Avalanche Crush Hawks, Keith Injured
After a few strong performances recently, the Blackhawks weekend home-and-home with the Avs would serve as a good measuring stick.
If Friday’s matinee was any indication, Chicago has plenty of work for do.
Colorado was up two before four minutes were off the clock and the game was effectively over.
Zack Smith’s first goal as a member of the Hawks cut the lead in half but a showtime goal from Cale Makar gave the Avs a 3-1 lead through 20 minutes.
Colorado scored twice within a two-minute window in the middle of the second period to blow the game wide open.
Patrick Kane extended his personal point streak with his 13th of the year with five seconds left in the second period. Contacting a mesquite tx injury lawyer in such cases of injury might be necessary.
The Hawks actually had a 29-14 shot advantage after two periods.
Neither team scored in the third period and the game ended with the Avs taking a 5-2 victory.
The larger concern for Chicago is the health of Duncan Keith. He didn’t take a shift in the back half of the second period and did not return for the third. He has a groin injury and will not travel with the team to Colorado. He received first aid in hamilton with c2c very quickly and that abated his symptoms. Ian McCoshen was recalled; Matthew Highmore was sent to Rockford to open a roster spot.
If they bounce back, tomorrow no big deal, just a bad game, Crawford off, struggled with puck management early again, caught up to them. Now gut check time and see if they can right it tomorrow.
Makar scores a ton of “showtime” goals. He is the archetypal modern attacking defenseman. In an era where getting pucks to the net is very difficult, he does it with supreme confidence and skill. He needs a space about the size of an iPhone on its side to get it through.
Maybe I am gushing, but to me he is like a 2030 player. Our guys, by comparison, look like they’re playing in 2012. I’ve said it on many occasions but if Byram lives up to his potential the two of them playing 25 minutes a night together will be a nightmare for the rest of the league (and the division in particular) for the next generation. That’s one reason I wanted Byram.
It’s ok to have a bad game once in awhile… when you have banked points to spare. Like the Hawks of recent yesteryear used to. That’s not the case presently, far from it. All games are critical.
Why recall a D man when you have the stellar Bowman acquisition from last year Koekoek on the runway? Who’s singlehandedly given away 5/6 points this year? And who do they recall, this year’s version of Koekoek.
This is poor coaching and poor management.
It’s depressing to see the speed, board strength and depth of the Avalanche (minus 5 injured players) against our organization. It’s all about drafting and Bowman and crew haven’t done well for years. Yes we have some recent decent players drafted but a prospect is just a prospect until they make an impact.
Thought we might not do as good in the F game, and do better in the SA and STL game.
When we started 3-6/4-7, I thought thats not good. We get to 10-10 and then where still there (last yr 9-18 and not there and got close in 2nd 40).
3-6-1 1st segment
6-3-1 2nd segment
Just cant have to many under .500 segements and still right there.
What I need to see is start to go on a tear and play mean, once we get rolling again. Even though we went 6-1-1 in the 2nd segement, we didnt have that tear in there. That was because we were just trying to find our way in this system.
Now we have, so lets do that, once we get rolling again.
Nothing wrong with 3-3 during a part where theres top teams in in.
Speed kills, at least it did today. Avs were flying and the Hawks were skating in mud. Who the hell is the guy taking Keith’s spot?
That was a team that was missing one of their top d men and 5 of their top forwards.They played their 3rd string goalie.Their top center makes the Hawks top center look like he is standing still and lost.Think about
those things the next time that you think that the Hawks are ready to make a run at the playoffs.I have never seen a player pump his fist and so excitedly celebrate a goal in a 5-1 game.
COL got top 10 picks for like 10 yrs in a row.
Once we get our young wave established were right there with the top teams again.
Have to have the young core established. It is about the drafting and our young wavers are coming and cant get here fast enough.
I was disappointed that Lehner didn’t get the start – JC has been rotating him and CC every other game so why break that routine when it’s not broken and has been resulting in great goaltending performances from both goalies?
It’s similar to when he dressed 7 D for no good reason
I know CC had a stellar game vs DAL but Lehner has had multiple stellar games (more than Crawford in fact) and he hadn’t had back to back starts
IMO it sends the wrong message to both Lehner and the team – after one shutout JC decides to change his goalie rotation and ride the hot hand – I call BS
Another case of overthinking by the coach – there was no deciscion to made on who should have started – it was Lehner’s turn and he’s done nothing to deserve missing his turn – in fact I believe he leads the NHL in SV % or close to, amirite?
