Blackhawks Blow Away Hurricanes

Two new faces joined the Blackhawks lineup on Monday night, but it was a few familiar faces leading the Blackhawks to a dominant win over the Carolina Hurricanes.

Jonathan Toews, Marian Hossa and Brandon Saad had spent most of the season together, but found their line broken up as coach Joel Quenneville looked to find a new mix with center Antoine Vermette on the roster. Kris Versteeg moved up to skate with Toews and Hossa, and Saad found himself on a line with Vermette and Patrick Sharp.

In spite of the line change, Chicago’s three star forwards each impacted the game.

Toews received a perfect pass from Michal Rozsival in the first period and beat Cam Ward for his 20th goal of the season. The Hawks captain found himself in the same position early in the second period, taking a pass from Duncan Keith and scoring a short-handed goal to extend the Hawks’ lead to 2-0. Toews’ 21st of the year held up as the game-winner.

After Toews’ second goal, the wheels fell off for the Canes. Even with an extended 5-on-3 early in the second, the Canes couldn’t take advantage of a struggling Hawks penalty kill unit. That unit also saw changes on Monday with Ben Smith traded to San Jose earlier in the day. Joakim Nordstrom took over on the top unit with Marcus Kruger and played well, but the kills were won by Niklas Hjalmarsson, who on the ice for almost the entire two-man advantage.

Nine minutes into the second, Saad had a shot blocked… right back to him. So he fired again – and scored. Saad’s 20th of the season appeared to break the Canes, who scrambled for the final 11 minutes of the middle period.

Kruger was rewarded for his excellent penalty kill work with his sixth goal of the season in the period’s final five minutes, putting an Andrew Shaw rebound past Ward.

The third period opened with the Blackhawks leading 4-0 and Ward on the bench; Carolina made a change in net after their expensive starter allowed four goals against 18 shots.

John-Michael Liles erased the shutout early in the third period, but Hossa pushed the lead back to four with his 18th goal of the season less than four minutes later. Toews and Rozsival picked up assists on Hossa’s laserbeam, giving Toews a three-point night and a two-point effort for Rozsival.

With just under six minutes remaining in regulation and the Canes putting limited pressure on the Hawks, Corey Crawford made an awkward saved and stayed down. He spoke with the training staff but stayed in the game. Alexander Semin beat Crawford for the second goal of the night for Carolina with 70 seconds left in regulation.

Crawford made 27 saves in the win.

How did the new guys look?

Vermette won only five of 17 faceoffs and was credited with only one takeaway in the game, but showed some good chemistry with Sharp and Saad early in his first game with the club. He played 12:55 in the game.

Timonen, who turns 40 in a few weeks, looked pretty good for a guy who hadn’t played in almost a full year. He skated 17:29 and blocked two shots in the win. Sure, there was some rust, but that should be expected for a guy playing his first game with a new team, much less his first game of the season.

Keith (24:29) and Hjalmarsson (24:23) were the only Hawks skaters to play more than 20 minutes, and each picked up an assist and two blocked shots. Keith also led the Blackhawks with two takeaways, while Brent Seabrook led the way with three blocked shots. He was also credited with three hits and one takeaway in 19:30.

Teuvo Teravainen remained with the Hawks and showed some flashes on the third line with Brad Richards and Bryan Bickell. He skated 11:58 and was credited with two shots on net and two blocked shots in the game. Nordstrom led the Hawks with five hits and spent 1:44 on the penalty kill.

Because Teravainen and Nordstrom remained with the Blackhawks through the deadline, they are ineligible for the AHL playoffs. Both appear to be in Chicago to stay.

Daniel Carcillo and Andrew Desjardins were the scratches.

Toews celebrate

47 thoughts on “Blackhawks Blow Away Hurricanes

  • March 2, 2015 at 10:06 pm

    fwiw, Ben Smith scored his first goal as a member of the Sharks with a redirect past Carey Price 6:51 into the first period tonight. Good for him!

  • March 2, 2015 at 10:18 pm

    Surprised that Stan did not any draft picks back for morin and smith.
    Hope Stan was sincere today when he said he can “recoup” the draft pics later.

