Blackhawks Beat Senators In Shootout

The bad Blackhawks hosted the equally-bad Senators at the United Center on Wednesday night and Chicago continued to show a strong allergic reaction to having a lead.

Patrick Kane got Chicago on the board with his 23rd of the year 14:19 into the first period.

Vinnie Hinostroza and David Kampf picked up assists on the Kane goal.

The Hawks held onto that lead for less than two minutes, however. Zack Smith tied the game at 15:56 and that’s where the opening 20 minutes would end. Chicago out-shot Ottawa 14-4 in the first period but managed only the one goal.

The song remained the same in the second period.

Artem Anisimov scored his 16th of the season at 5:52 into the second.

Kane and Erik Gustafsson were credited with assists on the Anisimov goal.

The Hawks held onto their lead for more than six minutes this time, certainly a moral victory at this point in the season. But Matt Duchene blew a shot threw Jordan Oesterle and past Anton Forsberg to tie the game.

After 40 minutes, the Blackhawks held a 24-18 shot advantage but the game was tied at two.

The third period may have cured insomnia.

And the game went to overtime.

The overtime was entertaining with both sides getting a few really good chances. But the goaltenders – and posts – did their jobs and fans got a shootout because this was a game that deserved a skills competition.

The Hawks went Toews-Kane-Anthony Duclair to start the shootout, and only Kane was able to convert. But only Duchene scored for Ottawa so, again, fittingly, there were extra shooters.

Alex DeBrincat was the fourth shooter for Chicago and he was able to beat Mike Condon. But Mike Hoffman answered.

Anisimov shot fifth for Chicago and got stopped. But Marian Gaborik was shut down by Forsberg.

Tomas Jurco shot sixth for the Blackhawks and failed, hitting the post. Tom Pyatt wasn’t able to beat Forsberg, and the shootout continued.

Nick Schmaltz was called on seventh and he beat Condon. Mark Stone couldn’t get around Forsberg and the Blackhawks emerged victorious.

Before the game, the Blackhawks honored a tremendous two-way center who wore #19 after playing at the University of North Dakota.

69 thoughts on “Blackhawks Beat Senators In Shootout

  • February 21, 2018 at 10:11 pm

    Who is next to be honored, Ethan Moreau?

  • February 21, 2018 at 10:16 pm

    As far as the game goes, Oesterle on second Ottawa goal highly poor positioning. I would rather see Svedberg recalled next week let him get some games in, maybe he s improved.

  • February 21, 2018 at 10:31 pm

    Let everyone play especially he guys were not going to keep that had to wait to play and might not be back. To start the season Hayden and which ever guys will be here when we come back with vengeance.

    Feels good to win and sort of sneaky good to not win or tie to maintain out 9th pick/before draw.

    Play Crow when ready just for 5 games so people donot have a during summer saying its all over because we donot know for sure if Crow can be the top 2 goaltender in conference he is. Have him play the last 5/or 5oflast 10.

    After we make what ever trades we do at deadline watch the team play good.

  • February 21, 2018 at 10:31 pm

    Glad to see Troy Murray get honored was a tremendous 2 way player and a great Blackhawk. Good to see real Blackhawks get honors some very decent teams that just couldn’t get past Edmonton. As for tonight’s game it was OK nice shoot out goals by Kane and DeBrincat. Hopefully some of the guys that played tonight might be interesting to playoff teams.

  • February 21, 2018 at 10:52 pm

    I watched his playing career in my seats in the old barn & am grateful to have come to know him via the hawk alumni over the years.

    Troy Murray is as classy a player & person who has EVER worn the indian head!

    If 19 ever gets retired it should honor both 19’s just like #3

  • February 21, 2018 at 10:55 pm

    Got the win. Hope to see the young guys down the stretch, see whats there, get a start on next year. Going to pick 7th or 8th anyways, Florida playing good hockey now likely finish ahead now and Detroit not so good. Good chance the players Florida or Detroit want aren”t the same guys we would draft so quite possibly end up with same pick regardless.

