Blackhawks Blow Another Lead, Fall Flat In Florida

The Blackhawks looked to break even on the east side of Florida on Monday night. Kevin Lankinen was back between the pipes but one change was made by coach Jeremy Colliton: David Kampf got to ride shotgun with Patrick Kane and Alex DeBrincat.

That change paid off in the first period.

Anthony Duclair tried to wander his way through traffic in his defensive zone and Kampf picked his pocket. The puck found Kane who put a wobbling shot through Sergei Bobrovsky to give the Blackhawks a 1-0 lead at 10:38 into the first.

About 90 seconds later the Panthers did the Hawks a favor. Nikita Zadorov was caught tripping Noel Acciari and was going to the box. But during the delayed call, the Panthers had too many men on the ice and earned an offsetting penalty. Neither side scored during the 4-on-4.

Chicago got a second power play of the period later in the frame but it came up empty. Three seconds after Frank Vatrano left the box, Duncan Keith was whistled for tripping Alexsander Barkov. That penalty hurt, but not in a conventional way. An Owen Tippett ricocheted off both Connor Murphy and Calvin de Haan and into the net behind Lankinen (who had no chance). The fluke goal tied the game with 1:45 left in the period.

The Panthers out-shot the Hawks 13-8 in the first and Lankinen was good against the shots that didn’t hit multiple teammates on its way to the net. Chicago was credited with zero shots on net during their two power play opportunities.

The second period was a marvelous microcosm of the last couple weeks for the Blackhawks.

Just as the Pat Foley and Eddie Olczyk were discussing the Blackhawks having 10 shots on goal in 30 minutes of hockey, they scored (of course). Philipp Kurashev got back on the board and gave the Hawks a 2-1 lead.

Less than two minutes later, Brandon Hagel did what he’s been doing since he entered the lineup. He out-worked his opponent, made a play and it paid off with a goal.

The Blackhawks now had a two-goal lead on the road against a very good Panthers team. Leads haven’t treated the Blackhawks very well lately. Chicago went up 3-0 on Tampa at home last weekend and gave up the next six goals.

So how would the Hawks handle this cushion?

In short: they wouldn’t.

Alex DeBrincat went to the box 60 seconds after the Hagel goal and the Panthers made the Blackhawks pay again. Aaron Ekblad scored the power play goal to bring the Panthers within one.

Ok. The Panthers scored, but the Hawks still had a one-goal lead. They just needed to settle down and…

Gustav Forsling scored 62 seconds after the Ekblad goal to tie the game. Chicago’s two-goal lead evaporated in less than three minutes.

To make matters worse, Murphy went to the box right off the faceoff following the Forsling goal. The Blackhawks then needed to kill a penalty while on their heels having blown a lead quickly. Jeremy Colliton was on the bench like:

The Hawks survived the Murphy penalty but when the dust settled at the close of the second period, the score was tied at three. Florida had a 23-16 shot advantage. And they had held Kane to one shot on net in 12 minutes of ice time through two periods. Chicago’s hit leader through two periods with three: DeBrincat. Because of course.

To their credit, the Blackhawks were able to withstand an early press from the Panthers to open the third period. Lankinen was on point and the Hawks stayed out of the box.

With 9:31 in regulation after a few good shifts in a row from the Blackhawks’ bottom six, the Panthers went to the box to give Chicago a third power play. Radko Gudas took a seat after a couple questionable hits and the Hawks took a desperately needed advantage.

Of course the first shot on net during the Hawks’ power play came off a Florida stick. The start of the power play was ugly to begin because the predictable Blackhawks power play was being played as such by a well-coached Florida team.

The “advantage” continued to look miserable and the Panthers finally made the Blackhawks pay for an awful effort. Barkov scored a short-handed goal 6:34 left in the third to give Florida a 4-3 lead.

The Hawks finished their power play with more time in the offensive zone at least, so maybe a moral victory? They were playing more on Florida’s end of the ice after the Barkov goal but not many shots were making it through to the net. Florida was working to blocks shots and clear the zone, and it was working.

Chicago pulled the goaltender with about 2:30 left in the third period, hoping an extra attacker would help (because they had so much success on the power play to that point).

The Hawks won a faceoff and… of course the Panthers scored. Carter Verhaeghe won a race with Kane to the puck and slipped it home with 1:44 left in the third to give Florida a two-goal lead. The only Chicago skater making any effort to get back on the play was Kane.

Alex Wennberg scored into the empty net 48 seconds later to make the score 6-3 in favor of the Panthers.

So after going up 3-1, Chicago gave up the next five goals (albeit two of them were into an empty net).

Lankinen made 30 saves against 34 shots. The Hawks in front of Lankinen blocked another nine attempts. Chicago was credited with 29 shots on goal, 13 of which came in the third period.

Florida won 62 percent of the faceoffs in the game. Pius Suter won six of 18.

102 thoughts on “Blackhawks Blow Another Lead, Fall Flat In Florida

  • March 15, 2021 at 8:48 pm
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    Aside from Hagel they were largely out worked and out skated. Can’t hold a multiple goal lead for maybe the 8th or 9th time this season.
    Thought they were okay early but have to skate and stay out of the box.
    Captain Obvious over and out.

  • March 15, 2021 at 8:51 pm
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    That Barkov is one solid player! Both games he was great.

  • March 15, 2021 at 8:58 pm
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    Florida basically kicked sand in the Hawks face and stole their girlfriend. Big strong men against 98 pound weaklings. Florida players just simply power through Hawks players and the Hawks players can’t do anything about it. Just bigger and stronger and it mattered. The reason Florida won most of the 50/50 pucks isn’t because the Hawks aren’t playing hard – it’s because they lose the physical one on one battles … hell, the Hawks lose many of the two on one battles and even a couple three on one battles. Barkov could just skate around and play keep away from the Hawks by himself – no one could handle him.

    I’ll probably find some optimism to hang my hat on somewhere after a little dispassionate reflection but at this moment I’m looking at the schedule and with the next 4 games against TB and then Florida again … I’m going to predict they’ll be lucky to pick up one point in these next 4 games. Then Nashville who has been playing better, then Carolina, then Nashville again, then Dallas. And on and on. I have a sinking feeling there will be a lot more losses in the 2nd half of the season … but I have to keep reminding myself the win/loss record is not important.

  • March 15, 2021 at 9:04 pm
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    OK … I probably shouldn’t because I ragged on Keith in the last thread but even Eddie had to call out Keith for his STUPID penalty that Florida scored on which turned the momentum. Was that knee on knee retaliation for the knee on knee on Kane the first game. If it was, it sure backfired.

  • March 15, 2021 at 9:14 pm
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    Florida is good, so hats off to them. Agree that they pushed the Hawks around.
    Another loss and Lankinen is starting to be exposed-partly because of the Hawks poor defensive play and partly because he leaves the top open a lot-the first goal was a fluke–off 2 Hawk D.
    (The D is a mess)

    Florida is really good at holding Hawks up on the forecheck-it is interference that’s hard to call, and they do it so well.(and all the time)

    Hawks are looking like they are a middle of the road team and won’t beat better teams in the playoffs-if they make it.
    ***
    Talent and energy wins-the energy is waning and the talent is too thin. The power play has gone from really good to awful.

