2021 NHL Draft: Who do the early mock drafts think the Blackhawks will select?
On Wednesday night we learned, officially, that the Blackhawks own the 11th overall selection in the first round of the 2021 NHL Draft. The only team that moved in the draft lottery was Seattle, which bumped up from third overall to second.
So who might be on the Blackhawks’ radar when they’re on the clock? Let’s look at who some of the mock drafts are projecting to Chicago.
The Athletic – Scott Powers (June 3)
Matthew Coronato, RW
Chicago (USHL)
5-10, 183
Shoots: right
Comments: “This might be a little high from where most draft experts expect Coronato to go, but the Blackhawks have proven that matters little to them. They’re going to draft whomever they project to be the best player regardless of what others think. The Blackhawks know Coronato quite well. Probably no NHL team saw him and the Chicago Steel as much in person as the Blackhawks did this season. Coronato’s numbers speak for themselves, as he scored 56 goals in 59 USHL games. What was especially impressive about that production was he scored in so many different ways. There’s not just one way to contain him, and that should help the probability of him becoming a future top-six NHL winger. A league source thought his ceiling could be comparable to Brad Marchand due to Coronato’s similar size and blend of offense, motor and feistiness. Coronato’s high-pace style is a lot like the way the Blackhawks have expressed they’d like to play. He’ll probably need a year or two at Harvard before joining the Blackhawks.”
SportsNet – Sam Cosentino (June 2)
Fabian Lysell, RW
Luleå HF (SHL)
5-10, 172
Shoots: right
Comments: “This pick comes with some risk as well, but at his best, Lysell is the most dynamic, game-changing player in the draft. The youth movement fueled by some inexpensive surprises (Kurashev, Suter, Hagel), allows Stan Bowman to swing for the fences here.”
NHL.com (June 3) – Adam Kimmelman
Chaz Lucius, C
USA U-18 (NTDP)
Comments: “Lucius’ skating is as good now as it was before he missed the first four months of the season with a knee injury. The forward (6-1, 185) is strong around the net in the offensive zone and has an NHL-caliber shot that he used to score 13 goals in 13 games this season.”
NHL.com (June 3) – Mike Morreale
Carson Lambos, D
Winnipeg (WHL)
6-1, 197
Shoots: left
Comments: Lambos (6-1, 197) is a two-way defenseman who has showcased good patience in the defensive zone and in transition. He played two games in the Western Hockey League before sustaining a lower-body injury. The 18-year-old scored 11 points (two goals, nine assists) in 13 games on loan with JYP in Finland’s junior league.
NBC Pro Hockey Talk – Sean Lahey (May 7)
Chaz Lucius, C
USNTDP (USHL)
6-0, 172
Shoots: right
Comments: “Although his draft year was hampered by first a lower body injury and then COVID, the latter of which prevented him from joining his teammates at the U18s, when Lucius played, he was fantastic. Most people notice the goal scoring (13 in 13 games), or the playmaking, but watching him closely, he also does a lot of little things that aren’t necessarily picked up in the scoresheet, but help his linemates succeed. His game style is well-suited to the NHL and a couple of seasons with the Minnesota Golden Gophers will make sure he is ready to hit the ground running (hit the ice skating) when his time comes. I could also see the Blackhawks considering William Eklund, or local talent Matt Coronato at this spot.”
Not exactly the size of player being demanded by the most vocal people here. I guess it’s gonna be a long summer/ off season for those looking hoping for a 6 foot 6 inch power forward.
I heard a comment made on NHL Network I will paraphrase: 16 of the top paid 17 players in the NHL either didn’t get into or make it past the 1st round of the playoffs. Carey Price is the exception.
So much for the impact of star players and the highest draft picks. Hockey remains a team game.
Drafts , sometimes things don’t pan out with draft choices ! Like SS says ! Hockey is a Team thing ! It also involves playing both ends of the ice ! It also involves living in that great city of Chicago and playing in that world class atmosphere of the U.C. ! Philip from Hamilton Ontario
It’s a tough call. You basically have to project what you are going to need in 3-4 years. Toews may call it quits by then, but you should have Kane, DBC, Dach, Reichel in the top 6. Maybe Kubalik, and who knows which of the rookies that played this year. You never want to overlook a potential sniper. The one kid has a ceiling of Marchand. That sounds great, but what if his offense turns more into Marchment. I guess you just go BPA and hope for the best.
This site has stated that the Hawks have a log jam on the blue line and some people at forward will have to go. They only have one goalie that they like and many on other sites think he is only a backup and that the Hawks are waiting on a kid on a so-so NCAA team. What about a goalie like Wallstedt? He was the only goalie listed on the NHL top 32 prospect list and at #10!
Use the #11 pick as part of of package to get Seth Jones, but only if he signs an extension. Btw, not sure if it’s been mentioned but Lukas Reichel did in fact return to play for team Germany after taking that nasty hit last week. Phew.
If we trade this pick, I would prefer a young, controllable player who will be ready for the NHL in a year or 2 in return, one who is likely to be a mid pair Dman, with potential to make top pair.
Sweeten as necessary.
Some short, kind of fast guy who’s suspect on defense and not good on faceoffs. Don’t have an idea who his name will be but I nailed this pick!!!
