Blackhawks Blow 3-Goal Lead In St. Louis, Lose Again

Saturday night’s game in St. Louis clearly defined every frustrating part of the 2019-20 Blackhawks season.

The Hawks went into the barn of the defending Stanley Cup champions and an arch rival (pun intended) after getting their asses handed to them in the first period in Arizona. One would think, after giving up three goals in the opening 20 to the Coyotes, the Hawks would make an effort to come out of the gates well.

St. Louis out-shot the Blackhawks 13-2 in the opening 20 minutes.

Thankfully, the score remained tied at zero.

After surviving the first period, the Hawks struck quickly in the second. Brandon Saad sniped home his ninth of the season 19 seconds into the middle frame to give the Blackhawks a 1-0 lead.

The Blackhawks were out-shot 14-9 in the second period but carried their one-goal lead to the third.

Chicago opened the third with a strong statement, just as they did in the second. Saad was set up by Jonathan Toews 30 seconds into the third period for his second of the night and tenth goal of the season.

Less than four minutes later Dylan Strome set up Patrick Kane and the suddenly surging Hawks were up 3-0.

Things actually felt pretty good for the first time in a while for Hawks fans. A three-goal lead on the road in St. Louis was stunning after the performance in Arizona. Certainly the Hawks would hang on, right?


Just as they did in Boston, a three-goal lead in the third period wasn’t enough. This time, an awful, terrible, inexcusable turnover by Alex Nylander wound up in the back of the net only 24 seconds after the Kane goal.

Nylander should have been done of the night after that turnover. He wasn’t. Jeremy Colliton continues to show little consistency with how and with whom he enforces any accountability. The shutout was over and the wheels had just started to fall off.

Robert Thomas and Tyler Bozak teamed up to flip the script on the Hawks. Thomas set up Bozak for the Blues’ first and second goals. Bozak’s second goal came at 13:08. Jacob De La Rose tied the game 12 seconds later.

The three-goal lead was gone.

Thomas picked up his third assist of the third period when Justin Faulk gave the Blues a 4-3 lead with 2:26 left in regulation.

Chicago got a power play in the final two minutes but opted to pass the puck in a circle for most of the advantage. Nothing got done, even with a two-skater advantage with Corey Crawford on the bench, and the Blues walked away with a regulation win despite being down three early in the third period.

This game sucked to watch. The first period was brutal, but we’ve become accustomed to that, sadly. The second showed some promise and the early burst of offense in the third was encouraging. But blowing another big lead hurts. And the coaching staff continuing to do little/nothing about the same players consistently making the critical mistakes that turn a good situation into a dumpster fire has reached a breaking point.

In the box score, there were a few positives.

Toews has been pretty good lately, and he had a nice night in St. Louis. He dominated at the dot, winning 17 of 20 faceoffs with his two assists and three shots on net in 18:24.

Kane put three shots on net and scored the final goal of the night for Chicago in a forward-leading 20:52 on the ice.

Saad was credited with one blocked shot and one takeaway with two goals in 15:34. He’s been terrific almost this entire season.

Nylander skated 10:46 and, somehow, wasn’t credited with a giveaway.

Crawford stopped 34 of 38.

Connor Murphy had a solid night on the blue line. He led all Blackhawks with 22:30 on the ice and led the team with six blocked shots; Murphy also picked up three hits. Dennis Gilbert led the Hawks with five hits in 19:03.

Adam Boqvist skated only 14:56, the lowest ice time on the blue line, but Colliton send him out on the power play in the closing moments of the game.

The Hawks host Minnesota on Sunday night.

82 thoughts on “Blackhawks Blow 3-Goal Lead In St. Louis, Lose Again

  • December 14, 2019 at 9:49 pm

    Can we just make Seabrook player-coach?

    It can’t be worse than this.

  • December 14, 2019 at 9:50 pm

    Enough of Colliton and his defensive wizardry, take Nylander with him. Keep Highmore around. Don’tcexpect alot but Sikura played his 3rd game in 3 days and 4th in 5 days, put him in tomorrow for Nylander and give him a real opportunity to show up.

  • December 14, 2019 at 9:51 pm

    There are goalie wins. This was a coaching loss. 1000%. Horrendous. The guy is a joke.