    Btw, the 2014 draft was not anything special. Schmaltz looks small and shifty in person, but nothing that would make anybody say wow. Iocapelli has tailed off in the ushl.
    Oloffson looks like he might have NHL potential. Other than that. A lot of hours put into scouting and mileage but not much.

  • March 2, 2015 at 10:21 pm

    Tab, Smith looked great in the San Jose game thus far. Does the same thing for them (like great board work) but is capitalizing. I think he also got an assist on the third goal. Good for him!!!!

  • March 2, 2015 at 10:42 pm

    Nice bounceback for us and in front of the home crowd. Momentum shift? Sure felt like it. Mind you this was a slightly weakened Carolina team and we can’t win against the big teams with those breakout passes all the time. Still, Toews demonstrated great skill in scoring those two goals. Hope CC not hurt. Give the new guys a few games to get acclimatized …looks pretty darn good at this juncture …easier schedule upcoming …we should smoke the Oilers ( fingers crossed ) and great game upcoming requiring all hands on deck with Rangers. I’m feeling good about it all at this point.

  • March 2, 2015 at 10:44 pm

    The cup winning Hawks showed up tonight. Hawks have a poor record against Carolina at UC. Kudos to Hawk mgt for addressing problems long discussed in this blog. Good luck to Ben Smith, a class act and a smart guy. His performance , goal and perhaps an assist, in first SJ game may mean that he is learning that PK performance is not enough, witness Frolich. Of course, same Hawks have to show up against LA, StL et al, but for today, I’m very encouraged as is J. Toews in his statement.

  • March 2, 2015 at 10:58 pm

    Very solid game tonight. They played fast transition out of their zone and that drove the game for the Hawks. They got a little loosy goosy in the 3rd when their d-coverage gave the Canes too much room coming across the slot but that may be more of a communication problem with new guys and new lines and d-pairs.

    With the exception of Versteeg dancing with the puck at the blue line a few times, I thought all 4 lines played very well, and it was nice Q could roll all 4 lines pretty evenly.

    All in all a very good way to start the post TDL schedule.

  • March 2, 2015 at 11:16 pm

    Great to see Saader bury his own rebound for GWG! His production in the PO is going to be critical. I like the line changes for the top six as this should bring Sharpie back into the mix. Gettin real excited for April, May, & JUNE!

    Let’s Go Hawks!

  • March 2, 2015 at 11:31 pm

    Three points following tonight’s win…
    1. Great news for Ben Smith; hope he makes a nice contribution with San Jose. Character kid through and through.
    2. Hammer doesn’t get near the accolades he deserves; IMHO he is the NHL version of a lock-down corner. The kid is terrific defensively.
    3. As good as it is for some or many of the boy’s that there are extended breaks between upcoming games, I think it will detract from and slow Kimmo’s rounding into shape. My guess is that he’ll be in the whirlpool in the AM tomorrow.
    GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!

  • March 2, 2015 at 11:56 pm

    “perfect pass from Michal Rozsival”…have you ever uttered those words before? lol
    Watching them tonight–it seemed each guy wearing the Indian Head actually gave a shit tonight, instead of just going through the motions. Hoping this inspired play lasts….
    And thanks for putting Ben’s goal in for us to see. He was the favorite in our house; was such a gentleman with my 6 y/o at a meet & greet. Damn salary cap! But, sometimes change helps everyone involved. Till next time…Go Hawks!

  • March 3, 2015 at 7:12 am

    Hey…..look what some rest can do for Rosival. The lesson here is rotation.
    I am not sure I see the need for Carcillo except as a rotation substitute.
    If 42 and 86 are here to stay, good for them.

  • March 3, 2015 at 7:21 am


    One of Hawk’s best transition/tempo games of year -for All 4 lines…

    Very surprised at the Tempo/effectiveness of the 29/91/86 line—
    Thought TT had one of his strongest games- went to the net 3/4 times- and almost rewarded.