  • February 22, 2018 at 12:04 am

    This is hard. Hoping they lose is hard to do. I feel like a traitor. It just goes against the grain, plus I want individual players to do well and if they do well it probably means the team is doing well. It’s like my heart and head are having a civil war. Oh well … the Hawks got 2 points against another bottom feeder who isn’t going to make the playoffs and the good news is most of the Hawks opponents going down the stretch of the season will be teams vying for playoff positioning so there won’t be many more cupcakes on the schedule … in fact the Hawks will play the role of cupcake to those playoff teams.

  • February 22, 2018 at 12:15 am

    Sock puppets.

  • February 22, 2018 at 1:25 am

    Just watched the women’s gold medal game WOW that was some hockey. CONGRATULATIONS ladies you did yourselves proud! Hopefully next year we’ll be able to be excited about our HAWKS! Morrison keep the positive vibes coming we’re going to need them for the rest of the season. Goforfour I agree with you 100% Troy Murray was all class!

  • February 22, 2018 at 1:30 am

    I meet a girl and her family in 2011 Lake Placid she was on womens US team U-something team. I forgot her name she was younger then so prob around 22 or so ish. They were from Illinois and Blackhawks people. They were nice and I ate with them when they saw my hat. Wonder if she was one of them celebrating there.

  • February 22, 2018 at 7:07 am

    Well, Ottawa is having a worse year than the Hawks, I always liked Troy Murray, hard working Centerman.

  • February 22, 2018 at 7:23 am

    Strong games from-

    Hino, Kampf, Dahlstrom

    Who was the guy on this site saying… Dahlstrom was trash???

    Comparing Dahlstrom to all of Kempny, Ruuta, Forsling, Clendenning, Dahlbeck, etc…. In small sample of games-
    Excellent quick first pass, shows patience under pressure, Excellent agility for bigger guy (not fast, but able to turn/change directions quickly (unlike Seabrook)).
    Good knack for Pinching, doesn’t chase game (like Kempny)

    to Date- has made One horrible TO ( I have missed several periods though- due to Blackhawk’s Play)

    This guy is easily in Top 6 next year (again based on small sample)… might even be top 4… if he could block shots like Hammer (which we have NOT seen yet)

    Kampf- continues to impress me- Makes great/quick subtle passes … ++ skater
    seems to have good chemistry with Hino…

    I would love to see Tim Soderlund skate with those two- next year!!! That line would be FUN to watch… Soderlund plays/skates a lot like Hino (less skill) but he is ON every puck… Hair on fire line!!!

    Toews- How many whiffs/and grade chances did he Miss net on or shoot into goalies chest??? guy is closer to Kruger than he is to Toews pre 2015 season

  • February 22, 2018 at 7:48 am

    That was a game of disinterest and a little bit of sadness for two reasons-one that the Hawks have fell that far to barely beat a hurting team with 7 road wins all year and really wanting them to lose to increase draft odds-
    Weird year.

    Well they should lose the next two unless they play much better than last night. Thank God for Kaner, he makes it watchable.

  • February 22, 2018 at 9:06 am

    Were not playing good like we were games 20-45 where we beat them 8-1 or beat NYR WIN and other good teams twice. Now starting 10 games ago/whenever it was, That VAN game after long break we have been not good overall. 9th pick before draw. FLR and DET suck and theres no way well stay ahead of them in draft.

  • February 22, 2018 at 9:34 am

    Pretty ugly game except for Debincat’s sick shootout goal. Not too many guys in the league that could pull that one off.

  • February 22, 2018 at 9:35 am

    Svedberg sucks and should not ever wear a Hawks jersey again. He is what he is. There is no sudden improvement that would make him a legit option even as a 5th or 6th dman

  • February 22, 2018 at 10:00 am


    I wonder if that family you mentioned was the Coynes. They’re from the south side. Kendall Coyne is one of the stars of the US team. I believe they’re from Palos. My wife was pals with the mom from high school.

  • February 22, 2018 at 10:19 am

    Mo after the allstar break Florida won 8 straight games. Then lost 7 2 to Jets and 1 0 to Leafs. They are 2 points back with 4 games on hand, so just figured it looks like they are looking like they might finish ahead of the Blackhawks.

  • February 22, 2018 at 10:53 am

    Nice write-up Tab. It was indeed a snooze fest between two teams that seemed to lack much motivation. Empty seats at the UC increasing now game to game. Noticeably less enthusiastic Lets Go Hawks! cheers too. Forsberg had a pretty good game to my eyes. I kept thinking Hawks CAN’T lose at home to Ottawa, but they certainly left that possibility open given lackluster play, especially after the 1st period.