    The Hawks used to routinely win games like this bc of the coach.

    Where is Bowman?

  • December 14, 2019 at 9:52 pm

    Stefanie if they could right part of his caphit for doing that be a great idea.

  • December 14, 2019 at 9:52 pm

    Nylander needs to sit a couple games to decide if he wants to play for this team. Colliton just doesn’t have a clue with these players. How the hell do you lose this many 3 goal leads in the 3rd period, unbelievable

  • December 14, 2019 at 9:55 pm

    Highmore checks very well, has speed and plays smart. He should keep playing.

    The only reason Nylander keeps playing and playing a lot all season is bc of the trade; the coach has no balls and doesn’t want to make Bowman look worse than he already has and continues to.

  • December 14, 2019 at 9:56 pm

    Very predictable finish given the state of the team with no situational awareness,maybe the worst coaching staff that has been behind a NHL bench,and a group of forwards who I am really not sure if they know who their man is in the defensive zone.92 has to be taken off this roster now period.Enough said there.If 27 is not going to be a threat offensively at all,he can go play in the Junior Championships.Until this team takes pride in defending they will continue to get horsed and manhandled.To anyone happy with some top players hitting the score sheet tonight,I would say that you have to play all 60 minutes and both ends of the ice.

  • December 14, 2019 at 10:02 pm

    @Ian, I’m trying to be creative.
    Seabs obviously has more hockey knowledge than JC (he’s constantly communicating on the ice& on the bench) and he more than has the respect of the room…
    Why not? It could not be worse than the shitshow it is currently.

  • December 14, 2019 at 10:05 pm

    Two very telling plays by Nylander-
    your goalie has worked hard to have a lead, AND a shut-out and he gives little effort clearing the zone and turns the puck over for the first goal.
    The second play was earlier, 2 on 1 and he decides (ala beer league hockey) to move 15 ft. back so that he can get a weak-ass shot on net to maybe getting a point instead of working hard to get a goal. ???
    Has he even deserved playing time in the last 10 games?

    Only good thing was they keep there hopes alive for top 5 pick and we have a guy-Gilbert, who will stick up for his team and may just strike some fear in the opponents.

  • December 14, 2019 at 10:07 pm

    You WILL NEVER WIN with Seabrook on your team…. BRUTAL…. CLUELESS… no clue how to play defense… can’t skate… seems like he took more concussions than Toews… Team has No clue how to “cover their man”. Season is ova…. Blame coach… but its on the players ALL DAY. ?

  • December 14, 2019 at 10:08 pm

    Good point Tim re Boqvist. He is a skating time bomb defensively. He plays soft. He’s nowhere near ready to play in the NHL right now. He’s a detriment every time he is on the ice.

    He’s also on the petite side.

  • December 14, 2019 at 10:12 pm

    Boqvist is smallish! Soft! He needs a lot of growing up to do. Again, NO MORE SIKURA talk!
    Dach should have the experience of a lifetime playing at the Junior tournament instead of being on a losing team. Bowman just wants to save himself by pushing Dach in the lineup and keeping Nylander in Chicago as well.

  • December 14, 2019 at 10:14 pm

    You know what?…things are going to get worse, much worse, before they get better. Fire Bowman and his hipster coach? Yes as soon as possible! And fire McDonut along with them. But after that we are still stuck with a bad team. The only thing we lack more than talent is confidence. And they haven’t yet hit bottom.

  • December 14, 2019 at 10:16 pm

    Pat Boyle with Fake Outrage on the post game show. This a lottery team not a playoff team. There is nothing to be outraged about.

    Watch the Buffalo Sabres. They have a Franchise Player and difference maker in Jack Eichel. They sold at the deadline, accrued a ton of draft picks and now they have significant pieces to build around in Eichel, Rasmus Dahlin, Casey Middlestadt, Sam Reinhart, Jokiharju and Ristolainen .

    Who do we have to build around ? Kane, Dach, Boqvist, DeBrincat, Strome?

    We are going to get a lottery pick in June regardless of who the GM is. St. Louis did us a favor tonight.
    We need to pick in the top 5.

  • December 14, 2019 at 10:19 pm

    Foley commented early about two Nylander gaffes. That was before the inexcusable turnover. Last time he had a turnover like that, Colliton sat him. He absolutely needs to sit out tomorrow. Actually, he needs to sit out the rest of the year. That TO gave St. Louis momentum and belief.