    Timo- IS slow- and could be a huge liability vs. wrong lines… (and I will not by “rust”)
    on a positive note- Timo- plays like a Bruin- Boxes people out and plays the body around the net (like no other Hawk really does-now)- could be an asset vs. certain guys.

    Really- don’t know the book on DesJardins… but I hope Q doesn’t “auto” skate him just because “we need some Toughness- crap”… cuz I loved the speed ALL 4 lines brought… Shaw belongs on Wing- and 4th line looked like BEES!!!

    BUT- Only one game, AND it was the Lowly Canes!!!!

    Lastly, I thought Vmette- was good at face-offs-lol

  • March 3, 2015 at 7:41 am

    Poor Sharpie. I wonder how many posts he has hit this year. He had some nice jump in his step tonight. Solid active game by 42 and 86. Did Bickel play? 65 sure looks much better as a winger. When the new man arrives perhaps it is time to give 29 a seat on the bench for an extended time. How many of his hits actually lead to turnovers? I wonder what got in to Rozy. Several of his passes made him look like Kane. Underwhelming start by 80/44.

  • March 3, 2015 at 8:21 am

    Richards being pushed by Vermette. Rozsival being pushed by Timmo and actually getting some rest. I’ll take it.

    And while it was just the ‘Canes. They had a really good February and beat two of the best teams in the league their last two times out. So they’ve been playing pretty well. Still, I’m not going to celebrate like they won the WCF last night.

    There is something to say about new players with their first game within a new system. I’m not going to judge Timmo and Vermette over one game.

    No game until Friday? Ugh.

  • March 3, 2015 at 8:32 am

    The boys definitely had some more spring in their step last night. Nice to see more of the rust being shaken off.

    Timonnen may not be the biggest or fastest guy out there, but he is certainly very positionally aware and has an active stick reminiscent of Keith. I wouldn’t expect his first game back after a year off to be picture perfect but he passed the initial eye-test that 27, 32 and the rest of the blue liners had been failing miserably.

    Every now and then even 19 gets embarrassed at the dot for a full night. One bad night doesn’t make 80 a bad center. I saw somewhere that there are 8 guys who have taken 1300 + draws this year and the Hawks have two of them (19 and 80) and both are firmly over 50%. Judge the guy on his total body of work rather than his first game on a new team.

    A good start to the 3rd quarter of the season. Hopefully they are focused for the final 18 games and hit their stride come April 12. Go Hawks.

  • March 3, 2015 at 8:50 am

    Thought the new guys were fine. Certainly not bad. Did notice Kimonen in front of the net for both goals against. I am confused as to where Desjardins fits in, or more importantly who sits. I understand what he brings, but I don’t really want to remove anyone from yesterdays lineup. Maybe he gives richards a night off or somehow fills in for shaw or bickell when they need some “inspiration”.

  • March 3, 2015 at 9:04 am

    The trades as predicted have “pushed” Towes and that’s great. Vermette looked very good to me, he has a habit of being where you’re supposed to be on the offensive end, finds empty space down low, when Hawks figure him out he’ll rock. All four lines grinded it out last night and all 4 mist do that every night. Vermette plays a very smart offensive game and back checks, PLUS the few face offs he did win, where very clean so hawks get into offensive instantly. Hawks usual send 4 guys diving into the face off circle grabbing, kicking, holding, flopping around and then everyone is out of position. Vermette is for keeps. Timonnen as some state is a “text book” defender, stick shoulder and body angle. Plays “technically ” better and smarter than any of our guys, plus he is aggressive always drifts up to the blue line, plays the body early and hard, which is what hawks suck at. Timonnen can pin you to the boards behind the net and the corners too even though he’s small, very smart at disruption of set plays knows what the “other guys want to do” Timonnen also will teach Hawks current d-men how to drift to the goalie, clear it out and protect the goal tender, he lost some speed, but is so good technically he make HAMMER who is great almost look average. Hammer foot work not as good or smooth, Timonnen seems to be a step ahead? All in all great game against a okay team.
    Desjardins will make a difference too when he plays will add to that GRIND, simple hockey GRIND IT out, well done . . Car-Bomb is sadly going away. Odd how he wasn’t moved?