  • March 15, 2021 at 9:38 pm
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    I thought overall a better effort than last game, them having a guy like Barkov made a big difference. Still played hard enough to be 3-3 past midway point of 3rd. Allowing 2 goals in a minute in 2nd, 2pp goals, 2 en goals was too much. Even being out gunned by full Panthers roster, were still not far from stealing one. A hot pp and couple of bad goals against away, was all it woulda taken.

  • March 15, 2021 at 9:57 pm
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    This Hawk team has become very predictable in all parts of the game. And the opposition has figured it out. The absolute most undisciplined team, I don’t know if it’s lazy play or lack of desire, or lack of talent. They’re quickly turning into the team we thought they would be before the season started.

  • March 15, 2021 at 9:59 pm
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    I don’t know what the refs use to determine interference penalties from no penalty but if Zadorov’s interference penalty was called correctly, then Boqvist got away with one and Florida got away with many more. I think the penalty on Zadorov was called correctly but then it needs to be called both ways. As Noonan said, Florida is very good at skirting the rules and getting away with it. This is part of the learning curve for the young players – they need to learn how to fight through the holding/interference to the point where the refs can’t not call it. Getting stronger will help with that.

  • March 15, 2021 at 10:12 pm
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    Noonan – well said. It was frustrating when Murphy got called for interference on a play that Florida was making all night. I thought there were several poor calls including the penalty on Dcat. The calls made no difference in the outcome as we just don’t have the horses to compete for 60 minutes against a bigger, better team. Our guys were being knocked off their feet all night.

    It is amazing that we still have one of the top power plays with the constant challenges of getting into the zone. Every team knows we have basically one play and they just move the pressure up the ice.

  • March 15, 2021 at 10:13 pm
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    A byproduct of the Hawks losing one on one battles is that it speeds up the game in the Hawks mind so rush making the play which often results in a poorly executed play. They know they have to make a play before the forechecker is on top of them so they rush and make a poor pass or a weak clearing attempt or else they know they need to slow the game down so they allow themselves to get tied up and the teammates try to come to the rescue and chaotic play ensues. On the other end of the ice Florida staples the Hawks player to the wall and that’s the end of the play. There were very few times a Florida player got stapled to the wall – many of the times the Florida player powered through it leaving the Hawks player in hiw wake and out of position and chaotic play ensued.

  • March 15, 2021 at 10:19 pm
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    oops – I meant Murphy’s interference call in the earlier post – not Zadorov.

  • March 15, 2021 at 10:20 pm
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    Definitely the Hawks don’t have the size talent or experience to beat FLA at their best yet that game was there for them with a couple of PPs late in the third but what a shit show they were

    Time to get Kubalik on PP1 if just for a different look right now only 3 guys handle the puck – 12 88 and 27 – Kub can handle the puck so that would help – they need another option another puck handler to gain the zone – put 8 in for 22 and deal with the handedness issue

    How many games are the Hawks going to win when they can’t score on the PP or stop the opposition on their PPs? probably none
    Gotta fix the special teams

    Hagel was the best forward tonight

    5 on 5 the Hawks were a bit improved from Saturday but only a bit

    Still like to see Beaudin back in

    Absolutely no fault of Lankinen’s – he gave his team a chance to win until they embarrassed themselves on the late PPs

  • March 15, 2021 at 10:23 pm
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    This was definitely a special teams loss..our pp still looks ineffective entering the zone and our pk isn’t consistent enough to keep the opposition off the boards..thought the team played pretty well 5v5, but this team doesn’t have the firepower to compete 5v5 most nights, they need a strong pp to win games..

    One more note, obviously Florida is in our division this year, but traditionally they’re in the Eastern Conference, and you can tell because they have built their team in such a way as to withstand the physical style of play from teams like Boston, Washington, etc..this Hawks team has zero answer for a team that plays with an edge..which means teams will continue to push us around and walk the line between clean and dirty when playing us because we don’t make them think twice..this will be an unpopular opinion, but as soon as the shorthanded goal was scored against us, Zadorov or Murphy should have immediately fought Barkov..now technically, Barkov did nothing wrong,all he did was take advantage of a team that isn’t equipped to stop him..but even so, even with Toews and Dach out, as a hockey team, you have to remind him that there are consequences to having two good games in a row against us..maybe some of the ice would have opened up if we put him into the boards a few times earlier during the game..but since we didn’t, one of Zadorov or Murphy should have immediately beat the s–t out of him after the shorthanded goal..you can’t be afraid to take a fighting major, you have to stand up for your team..this is the one time this year where I wished we had a veteran coach..right or wrong, hockey is a physical sport..you can’t be afraid to send a message if a player is walking all over you..unfortunately, Colliton hasn’t learned how to change the momentum of a game and for some reason, the players didn’t take the initiative themselves..PS-Since I thought Zadorov was brought in to do exactly that but hasn’t all year, I would have zero problem with moving on from him..give him his qualifying offer and let him play out next year, then trade him at next year’s trade deadline..if you’re going to not fight at all, and you’re not going to even finish your checks along the boards, and we’re going to lose games like this because we don’t have the heart to fight back and provide some momentum for ourselves, then I’d rather lose with the young kids, rather than pay a paper tiger $4 mil a year..and all of the above goes for Murphy too..one match penalty and now he doesn’t want to even finish his checks..weaklings, both of them..

  • March 15, 2021 at 10:34 pm
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    Slayer – get off the ledge man!
    I respect your opinion here but have to strongly disagree with calling out Z or Murph for not going after Barkov for a fight

    It not the 70s anymore – I don’t think I’ve seen in recent years a team pick a fight with the opponents best player just because he outplayed you – you can’t win that way

    Agreed staple him to the boards if you get a chance but you also can’t run around looking for hits on Barkov he’ll make you pay

    I didn’t see much to criticize in either 5 or 16 tonight – neither one is on the PP and as far as I could tell they did their job defensively and even on the PK – we need more size not less which is what would happen if we traded them

  • March 15, 2021 at 10:54 pm
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    Hawks are outgunned for now. Maybe Dach and dare say Toews for later this season?
    We need some goalie prospects too, Lank is small, and plays smaller. Lucky if Hawks finish above .900 goaltending this season. We need some 6″2″ -6’5″ guys in net eventually so some pucks just hit them. Those “hit them pucks” fly past Lanks shoulders.