    How could anybody be surprised they lost this game. When you get outplayed like they did, most nights you will lose. The order of the goals does not matter, but giving up 4 in the third is pretty unbelievable. The only reason they had a lead to begin with was Crawford. St. Louis passes crisply and quickly and they had good chances all night. The first period was a disgrace by the Blackhawks.

    Colliton no longer looks poised behind the bench. He looks like he might erupt.

    Colliton appears under duress when they show him.

  • December 14, 2019 at 10:20 pm

    People need to stop making seebs their punching bag. He really picked up his game and has been more responsible. Solid second pairing defensemen

  • December 14, 2019 at 10:21 pm

    We’re all frustrated and lashing out at almost everything. Okay, play Sikura instead of Nylander tomorrow. But defensemen-wise, we’re really limited right now with Keith injured and DeHaan done for the year. Mitchell is ineligible and Beaudin, Holm, Krys, and Regula need at least the rest of this year to be NHL-ready. So if we sit Seabrook and Gustafsson like many of you want, who do you suggest we play?

    We keep looking at the defensemen versus the defense. Like Lehner said the other night, “our forwards need to get back on defense”. I’m going to agree with Tim that until we started taking pride in protecting our net, we’re going to keep playing like reheated vomit.

  • December 14, 2019 at 10:25 pm

    Crow may have let in one soft goal-but those two goalies should be beyond pissed. Lehner probably can’t wait to get to a legit-healthy franchise, and he landed right in the Hawks lap. Too bad, hopefully they can get a half decent pick-they can’t screw that up can they?
    Craig some good points.

  • December 14, 2019 at 10:36 pm

    Zapping myself with a cattle prod seems more enjoyable than watching a Hawks game.

  • December 14, 2019 at 10:39 pm

    Maybe we can all take solace in the fact that the meek and mild beat writers,TV Broadcasters,and radio announcers for this organization are starting to rattle the bars a little bit.Pat Foley slid in his displeasure with 92 and the Coach on a few occasions,Eddie was noticeably quiet and put away the Pom Poms,Pat Boyle put a couple of more minutes into his post game displeasure,and Beat Writer Mark Lazerus sent out an interesting post game tweet on his lack of accessibility to both McDonough and Bowman for their thoughts on the state of the Blackhawks for the last 2 weeks that he has been seeking an interview.Paging Rocky Wirtz.Rocky,your organization is crumbling.Your move sir.

  • December 14, 2019 at 10:44 pm

    Stefanie agree with you, Seabrook could be excellent coach, like that idea. Certainly have the players respect and theyd likely play hard for him.

  • December 14, 2019 at 10:54 pm

    19, 88, 20, 2, 7,50 not the problem! $5million for a backup! Nylander, Kampf, Cagg, Kubalik, Highmore, Carpenter, Smith, etc…
    Hey Stan, did you see Duclair’s hat trick tonight? 18 goals!!!
    Fire the Bowmans, McDo, JC, Gauthier and Kelley…. Mark Hunter GM and either Deboer or Dale Hunter coach!

  • December 14, 2019 at 10:57 pm

    Tim–Interesting on Lazerus not able to talk to Prez & Gm

    Ben Pope wrote an interesting article this week on team aboot to go back into cap hell again next summer.

    And Jimmy Greenfield wrote a solid column today aboot the situation Chicago finds themselves in.

    I read another one this week that said how Bowman was the right man for a team when pieces are set up but is the wrong man for a rebuilding team.

    Then I read an article on TheScore website asking if Chicago was this years St Louis Blues. That made me larf pretty good. Yea sorry…no.

  • December 14, 2019 at 11:18 pm

    Oh no Hull!You are now on the annoying list with me and a couple others.You dared mention the name of Anthony Duclair.You know you can’t do that.The great John Tortorella didn’t like him either.We all know how much everyone values his opinions.

  • December 14, 2019 at 11:21 pm

    During the third I’m thinking that maybe the Blackhawks surviving the storm of the first period, and probably winning the game against a team like the Blues, could be unfortunate because it would cool off some of the heat on Colliton. I got over that pretty quickly.