    Weird to be at the UC in Feb. knowing this team is basically playing out the string with no hope of playoffs. Strange indeed. It’s been a long time.

    Highlight last night was honoring Troy Murray before the puck drop. I clapped and hollered until my hands hurt. Those of us that were able to watch him play at the Stadium certainly appreciated his tenacity and excellent 2 way play. He was always assigned to cover Gretzky on those great Oilers teams which was basically an impossible task. I remember one game where Gretzky was on some insane scoring streak and Troy had him shutdown at the Stadium until late in the game when 99 finally buried one. Murray broke his stick in half and was so pissed off.
    Those early- mid 80’s Hawks teams were really fun to watch, and Troy was a big part of that gutsy group. I have been fortunate to have spoken with him a few times at Hawks road games at morning skates. Very friendly. Both he and John Weideman are class acts in the radio booth and very personable guys that call a great game. Thanks again Troy!!

    Lets Go Hawks!

  • February 22, 2018 at 11:08 am

    Yea that’s cool man they have been playing/winning games and we did that 0-7-1 just to get tied with them. I want us to be ahead of them pick wise. Just figured we would win more then half our games and will they. We really are settled in that area what scares me is those NYR NYI CLB CAR NJD type teams they better not lose games all the sudden like NYR and get ahead of us. Especially NJD they deserve to be behind us because of their for real now start in the first 20 games.

  • February 22, 2018 at 11:10 am

    It’s not just about this season. The 5 coming yrs are good and we want another Cup for the core guys. Get Hoss on staff.

  • February 22, 2018 at 11:11 am

    Actually have to disagree with Phil about last night’s game. I was at game with my wife and was impressed by the size of the crowd. I looked it up and it was 21,532 (109.2% of capacity). I’m a long-time season ticket holder (since 1982) and have a pretty good idea of what’s a nice-sized crowd and what isn’t.

    This “dwindling interest” theme some people harp on is being felt only at the margins (e.g. price you get when you put your tickets up for sale). Attendance numbers remain strong.

  • February 22, 2018 at 11:45 am

    Looking at Florida’s schedule, 25 games left next 5 are tough ones but in their last 20 they have Sens 3 times, Habs & Sabres 2 twice. Plus also play NYR, Oilers, Ariz., Canes, NYI, Flyers and CBJ. So could easily go over 500 down the stretch. They went 7 and 1 after allstar break not 8 and 0, my mistake.

  • February 22, 2018 at 12:03 pm

    Well before I started thinking F I lose my blouse. Which for me was that VAN(the 2nd time not when we were down 3-0 like 5 games in a row which now were like up 1-0 ten games in a row) after we got going good again then that did it for me that one. I looked at the standings not rankings and saw 5 of 7 worst teams in hockey were in that division. And EDM just keeps on sucking, that bad.

    Then we did that and were there with FLR and DET. So what I saw the. Was that those 5 teams play each other and will get free wins by each other so much (sort of like how teams in the hardest division will get free loses by playing each other so much). Which helps for pick not for better record.

    If we’re ahead of FLR we get 8th right. Unless fricken NYR or one of those teams mess with that. 8th is cool what’s that for a Top 3 like 17%.

  • February 22, 2018 at 12:07 pm

    It’s pretty clear that Dahlstrom (or as Lauren Magiera of WGN calls him – Dolltrin) is in the mix for next year. Samuelson and Dineen have said they want him to get a little bit meaner out there though and use that big body to his advantage more. A work in progress but promise for sure.

    Speaking of Samuelson and Dineen ……. there’s been talk on this board about Q needing to go and also not needing to go. What about these two guys? There was an assistant coach change last season and have been others before. Now obviously if Q were to go (don’t think it’s gonna happen) his assistants would likely be gone too. But does anybody think Samuelson and Dineen are automatically around next season even with Q staying on?

  • February 22, 2018 at 12:11 pm

    That sounds like a transformer Dolltrin.

  • February 22, 2018 at 12:36 pm

    Ulf yes. Dineen no. Look at special teams. PK sucked last year. Ulf comes in and their 6th… if Q goes, I could see Ulfie taking the reigns.

    Dineen works the PP…and its abhorrent.