  • March 15, 2021 at 11:00 pm
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    Boquist is really establishing a role for himself – looked good again tonight 5 on 5 although the PP entry needs work

    I don’t think we’ll be hearing that old tune ‘Send Him To Rockford’ from the Greek Chorus at least until he has one bad game

    Mitchell on the other hand…

  • March 15, 2021 at 11:32 pm
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    Hawks had a good game but when you go to penalty box and get goals against you then the wind can change and that’s what Happened .
    Another good learning experience and many nice move from the kids .
    Florida is a good team with experience players so it’s not like we where beaten by a bad team , still proud of the kids
    Stay out from penalty box
    25% of the team tonight where Rookies…
    love my young Hawks
    Hagel is doing exactly the same as last year…start slow then pieces of his puzzle fall by itself at the good place and he emerge slowly …in Rockford last year he had a slow start but look the way he finish the year.
    Would not be surprise at all that he finish ahead of Suter and Kurachev in pts
    Sign him …sooner he is signed less he will cost and it will give him wings to know that they Organization wants him for a long period…like when they sign him when he was in Junior in 18 ….after TheY sign Him his production went up and finish the year with 41 goals 102 pts + 42 and 80 minutes in penalties.
    4-5 years contract ….NOW please .

  • March 15, 2021 at 11:42 pm
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    Neither Murphy or Zadorov are fighters – they’re just big and do an adequate job of hitting – just not with their fists. The guy with the biggest sack for mixing it up is the smallest guy on the Hawks who wears #12. Hagel has shown a little spunk as well but that’s about it from the regulars. Johnson has the Neanderthal gene too but he isn’t regularly in the lineup. There are guys who would drop them if they had to but no one on the Hawks will pick a fight – just not in their DNA.

  • March 15, 2021 at 11:44 pm
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    Wrap….
    Agree on Boqvist. And on Mitchell….
    Rockford would be good for Mitchell…..like when Boqvist went to Rockford for 15 games …Keith played 154 games in Ahl before getting in the NHL
    Seabrook played 3 games In Ahl ..
    Bring back Beaudin

  • March 16, 2021 at 12:36 am
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    Another easy skate for the Panthers.No pushback physically or mentally from both the young and older Hawks.The Panthers again physically handled the Hawks after giving up a couple of goals and took the game over pushing the Hawks around and keeping their top line to the outside.This team of course got horsed once again in the faceoff circle and had no edge to their collective games.Dumb penalties by veteran D men and a very predictable powerplay sealed their known fate.Yes,teams do watch video and will shutdown your entries into the offensive zone on powerplays.Its best to have a plan b and c after the push em back entry.Watched the Calgary-Edmonton game directly after and man what a difference in intensity and skating.This team has a long way to go.Enough of the feel good stories and get to work.

  • March 16, 2021 at 3:06 am
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    hawks regressing to the mean. expected and should not matter to the fans and they shouldn’t be angry. knowledgeable fans long ago wrote off this season and next in terms of win/loss success. that is an issue for management, coaches, and players. player development is what i want to see. competition for the 22-23 roster.

    the cinderella story is falling apart team wise. it is apparent that bowman needs to find some players who are built like men and play physically like men. 5 & 16 are only d-men…. not enforcers. bowman has to acquire some size and physicality for this team and i don’t care who has to be traded for that to happen. the rebuild has had a nice start this season, but this team is along ways from a cup contending team. they are being manhandled in the regular season. imagine what happens in the playoffs when the big boys play more physical, the ice shrinks, and the refs swallow their whistles.

    who is going to protect de brincat, kane, boquist, beaudin, suter, kurashev, hagel, dach in 22-23? bowman better be taking notice.

  • March 16, 2021 at 4:25 am
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    This Hawks team needs to be sellers at the deadline ! Keep with the rebuild .
    There is a need to draft some big western D men .
    Lankinen is good but not that good ,our goalie position is still a weak .

    Keep on building .

  • March 16, 2021 at 6:48 am
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    JC getting pistol whip from Q…love it

    PP just standing cones with bad shot selection.
    Asst coaches on this team is a joke.

  • March 16, 2021 at 6:52 am
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    Blackhawks actually outhit Florida in the game 20 to 16. Zadorov with a couple in 3rd to get 3 and his 1st multi hit game since win in in Tampa i think. Losing 50/50 puck battles hurt them very noticeably, but with Dach and Toews out that’s 2 of their best not available and even say 3 with Shaw. Florida being a.very fast team, i thought Mitchell and Boqvist did fine not getting victimized by their forwards speed and using theirs to keep them on outside not getting beat to the net, obviously as they develop physically and skill wise, winning puck battles has to improve.

    Florida generates speed on pp entries and winning puck battles down low. Blackhawks on other hand weren’t generating any speed on pp entries a or winning puck down low this series.

  • March 16, 2021 at 7:17 am
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    I won’t be doing my ratings because I did not watch the entire game. But, what I did see was a lack of poise on many Blackhawk players and them playing on the heels of their skates! You just knew they were going to lose! Lankinen was shaky, Keith was out of position, and the forwards were going through the motions defensively! This would be a great opportunity to play some guys that have patiently waited on the Taxi Squad to get a real opportunity. I think it would send a strong message to sit Keith, Zadorov,and deHaan and play Kalynuk, Beaudin, and Carlsson. Also, play Reese Johnson and Brandon Pirri. Let’s see what kind of energy a new mix can generate. This group is now stale and needs an infusion of “want-to”!

  • March 16, 2021 at 7:43 am
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    The Hawks are victims in a sense of their own early season success and that’s a good thing

    Teams like TB and FLA and DAL no longer take the Hawks for granted and the Hawks have forced them to play harder against them with I think the expectant results on the scoreboard

    The silver lining is that this development is very good for the Hawks young players – teams like FLA have to dig in vs the Hawks or they’ll lose – even with that the Hawks could have stole that game last night with a better PP

    The result development wise is that we all get to see how the young guys can perform under the increased pressure – that pressure is now here to stay as we get into the back half of the season

    As the games ramp up in intensity from among the young guys Hagel, Boquist, Kampf, Kubalik and DCat seem to be upping their game – that could change although I think all 5 will continue to show well and improve

    However there are others who need to step it up like Kurashev, Suter, Mitchell, Highmore, Beaudin (once he gets in) even Lankinen and of course Strome (again once he’s back) – we’ll find out a lot more about all of these players now that the Hawks are in the playoff race

    If you had been told at the start of the year that this team of young players would be in a playoff spot 30 games into the season we’d all have taken that

    It’s time to regroup fix the special teams stay confident and keep putting in the effort (which they do pretty consistently) and look to the future – if the future includes this year’s playoffs that’s great if not then that’s ok too as long the effort and development continue – the real future is at least a couple of years away

  • March 16, 2021 at 7:49 am
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    Having the wonderful opportunity in retirement to watch lots of NHL games nightly.I have seen every team play now and by far the Hawks are in the top 3 softest and smallest teams in the league.I know their top centers are out for the year,and probably longer,but it is really shocking watching the pace and flow of other games directly after a Hawks game.The Little Train that could mentality gets you exposed real quick in todays NHL.Along with more physicality and size I believe that this team could use a shakeup with the assistant coaches.Send Brookbank and Tomas to Rockford and get some real assistants on that bench who could get into Colliton,s ear and get the in game message across to the players quickly and efficiently.Last nights Ritchie fight in the Calgary game was a good one if you want to see how physicality affects a game.The Oilers curled up in a ball for 2 periods.