Hammer …your description sounds like the prototypical hawk forward ,you left out Soft and injury prone but …..
likely baby bowman will revert to his default position of feeling he is the smartest guy in the room and knows what no one else does. translation. at #11 a guy rated as 25th best player or worse in the draft by most respected sources who is undersized no matter what position he plays. in plain english a guy you wouldn’t be happy with as a second round pick.
baby bowman did not build the first cup team. to his credit his tweaks produced two additional cups although that is not saying he couldn’t have done a better job, which would have kept the team relevant and competitive going forward. full marks for the team falling apart under his tutelage. and fuller marks to rocky wirtz for sitting around and watching mc donough and bowman lay waste to this team. his desk is truly where the blame goes.
although i am one, it is very difficult being a fiercely loyal fan to this franchise.
I like the idea of Seth Jones (6’4″) – so-called defensive-minded D-Man. However, his PIMS are low, so he wouldn’t really protect our ever-growing squad of small finesse players. Also, his career Plus/Minus is about -25 playing for Nashville/Columbus coaches who were much better at devising defensive systems than Professor Colliton. Compare Jones’ numbers against Duncan Keith (a career +144). We are not getting a hockey saviour here. Bowman, please don’t give up the farm for Jones. Get him if he comes cheap because a change of scenery might benefit him.
Oh yes definitely lets go out and get more small high scoring forwards that will get pushed around and made irrelevant by any team that decides to play physical. Maybe another soft Center that can’t win a faceoff and refuses to backcheck. This organization need a culture change from Team President down to assistant coaches and scouts. Maybe require that the current regime sit in a room together and watch each and very playoff game from start to finish. I am still waiting to see that team in the playoffs that plays Colliton,s fire drill man on small man euro defensive scheme.
Lets hope they get it right. Happy with Dach pick, seeing lots of star potential there, only training camp so far was an abbreviated one last summer and responded in a playoff by coming into his own where you it’s hardest for a young player to stand out, exactly what you want to see. Coming back on the early time frame of his recovery to try and help his team make the playoffs without a training camp and struggling a bit should be expected of anybody, especially an 19 or 20 year old. Being named captaun if his world junior team only leads you to think of great things to come from him. Boqvist showed progress last season and needs to step that up even further this year which hopefully he does. Reichel great progression last year and hopefully we see hiw good he is next year. So lets hope they get very good player for the future.
MORRISON
June 2, 2021 at 10:13 pm
Roamn, tahts the thing I donot care who we get we just need two top pair Defesnemn within 3 yrs from now.
Get the money and we go to Florida.
I, for one, think that Stan will draft someone with NHL pedigree. I think the MacTavish kid or Sillinger kid will be his pick. Where we stand in terms of our development, we cannot afford to take the best defensemen, the best forward, or the best goal keeper, we need to draft potentially the best NHL hockey player. I am leaning towards the Aatu Raty! He was the #1 consensus before the season started, and with all the crazy shutdowns and games missed, this was a turbulent season. I say, go for the kid that has performed. But, I trust the Hawks scouts!
For some reason this team does tend to shy away from the CHL. Now this year the CHL was a mess especially the ‘O’. So I can’t use the it’s the best developmental/preparatory league for young players lately, but starting in the fall back to normal.
-# 1 d-man
-true # 1 goalie (the jury is still out)
-true power forward (hands, good skating ability, not fun to play against)
-nasty 3 or 4 d-man
Lots of room for improvement.
Let me see … the draft is July 23/24 so that’s about 50 days from now which means there will be 50 more days of the same old whining and opining before the script is slightly adjusted based on the draft selection fails. Makes me wonder why some Hawks fans still bother. I guess it’s an outlet and better than kicking their dog.
Course, with all my complaining about the complainers, it would be fair to ask the same of me. I guess it is an outlet but I don’t have a dog – I have a horse and he’d kick me back. Ouch. :=)
Tommy, I love your draft pick suggestions. Let’s hope that Bownan does not override the scouts and we get those edgy physical players.
Ian, I hope you’re optimism is realized on Dach. So far I have seen a very slow twitch lethargic player. I agree with you that Boqvist was getting better but his physical history is worrisome. Unfortunately I am not at the optimistic point on these players. This will be a huge camp and beginning of the year for both
Dach will be a bust before he is a star in the NHL Boqvist will be eating through a straw if he doesn’t learn to pick his head up
Jones will be to expensive, makes no sense to bring him on now
Depending on who falls in the Draft take MacTavish or the goalie we must get bigger and more physical,big isn’t always the answer look at Dach. got to have at least a little physical presence on the ice
Letting StanBo continue to run the show, adding smallish players that refuse to live anywhere near the blue pain, is a crime. Rebuilds need a GM with the stones to take risks and trade experience better than Stan, who continues to pick around the edges of talent rather than find those that will actually be the cornerstones of any building effort. Ditto for Boy Coach. This teams needs fresh, gutsy, management and there’s plenty in the DISorgan-I-zation: GM-SHOULD have been put out to pasture when McDontknow was shown the barn door. Now for the REAL question: is Toews part of the team going forward, or not? My take- only mine-is that Toews took a year off to recuperate per the official press release. Who knows the real reason? How about his quote…”nobody told ME we were rebuilding…”? Seems to me he sat out the shortened schedule for more reasons than his physical health… If he’s ready to move on to a contender, where does that leave all the (smallish) rookies that need a true leader on the ice. Hope Captain Serious stays, but bet the over/under on that is sizeable.
