move, bad move, bad move, bad move
Barker for Leddy = good move x 7 bad moves
Drafting TT x 7 bad moves
Drafting Dach x 7 bad moves
Oduya x 7
Darling x7
JR
Baseball analogy will get you fired in the real world.
You know that, right?
A GM in hockey gets 3 out of 10?
His team fails.
Plus: Leddy Oduya and Darling?
Added pieces to a powerhouse he inherited many years ago….
What he has built in the last 4 years?
Dumpster fire.
I will always and have always given Stan Bowman credit for manipulating the Salary Cap and keeping that powerhouse team he inherited on track to win.
However that team is long gone, and the team he has built, not inherited?
Dumpster fire.
Too many failures warrant dismissal.
Just like the real world.
Bowman dumps the Bickell contract we give up Teuvo to complete the steal
Montreal dumps the often injured Shaw and his contract and we add draft picks to complete the steal.
Pittsburg dumps the Matta contract.
Corolina dumps the often injured Calvan de Haan plus his contract.
Do you notice the pattern? We dump salary and give a sweetener to complete the deal.
These other teams dump salary and where is our sweetener to take on these contracts?
Bowman with probably some help from McDonough have made a lot of dumb moves.
The @Perimeter Player “facts” machine must’ve received new belts and hoses over the weekend.
I’ll repeat what I said in the Maatta thread. We live in a time where “feelings and opinion” masquerade as “facts” with the sole purpose being to rewrite the facts.
Whenever an argument Is made using data points only from one side of the ledger, then the argument is going to be emotional and biased. Is Stan the World’s Best GM? No. As best as I can’t determine, the argument against Stan is “that he hasn’t been able to sustain continued top tier/SCF contender success.” That argument is always made without the following context: the Hawks’ stars are aging, the Hawks’ stars, though very very good, have been better collectively as a team than as individuals—meaning no one from the core dominates so much so that they tilt the ice (Kane being the possible exception) and also meaning they’ve never had anyone like Sidney Crosby, and the facts machine conveniently ignores that pro hockey has had and continues to have the harshest salary cap environment for any pro sports league—since the Penguins, only the Lightening have had sustained mammoth success, just now winning their first and probably only S.C.
Stan certainly has missed, but his hits are pretty good too. The Hawks were among the first to incorporate Money Ball analytics which shows in the results their much above average Scouting Department achieves, especially in Europe. Where I think Stan should take heavy criticism, they’ve been organizationally impatient in development curves for players and contract negotiations—cutting bait too quickly. I attribute this to trying to find lighting-in-a-bottle while Keith and Toews remain first line talents. Being impatient is correctable, not a fatal flaw. With their new strategy of rebuilding with youth, it’s naturally correctable.
Again, I don’t care to change anyone’s opinion, but come on, open both eyes.
Aurora Hawk is my hero – way to tell it like it is.
I posted similar kudos to Aurora Hawk in the previous post but Tab is a post writing machine these days, which is great, but it’s hard to maintain the continuity of running themes. Luckily in this case PP won’t be deterred in his prosecution of Stan so we have a nice bridge from Maatta to Quinn.
Now, on to the topic of this thread – Jack Quinn.
I’d be leery of drafting Quinn because his best attribute is shooting and scoring goals, which in and of itself is very good, but he played with Marco Rossi on Ottawa so it could be a case of both players benefiting by playing with the other. He doesn’t have good size and as a winger he wouldn’t be in the top-5 of players who could be available at #17.
Thumbs up Aurora.
Best post here in months by a long shot. We need more level headed thinkers!
Thank you for sharing.
Sure keep Bowman.
No Cup in the Hawks future as long as he is in the GM position. Who cares?
He is lord, god, king of all GMs.
His performance since 2015 had been abysmal.
But hey, let’s all drink the Bowman kool aid and keep giving the guy a pass.
I am all for it. Hurray for Bowman.
Let’s not let failure get in the way of tenure.
Good thing his decision making was not part of DDay.
Today Europe would be standing and reciting parts of Mein Kampf before soccer games.
Aurora good post agree, unfortunately the Bowman haters onesided lack of credibility in their attacks, tends to discredit the legitimate articles Tab and other credible writers have written on the subject, so fans can make their own minds up on it. Personally i have a hard time seeing the current Gm-coach combo being the final answer but Rocky Wirtz by firing McDonough and putting his son in charge shows an awareness to get the right people and direction for the organization. They are astute businessmen and have proven they know what their doing, more than enough to know who that should be and prove me wrong in. See what next 2 years bring.
Quinn agree EB seems to have all around question marks, but he looks like he could help produce alot of offense.
Nothing like comparing bowman to d-day and mein kampf
Classy
Good post m@Aurora
People have different opinions on things. I think that’s OK, isn’t it? Isn’t it better when different opinions are expressed rather than suppressed? Especially when it’s done without personal attacks or hyperbole?
BTW – the answer is ‘yes’.
Final thoughts before returning to lurking: everyone’s run ends sometime and it’s clear the Wirtz’s trust Stan to pivot the organization behind the waves of youth coming through the system. If it flops, Stan’s gone, as he should be. But, not before. He’s earned it by being a B+ kind of GM with upside to become an A kind of GM.
The only thing I would add to Aurora’s level-headed analysis is that the recent track record for Bowman (read: the last 5 years) has been C- work. We wrote as much in December at The Fourth Period. Last offseason he added redundant defensemen in Maatta & de Haan, and now moves Maatta for cap space. In a hard cap environment teams with legit Cup aspirations rarely take on expensive bandaids (read: more than $3.5M) and it certainly appears that Maatta qualifies as such, at the expense of Kahun – a forward with value.