  • March 3, 2015 at 9:30 am

    Crushed an awful team. That might have been the worst game played by an opponent all season. Wow is Carolina bad. Enough about them.

    Kimo look a lot better then I expected. If he is anything close to the guy from last year the Hawks got a player. He has good IQ, that can not be stated enough, know where to go, know where to be and read the situation. He played like a guy that sees the game.

    Vermette looked good not flashy. Smart solid player he’s a guy you win with, he back checks well Q will love him and play him a ton. Excellent move again by Stan. Nice to see Tuevo playing and Carbomb not. Nice thing right now is the playing time is competitive and that’s a good keeps guys on their toes it’s a nice problem to have.

  • March 3, 2015 at 9:30 am

    The upcoming schedule is kind to the Hawks. They will have plenty of practice time to get the new guys into the mold. I also think last Friday’s debacle was a wake up call. I attended that game. At least 10,000 Hawk fans and the Hawks knew it. In their building, 10,000 Hawk fans and a potential SC opponent, that game sucked.

  • March 3, 2015 at 11:42 am

    I think it’s too early to assess where Timonen is. As for “rust” – how can he not be rusty when he hasn’t played an NHL game in almost a year. Players in the prime of their career take time to get back into “game shape” after not playing for a while – especially getting re-acclimated to the speed of the game – endurance/wind/legs. Timonen is almost 40 so it’s to be expected that he will not be the best he can be for at least a couple weeks.

    As for TT – yes he had some clever passes and didn’t shy away from the “hard areas” but I’m not one who thought he was afraid of contact before so this is not new news to me. He is still getting comfortable playing at the NHL level and he’s a smart player who knows there’s no point in getting “Kruger’d” so he takes evasive action which can be interpretted as being afraid of physical contact. That was the biggest question I had about whether or not TT could play in the NHL – would he be afraid of the physical game or would he be able to handle it? I thought he answered the question within the first couple games he played this season. He won’t win any physical battles but he’s not intimidated. That told me he will have a very nice career in the NHL – whether that means imeediately or it takes him a year or two to get strong enough to not get pushed off his skates the way he is now.

    I saw something yesterday that was interesting which was because TT and Nordstrom were still on the NHL roster after the TDL – neither of them are eligible to play in the AHL playoffs. That indicates both will stay up with the Hawks which means the Hawks have 14 forwards (19, 81, 10, 23, 20, 80, 91, 29, 16, 86, 42, 65, 13, 11) and 7 d-men (2, 4, 7, 5, 32, 27, 44). Two of the forwards will need to be scratched each game – Carcillo will probably one of them most of the time but who will the 2nd scratched forward be?

    Back to be exciting times to be a Hawks fan again – “good” exciting instead of “bad” exciting like it was for the last couple months.

  • March 3, 2015 at 11:55 am

    Did I miss anything or has Rufus ever identified his “trusted source” that told him about Sharp’s “womanizing” and the “real” lockerroom confrontation involving “Sharp, Toews, Bickell, and Keith”?

    Rufus’s claim was posted feb. 27 at 10:05.

    Here’s hoping that Sharp follows through on his threat to take legal action against those who are spreading this crap and that Tab is asked to turn over Rufus’s IP address.

  • March 3, 2015 at 12:17 pm

    Very business-like approach last night. 80 sure is a lanky dude with a long stride and a good skater. Thought he was a tad bit too cute a few times…we need not see ANY more passes like the one 80 made with 13:55 remaining in the 2nd period. That may be a coaching opportunity for Q.

    Thought 4 played a helluva game and 32 looked great with some rest.

    It’s hard waiting for Friday for the next game, but with new guys around, this is a great time for 8 more days at home with no travel before we pack our bags for Vermette’s old home. PRACTICE TIME!