    Hard not to admit that besides the good stuff from top players, there were bad things too. Toews admitted he lost his checks a couple of times. Too bad because he was a beast at the dot and had two nice feeds to Saad. However, the team to a man has to play smarter and be able to keep somebody down. Didn’t happen.

    With that bitching about the players said, there’s just no evidence that Colliton has a feel for how to play guys, whether it’s who is in the lineup and who is on the ice at any given time. The breakdown in the third was certainly in part on the coaching staff, and there is not an excuse for that. The guys in the booth and the guys on the postgame pretty much called Colliton out, if not specifically by name. This whole bunch is lost.

    I’m beginning to believe the “Nylander plays because of the trade” conspiracy theory. Can’t really find any other reason to justify it. And, not just because of tonight’s game.

    Very tough game to watch as a fan, but it’s all the more evidence that Colliton can’t be the guy for this team long term. No way. Not with this mix of players, and not if they blew up the roster and went with a mythical roster of all new high draft picks. And if he’s not the guy long term then why have him behind the bench now?

    It is my nature to be optimistic about the Blackhawks. They are my team, through and through. But it is painful to think that wins are actually possibly a bad thing. Having trouble shaking this game off.

  • December 14, 2019 at 11:23 pm

    Loags said that before season started, no way same roster be back next season again, some will move on, likely at tdl now rather than off season. Can’t see things continue as is for much longer.

  • December 14, 2019 at 11:23 pm

    The question is no longer if the Hawks will lose, the question is how and by how much?
    This will continue until Bowman is fired and replaced.

  • December 14, 2019 at 11:24 pm

    Sound hockey minds think alike.I too was curious about a team that is desperate for Cap space throwing 5 million to a goalie.Look at the Stanley Cup winning goalie last year and penguins Murray won it before anyone knew who he was.

  • December 14, 2019 at 11:31 pm

    Tim interesting post on Lazarus not being able to get an interview with either Stan or McD . Figures , Stan is going to leave JC to face the interviews and face the music. So cowardly of a GM.

  • December 14, 2019 at 11:39 pm

    The Nylander giveaway was crushing because the Hawks seem to be always expecting things to go wrong and expecting to lose – I know I am – and Nylander delivered – it’s not that STL scored it’s that they were gifted a goal at the worst time – right after CHI had taken a 3-0 lead

    You knew some blunder would eventually occur to gift STL a goal – I’m just surprised it wasn’t Gus who was abused constantly in the D zone

    At least Colliton finally took some responsibility in his post game presser saying him and the coaches need to prepare the players better for these high pressure situations with the game on the line

    Gee ya think? Why do that at the start of the year when you can wait until your season is flushed down the toilet already?

    And Nylander on that 2 on 1 when he pulled up – WTF?!?! play hockey much?

  • December 14, 2019 at 11:39 pm

    Exactly, Lehner $5million was dumb especially when both goalies will be free agents next season. And we do not have one single drafted goalie prospect to step in thx to Bowman.
    And 3 years ago, when they lost in the 1st round, 19 & 88 were still not 30 years old. And Panarin and Schmaltz were rising stars. There is no reason to trade these guys or blow them out of town. why? They don’t deserve it! And well, because the Capitals, the Pens, the Bruins, even the Kings kept there Cup winners. Only Fleury was lost by the Pens but their organization had Murray and Jarry drafted as goalie prospects, drafted well and made hockey trades. We had Arizona league / ECHL goalies. Thus, if Bowman would have done his job the last then years as a hockey GM rather than being a bad accountant, the Hawks would have remained relevant.

  • December 14, 2019 at 11:48 pm

    And by the way, Santa Claus Bowman has dished out his tradfitional bonus performance clause for Dach and Strome which once again will put us back in Cap sale mode! JOKE!