Love the optimism Mo, but this timing thing just might not work out. When it does it amazing and it did 10 years ago. Even then it takes luck to win a Cup, lot’s of breaks to win three. This time it might be wishful thinking at best.
Let’s enjoy the last few (all star) years of the magnificent 88.
For those out there–looking at all the teams in the league, how optimistic are you that the Hawks will be one of the strongest 5 teams in the next five years?
From 1st to 31st? Are they in the top 10? I personally don’t think so. Way too many maybes. Top 15, 20? There is a case for that.
Gustafsson is a train wreck.
Kane made the bad turnover on the first goal. Crawford looked slow to move left to right on the second. Maybe he didn’t know where the puck was.
This was a bad effort. My initial thought was in agreement with Wraparound that Colliton over thought playing Crow tonight. But after re-thinking it, given that Lehner was going to play one of the two games, it should not have mattered which. Given how outstanding Crow was against Dallas, and given that he had rest, there is no heartburn starting him tonight and Lehner tomorrow. However, we must admit that it did not work at all. Crow was not sharp. Whenever Colliton gets cute, it seems to blow up in his face.
If the Hawks are bringing up a defenseman for Keith, I would have thought it would be Gilbert. I guess Gilbert is not impressing Colliton. Apparently Highmore did not impress him either. Kind of hard to understand the thinking, but given the great decisions we have seen from Colliton and Bowman, surely they are making a wise one here (sarc).
Kane’s goal celebration was a little excessive given the circumstances. It was a sweet goal but his point streak doesn’t matter much when they are in the middle of an ass kicking that he helped start off with a horrible TO.
Maybe tomorrow will be better. Maybe it won’t.
Kane made a bad turnover. He sucks defensively and is overrated. Gus was back watching the whole mess unfold while doing nothing. So WTF, they both f#$%^ed up.
Sub par defense is the price of Kane. Pathetic defense if the norm for Gus!
Hey, how do you take a plus d-man and turn in into a minus. Pair him with Gus!
Watched pieces of the game. I saw Kane’s turnover and he wanted to soft pass it up to Keith. Unless your sure or in the offensive zone that’s the time for that. On his celebration, he did cut the lead in half to one plus I believe it was after the Shaw fight. I have no problem with that. I would have a problem if it was 5-0 and celebrated like that to make it 5-1.
Next game is important to see how they bounce back. Lehner will be in net. This game I believe will forecast the season. Play great and win = playoff team. Play and salvage a point = bubble team. Lose and get dominated = wish for top 3 pick in draft again.
Jordy “but if Byram”. Everyone would draft and does draft a “but if” player. I know Byram was sought after can’t recall if Makar was? Makar is the gem of a pick in that pairing “if” Byram makes it. I believe we had “but if ” D pairing that came thru for years and the whole league was in trouble with. Their names were Seabrook and Keith. Now it’s our time to find another pair.
Go Hawks!
JR agree with moving on from Keith and Seabrook be better for defense. Murphy, Maatta, Dehaan and Boqvist could be 4 solid pieces going forward. Sign or acquire a top guy and develop a couple from within, but unlikely to happen.
With forwards too in the next year or so, Dach needs to become the top line center with Kane and maybe Toews as other wing or 3rd center, and fo specialist. Saad with 12 and 17 something that could be a solid support line. Kurashev or Barrett could be another center and guys like Kubalik, Nylander, Shaw can handle wings on another line or maybe a Hagel or Entwistle too. Checking line seems to have options now.
Jordyhawk, you sound jealous to me. I know I am. Wrap, good call on the goalie decision by the coach. I am still in on a total rebuild. That means trading anyone, except, maybe, J. Toews. Have a soft spot for what JT. brought to this organization.
I am even in on trading both goalies at the trade deadline for getting as much draft capital and young prospects as possible. I know, I know, we still have Bowman as GM.
Don’t trade Dach.
I only saw the third period in which they seemed to be trying hard but COL like a few other teams (CAR and TB come to mind) they were overwhelming the Hawks with their speed
This IMO is something the Hawks need to add – Boqvist and Mitchell when they’re ready will help – they could be here next year for Gus and Maatta or maybe Seabs
Players like Highmore and Wedin could help next year as well on lower lines but overall team speed is and will be an issue going forward – fortunately it seems Dach is fine in that department
Iceman / Jordyhawk / Tim -> you lads are bang on. This team is absolutely nothing and going no where until changes occur at the very top and work their way down. The longer Rocky waits to do what needs to be done the more pain will be experienced.