  • March 3, 2015 at 12:48 pm

    A very positive outing for the Hawks. Sure it was against a team that is not playing for much right now, but the Hawks did many things really well. As noted above, Rozy had an excellent game which we should interpret as some rest is good for this guy as we wind down the season and look to playoffs. D pairings looked fine last night and there weren’t too many giveaways. Also correctly noted, Hammer is just a marvel to watch play defense with such poise. He really makes it look easy and anticipates plays so well. Fun to see him paired with Keith for a bit. Nick actually has much better hands when he decides to go for it and stick handle through traffic. One gets the impression he could be a much greater offensive weapon at some point in his career.

    Loved watching Toews surgeon like work on Ward last night. Tazer is a nightmare for keepers on those plays. No wonder his SO success is so positive. Lines last night were a glimpse of whats to come. Add of Desjardins will make things even more interesting. Does Carcillo really get much more ice time as we move forward?

    I agree with ER regarding TT and his learning curve. I also don’t see him shying away from contact as much as he is able to avoid it. Not a bad thing. Kruger is a freak in that the guy gets plastered almost every game and is able to get up and just resume play as though nothing had happened. Most guys that get laid out that hard are thinking WTF hit me? Krugs is somehow able to sustain the shock of these monster checks. A really unique quality, but don’t we all cringe every time he gets drilled? The guy should get the Timex Award for being able to take a hit.

    Don’t know about you guys but Crawford looked like tweaked a groin or a hip flexor last night. I was really pleased to see him carry on. Maybe just a cramp, as we was able to get some extension following the play in question. We need him to stay healthy.

    Vermette will be fine as well as Timonen. Timonen in the WGN radio post game interview said he needs live games to get up to speed so this week obviously isn’t ideal for his conditioning. His attitude though sounds great. I think he is going to help at crunch time.

    Sharpy looked more focused in his play last night. The allegations about his off ice activities are being shamelessly exploited on AM radio 670. Dan Bernstein should get a frickin life. That afternoon segment as it relates to hockey is just the pits. These guys know crap all about hockey and are only forced to talk about it because the Hawks are a good team. Ignorance is bliss. Some karma issues are out there for those smug and arrogant know it all’s.

    Lets Go Hawks!!

  • March 3, 2015 at 1:12 pm

    Phil…right on about Kruger, I think “geez how much can this guy take?” at least once a week it seems. Same for Hjammer.
    And thank you for calling out Bernstein…he is so smug and disgusting with his incessant need to stir the pot. I truly believe all this Sharpie BS can be traced back and directly attributed to him.

  • March 3, 2015 at 1:54 pm

    Timonen’s IQ will make getting back into the flow easy, shape is another thing but he is so smart, he won’t let himself get too far out of position, this guy is thinking on the ice and on the bench, watch him, he’s amazing a real student because of his lack in size he had to be SMARTEST guy on ice! Vermette will fit in instantly for ME it’s not HIM it’s the rest of the HAWKS who need to adjust to them. Vermette can teach a masters class on offensive zone positioning, Just need to KEEP HIM ON ONE LINE and go, the issue is the HAWKS “lamely” juggle lines like no one else, I’ve argued that all that insecurity “mash up and mix up” does nothing for confidence, timing and comfort for anyone!

  • March 3, 2015 at 1:57 pm

    TT has a lot of talent, but now that the HAWKS are playing “heavy” more physical I think space will naturally open up for him and he will find a little more space like last night to “miss or side step checks” and stay away from big hits! I still think his wrist shot is all he has, his slap shoot is weak an backhand too, but that is okay, but he can pass with the best of them and skate into the open ice. We’ll see . . . . But look at poor Kruger and what punishment he takes, as i have said for 2 years now, not fair he’s not built for it and TT is built like Figure Skater?

  • March 3, 2015 at 3:03 pm

    Question to all: would you rather Hawks play like last night with same personnel for the rest of the season? Or, Kane was never injured?

  • March 3, 2015 at 3:07 pm

    A very good game against a not so good opponent who had a case of the quits on the ice.