TW – it’s fair to criticize JCs coaching of the man to man defensive system or the player execution of the system or the roster composition that struggles to play the system but the system itself is not some euro scheme JC cooked up in Switzerland – as far as I can tell it’s the same system that TB and CAR are using – only they’re doing it better
Couldn’t possibly disagree more w/ Bob re: Dach. He’s going to be an absolute star.
tab
thanks for all you do for us for which i am particularly grateful.
but…. i have seen nothing from dach’s performance that would lead me to the leap of faith of dach ever becoming an absolute star. there is nothing he does great. not a great skater, not a blazing skater, not a tough player, not a great hustler, hardly a sniper (7.9% shooting percentage so far), and poor at the dot (before he hurt his wrist). he will likely fill out and become stronger, but that doesn’t mean he will be tougher. hagel is tough. dach not so much. if he ends up a 45/50 point second line center i will be very pleased, although disappointed that is all the hawks get from the third player selected in the draft.
if bowen byram ultimately becomes a legitimate #1 dman dach will be regarded as a bowman failure at the third pick. and let’s wait about four years before deciding that as byram is almost half a year younger than dach and dmen take much longer to develop.
Dach will be a bust in the NHL before he’s a star
Boqvist will be eating through a straw if he doesn’t learn to pick his head up
Jones will be expense and makes no sense to add him now and not as good as he thinks he is
Depending on who falls in the draft I think the Hawks should take either MacTavish or the goalie we need size and a physical presence on the ice,as big as Dach is he doesn’t supply that
6-7 weeks from the draft and Hawks will probably try to move up 3-4 spot and get there player …
Lately I am looking at the final in the LHJMQ and Victoriaville ( Tigres) are 1 game from winning la coupe du president but Jonathan Lemieux from les Foreurs de Val d Or is having a great year in goal and has a .920 and .913 in regular season and playoff.
It’s a long shoot but with a late pick. The kid is really spectacular and finish the season second best goalie in the league.finish the season with 20 wins and 4 lost .in Playoff he is 11-3 .very athletic player.
Take any of Lambos Ceulemans McTavish Sillinger .
Master plan. Trade our 11(Wallstedt) to Edmonton for their #1 Nurse & Puljajarvi
Or to Toronto for their #1 Reilly & Nylander or Marner at 1/2 the $$
Yea I like those picks. Top NHL available at our top 12 pick.
One consistent on this site is the high demands and low patience for young players. Glad you guys aren’t involved in player development.
Barely a 2nd year player coming off a MAJOR injury-wild!
I agree with Hawk 29 on Bowman thinking he’s the smartest guy in the room and then reaching with his picks. Boqvist, Beaudin, Commesso all peculiar reaches (I think Commesso was drafted something like 40 spots ahead of a higher rated goalie).
I still don’t know what style of team this is supposed to be (not sure Stan does either). At first it was small, now we’re adding some big guys, but what we’re still missing is hard. Where are our hard players? Maybe time to draft some.
John Met, If he took the year off for anything but health reasons he can stay away or move on . You would never have respect in the lockerroom if you bailed on your teammates because you were upset about a rebuild. TAB, I would love to know what you have seen from Dach that assures you he will be a star. Hawks29, I totally agree with your assessment of Dach
Just looked at Tankathon’s mock draft. It has all four guys that I like and Coranoto and Raty still available.
Are we smart enough to pull a what John Lynch and the 49ers did to the Bears. Tell a team that another team is asking for the guy they want. We can drop back at least 4 spots. Pick up good assets and still get our guy. If a team wants Raty or Coranoto and we are sure that someone just behind us wants a goalie we can drop back 6 and get better assets.
On Dach I believe he will be a good one. He is only 20 years old. Let him fill out. Let him get a mean streak. Not taking my statement back that I compared him to Lindros just yet. Needs the weight and mean streak. It’s coming.
Tab what has Dach done so far that you see him being a absolute star in the NHL. he’s slow,not physical, doesn’t put up big numbers he’s got 33 points in 82 games playing at least part time with one of the best players in the world and I don’t want to hear about his leadership qualities a lot of 4th liners have leadership qualities bowman reached for Dach in the draft because he thought he was the most NHL ready to try to cover his own ass and it shows.not sure how a kid can be so big and not impose his will on other players. but the Hawks and there writers will pump Dach up to make him sound better then he is.if he’s our #1 center of the future expect to draft high for a long time
NOONAN, We are not the only ones critical of young players when they look overwhelmed and aren’t competing at the NHL level. After 2 years in Arizona the organization and the media both were lamenting the fact that they wasted a high draft pick on Strome as he showed no progression at all. They posted a celebratory article when they were able to get rid of him and Perlini in the same trade. I watched most of the players selected above and below Dach and have seen them flash real skill and make great improvements in their 2 years at the NHL level. We will see with him. Its a huge training camp and season for both Dach and Boqvist.