  • March 16, 2021 at 7:50 am
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    If we’re truly in a rebuild year then why are guys like Walmark playing and the future sitting on the sidelines? The boy wonder Coach might want to show a little fire and emotion occasionally on the bench also. The team is starting to mimic their coach, very passive. I agree sit Kieth every few games to keep him in tune and play the kids.

  • March 16, 2021 at 7:54 am
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    Some really good insights and not over reacting-this team is better but still has a way to go-Dach will help, 19 would be a blessing. But they need to get better.

    And NO Boqvist doesn’t suck. A ‘lay’ person saying any NHLer sucks is funny and sad at the same time. He is still making certain mistakes but his overall play in better-all you can ask of a 20 year old. When I say that -20- I chuckle.

  • March 16, 2021 at 8:27 am
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    Tab

    I would love to hear your assessment on Boquist. I just don’t see it. He is not there just yet. If he doesn’t get a point a game I don’t know how he can make up for his defense.
    Can he skate backwards? Not so sure!?!

  • March 16, 2021 at 8:50 am
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    I am not a Boqvist fan. But, I do not think his skating is bad. In fact, it may be his biggest asset. He certainly seems to think so in the way he pinches in and stabs deep into offensive plays thinking he can get back in time if the play turns around.

    And therein lies the issue with Boqvist, right now he is a double edged sword. To be of any value he must be an offensive contributor. Getting caught up ice and/or making the wrong decision renders him a liability.

    There was a good reason why the Blackhawks assigned Brian Campbell to mentor him while still in the minors, they expect Boqvist to be an all-star like Campbell.

    He seems to be earnest in his desire to learn and be better. Time will tell.

  • March 16, 2021 at 8:59 am
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    Gentlemen,
    Many outstanding posts that reflect the passion of hawk fans who are very knowledgeable. Very difficult not to reaCT on a game by game basis. I, like most of you, spend some time yelling at the the TV for questionable plays or strategies and cheering good plays. Long view is still the mission. Rather than individual plays, what are the trends?
    * JC still needs work at in game adjustments ( PP & PK)
    * As some have said, asst coaches don’t appear to be adding a lot of value.
    * Young d men are improving. Maintenance days / games should occur but aren’t for the vets.
    * If some of the young guys are hitting a wall, swap them out for others on the taxi squad for a game or 2.
    * How the youngsters adapt / react to the physical play will help determine who should be around in the next couple of years
    * As was done with 51 and 27, time to give suter, kurashev, and hagel a game or 2 off to recalibrate.
    * Maybe time to give the larger forwards in Rockford a shot.

  • March 16, 2021 at 9:09 am
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    For anybody looking at rest of schedule, Blue Jackets 4 pts back both have 26 games left. They have 2 left against each other, Blackhawks play top 3 teams 12 times and bottom 3 12 times. Blue Jackets play top 3 teams 15 times and bottom 3 teams 9 times, would favor Blackhawks. Darkhorse is Stars get it together and go on a run from now until end of season.

    Boqvist has 2g and 11 a in 19 games, on pace for 8g 55pts over 82 game schedule, so he is contributing offensively by any defensemans standards and a few years of growing ahead yet.

  • March 16, 2021 at 9:20 am
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    So it is post game 30.

    That small portion of crow I ate after game 20?
    I just vomited it back up.

    This team ha no depth on defense, courtesy of the Master of Reality, who trades for Enricco Ciccone Jr., does not try to add another veteran, and lets 28 get away for a wallflower in 92, thereby forcing the Junior coach to skate 27 out of place in a top pairing position, and having to dress a rookie in 51, 74, 46, etc.

    To the Jr coach:
    His defense strategy is a mess. That hybrid man-man is not working.
    How many times have you seen 51, 2, 5, 16, 44, and 27 chase a guy with the puck out towards the blueline this year?

    That guarantees one d-man is out of position once the puck goes high to low in the Hawk’s end.
    Result: Grade A chances up the wazoo.

    A good hockey man knows this….like Q, who exploited it to the tune of 10 goals in 2 games (albeit 2 were ENGs).

    Again to the Jr. coach:
    His PK has been a disaster for two plus years.
    Yet the Bowman has done nothing. No shakeups in coaching. No roster moves.
    Nothing.

    These trends, combined with goaltending allowing 31 goals in the last 7 games is going to bite the team in the rear end unless something is done.

    Young guys like the young Hawks, with the huge talent they have, can only overachieve for so long in this coaching structure, until the glass slipper falls off.
    And that can shake their confidence and maturation process as an NHJL player.

    If you are honest with your assessment of the CBH, and closely watch other NHL teams play defense, from Buffalo/Detroit on up to St. Louis/TB, you would probably come to the same conclusion.

    The fan in me cheers mightily. The hockey student in me sees glaring flaws in the Hawks system.

  • March 16, 2021 at 9:23 am
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    Saw some of the game at work and reading everything here is making me ask the same question a little old lady asked. Where’s the Beef! I’ve been always asking for size and sandpaper. Gotta have some of it on all lines or at least all shifts. Radko did what ever he wanted to do. The hit on Soderberg the previous game told him he had no worries cuz no one will do anything.

    Look at the conversation Gabriel is bring up in SJ. Wilson did one thing right. Not that we need just a goon (thou I would like that) but need above average toughness. Guys like Martin and Wilson (should keep it cleaner) do protect well and participate in the game. Reeves and Gabriel are more of the You fcuk with us we fkuc with you type. That’s why I creep on Lowry ER. We need some sandpaper. Think Sanford could be a good player with an edge. Haven’t seen our own young size play but hear Barrett Entwistle and Alby might have an edge. Slaggert sounds that type but need some at all times for a hockey team to be complete.

    Hope JT gets better. He is Captain my Captain. If he can’t return let Kane/Keith wear the C while Dach is filling out. Should be no more than 3-4 years then we should have our Lindros 2.0.

  • March 16, 2021 at 10:05 am
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    Tim W just saw the Ritchie Khaira fight. Like both players for size. Now leaning towards Ritchie. Ritchie UFA Khaira RFA. Not losing a pick you offer 1.4 not to lose a pick to Khaira or 2mil to Ritchie, I’ll go up to 2.5 for him.

  • March 16, 2021 at 10:13 am
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    So they can’t compete with the top divisional talent yet….that’s ok!! They’re just not there yet but we already knew that going into this season. Let the kids play and they will learn. Feel like JC got outcoached in this series, more than the TB series. Still miss Q and that ‘stache!

  • March 16, 2021 at 10:15 am
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    To rebuild a team you need time ..Stan decide to make a rebuilding 6 months ago … 6…so to do a good job and get all the pieces you need for the future you need « « TIME « ))
    Stan knows we need more big quality players …he knows but he also know that they are hard to find . It’s the beginnings of a 3-4 years rebuilding.
    Off course everybody want the job done yesterday or today but that’s not how you rebuild a team . I am glad to see the result so far and not expecting to win a cup tomorrow ,what I see so far is really good , kids having fun playing hockey ,kids growing to become NHL players , kids learning how to deal with strong mature players, kids getting better every shift . The coaches knows they need to be patient because they are Dealing with a young Group .
    It’s a long term process and there is no rush , so far I am really happy with the team and the next 24 months will be the best for the franchise.
    The Hawks are in a really good position with the salary cap so let see how they will make their move to get extra pick in the next Drafts.
    Patience
    Patience
    Patience.