  • December 14, 2019 at 11:53 pm

    Hopefully they lose to MIN tomorrow and that’s the end of the line for JC

    The coach’s job is to get the players to execute the system and strategy that he’s devised and to deploy the right players at the right time to make that system and strategy consistently effective

    I don’t see that happening now and I haven’t seen any sign of it right from when training camp started and in fact going back to last year there has been no structure, no effective implementation of system or strategy, no consistently effective deployment of players

    I don’t know if this roster could be a playoff team with a good coach but they sure as hell won’t be with Colliton

    What’s more important is that they figure out who can play for a good NHL coach and who can’t and that coach ain’t JC

  • December 15, 2019 at 12:02 am

    Jokiharju is the top shutdown defenseman on the Buffalo Sabres team. At 20 years of age. He’ll be a stalwart for over a decade. Stan Bowman felt the need to trade him for…Nylander.
    Colliton must have a woody for Euro players. He put Nylander on the top line and he did NOTHING. He’s done nothing at all. Send him to the AHL and leave him there.
    Stan Bowman, ladies and gentlemen. Highmore needs to stay up.
    I hope Sykora is ready. I think he has a mental block when he gets a shot at the NHL level.
    Colliton? He has been clueless ALL FREAKIN’ YEAR!!! 88 should be with 19 and 8. 12 should stay with 17 and 36. 20 with 77 and 95. Let’s see what happens. Lastly 64 with 22 and 15.
    Tab, is Scott Stevens available? He had a chance, a few years ago, with MN but left the team for family reasons. I think he would be a great coach for this team.

  • December 15, 2019 at 12:05 am

    I think we should be like the Charleston Chiefs on slap shot. Paul Newman was player coach. put Seabs in for the transition until new GM and coach can be hired. Lol

  • December 15, 2019 at 12:07 am

    Very good and solid post Wrap.You hit on the all the proper points.With structure,accountability,and the implementation of a system all of us will find out in a hurry who belongs on a NHL roster and who should head overseas,Ahl,retirement etc.

  • December 15, 2019 at 12:20 am

    Tim – the players have no confidence in themselves at the moment but a lot of that comes back to not having confidence in your coaching staff and especially in the HC

    I’m sure the players feel like they’re out there flailing around in the dark on their own

    The Hawks have sucked all year long in the third period where the game is usually decided – that to me is on Colliton

  • December 15, 2019 at 12:46 am

    Colliton thought Hawks were decent first period:

    Ben Pope: Colliton implied he liked the 1st period (in which the Hawks were out-attempted 25-4),

    Uhhh. What game was he watchhing?
    Colliton defended Nylander on his turnover:

    “If we benched every player who made a mistake, we wouldn’t have any players.”

    Ouch. Colliton. The team goes in the bus not under it. But hey at least you protected Nylander. That was a close one.
    Colliton says they need to prepare better:

    “With the coaches, we have to find a way to prepare these guys better so that they can execute those types of reads when the game’s on the line.”

    Hurm. So youre saying they arent prepared well enough? Well..thats good to hear.

    Tick tock tick tock

  • December 15, 2019 at 1:02 am

    I am scratching my head trying to recall when i have seen a group of forwards continually lose the battles for inside position on defensive zone possessions and faceoffs.The Blues have been running that same pick play off of faceoffs for years.How 19 loses his check at that time of the game boggles the mind.It happened on 2 of the goals and its beyond a shame because it erases all of the good that he did out there finally creating offense.I guess for all my moaning I would be remiss if I didnt mention that I thought Gilbert,Maata,and Murphy worked their asses off tonight and that 88 and 20 were a bit better.

  • December 15, 2019 at 1:35 am

    After the off-season moves I posted that the Shaw and Nylander acquisitions were very risky and would be the most consequential. Also, that deHaan had four shoulder surgeries. Results are in: total disaster.

    Partial rebuild a failure. Everyone should be on the table, except Dach. Let Dach play in
    the WJC and get valuable experience instead of keeping him with this dysfunctional club.

    If red-hot Minn blows us out it will be JC’s last game. But will Rocky continue with the root of the problem-the front office?

  • December 15, 2019 at 4:44 am

    Who will be the next coach? Not Crawford. Anybody see DeBoR at I”Hare?

  • December 15, 2019 at 4:58 am

    Looks like JC behind decision not to let Dach play in juniors. BS. Not as if he is mightily contributing to a red hot club destined for playoffs. But JC says his minutes are going up and doesn’t want to break that momentum? Huh.

  • December 15, 2019 at 7:02 am

    Boqvist not going to wjc either, maybe Keith be out a bit yet and keep his added speed on blueline until Keith is back. Today is his 10th game, makes this year his 1st year of elc.