Noonan. Player development starts with heart, on the coaches side and the players side I just don’t see Dach having the heart to be a star in this league. There’s a lot of very skilled kids playing this game that don’t move up the ranks because they have no heart to compete and put the work in. it starts with the parents most spoil there kids to a point they think they don’t need to out work EVERYONE on the ice and in the gym skill alone can get you far,skill and heart can make you a star
Just for comparison here are the picks selected around Dach,s spot for the last few years. I only included down to top 5 picks. 2020-LAFRENIERE,BYFIELD,STUETZLE—–2019- KAKKO,BYRAM,HUGHES,DACH—-2018- DAHLIN,SVECHNIKOV,KOTAKANIEMI,TKACHUK,QUINN HUGHES.——2017- HISCHIER,PATRICK,HEISKANEN,MAKAR,PETTERSON. 2016- MATTHEWS,LAINE,LUC-DUBOIS,PULIJUJARVI. I have a hard time picking out any of these players that have looked like Dach in his 1st couple of years or even 1st year. You guys be the judge.
So now Dach has no heart and is a bust. Failure projection – hilariously sad. I can’t imagine what life is like living under the dark cloud of unreasonable expectations and constant negativity. Hopefully they have some positives in their life to offset the drain of being a Hawks fan.
When I watch Dach I don’t see a slow skater – in fact he’s got good speed especially for his size
His 15 games or so after coming back from his wrist injury were underwhelming for sure but I expect we’ll see a very different player after he’s fully recovered had a summer of training and a full training camp and matured a little more physically and gained some more experience
It may turn out he’s a bust (although I highly doubt) but at 20 years old and based on his play and significant development last year from his first NHL game to his play in the playoff bubble it seems people are way too eager to be the first to call him a bust
It’s as though some people want Dach to be a bust and can’t wait for it to happen so they can point the finger at Stan and say “See I told you so, Stan’s an idiot”
ebony
don’t know if you are a smart guy, but two things for sure about you…… you seem to know your hockey and you are certainly an optimist and a glass half full guy.
but i question, very stringently, if you understand that their is a stark difference between viewing situations in life as a realist and in a negative manner. those of us who are realists comment in both optimistic and negative manners. it is not either pie in the sky or negativity for those who contemplate both sides of the coin. we look at situations and opine either for or agin (spelled as i intended) as we see it at that time. no one is asking you to be less than your cheery, optimistic self, but it would be very refreshing, just once, for you to review posts previous to yours and have your comments reflect hockey relevance rather than for those who value the hockey knowledge in your comments having to suffer once again as you climb your mountain, comfort yourself on your pulpit, and admonish all of us realists with your very tiring negativity lectures.
because we look at the first 70 games or so of the careers of dach, toews, and kane, realize how excited we were about those performances of the hall of famers back then, and how other than impressed we are by dach does not make us negative observers. just realists ebony. he ain’t been all that and he doesn’t exhibit terrific athleticism or great, unharnessed, inexperienced skills. a whole lot of us feel that way. there isn’t a one of us who comment on this site who wouldn’t be thrilled by a breakout 70/80 point well rounded performance by dach next year. but from what we have seen so far we don’t see that coming. maybe you do. doesn’t mean we, or you, are right or wrong. that will only be decided in hindsight. the only thing it appears we can count on for sure is another tiring lecture down the road from you when our less than pie in the sky offerings offend your rainbows, flowers, and unicorns life.
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i would not call dach a bust based on his performance so far just as i would not identify him as a budding star by his performance in the bubble last fall. he certainly has shown some skills, especially for a big man, but being fast for his size does not make him fast. i don’t think anyone would argue that he has burst on the scene and taken the league by storm. i also don’t think anyone would say that he came back from his injury and didn’t miss a step in the limited games he played this year. my hopes for him are based on my belief he was rushed to the nhl light years before he was ready to play on that level both on an experience level and on having a man’s body and being ready to compete physically. rather than being very excited about his prospects based on what i have seen i am cautiously optimistic. i would rather be very excited. but we will see.
and regardless how it plays out for dach, there is ample evidence that baby bowman is, in the large picture, and idiot and a failure as a general manager.
Hawks29 i wonder what Toews and Kanes first 2 years woulda have looked like if had no training camps either year and had to deal with a concussion first year and a broken wrist the next. Then to come back on the early end of recovery period to try help his team make the playoffs to be ridiculously critized for having no heart. I think under similar circumstances their first 2 years would have a lot less exciting, not to mention the 5o year cup dtought that created alot more excitement as well.
Hawks29 – regarding your response to me
That’s all fair comment – I take it you understand my comments weren’t directed to you – I take issue with those who feel so certain that Dach is already a bust and have said so on this site
It seems we agree that Dach shouldn’t yet be labelled anything other than a very young player with potential – whether that potential translates into a 1st line, 2nd line , 3rd line player or a bust is unknown at this point – I lean towards him being a star in the league but I admit I could be wrong – I’m probably more optimistic than you but that’s fine
However to claim with certainty that he’s a bust is to either have a far greater hockey knowledge and an ability to foresee the future than anyone I’ve ever heard of or it’s ego driven grandstanding
Again that’s not you – I respect your opinion whether it aligns with mine or not
Ebony I don’t think anyone said Dach was a bust just yet but some of the ppl here think he is a star in the making and some of don’t players don’t need to be a certain age to have heart. sounds like you read a lot of articles by others and base your opinion on that please spend some time at a rink and just watch a peewee practice and you’ll see who has heart and who doesn’t and by the way the big guys always get a pass You can’t coach a player to be big
2010, I am good with trading up 3/4 spots to get a better player then Lambos Ceulemans McTavish Sillinger. Say one of the top 4 Defensemen in draft that is a top pair quality. Even with that we still need to add a top pair from ufa because we need 2.