    LOVE the addition of Kimmo. Exactly what we needed on defense for the price paid. He might not skate well, but he’s the type of gritty blueliner that makes nothing easy for the opposing rush. If the Hawks have the ability to manage Kimmo’s minutes, then he should be rock solid. Its essentially the same argument that goes for Rosival. The idiot brigade on this blog likes to rip Rosival, but it’s not his fault the Hawks have been terribly thin on defense and thereby forced to play Rosy more than he should play.

    Vermette is going to be just fine and is a major upgrade over Richards. Just get him on that 2nd line and be done with it.

    Like Desjardins a lot. Can’t wait until he plays. He’s going to make life easier for the other guys because he’s willing to pay the price on the board, behind the net, wherever. A skill set and willingness that has been sorely lacking on this team.

    Hjalmarsson? He continues to validate my strongly held view that he is among the most underrated players in the game. He is wicked good at what he does and just a champion on the ice. He is a “core” guy on this team….make no mistake about that.

    Crawford? I chuckle when the idiot brigade say he is replaceable and that Raanta and Darling would do just fine. Crow showed last night why he is the war horse this team needs to once again ride hard in the playoffs. Raanta and Darling can’t carry his nut cup on any level, and so lets just stop anymore of that bullsh!t once and for all. Some of you need to get over Crow’s salary…he’s a critical core piece of this team. No Cup in 2013 without Crow either.

    But alas, it all comes down to Kane being able to return in the playoffs. If he can’t come back then I still don’t see the Hawks getting out of the 2nd round.

  • March 3, 2015 at 4:01 pm

    Bri- All the vermette’s and Timonen’s in the world do not equal 1 Patrick Kane. I have always said a healthy Hawk team would be the favorite to win the Cup. Without Kane they will struggle to get out of the first round. The Hawks can make a run but everybody needs to be at the top of their game.

  • March 3, 2015 at 6:31 pm

    @Maybe15: Hawks have a poor record IN RALEIGH, where they’ve won only once since moving to their new rink in Raleigh several years ago.

  • March 3, 2015 at 6:53 pm


    You can count the guys that equal Kane on one hand. He’s got a chance to be the best American born player ever. There is no replacing a player like him.

  • March 3, 2015 at 7:07 pm

    SSHM-We are very fortunate to have Kane on the Hawks. I think a case can be made that the Hawks have 3 of the top 5 players in the world in 88, 19 & 2. Of course I may be a little biased.

  • March 3, 2015 at 8:12 pm

    We were going to have diff lines anyways when 80 and 44 got here. It is excellent coaching to do it at the same time. That 10-80-20 is strong and can play some/split the shifts 19 lines does against the other teams top line (16 line still as well). This allows 19 line to be more offense opportunity. Also more balanced that we have three lines to do this. Roll 4 lines, baybay.

  • March 3, 2015 at 8:17 pm

    Bri – that’s a good question, and difficult to answer. I think to answer that question I first have to answer another question – before Kane was injured, did I think the Hawks could improve their play enough to win the Cup, especially on the defensive side? While I say I never count out the Hawks, my gut told me that they were not going to be able to “flip the switch” this time.

    So before Kane’s injury I thought the Hawks chances to win the Cup were pretty slim. Therefore the question becomes – do I think the Hawks chances to win the Cup have improved with the (temporary) removal of Kane and (permanent) removal of Smith and the additions of Vermette, Timonen and Desjardins and I think they have because I think those additions will improve the defense which is what was needed to improve their chances to win in the playoffs.

    So the answer is “Yes”, I would rather have things work out the way they did than have Kane not get injured and not acquire 80, 44, and 11.

    Having said all that, the type of injury Kane has makes a difference in the way I answered the question. If the injury were a knee or shoulder or something that could have recurring or chronic effects, then no way would I answer the question “Yes”. But a broken collarbone will heal and not affect Kane’s long term career.

  • March 3, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    ER- same thing I was thinking. Ohh the irony, the best player on the team this year gets injured which may end up giving the hawks a better chance to win the cup.

  • March 3, 2015 at 9:05 pm

    ER, Ernie, guys who know cap info, did we cover Timonens .750 bonus on this yrs cap with the extra from 28 trade, in addition to being able to keep 86, 42 on 23man/know unlimited man/under cap. So that the bonus wont be on the ’16 cap.