One hallmark of Bowman’s tenure is a willingness to move young players/prospects to add to the now roster at the NHL level. This speaks to either a lack of faith in developing prospects or a lack of confidence in the prospects in the system. If the Blackhawks are frequently willing to move prospects for veterans, even five years removed from a championship, there either needs to be changes in the scouting group or the coaching staff developing said prospects.
Congratulations PP – your post comparing SB’s record to D-day success may win the gold medal for craziness.
Quinn looks like a taller Debrincat.He would be a possibility if the Hawks could move Strome and Debrincat for Domi and the Canadians #16 pick.We could get 2 out of the 3
Holloway/Jarvis/Quinn.
Crazy is my middle name.
If u can’t see the humour, then you better check the mirror my brother.
C minus work gets one fired in my profession.
What about yours?
TimW i think Quinn could be somebody who can produce high end offense and play defense, battling for pucks without getting ragdolled, could become a good asset in a hurry.
I love Stan.
Best GM in history of game.
It bullshit. And my bullet points proved it.
You can warm and fuzzy it all you want with verbiage that warms one’s soul.
Bottom line is with that track record of failure, and we have not even mentioned Panarin, if you think he deserves to stay, then have at it…. spend top dollars to sit in the UC and watch them get beat more often than they win.
Hell I don’t care. I no longer live in Chicago and have tons of Chicago Stadium memories and recent Cup memories to sustain me into my golden years.
He did good at managing a power house.
He failed at building one.
Coming up to rfa time for qualifiers. Unless a trade or resigned happens would think Kubalik, Strome and Koekkoek are given Qos. With Cagguila and Subban, easier to see them not being qualified to me unless they are higher on Subban than it seems. Fortin and MacCosham are not likely offered Qos, while to protect their rights Nilsson and Tuulola could be, even though they signed to play in Europe.
Good post Aurora
If Stan had been fired by now most of us wouldn’t have cried foul but he hasn’t and as Aurora says he seemingly won’t be anytime soon like it or not
I’d rather debate and discuss whatever moves Bowman makes from here on rather than whether Stan should be fired or not – we all know where everyone stands on that question
Well so far Wraparound,
GM wizard has re upped a wash out in Pirri for a rotten draft pick in Sikura,
He has dumped a UFA signed dman from last year for a minor leaguer, and has yet to secure a goaltender.
I’d say he is simply kicking butt at his job.
Then the lights came on.
But hell, what do I know?
I only saw Bobby Orr, Gordie Howe, the Espositos, Bobby Hull, Ken Dryden and Jean Beliveau play the game…. many times as there were only 12 teams in the league.
I lived thru the horrendous teams of the late 70s and endured the Bob Pulford decades.
I obviously don’t know shit about this game.
Not nowhere as much as the younger set that knows all nowadays.
Long live rotten GMs.
Seen it once with this team (Pulford), why not see it again in Bowman?
MORRISON
October 5, 2020 at 6:25 pm
I donot have anything against Bowman but Danault pissed me off. Even though I knew why we did it because we didnt do anything in 14 so your going for 2 Cups in a row for the second time in 3 yrs you then have to add because you didnt in 14. That I understand just liked Danault.
MORRISON
October 5, 2020 at 6:45 pm
Bowman and crew be around and unless were way off in a couple yrs as the young wave emerges with the roster then yea. These guys are here for these yrs coming up. Bowman could get new coaches/team system if not going well then see how that goes then if still not then new gms.
Bowman has done it before with a stacked roster to work with to chisel but he did it almost 3 in 4 yrs/basically that. He can do it and like your saying if hes not tied down to things like that we ll see the roster going where we want it to here in the next 24 mths.
Perimeter are you wall?
Just been around long enough to see and know bullshit when I hear it.
C minus work says young Tab.
And that keeps a man employed?
With a lineage of failure s in his recent history, no less.
Funny how no one had disputed my bullet points, point by point.
Holy crap, what a world.
Why not give Bowman a participation trophy?
BTW:
Pulford told us that Wayne Gretzky did not fit long term plans when he was a UFA before joining the Rangers in the 90s.
Pulford stuck around, so why shouldn’t Bowman?
He has not done something that dumb…… yet.
PP – LIke I said we all know where everyone stands especially you on Bowman
Unfortunately you embarrass yourself when you play the age card – how quaint that you were around for the 12 team NHL – in other words you missed the 1961 CHI Cup which was when I became a Hawks fan and the NHL was only 6 teams
That doesn’t mean I know more than you or any of the other posters who are younger than me (presuming most are younger) – what it means is that someone’s post should be judged by the quality of their opinion regardless of age
The fact that you saw Bobby Orr play more than some (although maybe not more than me) doesn’t make your opinion right except in your mind
Even though Bowman/and crew has make mistakes they always fix them when they can. So lets see what we get roster adjustment and then young wavers upside and who we add next summer.
Also getting a 5h for Scott and 3rd? for Bollig. Theres been more good then bad and 3 Cups/really 4 to with that nasty triple cheeseburger.
I am kind of looking at this yr as where were at roster wise next summer.
Wraparound,
Not the least bit embarrassed by my age.
Me thinks thou doth project?
I am proud of my knowledge of the game, the caliber of players I was blessed to watch, and how I played (when I was able).
Will put my knowledge up against anyone, anytime.
May not win them all, but I will give one a run for the money.
Like I said, funny how no one disputes my bullet points on Bowman’s egregious failures.
Those bullet points are facts. Bad moves by Bowman.
You know that if you have been around as long as you say, and have seen some of the lousy moves by this organization over those years.