And we have the cap space to do it/its not too expensive. Were not building the roster with 23 elcs Seabs Shawzers Dunks caphit are same as a 7m and 9m top pair ufa caphits. Essentially the same there.
Roamn, not sure if we can pull off a rabbit like DAL did with Parsons. Prob the best linebacker in more then a decade from college.
Good to see Makar on that 16 draft and that Dach is 2 yrs after that so lets give 2more yrs and see where hes at compared to Makar right now. And not forget the deepness of the teams right now and where we ll be in 3 yrs.
Same for Boq.
I have believe in Dach Boq I donot in Strome Nylander.
ER, people called Debrincat a novelty act after juniors and an off yr junior yr was soph slumb yr. I was worried a little now look at him. Hes fine that was his soph slum yr. Like to see Debrincat and Dach BoQ when we have a deep roster and were good again. Trickle effect with these guys with proper linemates and rolling 4 lines.
Then when they are developed and have proper depth lines we ll see where were at.
Interesting takes on our past draftees….so far, and again….so far, Boq and Dach have been a disappointment. And stop blaming a concussion, broken writs…etc. this is what dachs 1st 2 years have been…NOT GOOD. Boq….he is small, weak, and cannot defend. This coming year, training camp will shed alot of light on their development….then we can have a more accurate stance on their future. At this point, I would take Strome over Dach today….TODAY….next year ? One can only hope Dach progresses and becomes the #3 pick we thought he would be….until he does….Strome is Heads above Dach at this point. As for players with boatloads of talent with zero heart, that is Nylander….it is night and day between him and his brother, William WANTS to be a god player, Alex….could care less, he just wants a paycheck, as if league min is good enough for him…to regular people like us….who would turn down 900k per year salary ?? Nobody, and I think that’s where he is….he can get that for.the next 5-8 years and retire from the NHL, then go back to Sweden and play there til his career is total over.
This sucks. That sucks. Stan sucks. Colliton Sucks. Hawks’ draft picks suck. Everything sucks. Hey, I’m just being a realist. Right? I guess there is a fair amount of subjectivity in one’s perception of what is realist versus optimism/pessimism. The body of work tips the scale between “pessimistic realism” versus “optimistic realism”.
Call yourself a realist if that makes the negativity more palatable.
I’m assuming that Cook County prison just got wi-fi lmao..that’s the only excuse I can think of for some of the ”comments” that have been being posted here over the last few days..Dach a bust?? At 20? When most players are still in juniors or the NCAA? After fracturing his wrist and having surgery? His draft position doesn’t mean that he’s immune to a freak injury..seems like it’s way too early to pick out his tombstone..took Ryan Johansen a couple of years to get going too..didn’t seem to hurt him at all…I have zero concerns with Dach..I think a Ryan Johansen/Jordan Staal comp is very reasonable to expect as his ceiling..now, does that make him Tavares or McDavid? Nope..but not every 2nd or 3rd pick turns into a franchise altering player (Kane is going to the HOF, JVR is a solid winger but he’s definitely not, and they were drafted 1-2)..some turn into very solid second line centers who can win faceoffs, create some chaos in the crease, play on both special teams, and chip in 50-55 points a year..”star” or not, that’s a very valuable player to a hockey team. And on top of everything else, he was gifted to us by a few lucky ping pong balls..or would you prefer if Stan traded Dach to Florida for Spencer Knight(who the Hawks would have taken if they stayed at 12)??? Who would you rather have on this roster? Because all of these nonsensical comments are also incorrectly comparing Dach to, for example, Draisaitl, as if his career is a failure because he’s a 3rd pick who won’t score 100 points a season..but the real comparison is Dach vs Knight because that’s who would actually be on this team if we hadn’t jumped up in the draft..and by that comparison, the Hawks are doing just fine..
ER – give it a rest.
Not everyone can be as enlightened and virtuous as you. You need not incessantly lecture everyone about how ignorant and poisonous their views are.
Enjoy the summer.
Hawks 29: Perfect
Like many others on this site , I am not a Bowman fan .IMO his arrogance ( thinks he is smarter than other GMs) and likes to think outside the box is why I feel he is he wrong person for this rebuild. We all have different opinions on what this teams needs. I like Dach but would have preferred Bowen Byram. I am not a Boquist fan. I feel he will be a dud and would have preferred Noah Dobson of the Islanders. Having Byram and Dobson would have been a good start to a defence rebuild. This is not being negative but the way I see the game and what this team needs
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i take nothing personally. what i do take exception to is a one criticizing other’s opinions by reason of state of mind. we don’t have to agree, but we can disagree respectfully without labeling other’s opinions. it is akin to name calling. i never have an axe to grind with you. we don’t always have the same opinion, but you fairly state yours and i mine without judging others or each other. as, i believe, it should be.
and ebony…….
flat out pal. labeling others with a hockey perspective other than yours is your go to. take some time away from your angry responses to those who don’t agree with you and read up on anger issues. you might be surprised to find several chapters talk about traits you exhibit.
it’s just hockey and the blackhawks man. a place most of us who comment on this site go to get away from the angry people like you in our worlds who complicate our lives. just fun ebony. chill out.