  • December 15, 2019 at 7:49 am

    After the Loss to wild U can fire GM and coach with Xmas pink slips. The blues turned it around by doing so. Rocky needs to look to next year cuz this team unwatchable! Hossa for Coach. Eddy O GM. Now u actually have people in place that know the game and talent. Enough of the Rowan & Martin. Joke behind the bench and office

  • December 15, 2019 at 8:05 am

    I guess when we live in a world where Trump can become president Hossa can come in and save the day-lol It must be that easy.

  • December 15, 2019 at 8:18 am

    Haan being out for 5 mths could be the difference (only way really) between a top 2 pick and picking between 8-16th.

    Played decent/good against BOS and STL here, up 3-0 and cant win in regulation. Waugh even when were up like that still cant get anything easy/regulation. Do not remember right now if we blew 3-0 leads 3rd period leads in 2011, 2018 or 2019 but that should be once in 41 game kind of thing, not twice in a wk.

    If you start to route for us to lose, well win. So like the guy said the other day, Leave things as they are and we have everything going agasint us to have, a chance, a the top pick.

    Getting 3 top 5 skill draft players, is exactly what we dersevre after winning a dynasty and then being this bad/togetherness wise.

    Reset Refresh and go with 3 top 5 draft players for a strong wave like COL has. BoQ Dach Lafren.

  • December 15, 2019 at 8:20 am

    Wouldn’t Jokiharju look good in a Hawk uni? Another strong piece of trading by Sir Stan – let’s call him ‘the demolisher’.
    And Now we have a D with too few players who can actually play D.
    Great. Just great.

  • December 15, 2019 at 8:22 am

    Is it me or does Brookbank look like a clueless hack behind the bench like JC? Dumpster fire 3rd period. They should be ashamed. Send Nylander down please. Send Boquist back down too, it’s too early for him. Send JC, Blowman and McDonut packing after tonight’s loss. This is tough to watch but I keep watching, call it morbid curiosity.

  • December 15, 2019 at 8:30 am

    So, let’s blame the defensemen! Yep, Seabs is slow, Murphy gets lost at times and Gilbert is “so-so”. Look, this is on the forwards who continually turn the puck over in our zone, lose board battles and just make stupid plays. If I see “the cat” back check and just throw his stick out with one arm again, I’ll throw my shoe at the TV.

    Nylander was just a BAD move. Debrinket is too small to play on the boards. Our coach has no idea of how to “slow down” a game when things are getting out of hand. I may be wrong but I do not think he used his time out last night. Find a way to slow it down, call the ref over, make a late change, have the goalie fake a strap problem……..anything to slow down the pace for 15-30 seconds. Q was a MASTER of that!! Not this guy…….oh my god!

    I LOVED Murphy and Gilberts game last night. Body on body and take the puck. Simple. Stand up the forwards, get them to the boards and put a shoulder into them.

    If I hear Colliton say “we’ve got to be better” one more time………….oh my god please help us. Like everyone else, I am frustrated and pissed off. This team is better than the way it plays. Somewhere there is a GM and coach chomping at the bit to come in here and “right the ship”.

    Dear Santa……..please bring us Pete Deboar and a GM that actually played the game and can identify talent. Thank you, the loyal Blackhawk fans!

  • December 15, 2019 at 8:35 am

    They should’ve never gotten rid of Q .

  • December 15, 2019 at 8:48 am

    Reg agree watching the backchecking is very frustrating. Also ditto on Murphy and Gilbert, potentially grow into very good shutdown pair who bring some needed physical play to fill that void.
    If Highmore and Gilbert are examples of whats in Rfd., find another one or 2 ready enough to bring up. Skill level may not be as high but now is the time to give them a chance.

  • December 15, 2019 at 8:52 am

    Mo was watching different discussions on the draft and concensus seems to be it’s a deep draft with some potential franchise changers in first 2 or 3 picks.

  • December 15, 2019 at 9:19 am

    Reg, I have put my fist into the led screen and I won, since then the remote has gone through the wall, twice. The wall is easier and cheaper to replace. I actually left the last remote hole in the wall as a reminder, for when I get pissed at refs or results of games or stuff like your talking about.

    Have to release somehow. Thank god directv replaces remotes for free, every 6mths.