Agree on Colliton not a coach that will win it all and Bowman, won’t pick next coach, will go if he does and have been saying that for months.
Wrap alot to expect Mitchell can step right in next year and not spend part of the year in Ahl. Makar the exception there not the norm but good if he can impact right off.
Byram who many here thought he could play top pair right away, took only half a preseason for Avs to know he wasn’t ready and return him to minors. He may become an elite defenseman but it will take some time. Wedin is a ufa after this season, have wondering how this year goes and if he resigns or gets an offer or not, not likely happy on prospect of Rfd again if doubts that he stays on Nhl roster are there.
Noonan, I know I am always that way, this time right now I know what your saying and agree after seeing first 10 games and this system.
I do think we are a 15-25 team right now and when young wave is established higher then that. To me if BOS can be top 5 team now again, we can. We have just as many young wave players coming that they have and is reason why they are top 5 again. We have a top goalie / two this yr, like they have. So if we make the right moves and have a good system like they do.
Thats what I see. I know what your saying and feel that way now with this system and none of the young wave yet.
If were not top 10 when the young wave starts then thats not good.
I guess I see us now as a 15 or so team, when other people see 25.
So thats why I see top 5-15 team when we get our 5 good young players like BOS did, when others then see 15 team.
Its perception to everybodys own eyes.
I do not feel it this yr for Blackhawks. There isint that vibe yet.
With Kentucky basketball this and next yr, and Penn State football next two yrs, I do
Wrap, the speed thing is the thing. We were not faster or as fast as a few other teams starting 2016 /17 ? after being one of the 3-5 fastest teams for 10 yrs.
We got faster in 2019 then those few yrs before. Now we are still not as fast as the fastest teams in league, those types of teams you mentioned.
We get young wavers in here and old geeseers out of here. We Should be as fast or faster then every team in league except those few teams, right?
We have enough fast player coming.
Rmemeber the only reason why those teams are the fastest or one of the fastest teams is because they drafted top 15 for 5-10 startight. Not because they are good.
We Should have that coming, then we can play on even playing field.
I just look at BOS, they have the same kind of team we do before they got 5 good young players. We have that coming, player wise.
We need good system like they do, not sure if they have good higher up though. What ever we need we need to do it this draft summer, so were ready to roll when the young wavers are NHL ready. Which isint too far away from now.
This summer.
When it comes to this reload rebuild thing were doing.
Seeing the first 10 games and this system. I would rather get another top 3/5 draft player.
We do not have to get rid of everybody except Tazer to win.
We need to make the right moves and keep the young players, like BOS did.
I do not think we can get a top 3 /5 pick this yr though, we are to good and make playoffs or not were picking 10-16. Which Fukking sucks monkey coffee.
So dive. Getting a draft top 3 / 5 player (which would be three top elite players) is better then getting experience this yrs playoffs. We can do that in the 21 season when we have a fast enough team and a good enough system to be able to play on an even playing field.
Good day, eh.
Kane (as great of HOF he is) is a defensive liability… Then you have gus,seabrook,keith… Get rid of the 3 clowns here on D… then we roll…. transition game is slow as f***… Wingers NEVER cover point men on D (for breakout passes)..
ALWAYS ROAMING all over with eyes glued on puck…. 5 chickens with no heads playng D… Other teams cover our pointmen & are “off to the races” once saad coughs up the puck.
Go Hawks ! ?
Getting real tired of hearing our captain in post game comments stating ” we need to come out faster, not sure what it is”……what a bullshit statement that is. How about setting examples, talking to guys, I don’t know…..lead the team.
Yesterday was a 3 hour waste….funny how the AvS had 6 guys out and did not miss a beat, we can not even hit the net if a soccer net was out there.
How does two of the best coaches not work in this league anymore. Q and Babcock.
What is the ideal coach system and what are we missing player wise, that we do not already have coming 1st round pick wise.
We cant dive and throw games on purpose liek EDM COL did for 10 yrs. That right there is why there should be a limit to top 5 picks per 10 yrs/decade.
This expansion team stealing one good player from every team might be what we need to get back. Other top teams lose a good player and we can make moves needed without losing any good player.