  • March 16, 2021 at 10:24 am
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    Not that stats will change anyone’s mind about Boquist but a look at last night’s Corsi (available on Natural Stat Trick) at 5 on 5 (so not including PP) shows that both the Keith Murphy pair and the Boquist DeHaan pair were above 50% Corsi with DeHaan leading the way and Boquist 3rd highest

    The Zadorov Mitchell was absolutely abused in Corsi which fits with the eye test

    Z was at 32% but he was dragged down by Mitchell who was at 10%

    Corsi isn’t everything I get it but it does give good indication of which zone you’re spending your shifts in and how effective you are limiting opponents shots

    I follow these stats after every game and Boquist is usually on the plus side of 50% even at 5 on 5 – in other words he’s doing his job plus he adds to the offence as his point totals attest to

    Again I’m in favour of bringing Beaudin in for Mitchell even if he has to play his offside

  • March 16, 2021 at 10:47 am
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    Kampf–
    Thought he actually showed well- that he could step in with 88/12 — and play contribute.
    Not that he would be best option– but certainly capable if needed – which gives Hawks more options to pursue or dump – say a Strome. kampf can cover defensively and win more FO’s for that line and Pursue the Puck.

  • March 16, 2021 at 10:47 am
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    Very few can spell his name. Let’s make it easy. BUSTvist.

  • March 16, 2021 at 10:48 am
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    Florida sort of rope a doping the Hawks. They could score and play keep away when they wanted if they wanted. Hawks tenacity, hard work and commitment is NO SUBSTITUTE for SIZE. Add a dash of speed to the size and Florida reveals what the Hawks have been missing for a few seasons now. Don’t confuse quickness with speed. I counted 7 times a hawks player lined up a Panther in prefect body position and just bounded off. Literally bounced off. Size does matter and our bigger players Dach, Kubalik, Kamph, Strome and even Toews don’t play physical enough or big enough or finish off their checks. Dach surprised me last year, got stronger and on occasion lowered the hammer in the corners. Sort of like a young Sid the Kid . . His psychical play visually improved. Every line needs a big body who is a grinder and good skater a la dirty worker, net front dominate . .. A la Söderberg!

    This Hawks team does the dirty work by committee and for players under 6 foot the psychical punishment to play outside and above your body type does takes a toll. Ask Shaw. . . at 5-11.

    Anyway no new news, Hawks can play with 75% of the NHL until they get to the premier teams with size and speed.

    De Hann looked like he had something to prove last night, made some very smart decision on the ice. Solid game.

  • March 16, 2021 at 10:49 am
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    @perimeter.

    Well said. But they are also doing the same thing in the O zone. Both D men pinch in leaving the points unattended and since nobody likes to be in the middle of the ice they have no choice but to do the all the way across the ice pass that is always blocked or deflected which leads to possession loss and the opponent going the other way with odd man rushes.

    This is what I see as the biggest problem and apologies to all you Boqvist fans. Now I like the kid but his defensive skills are atrocious yet as most seem to think if he gets points that makes up for all his defensive errors. And I would be good with that if it was just him. But his style of play is like a cancer spreading amongst the other D men. Everybody is trying to play that style of offensive defensemen and are no longer concerned about playing good defense as there are no concerns of their errors or mistakes of being out of position or leaving the points open. We just need to get a point and all is forgiven. Hell I’m seeing our defensemen behind the net in the opponents zone more than in their own.

  • March 16, 2021 at 11:29 am
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    Jimmy Vesey on waivers, big skilled winger who can grind. Any takers.

  • March 16, 2021 at 11:40 am
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    I don’t mind the Hawks losing in this rebuilding year but what I do mind is the losses give the haters license to spew their hate. On the other side of that coin – it sure was nice when the Hawks were winning, not only because it’s fun to see the boys win but also because it kind of puts a cork in the haters, at least a little bit.

  • March 16, 2021 at 11:45 am
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    Ian – go easy on skill part of that Vesey description – I don’t think Leaf fans would agree

    But big yes decent skater yes – probably be an improvement on Highmore and the Hawks were interested in signing him out of college so maybe…

    He’s also UFA after this year so even better – maybe the Hawks should take a look

    We could use some size

  • March 16, 2021 at 11:52 am
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    Wow not only does Boqvist (with a v) suck but his suckiness is the reason for the poor play by the other D-men. Sit him, send him to Rockford, but the kid is 20, what were you guys doing when you were 20? For at least 4 years the Panthers were worried they made a huge mistake and his last name was actually Ek’bad’.
    And he 2was the first overall.

  • March 16, 2021 at 11:59 am
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    Wrap actually i wouldn’t mind seeing after Tdl,
    Cat Dach Kane leave Suter with Hagel and Kub.
    Then either Strome or Soderberg, move one with Janmark, keep one, with Kurashev and Vesey, get a look at him there. Also try to move at least one of Wallmark or Highmore and give Johnson more ice time with Kampf and Carpenter.

  • March 16, 2021 at 12:05 pm
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    Boqvist still has difficulty skating backwards and getting back.He needs major work with a power skating coach.He has to get physically stronger on his skates.The only way he is a viable too pairing option is if he skates with a Victor Hedman type,and there aren’t too many of those guys out there. For now take the pressure off of him and stop trotting him out there as a lone d man on the powerplay.

  • March 16, 2021 at 12:51 pm
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    @Tim W.

    If Boqvist has trouble getting back and has significant issues with skating mechanics – which I don’t entirely dispute – why does Colliton keep green lighting him to go so deep in the offensive zone?

    1. Best defense is a good offense?
    2. Bowman says ‘play him’ so it’s the only way Colliton can make use of him?
    3. The Blackhawks don’t see him the same way most Committed Indians do?
    4. All of the above?

  • March 16, 2021 at 12:52 pm
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    Ian – agree on those lines – seeing that Vesey is UFA I think he’s definitely worth a look – if he does well move on from there

    Suter line did pretty well vs FLA and 8 and 38 are showing chemistry

    Also agree on getting Johnson some ice time

    Tim W – as I just laid out Boquist is doing his job without Victor Hedman unless CDH is a Victor Hedman type lol and if the 2 -5 pairing is the #1 then the 27-44 pairing is #2

    I’m not saying he’s a world beater just that he’s doing his job pretty well right now especially considering his age and the position he plays

  • March 16, 2021 at 1:34 pm
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    Perspective: 2018-2019 season start for Hawks that saw the end of the ‘Q’ era, lasted 15 games at a 6-6-3 record. I remember that time as an absolute embarrassment to true fans of the Hawks, where a coach who claimed defense first has his method changed to screw the defensive side of the game. We suffered through goals against of 7 twice, 6 once and 5 once. Totals were 46 goals for and 56 goals against for those 15 games. It was crazy action to watch and frustratingly poor defense to see after so many years of quality play.