  • December 15, 2019 at 9:25 am

    Thats exactlty what we need. Were bad and I tihnk know were way better then record/I know people can think what they want thats fine. reguardless of that, we need refresh. Get one of those kind of players in draft and were talking about 3 core players right there, last 3 drafts. BoQ is good and not a busted nut, then we need him to be good.

    If things even out, then we will get a Buckaroo back for a Nylander (not those guys specifically). Anyways.

    We really need and deserve, after doing what it takes to win a dynasty and thats drafting 31st every yr, 5 in 7 yrs? Were lucky to have as many good prospects as we have.

  • December 15, 2019 at 9:25 am

    I just have not seen this elite skating ability from Boqvist.Since his 1st game up he has regressed offensively.I know he is very young but those special off the chart skills should be evident.I think because he has been beaten so many times that he is tentative and afraid to make rushes up the ice.

  • December 15, 2019 at 9:30 am

    Yea hopfully its a ‘getting used to’ period for BoQ because we need him to be a elite OFF Defensemen and be a #2 or #3. Cant afford him to only be a 4. Mitchell and Beau can be 4s or 5s for that matter.

    I like the Murf and Gilbert show. Thats the kind of stuff we want to see with the young wavers. The (new) refresh crew (gm and crew good system coaches the whole enchalaata) might be more like the way these guys play.

  • December 15, 2019 at 9:33 am

    Interesting how it was Dals and Murf that settled down the team, Defensivley, last yr when they were ready healthy. Now we get a good D guy, Haan, and then that happens which could be the key reason we get the top pick or 2nd pick.

    Same thing here again with Murf, when hes with another big D dude, look at the style.

    The Murf and Gilbert show.

  • December 15, 2019 at 9:44 am

    Without Haan, now we have a chance at top 5 pick.

    We reset now or before deadline or before 82 games, we might win too much. Might be better to stay things as they are.

    Be good for new, refresh, crew to decide what players to keep and trade. Wonder what style we do going forward for the coming yrs with the young wavers.

    I vote for the Murf and Gilbert show style of play.

  • December 15, 2019 at 9:48 am

    Yeah need patience most defenseman take longer getting accustomed period. Like Lehner mentioned it takes time for young players to get a feel for the game and learn what they can and can’t do at this level. Boqvist has put himself in a position where is getting caught flat footed or cheating wrong direction and opposing team in full stride heading away, any speed advantage is lost in those situations. With coaching he’ll figure that part out and then get a better look at what he can really bring.

  • December 15, 2019 at 9:48 am

    Who do we have to build around ? Kane, Dach, Boqvist, DeBrincat, Strome?

    Craig, lets forget about 17 for rught now.

    three top 5 draft players Boq Dach Lefren or 2nd pick are the young wavers and 12 and 88 are part of core.

    Yea lets get more 1sts and 2nds so we can have more young wavers to that group. Only going to have so many top 5 draft players, need to get some 15th-60th kind of players in there to. As may as we can get.

  • December 15, 2019 at 10:02 am

    Loags, Bob and Doug like electric shock treatment.

  • December 15, 2019 at 10:22 am

    As fans, maybe we should focus on what we can do. The play this guy with that guy and that other guy things gets old. A few suggestions:

    – not buy tickets or concessions
    – not buy merchandise
    – wear paper bags to games
    – boo more
    – turn our backs on Stan while he sits there in his silly little box
    – throw sacks on the ice (I just made that one up)

    I’m sure there are other/better ideas. Bring ’em on.

  • December 15, 2019 at 11:36 am

    Jordyhawk, I don’t know if the sellout streak is in danger (with so so SO many tickets already purchased by pseudo season ticket holders for the aftermarket), but financial regression is one thing that might make McDonough and Rocky rethink this whole mess.

    It’s a weird timing for things ….. Blackhawks are playing glaringly bad hockey, the fans are in an outrage,

    …. and the annual Season Ticket Holder Party is tomorrow night! All of the players etc. are supposed to be there. I don’t think the front brass is going to make a move with Colliton anyway, but I sure don’t think it would be the day of the Season Ticket Holder party.

    ….. sigh.