The timing on that seems like we can.
Watch as Hawks are in their Own zone defending— watch wingers ( JOB IS COVERING POINTMEN) .. drift down past faceoff circles.. clueless.. then when a Hawk dman gets the puck… can’t headman the puck up ice.. EVER WONDER why other teams dmen ALWAYS CHEAT IN towards hawks net?… they have No worries as our wingers are playing goalie or watching the puck.
Saad is a truck driver with hands of stone.
Huge game tonight…No Excuses…
Time to move gus… ASAP
Go Hawks!!!!
Mo the thing the Bruins have alot of teams would love is their top offensive line is their top defensive line too. Everything else forward wise is secondary support in both zones.
How old our there top line players.’
Would 20 29 77 be a two way line with similar or even better age.
20 19 77
Hawk forwards need to WATCH 30 sec. highlight reel footage of how Hossa skated back and played D… played 2way hockey…hotdogs…
Hoss would be good to have around, like Soupy is teaching BoQ Soupy like stuff, to teaching Dach Hoss like stuff.
Thats what part of Toews value has to be at this point, having Dach playing with him and learning how to become a complete player/center.
Whos out there ufa wise that is like Hoss, we can get if we do not keep 7 and 20. In order to get prime yr players for a top pair Defensemen and a player liek 81.
We know there are some top pair Defensemen next two summers, that we Need to get one of them, even if there caphits look bad when they are 35. Its the only way to get them. We do not have 10 or more yrs to wait for draft. We already drafted a top 3 player at center.
So we must like Horsemen and are planning to get a top pair Defensemen ufa next two summers, or deadline like TAM did from RAG.
Thats exactly what Saader got from Tazer and Hoss, being on the line.
Saader should be a 40 goal two way machine like Hoss was early yrs. WTF.
Saader at $6.4 million is a turd…no moves… lazy… coughs up the puck.. has “potential”? ….that ship sailed… he is Daze #2…. like he don’t care or brain fires slow…lol..
Could “Own this league with effort”!
Slow turnover Dmen and lazy forwards who don’t backcheck… bad combo…
Hawk players always “ roaming around the ice all over — so when a player has the puck.. doesn’t “know” where teammates are at. —> called Ice Capades.
Every foward line should have one of its 3 forwards designated to stand in front of opponents goal by coach – not the players (then we can see who is who)…
Stop shooting on net from along the boards- outside the Box…
Work puck to shoot from -“Down the middle” like All teams do on us.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!
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Tazer and Dach are isint a better way to start loading up down the middle.
Need to fill in accordingly from there, like your saying.
Saader is 6.0 caphit for 6 yrs. I think it was 4? yrs ago already.
Mo not sure on ufa, Petriangelo and blues both say they are working out an extension, so ufa blueline top guys rett6 slim picking and risky to commit to.
Interested to see how they do with Michal Teply development. Drafted next after Dach, he has 10g 13a in 25 games with Winnipeg Chl in his first season over here. Some of the things scouts say.”Stellar stick handler and a top notch passer who needs little room to maneuver and make something happen.”
” He is big and makes good use of his size when battling for the puck.”
” Whether shooting or passing does both accurately.”
Seems to have the offensive tools now see if they can make a strong skating power forward out of him.
People always get high or low on draft players when we are doing good and when we are sucking. The bottom line is some are going to be good players and some wont make it.
Point it some ARE going to be good players so we can bank on that.
I just think its worth getting a Soupy or Hoss ufa wise, even if caphit looks like Seabs does when the player is 35-40 age wise. Its the only way to be sure were getting a top pair Defensemen.
We need that since we got a 1st line center for next 15 yrs. Act accordingly and get a top pair Defensemen any way we can. Seabs 7 m caphit will be that much of the prime of prime yrs player 7 8 9 or 10 caphit. Its worth it. Soupy and Hoss were. Same thing here.
Then like you said that guy and other could be very good. Who ever is good, some ARE going to be good.
I wish this disaster could be addressed by a few moves but it goes so much deeper than that.This organization sold its soul for their Cups and from a business perspective that is fine.It bought you 10 years of sellouts and merchandising success.If what I anticipate occurs tonight and monday night against the Blues ,I think it is time for all of us to offer up our tear down of this house of cards.Which I know will be upsetting to the Stanley Cup era of fans.