  • February 22, 2018 at 12:56 pm

    Didn’t notice the Rangers were dropping tgat quick, probably not winning alot the rest of the way either. Wings have a rough schedule next month but end up with last 4 or 5 of last opponents not being a meaningful game for them though, may come into play. Still be 8th or 9th spot at the end of the day and may be the guy they are targetting anyways.
    Yeah agree pp could be an albatross for Dineen but as mentioned here before how many times do blame him or coaches do you blame.

  • February 22, 2018 at 1:00 pm

    Q has had a really solid power play in only one of his 10 years here. that is really poor given the talent that has flowed thru over that decade.

    Q looks like he has lost the room and has lost his fire, doesn’t care, & would love a pink slip so he could go bet the ponies and get courted by other teams while he collects hawks paychecks.

    let donny granato have the reigns and bring in his own coaching team, maybe including brother tony and let’s start the whole rebuild with fresh minds and blood. donny won big with the U17’s which means he can read and communicate with and motivate today’s young players which is no small trick & a talent that Q clearly lacks.

    as I have written here before, I have nothing but respect and gratitude for what Q and his coaches have delivered this franchise the last 10 years, but in business and sports and life in general, there comes a time for change and it is now behind the hawks bench.

    forever a hawks fan: can’t wait to goforfour, but it will be a while unless large changes are made.

  • February 22, 2018 at 1:12 pm

    I disagree w/ goforfour’s assertion that large changes need to be made. If the Hawks can get rid of the dead weight (Sharp, Bouma, Wingels) and get some young bucks into the lineup (Hayden, Sikura) in their place, this team becomes faster and more dynamic – which is what needs to happen. On the blue line, if the Hawksget 82 games from Dahlstrom like we’ve seen thus far, he’s already an upgrade from the Franson experiment this season. And I like Murphy’s development. Add one of Jokiharju/Mitchell to the mix in place of Oesterle and that’s a better defensive group.

    The fall off this season has been dramatic but let’s not act like the cupboard is bare. Hinostroza and DeBrincat have shown that they’re able to be NHL contributors every night. Get them more than 13-14 minutes per game and roll in some other younger faces and see what happens.

    Look at the Kings’ bounceback seasons from Kopitar, Doughty for an example of this being a reality.

  • February 22, 2018 at 1:24 pm

    @Wirtz, I didn’t say the crowd was down by a large percentage, but it is true that there are many more empty seats than we are used to seeing. The UC is a big arena and still mostly full as you correctly pointed out, but in my section 231 and section next to me 232 in Club Level, 2-3 seats per row were empty and section over from me had blocks of 5-7 empties in some rows. The regulars aren’t there game in and game out like they used to be. This is not normal. I’m saying this is a trend that has begun based on the level of play that has been developing over the past 3-4 games. Us longtime fans are obviously not pleased with what we have been seeing on the ice of late. We pay a lot of money to watch these games. I sold the Caps game because I was busy, but I go to almost all the games and the ones I can’t make go to friends and family. I want the seats filled regardless.

    It is likely I will split next season for the first time with a pair of season ticket holders that sit a few seats down from me. Prices are up again for next year and our team is in transition and appears to be on the decline. I’m a lifelong Hawks fan. I love watching competitive NHL hockey, but is very high priced entertainment. Ticket prices have more than doubled I think since 2008. My financial commitment will likely be less next year based on what I am seeing on the ice.

    Lets Go Hawks!

  • February 22, 2018 at 1:30 pm

    Q randomly cracks the confidence of young talent with his yo-yo doghouse routines and then all the sudden he will have a favorite pet like TVR who he shows confidence in and develops even with mistakes and limited talent. so much of the raw talent the bowmans bring in gets squandered: TT and Leddy being prime examples. he is close to cracking murphy’s confidence which would be a real waste.

    most of my hockey friends agree with tab on Q and it is hard to argue with his career record. also I have talked to various former players and current national announcers who say he is the best bench coach in the game, but I have to call it as I see it and I think new coaching blood would help the hawks move into the next generation of teams and cups.

  • February 22, 2018 at 1:48 pm

    Agree Tab the blueline can improve fairly easy with moves you mentioned and also the possibility of drafting an impact defenseman who could help right away. Also Sikura, Highmore and maybe Soderlund allow Bowman to move a young forward or two and a quality young defenseman could be brought back too.