  • December 15, 2019 at 12:01 pm

    You have to wonder if JC is having the same negative effect on Boqvist as he did on Joki – seems that there’s a pattern there

    Another pattern is the for the Hawks to play tentative and thus slow in the third with the lead – that’s partly human nature to do that but a good coach could keep his team playing on their toes and be able to close out a 3-0 third period lead

  • December 15, 2019 at 12:19 pm

    Jordy,first year for me not going to a game by now.I usually go to about 12 a year.Talked to at least 4 different people who related that they have full and partial plans that they will not be renewing.After the holidays I think you will start to see lots of empty seats.

  • December 15, 2019 at 12:46 pm

    Coach Colliton-Trestman at presser:

    “We’ve been having awesome practices”…

  • December 15, 2019 at 1:21 pm

    Yea prob still have the, sellout streak going for yrs, but empty seats could tell show. Poeple have been on a waiting list since 2009, so now they can get there tickets. Hey.

    Were going to be a top 5 team again, so those people are playing there dues now to have season tickets for those yrs coming up.

    They are going to have to wait for the young wave to start prime yrs though.

    At least the people arnt throwing garbage on the ice, like BOS people did after we beat them. CHI still out classes BOS there.

  • December 15, 2019 at 1:22 pm

    Reminds me of those good days, when VAN burned things in there city. Now thats the kind of funny thing I want to laugh about.

  • December 15, 2019 at 2:19 pm

    @BigIndian: as Tim suggests renewal time is likely when Rockwell starts to feel the pinch.

    @Tim: I remember Seabrook saying that when he first arrived he had business cards that on the back had like coupons with discounts or 2-fers or something like that. It wasn’t that long ago and once you lose the fans it’s hard to get them back.

  • December 15, 2019 at 4:43 pm

    Sounds like New Jersey is about to get a boatload from Arizona or Florida for Taylor Hall.1st round pick,Nhl level defenseman,goalie prospect,and 3 high level prospects.Sure hope his contract extension is guaranteed because that is a hell of an expensive half season rental.

  • December 15, 2019 at 4:46 pm

    Wonder if they would take Nylander.Gus.and Sikura with a bag of pucks and a shipment of McDonough bobbleheads to be shipped later.

  • December 15, 2019 at 4:47 pm

    Whatever we do and who ever does it.

    I want, no shortcuts.

  • December 15, 2019 at 5:43 pm

    Reading about that Tim, Bob Mackenzie saying Coyotes wouldn’t include Hayton or Soderstrom their no.1 pock this year in the deal. See if he is right.

    Mo you are right on there about draft picks. Right now they don’t have a 2nd round pick next summer, nice to be able to get a back half of the 1st round pick and one 2nd rounder at least before the draft. Our buddy Craig Buttons was saying if your going to go all in on a draft, this is the year to do it with talent available in the first couple of rounds.

  • December 15, 2019 at 6:00 pm

    Apparently Hall will not negotiate a contract extension right away with his new team once he is traded. Strictly rental player it appears

  • December 15, 2019 at 6:06 pm

    No doubt his signing an extension has a big impact on what Devils get back from Coyotes, too.

  • December 16, 2019 at 10:57 am

    I do not know what we used are 2nd round pick for, but that looks bad now. Being a 30-35th pick. We can get 2nds picks easily, we have several players that should get us 2nds. Lehner might be a 1st, Crow should be a 1st or 30-35th kind but only playoff teams are going for the goalies, unless its a Mcdoungh kind of move. So more like 15-30th & 45-60th picks for the goalies

    People will say higher or lower for each guy we could trade, need to remember Hartman got a 1st and Kurachev. Monster trade for us. Makes not having our 2nd this draft a bit even I guess.

  • December 16, 2019 at 12:26 pm

    Maybe everything that happened this yr, happened for a reason. Being the deepest draft in 10 yrs?

    Load up.

  • December 16, 2019 at 12:31 pm

    Hate to trade everybody we can, other then 19 88 2 and 12 77 27. Keep 5 and Gilb.

  • December 16, 2019 at 12:33 pm

    Does MON have good picks. Crow might go to his home area. Which is half an hr from where I am.

  • December 16, 2019 at 1:10 pm

    re: Morrison & Montreal – The Habs have a shitload of picks. They’re also paying ONE goaltender – Price – $10.5M this year. not happening.

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