Playing a skilled fast team + mediocre goaltending + really bad Gus + chronic overpassing = Blowout. Reality is the Hawks have to play near perfect to compete against quality teams – there is no room for error. The overpassing is just getting to ridiculous levels. The Avalanche and Blues have been impressive despite major injuries. We are nowhere near that level right now. It’s pretty sad when the 4th line is your most effective.
MS that’s what i meant by having a pp that can score, to go with elite goaltending, could be a needed equalizer for them as the season goes on.
I know we got problems, its more then sch or players. System and certain higher up positions need new style and style that works.
We prob have what 7 or so good young players coming and 7 old geesers out. That is 7 of the 18 dressed players. That should have us fast speed team wise.
I am for what ever gets us back where we belong.
I do not think we need to trade everyone. We can keep guys like 5 44 22 40 or 50 and still do the rebuild. To me the rebuild needs to be system and organization.
The Hawks are closer than most people think. For me, you trade Smith and Matta next year for whatever you can get. Dont resign Drake or Slater. REsign Strome, Kubs, Corey and Lehner. Sign or trade for a Top 6 forward for the Toews Saad line and drop Nylander down to 3 or 4th line. A lot of you complain about Seabrook but to me it is Duncan Keith who looks slow and sluggish since the last year plus.
The DEF next year can be the following
DeHaan/Boqvist
Murphy/Mitchell
Keith/Seabrook
Gilbert
The DEF, plus resigning the two goalies and adding a top 6 for me is what makes CHI a favorite next year.
Would love to see Taylor Hall with the hawks if they can swing it.
Morrison you are walking down the right path.Before anymore major player movements are made,Rocky Wirtz is going to have to make some hard choices.Do you want to be a Hockey Organization or do you want to pander to the masses that just care about how many goals 88 scores and how the Anthem sounds.
Need to sit seabrook again and again so he ASKS to be traded… keith needs to sit to at times… boq and gilbert need to play…gus needs to be traded ASAP..
watch keith and seabrook ALWAYS CHEAT toward center ice on blueline when we in off zone… due to they can’t get back.. can’t skate…And useless in that position to pass to from corners… playing 3 or 4 on 5… pffffffff then skate to boards trying to get to puck to keep it in… JOKE! Not happening.
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The thing about the Bruins is their top line is great both offensively and defensively (as Ian stated) and they have terrific depth players like Krecji, Coyle and Debrusk. Really solid players with size. Also their 4th line is outstanding. We could use a guy like Nordstrom who we gave away. He is not a difference maker but he is fast and physical.
They also don’t have any huge salaries – they have done a great job putting that team together and I think some players have taken less than market to stay. That hasn’t been the case for the Hawks – all deals have been at or above market price. Even the bad deal for Backes hasn’t hurt the Bruins anything like our Seabrook deal.
Seabrook was probably signed at Q’s request!
“I NEED HIM”!
pffffffffff
Tim… spot on..
Massive Koolaid drinkers
Nordy doesnt really score that much, right? So guys like Highmore Hagel others should be a clone.
We need that 20 19 81 line, so wether thats 20 19 77 or ? 19 77 its there.
For the 10 yr dynasty and making money movie shows. Yea we are at the point where we need to do those things, get rid of the popcorn tshirt pre madonna shht and get back to the basics. Team first, which starts with a good system that works and a GM and crew and higher ups that work.
We do not have to get rid of everybody to win again. Just make the right moves and its not only players. I say keep basically everybody because who ever is doing the GM higher up coaches other, should decide what players to keep.
We can pick the better players to pick but we do not know the system and style were going to go with, for Dach first 5 prime yrs (which are 19 88 prime yrs left). Stil think those guys can contribute when they are 35-40 just be at team friendly caphits.
We can do this.
I meet Rocky and he gave me the feeling that he wants to win and be competitive every yr, with reloading yrs. We ve had enough reloading time. So I think he will make the tuff right moves we need to win a 4th Cup. I am pretty sure thats what he wants, a 4th Stanley Cup.
HAWK players all want to score goals for contract money… but the truth is ,,, you score more goals on rebounds,tip ins, & screens… Goalie sees it.. they Stop it…
They appear alot of time as 5 individuals out there and no “team work”.. all bout “Me”.
Basically called…. Accountability… as Seabrook stated after his sat out a game… “why sit me out– I feel I am skating good and playing well”.
OH REALLY?