  • February 22, 2018 at 3:16 pm

    Wow. If the Bruins can land a 3rd round pick for Frank Vitrano, Stan Bowman should do pretty well in this market. Vitrano is a good AHL player who cannot produce at the NHL level, much like Jurco.

  • February 22, 2018 at 4:46 pm

    Noticed that Craig, wonder why Tallon is giving away draft picks for fringe depth players too.

  • February 22, 2018 at 5:53 pm

    Can we get a third round pick for Bowman?

  • February 22, 2018 at 6:34 pm

    Wall what are you talking about Toews had a good game. It was His linemates both Saad and Wingels who were the two worst players on the ice and the ones whiffing and the reason Wingels had his ass stapled to the bench but he is a 4th liner and has no business being on the top line. Go back and watch again. When Tiews was out there with Hino or Kane there was good chemistry. You are right about Hino and Kampf both were good especially Hino. dahlstrom had one really bad turnover that should have been a goal but Forsberg saved him, in fact he had a great game especially in the shootout

  • February 22, 2018 at 6:36 pm

    And yes Oesterle is not great in the D zone. Thought Gus played well though

  • February 22, 2018 at 6:58 pm

    I will be anxious to see what happens at the trade deadline after that there is no excuse for not playing the kids. I don’t want to hear Sikura’s name anymore because I don’t think he will sign with us. After whats happened with Hayden why should he. The only thing I can say to entice him would be to guarantee him a spot on the line with Kane. I hope I’m wrong about this we need his skill and youth.

  • February 22, 2018 at 10:13 pm

    In the lull between losses … er … I mean, in the lull between games, I thought I would screw up my courage and go full bore optimism. As in, what if everything good that could happen for the Hawks over the 16 months actually happens – could the Hawks win the 2018/19 Cup? If everything goes the Hawks way – why not?

    Toews, Saad, Keith and Hartman all have bounce back years. Schmaltz, DeBrincat and Hinostroza keep progressing. Sikura signs and plays well enough to be in the Calder conversation. The Hawks draft a stud d-man who is so good he supplants Keith as the #1 d-man by end of season. The Hawks trade for a young top-4 d-man. Crawford comes back 100% and stays healthy. Two or three of Forsling, Rutta, Murphy and Dahlstrom improve enough to be solid contributors.

    Is that too much to ask?

  • February 22, 2018 at 10:40 pm

    Hayden will be back. If Sikura is good enough he play top 6 by earning it. Not going for Hayes bigger then coachs attitude. Which was the biggest mistake of his career, would have a Cup if he was a winner.

    Hayden is a winner.

  • February 23, 2018 at 1:36 am

    Grabner for a 2nd rounder and a prospect. Good trade by the Rangers.
    I still hope that Stan moves Bouma and Franson for one draft pick in 2018 and one in 2019.
    I looked at the last few drafts and it appears Stan likes between 8 and 9 picks. In 2015 we had 7 but the Hawks were coming off winning the Stanley Cup and Mark Kelley was quoted as saying our number 1 pick = Vermette, was a key reason we won the Stanley Cup.

  • February 23, 2018 at 6:03 am

    Bowman likes to add a free pick by trading down a little when we have option even if its for following draft.

    ER, well do that. Might not be 19, we do that in 19 or 20 and have a good deep roster for a few yrs after until cap does it again. Maybe by then though some of core guys retire or trade so cap wont and we find replacement then.

    Be nice to get a really good deal at deadline with lots of teams buying. More then ever and less then ever selling that can remember. We have moar extras as well.

  • February 23, 2018 at 8:46 am

    What are the opinions re: whether the Hawks should trade Hartman? It’s an interesting topic on a lazy Friday a.m.

  • February 23, 2018 at 9:11 am

    Here’s one. Must be nice to make millions of dollars and phone it in for a year.and think ohhh I try next year lol Toews Toews Toews. Seabrooooooook. Saaaaaaaaaaaaaad Keiiiiiiiiith. And there no better than Ottawa vanc Arizona buffalo. Bottom feeders. Face it there talent skilled declined cause of age and amount of hockey they played in ten years with a full season & playoff games and toss in Olympics and Canada cup. It’s called deteriorating skills cause from physical body battering and age. The game is now all about speed , youth as in under 25 and playing with guys for at least 3 years and 4 full lines and 2 goalies That’s not on Q. It’s on players I named & Bowman ! But at least they can work on there golf game again.