WIJG – ok. rest time is over. The rest really helped – I feel positively invigorated. Being virtuous can be tiring, especially places like here. Thanks for the advice. :=)
ian
what you didn’t mention is that dach played for a desperate general manager grasping at straws in terms of trying to make the playoffs who brought him, and boqvist, to the nhl when they weren’t ready to compete. dach in comparison to 19 & 88 wasn’t ready to play in the nhl at nineteen and they were. and their star potential oozed out of their pores. you don’t get that feeling about dach.
dach certainly hasn’t had things go his way and hopefully that will sort itself out. i am not among those classifying him as a bust. i just don’t see the raw abilities one sees from a future star and i hope they are there come september. also i do not put nearly as much stock in hockey preseason participation as others do. i think i recall correctly that panarin missed most of the preseason his rookie year. to be fair he was a much older and more experienced player at the time. but hockey does not have an extended preseason as other sports have. i understand it would have been much better for him to have had both of those preseasons, but he needs to find his way regardless. i am hoping for the best.
H29 – unless I missed something (entirely possible) I don’t remember Panarin missing training camp his rookie year
Someone please correct me if I’m mistaken
re: Bob-
I just don’t see Dach having the heart to be a star in this league.
You have to be kidding? And you know this because you watch on TV, and can tell? As I said everyone can have their own thoughts-opinions but the craziness of some comments is baffling. Ask his junior coach if he has heart.
He may be an average player, many third picks are but you can’t predict that already.
It looks like ER’s summer lecture series will continue unabated.
If he wants your opinion, he will give it to you.
Lucas….Mctavish….Sillinger….Lambos…….please!!
WIJG – the lecture series will start soon. Still arranging logistics, hope to have a schedule out soon. The first lecture will be on proper use of hyperbole and how to avoid using inflammatory words like ignorant and poisonous. I’m sure you’ll want to attend. :=)
And now for some real hockey talk – I got to see about half of the Finland/Germany game today and will try to catch the USA/Germany game tomorrow morning. I wanted to see Reichel play and from the few times I saw him in action I wasn’t disappointed. The game itself was a taffy pull so there wasn’t much open ice for players to do much more than bump into each other. But Reichel looked quick and he made some nice plays that didn’t lead to any scoring in the 2-1 game. Hopefully tomorrow there will be more wide open play which there should be because Finland is known for playing low scoring boring games which is exactly what they did today.
I’m optimistic about Reichel. Is that OK?
Noonan Let me get this straight you can tell how good someone’s going to be by watching the tv but others can’t have a opinion that doesn’t match your so we’re wrong hmmm. so far Dach has not performed to his draft status he should’ve played in the AHL for a couple yrs like most players do and develop into a NHL player. not his fault the Hawks took him to high in the draft not his fault they rushed in into the NHL at this point in his career he’s not the star you and ebony think he is according to you guys the Hawks have the best talent in the league the problem is bowman is using the (rebuild) as a excuse to suck and some of you are falling for it and by the way I said Dach will be a bust before he’s a star hope I’m wrong we’ll see and stop drinking the kool-aid don’t let the Hawk PR Machine do the thinking for you
EBONY, I share your Reichel optimism as he seems to make great decisions at high speed and does not shy away from contact which all is very anti Hawks these days so it is very refreshing. Hopefully he carries this play right into training camp and he can leap frog some of the slow developers.
LARMER Fan, Very solid Draft list you have compiled there. Like it alot.
Although while I think StanBo needs to be shown the door, I have to give Dach a pass for last year, it was clear he came back too soon and I think we have to give him an off season to see how he does for next year. And I was hoping for Byram to be drafted.
There was a very interesting article on the Fanside Site calling out the Hawks Strength and Conditioning Coach,GOODMAN I think,for the Hawks being the physically lightest team in the NHL giving away close to 20 LBs per player while being manhandled by teams in their COVID Division all year. The 1st step is admitting that you have a problem. Hopefully we see another article soon with the Hawks addressing their lack of physicality and adjusting their training accordingly.
Bob-I don’t know where to begin with the last response so I’m not going to try.
As I said before, enjoy the summer Hawk fans and get away from the computer for a bit-it’s good for the soul.
Slayer, interesting you bring up Knight and someone else same for goalie last draft when we got a very good player at 19th/which doesnt always happen getting that good of a player that far from top 12 picks. Why I saying is thats two top 15? draft goalies there and maybe why we didnt draft/get them two because we have a gem in Lankenin.
Man our we lucky to get Lankenin which allowed us to not watse a top 20 pick quality player instead for goalie. Thats one less top 6 FW 4 D we have to get just because Lank is good.
This is Huge!
ER, no thats not hes going to be a bust just because he was a 1st round pick by Bowman.
If he was drafted by Tallon he would be on a top 5 team that got whipped by TB in FLR. Why is it that as soon as Tallon leaves FLR roster is finetuned and FLR is a top 5 team or maybe just top 10 but good again/Q makes a huge difference/team system.
Shoutout to the weak glove side goalie of league/I mean Crow to chill and enjoy the maintenance on the vech in summer time.
I ll be getting the jeep wrangler to show quality again this summer. Well on the way towards that might take two summers to get to that.
Stan has many options. I think a total of three players are signed past two seasons from now. Three….one of which is Seabrook. So two players are officially on the roster three years from now. The other two are Ridley Stillma and isaak phillips….that’s it. No one else. Of course there are RFA.