BIG game tonight boyz!
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Why when Keith is on the ice and other team scores… why is goal scored ALMOST ALWAYS from goalies left side.. Keiths side? Just a coincidence I guess. Lmao
Tim, you are spot on. But part of me agrees with Donald Smith as well. This organization has become blinded by its past successes, and putting more emphasis on sell outs rather than on what created the sell outs in the first place. I hope Rocky doesn’t wait until the UC is empty again before making some moves. And that merges with Donald’s point. We are not as far away as some think, though I’m not ready to trust this current management team to do something positive about it. Colliton is the wrong guy for the job, IMO. He’s not ready. Dressing 7 defensemen and 11 forwards the other day is just one example of his faulty instincts, and at a time when we were having real success rolling four lines. Playing Kane for 30 minutes, or whatever it was, to compensate for that dumb move was an accident waiting to happen. Fortunately for us, Kane didn’t get hurt. And then playing Crow last night when we’ve had great success rotating the goalies every other game is another example of his bad choices. Trusting your instincts is one thing, but not having enough experience to know which instinct to trust is another. We all say that young players need time to develop into real NHL talent. Well, I think the exact same logic applies to coaches. Bottom line, after watching last night, my guess is that that was the first loss in an upcoming 4 game losing streak.
Oh, and Gustafsson is horrendous. If anyone needs to sit, it’s him.
Sometimes we have to ask ourselves…
wtff do they practice in practice ?
Kaner in the corner BEHIND GOAL LINE in our zone as a RW..
Never suppose to get deeper that faceoff circle dot as a winger.
Guess that “Rule” is Not Known.
smh
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Not sure what league you watch where wingers don’t go deeper than faceoff circle.
Why not try Toews some at winger to see if it helps pick up his play. Dach can try centering him with 19 available to help on fos. Dach hasn’t been awful in a limited number of fos he has taken, Colliton obviously has no confidennce though in his fo ability as rewards him for holding his own by not letting him take any in last half of game.
You cant run the ball 9 times out of every 10 plays and expect to win more then .500 and we have done that since 3-6, were 7-4. So system Fricking sucks.
Morrison, you said this in an earlier post;
“How does two of the best coaches not work in this league anymore. Q and Babcock.”
Um, no offense, but Q has been Florida’s head coach since way before this season started. Former assistant Mike Kitchen is his Assistant Head Coach there.
I have no idea, because I havnt looked, but I didnt see TOR or FLR at 15-5 like the top temas record wise. I have no idea where FLR is record wise but imagine they are not better then 5 over .500 for that matter though there is only a couple teams with 15-5 type records.
What is FLR record in the weak East conference, which seems to boast the better records amounst the top 10 teams records wise.
East team 12-7, equals a West team at 9-9. Conference easy weaker.
Looked for first time this season, FLR is 4 games over .500 but ties for
8th in cinference.
So they are boraderline playoffs in a weak conference.
FLR is in West they are right where we are plus or minus 1.
So we have work to do because we have a better roster and are not playing a weak East conference sch.
TOR and CHI want Stanley Cup cailbur tema coaching. Make the switch.
Q should have gone to TOR. With that roster they could win Cup.
How is FLR PK and PP.
Even on dynasty yrs PP here wasnt that good.
Wonder how they are % wise in FLR with that roster and weak East competition.
What makes East sonference weak is they have 7 or more of worst teams in league, roster wise.
Ian,do you realize that you have proposed moving our top all world #1 center to the wing.Man is that 10.5 million a year well spent huh?It shows how low this organization has sunk.Dont get me wrong,I am with you from a hockey strategy.perspective.Hell,I have previously recommended putting him as a 3rd line center.
And based on polls taken around the league we are not alone.
Were not there yet, but these teams are and they
NAS 12-9
SAJ 14-12
LVG 13-11
CAL 12-12
in weaker conference sch wise
TOR 12-11
Those should be 5 of top 10 teams, they are 5 of the top 10 teams just have record for not as good as they are.
Anyways, those teams should be better for how good they are. So should we. We should be 15-10-5 for how good we really are.
Still need to clean house.
Q would have this roster at 12- 7 or 15-10 which is btter then NAs or same as DAL, after 11-0 run. Righ there as playoff team, but we need to be better to win.
So maybe this is a good thing, to force us to make the rigtt moves.