  • March 3, 2015 at 9:38 pm

    Morrison – I don’t know. I’m as lost without Capgeek as anyone.

  • March 3, 2015 at 9:48 pm

    @Morrison, I believe the Sharks retained half of Desjardins’ cap and that allowed the Hawks to keep Nordy/Teuvo up

  • March 4, 2015 at 1:21 am

    Frolik Navidad is correct (and we posted as much on the deal). San Jose ate half of Desjardins’ cap hit so the Hawks can afford Teravainen the rest of the way.

  • March 4, 2015 at 6:06 am

    I was wondering on the Timonen .750 bonus though. Did that also cover 44 bonus he gets for playing 10-19 games. It would be really smart by Bowman that the 28/44 trade also covered this bonus on this yrs cap, so it doesn’t go on the ’16 cap.

  • March 4, 2015 at 8:31 am

    Bri and ER- If I understand you both correctly… Hawks PO chances have improved w/o Kane and + the “new” guys…

    This is a perfect example/analogy— of my case VS. Crow/contract VS. cheap Goalie + 1/2 Better skaters (making the $$$ saved by NOT paying Crow)…

    Also- another strong case- for “goalies are over-rated”… Dubnyk… Sucked for bad teams… now He is an “all-star”… NOT because of Dubnyk (cuz skaters in front of him)

    So I hope SB is able to move Crow this summer.

  • March 4, 2015 at 9:48 am

    To be fair, Dubnyk is on a nice run and can be considered a “hot goalie”, but really as we look to the future he has never been a shut down guy for any period of time. Regarding your case Wall for moving CC based on salary, I do not subscribe. Good goalies get paid, especially when they are instrumental in winning a Stanley Cup. I still view Corey as a quality NHL keeper and good property. I don’t think he will be moved in the off season.

    Lets Go Hawks!!

  • March 4, 2015 at 11:22 am

    Wall – a couple points.

    First, yes, I think the playoff chances have improved. However, to win the Cup I think the Hawks need Kane back in the lineup. The hope is the defense improves enough to get through the first round or two but ultimately the Hawks need Superman to get to the mountain top.

    Second, I don’t subscribe to the “any goalie will do” philosophy. Certainly the team defense affects the goalie’s play and if the team defense is good enough it can take the team a long way. But much like my comment on the team needing Kane to win the Cup, they also need a better than “average or worse” goalie to make a couple key saves that the lesser goalie lets slip through. The margin between defeat and victory in the playoffs is too slim to win with a goalie that isn’t on Crawford’s level. Just my 2 cents.

  • March 4, 2015 at 1:29 pm

    Wall- I agree with you in saying Crow is overpaid. He is the 6th highest paid goalie in the nhl. If the Hawks win the cup this year and Crow plays strong in the playoffs again, do you still consider him overpaid though?

  • March 4, 2015 at 8:32 pm

    I am not buying the argument that the Hawks playoff chances are improved with the subtraction of Kane and addition of the 3 new guys. First of all, it is difficult after one game to evaluate how well the new guys will perform with the Hawks. Secondly, I don’t know how anybody could think that the guys we got are anywhere near as talented as Kane(who was having an MVP year) either individually or collectively. Perhaps this is just an attempt to keep the hope alive. The Hawks will be better when Kane gets healthy and gets to play with the new additions. You can keep the new guys and I will take Kane anyway.

  • March 4, 2015 at 8:33 pm


  • March 4, 2015 at 10:26 pm

    Hawks1961 – I don’t know how you could come away with the opinion that I (or anyone else in this thread) insinuated that the three guys are more talented than Kane. I said explicitly that they are not. But what your rebuttal failed to address is the reason I said the teams playoffs chances are better. I don’t mind debating your opinion against mine, but I think it would work better if you addressed the reasoning I used to come to my opinion which was clearly stated in a couple posts.

    Additionally I posted my opinion that the Hawks need Kane back to go all the way.

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