I think stan sits in a good spot sans the early retirement of seabrook and yes shaw who was cheap shotted a few times this year and still should be a solid contributor. Arguably his best years were in Montreal so long as you only look at regular season. Anyway stan has a ton of options.
No question stan needs to take advantage of teams against the cap, losing players to Seattle, and even players other teams have given up on.
Yes the team needs at least a bit more size, not always found via draft. Pertaining to free agency i would again try to get a one year player with intent to trade. Been sayong that for …well forever always nice to have an expandable assett…especially on a team full pf so many undetermined and in some cases fragile players. Finally stan did this last year….should have been for years but what do i know?
Not sure max number of contracts a team is allowed to eat salary cap pf but Stan needs to get in the middle.
If I were stan I would be thrilled with my options. Many other teams are far more cornered than the Blackhawks . Every team that gets eliminated you see the silly posts onlime from “journalists ” and fans alike to “blow up”(in a world of pc culture im the only one for years saying to stop using this phrase and ground zero….ground zero shouldnt have even beem used for 9/11…whichi just looked did they change the definition of groundzero? I know they changed the definition of other words recently…and gotta love press editing articles online from a year plus ago…gotta love the reimagining of things to not look bad in retrospect or help you forget…shhh nevermind back to the circus of hockey while i enjoymy bread. Oh, Dont get me started on “my batteryis dying” as far as misuse of words) the respective team.
Sign Ovechkin and trade him back to Washington eating 25%? Same could be said for numerous free agents. Lots of “bad ” contracts out there to eat with a sweetener…be it draft pick or prospect. heck some of the players themselves are not horrible even though their salary is.
Problem is as i look around at bad contracts seems quite a few have no trade clauses. You’d think these teams owners would have learned by not to give those put like candy. Shaw is a nice IR optio. To trade as well. Stan is in a good spot and can make some assett additions while giving up very little…except maybe money but that’s up to the owners!
Scoutint Europe had been decent for the Blackhawks have to wonder if they are eyeing another gem. I would stay on the cheap eith the team and gamble by giving golden…and i mean multimillion dollar opportunities to guys who want to work for it! Speaking of which…nylander is an rfa. I woulsnt give him a dime over the minimum and not to be a jerk because hes injured…because of what i see as far as work ethic on the ice. Anyway perhaps stan will have contract trouble pertaining to resigning some rfa in a couple years…but right now i doubt it. And if such is so easy predicted then move one now for a prospect who may as of next year be a rookie…why not?
As i toured around the city the other day(hate going there but had to) i can only imagine how helpful Seabrook was to helping new people get around.
Wow so Dach and Boqvist are both busts now? Some great takes in here lately.
Silly season.
3 Hawks Hagel Beaudin and Pirri on gold winning Canadian team at the worlds- congrats
Any success on a big stage is good for players like Hagel and Beaudin especially
Good on Pirri as well but he has almost certainly played his last game for the Hawks and quite likely as an NHLer too
Congratulations to the Winnipeg Jets for winning the award for showing the least amount of class for an NHL team in this year’s playoffs.
Every year is a tough year to have less class than Boston. This year it’s a runaway victory for the Jets.
6, count ’em, 6 playoff goals for Saad so far this playoff season, to go along with his two Cups from years past.
Meanwhile, Zadorov is learning how to throw a right cross at the Nikki Minaj boxing school.
Yes sir, helluva trade from Bowman and his mail order Mensa program.
….. and the gullible drink again from the Bowman Rebuild Kool Aid pitcher, with Euro league junior coach acting as bartender.
But hey…..
In some worlds, (Not Galt’s, cuz he knows better) the ideological view is always that of a lousy REM song. (You know the one.)
Spending my time laughing at those who buy into this crap……as it comes straight out of the NYR playbook.
How did that work out?
When the puck drops to open the new season, Mensa Bowman and Euro Jr coach will be here, and I will not.
I bet the gullible are praying for that.
Right Galt?
So PP won’t be here next year. Wonder what name he’ll use next?
I thought he left weeks ago… Ah well. Once a walldog -Always a walldog.
walldog huh?
Never said I was gone right away, idiot.
Always said and still stick to the my point:
If Colliton/Bowman are there when the puck drops on the new season , I will not be. No point.
Kool aid is not my drink of choice.
Do your damn homework before opening your trap.
PP will not be here next year – you’ll have a new alias and it won’t be the first time. You can’t stay away. Play your game and get your jollies. All is well.
My guess on the Blackhawks 1st pick is a forward 60% chance, 30% a defenseman and 10% chance a goalie. Really with Soderblom signing and Morris back in Rfd., Commesso being number one guy at Bu this year and if he has a big year as hoped he will be an elc possibility next year. To a lesser extent Baissie in his 2nd year in Ncaa, Nalimov who wasn’t exactly terrible in his ato with Rfd. but didn’t do much to impress may not be back. Unless there is a goalie who they feel is too good to pass up, don’t see a goalie unless they take a late round flyer on one.
On blueline with Philips and Galvas just signed for next year, plus top 4 type hopefuls Kaiser and Vlassic who also has lots of size and another elc candidate next year. Then depth players with some size/edge, Krutil and Crevier some more could be added to pipeline there. Up front with Reichel expected to sign and looking ready although adapting his game to smaller ice and cultural change off ice for an 19 year old will be an adjustment for sure for him. Borgstrom signing will given opportunity to impact at center or power forward, both needed on Nhl roster. We saw and talked about a number of Rfd. players who may impact next year. Plus Slaggart, Saarela and Yetman offer some possible bottom 6 support with Kayumov some possible top 6 after Reichel of the unsigned prospects. Definitely need more in the pipeline there.