  • February 23, 2018 at 9:36 am

    I have no problem moving Hartman if its a good return. If you could land an upgrade on defense be a good move, or a high pick.

  • February 23, 2018 at 9:39 am

    Don’t expect anybody would give up a first round pick, but maybe a 2nd and another lower round pick or prospect.

  • February 23, 2018 at 10:14 am

    Hartman is one of the few players on this team that plays with an edge. At 23 years old he may still have some upside. I would try to move Anisimov, Saad, Wingels, Bouma, Seabs, Jurco and Murphy before Hartman.

  • February 23, 2018 at 10:35 am


    I’ve heard the discussion that all the Hawks need to do is add several pieces and then their window is still open. I’m not sure I buy that stance whatsoever. I think they are much closer to a complete rebuild. Here are a few reasons why I feel that way.

    Q has 1 yr left on this deal, if Stan doesnt make whole changes how much better is this team going to be in 12 months? Even if Crawford was healthy how much better would this team have been? Wild Card at best.
    Speaking of Crow, he is 33 coming off some health issues
    The power play continues to be absolutely abysmal. They need a defender who can QB a power play. I suppose if Henri Jokiharju can be that it would help but thats asking alot.
    The Core 4 has vastly underwhelmed despite eating up over 33 million of salary, they are not going ANYWHERE anytime soon.

    I’ve heard rumors that the Org may me moving some of Stan’s Hockey Ops Staff out after several years of botched trades at the conclusion of the season. We shall see

  • February 23, 2018 at 11:18 am

    I agree with Ian that Hartmann could get us back into second round. Hartman and Wingels might bundle nicely (late first rounder for the pair?). AA and Saad would be harder to move, but these three are our best candidates to get back some real value (and are all built for the playoff grind). The rest are either too expensive or not worth that much. Time for Stan to get creative and do some fleecing. It’s a seller’s market.

  • February 23, 2018 at 11:34 am

    I agree with 1961 about Hartman having an edge, which the vast majority of Hawks lack. Somebody would take him, but the Hawks need a couple of guys that are tough to play against and can play with quickness and now you would need one more. The second round is very hit and miss-is it worth giving up on that upside for maybe?

  • February 23, 2018 at 12:08 pm

    I can see arguments for both keeping Hartman and trading him. Once you get outside the top 10 the draft it is increasingly hit and miss, but even within the top 10 there are Skilles, Beeches, and Barkers luring you towards the rocks. I think we need to add higher end prospects. If there were guys that fit that bill that we might get between 25 an 40 I think it would be worth the risk. As for grit vs speed, I think you need to look for both together. My issue with our picks is that the bias towards skill and possession has made us far too soft not just with the current roster, but in the pipeline as well.

  • February 23, 2018 at 12:20 pm

    despite Hartman’s “grit” I would not be interested in the Hawks resigning him. I cant imagine him looking at minimum deal. So I would expect his salary demands between 2-4 million a yr of 3 or 4 years. No Thanks. Grit can be drafted.

  • February 23, 2018 at 1:08 pm

    Hartman clearly is not worth 4 mil a year at this stage of his career and nobody would pay him that kind of money. I would not have a problem keeping him for 1.5 – 2 mil a year for 3 years max.

  • February 23, 2018 at 1:25 pm

    I agree 61 if Hartman, Hino, Hayden and Duclair are resigned I expect 1 to 3 year deals for them all. 1.2m up to 1.7 m per year.range for them all.

  • February 23, 2018 at 2:02 pm

    I have mixed feelings about DuClair Ian. The guy has terrific speed but I do not think he has the best hands or vision and his boardwork has been underwhelming. The 3 H’s are worth keeping in the money range you suggested.

  • February 23, 2018 at 2:11 pm

    Hartman- is worth around $1.2M… I wouldn’t hesitate to move him – if he thinks closer to $2M…

    DuClair… around the same maybe… few more 100k per

    Hino– Here is the guy the Hawks/ slow played… I think he is actually leading Hawks in scoring when TOI is considered (or points per minute) … one of the few guys driving play last 15-25 games… He deserves closer to $2M.