    No, I’m not blaming Q. The dysfunction between team management and coaches had hit its high point, and I believe Q was done with it, as was management. The breakup happened because it had to happen.

    My point – The recent play of the team drags me back to those games and the apparent unleashing of the offensive side of the players, and disregard for defense. Everyone was out to score goals, and nobody cared about the defensive end. I don’t know if that was a coaching choice any more than it is now, but our defensive play lately looks eerily similar to those games.

    I’m thinking maybe JC needed to take the shackles off of the Dmen a bit to see and prove a few things. First, we have some offensively talented young Dmen. Next to show what a goalie can look like when he isn’t getting much help, and his response. And lastly, so he can show a team that he is trying to mold into a bunch of workaholics that they are not talented enough to do it the fun way, but need to do it the lunch pail way.

    I suspect that there are tape sessions during these days off to show a team what they look like when they are having fun, compared to what they look like when they are winning. Is winning more fun, or losing while playing for fun more fun?

    Or, maybe like Q, it is just time to fire JC!!! And Bowman. And Rocky. And Bozo. And everyone else in the organization (that’s just a touch of sarcasm for the haters, who will always hate).

  • March 16, 2021 at 1:35 pm
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    Can only imagine the amount of incessant complaining that would be going on by the “fans” on this board if the Hawks REBUILD was going as poorly as projected. Smoke a doober folks

  • March 16, 2021 at 1:38 pm
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    Can only imagine the amount of incessant complaining that would be happening on this message board if this rebuild was going as poorly as projected

  • March 16, 2021 at 1:42 pm
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    Can only imagine the amount of incessant complaining that would be posted on this board if this rebuild was going as poorly as projected. Hit up your local dispensary folks

  • March 16, 2021 at 2:20 pm
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    Sobchak, good post (thrice) … well, except for the doober part – last thing I need is fewer functioning brain cells. :-)

  • March 16, 2021 at 2:22 pm
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    Liked Vesey to be signed for this year. Since he’s going to be an UFA only trade I see is Vesey and a 6rd for our 7th round. If Tor really want to get rid of him. Who owes the Leafs? Owns owns. Is it advantageous for them to take Seabs contract to have LTIR? They still have to pay the money.

  • March 16, 2021 at 2:34 pm
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    If Colliton is true to his word, he would sit guys who aren’t playing well.

    “When there’s not as much competition, human nature can be to take it for granted and to get a bit complacent. .?.?. But [when there’s] competition, knowing you have to fight for your ice and your role, that’s a really good thing for the team.”

    Don’t know why Beaudin is up on the roster if he’s going to be scratched regularly. Colliton said it was important he play games in Rockford. Well, which is it? Can’t tell me he’s worse than Zadorov.

    And what about Highmore. His game=skate hard into the corner, fall down, lose board battle. Rather see Johnson or Pirri take his place.

  • March 16, 2021 at 2:51 pm
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    Havnt poste draft or playoff standings in awhile/to not over do it. Other teams that should be better then they started have been and we are still little better then we are prob at. So good for young wavers.

    Lets get another top draft player because we need it.

  • March 16, 2021 at 4:29 pm
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    Mo, I got us as low as 7th or 8th before ping pong balls.

  • March 16, 2021 at 5:13 pm
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    Before ping pong balls
    Top 5 draft picks
    BUF 11
    OTT 10
    SEA free
    DET 9
    ANA 7
    NJ 5
    NAS 4

    Top 10 picks
    VAN 2
    SAN 1
    NYR 1
    CLB 1
    ARI 0
    DAL 0
    LA 1
    CAL 2
    CHI 3

    So 7 teams going for top 5 picks and 9 teams going for top 10 picks/really 6-15th.

    We play our cards right we could looking at 6-8th pick. I would be ok with a 8-10 quality player because that comes with a free 30-40th pick and we do very good in that part of 2nd round drafts.

  • March 16, 2021 at 5:34 pm
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    Tim, sure. With 77 19 Hagel/not by himself we do have 5 16 then we have more Hagel guys coming in Barratt Johnson. Maybe others/those guys that are in juniors college now that play that phsyical style are a yr or so yet. So a lot right there we donot have this yr.

    Still need more then those thought for whole 23man roster to be able to play agasint all kinds of teams/like your saying.

    Thats where I would like to see 17/and others traded and bring in the kind your talking about. Guys like Rozy Hands other.

    Then I think were more balanced/have maybe enough. Right now/and short handed nah!

  • March 16, 2021 at 6:21 pm
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    JC needed to take the shackles off of the defense men? Whad?

    The shackles have been off, JC allows them to pinch, float and play below the dots at will. The Problem is . . . the current Defense men almost all of them have no real offensive minded skills, no IQ on that side of the pond, they make bad decisions, they get pinched in the corner or make a bad pass or are not aggressive coming up ice to help out forwards. Very very tentative no Roman Yosiiiiiii’s out there. Doug Wilson is not coming back. Watch Victor Hedman, how he gets up ice, crosses the blue line and drifts over the blue line about 15 feet. Every single play. Puts tons of pressure on the opponents trying to clear the zone and clogs the outlet passing lanes. Plus at about 15 feet the defense men now have to cover him causing mismatches and blown coverage. Very simple stuff . . . But Hedman is great at reading the play in front of him and drawing in a defender to FORCE them to cover him leaving a winger wide open, He help constrict the zone, clogs it up and causes turnovers. Anyway Go Hawks.

  • March 16, 2021 at 7:41 pm
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    Toronto GM Kyle Dubas said today he is trying to trade for a forward right now and NOT wait until the deadline due to the 14 day quarantine.
    He says he’s willing to give up a top prospect or draft pick.

    Hmmm. Would that be a fit for Janmark at that price ?

  • March 16, 2021 at 8:08 pm
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    I’d be happy to get a 2nd round pick for Janmark. Not sure if Toronto has cap space for his $2.25M cap hit.

  • March 16, 2021 at 8:25 pm
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    ebony

    do the rules allow the hawks to trade janmark for a 2nd round pick and retain a substantial amount of his contract? or the hawks get the pick and a player with an expiring contract they can absorb and offset for janmark’s cap hit.

  • March 16, 2021 at 8:34 pm
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    @Knuckle.

    Exactly. And sorry to say but now we are seeing why exactly Q was let go. Does anybody honestly believe Q would have played 7 rookies on his roster? He would have walked. To all you that drool over Boqvist. If Q was still here you’d be saying Boqvist who? Mitchell who? Beaudin who? Carlsson who? These young D men would have never seen ice time and Stan would have been buying more washed up vets to play. But we are talking about the HOF Q so if these kids never seen ice time under him and were down on the farm y’all would be saying he’s brilliant for letting them develop at a slower pace. Now with JC it’s Ok to let the kids play junior hockey in the NHL because after all they are only 20 years old.