Q and Bab are combined 5 games over .500 with top 10 teams. That 2 or so over .500 each, not top two coaches quality. I know FLR doesnt have top 10 team , but TAMPON has top two team roster wise.
Can we take Q back and get rid of other positions.
I would think that means wing for what better for this roster, not that Tazer who is The best center Cup champion in the league is only as good as every other 3rd line center in keague, now that hes 30 age wise.
Its more that with 12 17 or 88 as 2nd line, when Dach a future top 3 player in league is 1st center, then where does 19 go.
Without 88 and 12 17 2nd line kind of players, 19 77 are 1st or 2nd line centers. Its the make up more then the player.
To me I see us loading down the center, for centers. Then whos a 1st 2nd 3rd line center compared to keague.
We ahd a dynasty, in cup era, with 10 26 91 as 2nd line centers. No other team does that. We had really good depth at wing to do that.
We were, so deep, we had Buff spreadin his arms in front of those flatlanders from VAN and saying, suck on thaaaaaat!
As he looked thorugh the glass at those chumps.
I am not always right, havnt ever been wrong.
Just seems weird that Q and Babcock who are? the two best coaches, arnt top 10 teams anymore. Iguess right place right time, though TOR had? a top 5 team.
Want us to get back where we started from.
Tim, Colliton is starting the only player on the regular roster without a goal this season at center on the his top offensive line. Go figure
Thanks guys for getting to what we need to do for the team and doing it with class.
Success with honor.
Need a line with firepower against nthis team, wouda went
12 19 88
20 77 65
15 22 92
8 64 57
I’ve stopped watching – can’t take it anymore
Now CC is replacing Lehner – I think this is all a result of JC not sticking to his goalie rotation in the first COL game
5-1 in the second and Avs don’t look like they are slowing. Anyone that thinks this Hawks team is playoff material should be committed. Fire the entire coaching staff after this game and try a new approach. By the way it’s 6-1 now
Turn out lights the party is over…
When the walls start tumbling down….
I agree load up 12 19 88, 8 77 92, 20 65 sikura, 22 64 15
Gonna watch Law and Order now.
Wow. It’s like watching Germany vs Brazil in the 2014 World Cup.
Trip – My comparison is the Harlem Globetrotters vs. the Washington Generals. What an embarrassment.
We are also getting a look at the real Lehner.He has had problems in every place he has played.Trotz wanted no part of him.Not blaming tonight on him but the guy has demons and is not what this team needs.They are too fragile and the older guys just tune criticism out.
Except for a couple of players, these guys literally quit on this game after that long failed pp and Avs goal right after it. Something needs to change right away, namely the coach.
Is anyone home in the Blackhawks front office???Many coaches and g.ms have been fired for less.
It’s disheartening and embarrassing. But for the best in the long run as the ‘pretend to contend’ is over.
This is this team without amazing goal tending.
5. 7″ Debrincat showing he cares, at least.
I saw the Chicago feed yesterday and they showed Rocky Wirtz at the game (not sure if he is at all games). That had to be embarrassing to watch and tonight makes that look like a nail biter. If this crap doesn’t result in some major changes then I’m not sure what will.
The really sad fact is our bottom 6 are ok – it’s our top 6 that can’t compete with good teams.
Exactly.
EVERY PLAY… FEED KANE THE PUCK… WATCH HIM SHOOT
Put Toews on the market… see what his worth is ($10m)…. lmaooooo
Thank God 88 scored.Whew the trip was worthwhile.
No way this roster makes playoffs. And back to back against Colorado, well, we saw again tonight they are way too strong. All on Bowwman with this roster and the coach is a Novice!
Pierre Gauthier: “Hey Stan, I think Carpenter is perfect fit, skates slow, early 30’s niot too much NHL mileage….”
Stan Bowman: “I agree, forget Donskoi, I would rather pay another 4th line player and sign him for 3 years… and then I can trade AA forth another 4th line player….then I can sign a backup goalie for 5 million dollars and trade him for nothing at the trading dead line.”
Pierre Gauthier: “Great idea Stan!By the way, let’s keep signiung playersv that cannort make other teams and hit a home run and showw the NHL brass how good we are Stan”
Stan Bowman: “Right on Pierre….I saw Kampf, Wedin, Kubalik dominate in Europe….These guys will be impact players for us, BIG TIME!!! By the way, any news on our Belgium soccer goalie..just in case Delia is a bust?”