    Re: trades… both Hartman/Hino are local boys…. so when the team is sucking (like now)… It might be beneficial to Hawks to “sell” the game– based on Local kids / making/playing in the Show!

  • February 23, 2018 at 2:32 pm

    If i had the choice, keep Hartman move Duclair would be a no brainer to me. However Hartman is easier to move and brings a better return.

  • February 23, 2018 at 2:50 pm

    61 and Ian, in moving Duclair we are not going to get anything higher than a 4th rounder or raw prospect. Has great speed, good shot, and a makes good passes, but is lacking in other areas. Hartman should get us a 2nd rounder or decent prospect. He gives us badly needed toughness with some skill. Without him, we are very thin at the bottom six.

  • February 23, 2018 at 3:05 pm

    I think this time of the year, especially in a down cycle, people want to get rid of almost everyone–most of which can’t be or should be traded.
    AA, Bouma, Sharp? and Franson are candidates and hopefully we get a 2nd rounder this year. (Wingels is a good depth guy IMO)

    Not sure about Duclair as like Panik there is a reason they get moved a lot early in their careers. With that speed and skill Duclair can show he should be a really good top 9 NHLer but isn’t and there is usually a reason why on his third team.

  • February 23, 2018 at 3:06 pm

    I agree Original, Hartman would get a 2nd rounder. But that would mean the Hawks just gave up on a 1st rounder and traded him for a 2nd rounder. I just think it may be too early to give up on Hartman.

  • February 23, 2018 at 3:15 pm

    I agree Noonan, on paper DuClair looks like a top 9 guy. I was expecting more production from him.

  • February 23, 2018 at 3:38 pm

    I wondering if we are starting to get a glimpse of next year. Obviously Wingels isn’t staying on top line but after Monday that should change and Hinostroza sparks that line and maybe he plays there. Starting to think maybe AA isn’t going anywhere and when Sikura signs he gets a look with him and Kane. Then you have young guys Schmaltz, Debrincat and Duclair with Hayden who can give Schmaltz and the Cat some net front presence if needed or he can play with Kampf and maybe Highmore fits in there too. Even if traded Wingels resigned could provide a useful 13th role forward , plays wing or center and gives a energy boost. That would make Hartman expendable and packaged right may be able to land a nice young Dman who along with Jokharju can rejuvenate the defence next year.

  • February 23, 2018 at 3:46 pm

    Just had a pipe dream! Chicago sends Crawford to Montreal and Seabrook to Edmonton. Montreal sends Price to Edmonton and Deslauriers to Chicago. Edmonton send Nurse to Chicago and Nugent Hopkins to Montreal!

  • February 23, 2018 at 3:50 pm

    You can always trade a player later. Unless trade is worthwhile its more worthwhile to have Hartzy then to not.

  • February 23, 2018 at 3:57 pm

    Not sure on Duclair yet. Every younger guy shouldn’t get more then 1.5 except for 8 in bridge contract before/after elc/over bridge. Nobody did that good this yr/12. Not that they donot deserve money but really not many did good this yr. for how good they really are. Donot mean score 20 goals like 38 did rookie yr, not about goals, just overall play. 4m F no, 1.5 area yes for bridge.

  • February 23, 2018 at 3:57 pm

    1961, keep in mind that Hartman went 30th the year we won the cup, so he was on the cusp. If Winnipeg is interested, let’s hope they don’t sucker Stan into taking back Dano. Seriously, Hartman should command a high 2nd round pick, a mid-2nd round plus 3rd round, or very good prospect.

  • February 23, 2018 at 4:00 pm

    JR very much a dream-Edmonton already has the worlds’s slowest forward-Lucic, Seabrook isn’t going there-
    the great thing about McDavid is they’re always close to magic, they need some speed to go with him. Losing Nugent H would guarantee the loss of the GMs job which will might happen anyways.

    Nurse would be a nice d-man for the Hawks, wish that was a possibility.

  • February 23, 2018 at 9:45 pm

    I don’t think anyone who’s hitting RFA on this last place team has much of a leg to stand on when it comes to contract demands. Hartman’s a classic 2-year bridge deal candidate. I’d prefer it be around $1.5M but as a former first round pick he’s probably more likely to be in the $2M range.

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