  • March 16, 2021 at 8:37 pm
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    for those of you who are usmnt fans…. huge day for us. yunus musah declared for the usmnt. even bigger than the hawks signing slavin. by light years.

  • March 16, 2021 at 8:51 pm
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    Nameless think you forgot about Forsling, Gustafsson, Svedberg, Joki, TVR and forwards Hino, Hartman, Schmaltz to name a few, Q played rookies and woulda played these guys.

    Hawks29 the Hawks can retaon half of Janmarks salary/caphit.

  • March 16, 2021 at 8:58 pm
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    Who was the coach that played as a rookie Debrincat every night, amid the sideshow, bust, send him to RFD. posts daily here.

  • March 16, 2021 at 9:19 pm
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    Ian, thanks for answering the question from Hawks29. I was pretty sure they could but they have only 1 salary retention slot available because the other 2 are in use for Maatta and Saad – so I was thinking it might be a good idea to save it to possibly use to trade deHaan who has a $4.55M cap hit this year and next.

  • March 16, 2021 at 9:28 pm
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    EB that’s possible if a deal is available, alot teams will want expiring contracts at tdl if they pick anybody up so see what happens.

  • March 16, 2021 at 9:40 pm
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    Roamn, didnt see your post until half day later. Like not knowing is girlfriend is going to get pregnant/not being able to see posts until later.

    Yea your same as I saw 6-8th pick. Those teams in that top 5 group really suck. The teams in the group were now in/took awhile for that 11-2-5 stretch we had to ware off/we did that good.

    Are teams that can get ahead of us/sch. makes difference to.

    Even with this 0-2 we still had split games since the 11-2-5 thing and thats with TB/other. So we havnt really had a section where we did not good other then first few games. Which means we could have some hits and be around 0 after these ‘all worldly’ 14 games here.

  • March 16, 2021 at 10:05 pm
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    Nameless – what’s your point? – I can’t tell if you like Q for not playing rookies or not which by the way is just not true anyway

    Q played lots of rookies

    Add Verbeauty Kruger Shaw Danault Hammer Teuvo to the list Ian started

    Or do you not like JC because he got Qs job or do you not like posters who can see that Boquist is on a good development path and yes at 20 years old?

  • March 16, 2021 at 10:21 pm
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    Eliot Friedman reporting that the Hawks are willing to take on a bad contract at TDL if the offer is right

    I think we already knew that but it’s nice to have outside confirmation

  • March 17, 2021 at 7:46 am
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    Let’s say we make 3 moves and get a 2nd 3rd and 4th. What would you give Buffalo if they have the #1?

    Would they take a 1st and 2nd?
    1st and 2nd and we take Skinner at 6mil?
    1st and 2nd Skinner at 6mil and next year’s 3rd.

    Any other suggestions?

  • March 17, 2021 at 8:30 am
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    Maybe there’s another Sutter around for Buffalo.

  • March 17, 2021 at 9:24 am
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    Has any team ever traded the #1 pick in the draft for anything that didn’t also include one of the other top-5 picks? I don’t recall that ever happening – although with the strangeness of the 2021 draft … maybe?

    Speaking of the strangeness of the 2021 draft, with not only the lack of consensus on the top-10 but many of the potential 1st round players haven’t even played this season. Add to that the flat cap and the ramifications of the Seattle expansion draft and this is not the most opportune year to have a bunch of LTIR space with which to wheel and deal.

  • March 17, 2021 at 9:37 am
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    So I was watching the TB/DAL game last night and it was pretty entertaining – not only for the action on the ice but also to watch Dallas wearing one of the worst alternative uniforms ever. They looked like old baseball uniforms from 100 years ago. They weren’t as annoying as their other alternative uniform with the day-glo green stripes but they looked more like pajamas than hockey uniforms.

    But, it was a helluva game with Dallas scoring 2 goals in the last couple minutes to tie the game. TB won in the shootout but Dallas looks to be rounding into shape and I wouldn’t be surprised in they end up in the 4th spot and put the Hawks back into ping pong land. They got Radulov back and I think they’ll get Seguin back before the end of the season too. And, their rookie Jason Richardson is looking very good.

  • March 17, 2021 at 9:42 am
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    oops – Jason Robertson – not Richardson.

  • March 17, 2021 at 10:06 am
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    Didnt Saader play when he was a rookie to.

    I thinkthe thing is not as many really good prospects then to play at once like now and more like that coming.

  • March 17, 2021 at 10:50 am
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    We might have a top 5 draft pick yet.

    EBONYRAPTOR
    March 17, 2021 at 9:24 am
    Has any team ever traded the #1 pick in the draft for anything that didn’t also include one of the other top-5 picks? I don’t recall that ever happening – although with the strangeness of the 2021 draft … maybe?

  • March 17, 2021 at 10:51 am
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    ER, those alternates look like something you see in arena football in the land of China.

  • March 17, 2021 at 12:08 pm
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    Q would never play as many rookies as what is on the roster now. He’d put 1 or 2 in then with their first mistakes they’d be put in his doghouse until basically traded.

    Now my point is. Stan had to go with a complete rebuild and doing it with his draft picks. Wasn’t gonna happen with Q at the helm or does anybody think it would? I didn’t like that it happened so quickly because JC wasn’t ready. Why you ask? He played in the NHL but his coaching jobs were in Sweden. With larger rinks comes different systems and strategies. I just don’t think 1 year at the Rock he got to work all the bugs out. Then to come in and try to get those who played Q’s system made it even harder.

    I’ve been good with with any and all coaches they decided they needed to coach the team. From Reay to White to Pulford to Johnston to Magnuson to Tessier to Keenan and Savard and Q and JC and all the rest. I’m just a long time fan who believes they know the best way to get the team going in the right direction. I’ve watched this league change a lot over the decades and I believe they know what they want. I’ll still always support them.

    The biggest change to the league is all this fantasy crap. Stats this Corsi that is what people use to justify a person’s play when really all it takes to see how a player plays is by watching the game. You’ll see their strengths and weaknesses but if a weakness that a person sees is pointed out? Stats and Corsi are used to defend them. Sorry but that’s all about the money and what you’ll bet on them.

    Now I’ll just point out how much the league has changed over the decades and I’ll even use Boqvist as an example. Back in 1983 they had a young defenseman named Doug Crossman who was an offensive defenseman much like Boqvist is today but he was traded for a defenseman named Behn Wilson who over his years racked up hundreds of minutes in penalties. Why would they do that? Because Al Secord just came off a 50 goal season and they would rather he not be the main enforcer but concentrate on scoring. There was not this thing known as offensive defensemen back then but there is now. In today’s NHL that trade would never have taken place.

  • March 17, 2021 at 12:13 pm
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    A factor in favour of the Hawks at TDL is that Canadian teams need to quarantine a player from an American team for 2 weeks (like JL Dubois did) so they’ll be wanting to do a trade well in advance of TDL and this could force up the price

    TOR for example wants to make a trade probably for a forward and would part or so it seems with their #1 pick from last year Rodion Amirov

    Could there be interest from TOR in Janmark for Amirov? Not sure how the $ would work for TOR – they’d probably have to move some things around – maybe Stan would take back the retention ($1.25 M) of Phil Kessel’s contract if that’s even possible?