First 3 maybe see a future top line center with 1st or middle 6 C with one of 2nd round picks, a top pairing D with 1st pick or top 4 with 2nd round pick and same with winger hopefully power forward type with other pick. With 2 4ths, usually spot in last couple of drafts where a big skilled guy who slipped down draft with high potential ceiling, Krutil and Teply have been taken, plus maybe a smaller skilled forward.
Watching the Avs/ Vgk series is good hockey, be tough to beat either of them. Two teams built very different, Avs have put together a nice core from high draft picks, complimented by some solid veteran acquisitions. Vgk on other hand doing it exclusively on players acquired ftom Nhl rosters and locking them up.
“Your mind is your only judge of truth-and if others dissent from your verdict, reality is the court of final appeal.”
John Galt
From Atlas Shrugged, 1957
Roloson acquired from Avs for Soderberg is a speedy 2way forward with a bit of offensive potential is entering his 2nd year at ND is also someone to keep an eye on next year. Could be an outta nowhere guy, now in the system prospects mix.
WIJG sometimes judgement gets clouded with agendas and obsession and loses all reality.
Ian – Yes. Sometimes. Some People.
In the Avs-Vegas series Deboers has found the MacKinnon cryptonite in Stephenson,Stone,and Pacioretti as they have skated his line into the ground the last 3 games. Vegas also is dominating them physically. The rest of the Avs team also curled up into a ball the last 2 games in Vegas as they were outshot 34-17 last night and outhit big time. The Canadian-Jet series may bring on the dismantling of that Jet team. After they lost Scheiffle to suspension they just gave up.
lol
COL with last change in 2 of next 3 games if it goes the distance – gives Bednar the chance to get McKinnon away from Stephenson line
Plus home ice now means something with fans in the buildings – Avs aren’t dead yet but they do smell funny
Watching teams defend MacKinnon definitely reinforces the position that you need superior skating Centermen who can win faceoffs and control the puck. I know.DUH! Also from last night’s game,TUC and the REAVES line are monsters and that Marchiseault guy can light it up. Pietrangelo is good too. Another DUH moment I know.
In a rebuttal to the…Dach a bust at 20 yrs old ?? How about those 2 power forwards drafted in the 1st rnd that were absolute busts….Kyle Beach and Mark McNeill….both highly touted and given zero chance to play in the NHL…only difference between them and Dach….Bowman and the Hawks were absolutely desperate to put Dach in before he was ready….2021 will be a telling year…as for Boq, there is a team out there that believes he is a decent defender…. personally, he can only defend in the OHL….that’s about it.
Looking for a @Craig Nigrelli update
Thanks.
By the way, if all the remaining top rated players in the upcoming draft to select at #11 are only 5’10” to 6’ and weigh about 170 pounds soaking wet, are these smurfs or not? Should Stan avoid these smurfy little BPAs, just to draft someone over 6’ and 200 pounds regardless of the scouting? Just checking, since I want Stan to truly understand the expectations from the “Realists” crowd.
Why the snide remarks? Let everyone have an opinion and pass over it if you don’t like them! I enjoy all of the comments on this site! All of us love our Blackhawks – that’s clearly evident! I especially like the Atlas Shrugged reference! Ayn Rand is a forgotten and fabulous writer! She is the Scottie Bowman of Authors!! Now, Dach showed grit coming back from the wrist. That is a tough injury to come back from. But, he will be ten times stronger for doing so, and will have a lot to prove. I expect him to be a monster in year 3! As much as I want size on our team, I think Zadarov is a useless Redwood. I want him to be good, but he kept regressing as the season went along. I want us to trade for Jesse Pulijarvi! He needs a change of scenery! Trade Strome for him! I do not want Seth Jones – too expensive in terms of money and talent going back. Let’s draft and develop our own Seth Jones!
Tommy, I like a lot of your post and I too am an Ayn Rand fan – don’t agree with everything she believed but most of it and loved her for her courage, forthrightness and thoroughly thought out and consistent philosophy.
However, I must strenuously disagree with your suggestion to acquire Puljujarvi. If there is a poster child for “lots of tools but no toolbox” – he would be a strong candidate.
Eklund, McTavish, and Coronato…
guessing the first 2 will be gone by Hawks turn to pick
Coronato– like Marchand. I am in on that.
Dear Eb – The reasons that I like Puljujaarvi as a player are many. First, he has an elite skill set. Second, he is an exceptional skater for a kid his size, and lastly he is not a focal point for the Oilers with McDavid and Draisaitl getting all of the PP minutes. What I like most about Puljujaarvi is that he scores mostly on 5v5 opportunities. To me, he would be our next Brandon Saad. He just needs a change of scenery, and with all of the centers that we have coming for next year, we can trade Strome, and save some money to use on a defensemen.
At least, we like the same author. Have a great day!
TI
”our perceptions will never allow us true understanding”
The Hawks down fall is all on Rocky Wertz and his refusal to fire Stan Bowman who has destroyed the Hawks with his horrible trades and draft picks! Stan likes to draft undersize players and it shows with the way the Hawks are pushed around by bigger teams!