  • March 17, 2021 at 12:28 pm
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    Nameless – thanks for clearing up your point – the Hawks probably should have started their rebuild earlier than they did and Q likely stood in the way of that as likely did McD – now they are both gone and the rebuild is on

    As for advanced stats – I think I’m at least as old as you so if I can see the relevance of advanced stats so can you

    They are not the complete picture by any means and I don’t think anybody claims that they are but they can help create a complete picture along with the eye test as well as personal information about the player either from the player himself or from former coaches, teammates etc.

    I don’t need Corsi to see that Boquist is developing nicely and playing pretty well – the fact that stats like Corsi and scoring chances for and against back up my eye test might cause some people who seem to have an automatic Boquist hate reflex to rethink their position even a little

  • March 17, 2021 at 2:50 pm
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    Wrap – I think the first choice for the Leafs and others looking to “go for it” will be Taylor Hall. He is also on an expiring deal (just like Janmark) and I’m sure he has no interest in returning to Buffalo. If the Leafs miss out on Hall maybe Janmark becomes a consolation prize.

  • March 17, 2021 at 2:55 pm
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    Nameless – don’t forget the dog food coach – Alpo.

  • March 17, 2021 at 3:27 pm
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    The Leafs are soon to roll out Galenchuk 7.0. We’ll see if he clicks with the talented forwards.

  • March 17, 2021 at 3:27 pm
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    Galchenyuk

  • March 17, 2021 at 3:28 pm
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    MS – yes Janmark could be a consolation prize but he should have some good value even as a consolation prize and he’d be a cheaper rental than Hall

  • March 17, 2021 at 8:31 pm
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    Lots of chatter today about the Hawks willingness to take on bad contracts for draft picks or prospects and that the Hawks have more than $20 Million of room to play with right now because of LTIR.

    This could be a Great month for the rebuild. As I’ve posted here before. The goal is to get a 2nd first round pick in exchange for salary cap room.

    The good news is teams like Toronto, Vegas and Boston that want to go for it with a big ticket acquisition are not that worried about giving up a 1st rounder in a lightly scouted Covid year.

    If somehow Stan can come out with 4 picks in the top 50 of the draft, it would be an absolute coup.

  • March 17, 2021 at 9:54 pm
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    Craig Vegas interesting. Need space, plus need a defenseman (Dehaan)now that Petriangelo out for awhile. Lehner back so could be Fleury they want to move. If Lankinen the guy they want to be no. 1, haven’t Fleury around to mentor him and veteran backup not a bad thing next year. Maybe even Seattle take him. Possibilities there.

    Nameless i see your point but how many rookies do you think would be playing if Toews, Dach, Strome, Nylander, Shaw and Seabrook were healthy all year. My guess be Suter is only forward and if Seabrook was healthy only one of Boqvist or Mitchell. Goalies still be the same. No question Q didn’t want to be part of a rebuild but my point was he played lots of rookies and in an injury barrage year like this he wouldn’t have had any choice but to play some.

    MS agree Leafs like a bigger name than Janmark but might be tough for them to find the caproom to do it.

  • March 17, 2021 at 10:42 pm
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    Keeping fingers crossed that Stan can make some hay in TDL moves in this whacky season. Loved to see the Hawks get a solid potential #1 d-man and then nab Kirby’s little brother Colton in the 2nd round.

  • March 18, 2021 at 7:00 am
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    EB did Colton’s projection take a big jump, last i saw he was looked at as a late round pick or an maybe undrafted fa signing, that was a while ago though.

  • March 18, 2021 at 10:00 am
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    Ian, The draft site I watch is: https://www.lines.com/nhl/drafts/2021 and it has Colton Dach at #39. Has good size at 6’2″ / 185lbs. Here’s the writeup on him:

    Kirby’s lil brother is a big left winger who puts hit head down and drives to the net. At this juncture isn’t finished developing his acceleration and top gear, but he gets there, and when he does, he hits and finishes his checks. He is a dominant board player who is literally able to knock defenseman down in puck battles. His puck control is also very good, and is very difficult to move off the puck. Effective offensively, but still in the developmental stage. He will cut sharply enroute to the front and find a small space where pucks opportunistically find him. Will shoot towards the goalie’s far side pad to create rebounds to the low slot. He is hard on the back check. Hit opponents with frequency. He will drop the gloves. Still a work in progress.

  • March 18, 2021 at 3:10 pm
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    If he is anything like his brother, 2 Dachs are better than one.

    Sounds lime Strome be back in lineup tonight or Saturday. Dach getting pretty close to playing, Bowmans comments on Toews almost leads you to think he could be back before season end too.

    No disclosure from Colliton on tonights lineup.

  • March 18, 2021 at 3:26 pm
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    Strome back soon, Dach ahead of schedule and a positive word on Toews. WOWZER! I had more or less written Toews off, at least for this season but imagine if he’s able to return to go along with the immanent return of Strome and the probable return of Dach. With those 3 into the lineup – which 3 guys come out of the lineup? Highmore and Wallmark are the 2 obvious choices but who would be the 3rd guy? Maybe Stan is able to trade Janmark and/or Soderberg and the problem takes care of itself.

  • March 18, 2021 at 4:25 pm
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    EB be great if Toews returns too. If Strome isn’t in picture for next, move him at tdl with both Janmark and Soderberg. Put Dach with 19 and 88, Toews with 8 and 38. Sign Reichel to an elc, let him burn a year playing some games this year, put him with Suter and Kurashev, language wouldn’t be a barrier, he could get accustomed to North America. Be comfortable and ready for next year to develop either on Nhl roster or start in Rfd. Johnson play with 64 and 22, keep one of Wallmark or Highmore plus have Altybarmakyan who is doing his Hagel imitation in Rfd., deserving a callup for depth down the stretch. I’d be ok with that if it’s possible.

  • March 18, 2021 at 7:31 pm
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    How about we put a price tag or a scale let’s say on what round pick we get in order to eat some cap.

    1 to 2 mil 3rd rounder
    3 to 4 mil 2nd rounder
    5 and up 1st rounder

    Also was looking at which team I would want to help out more than others.
    In the Discover Norris Central I would help out Colu Caro TB and Fl. more than Dal and Nash due to the fact that we might go back to our regular division next year. It might not make a difference if the player is truly a one year rental.

    In the Honda Symthe West division LA SJ AZ. Not much worried about AZ next year yet.

    The Scotia Adams North Cal Van Mont
    The Mass Mutual Patrick East NYR Philly Bos.

    Out of all the teams that most likely have the earliest picks Van SJ Cal LA AZ. They might take a shot at the playoffs but miss.

  • March 18, 2021 at 8:05 pm
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    Wow. Janmark’s value way up. Double digits in goals. He’s hardly a consolation prize.
    We have him and team will definitely want him. Advantage Stan.

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