Blackhawks Come Up Short In Winnipeg

Seven days ago the Chicago Blackhawks started a crucial five-game road trip that many believed would play a significant role in the team’s approach to the trade deadline.

The Blackhawks started the trip with a terrific first period in Winnipeg. They lost that game 5-2. And lost the two subsequent games at Edmonton and Vancouver by scores of 5-3 amd 3-0, respectively. The trip was turning into a bon fire with any hope for the postseason serving as kindling to a beautiful, long burn.

Then the Hawks went into Calgary and hung eight on the Flames on Saturday night. Almost enough goals to make the gross scoring for the trip look respectable.

In the six days between games in Winnipeg the Jets lost both of their games – both home games against the struggling Rangers and Sharks.

Chicago got into Winnipeg at about 3 AM local. The Blackhawks had an opportunity to right the wrong they suffered to start the trip in the same barn where it began seven days ago. But the quick turnaround would likely make for a tired Blackhawks team.

After a rough night in Calgary, rookie defenseman Adam Boqvist got to watch Sunday night’s game from the press box. Veteran Nick Seeler, who made his Blackhawks debut in Winnipeg last Sunday, took his place in the lineup. Seeler picked up an assist and seven penalty minutes in the game against the Jets to start the trip.

So how would a tired Blackhawks team look at the end of a long trip?

Actually pretty good in the first period. The Hawks skated well and were physical in the game’s opening 15 minutes. It took almost 16 minutes for one of the teams to get on the board and it was Chicago making the first mark as Ryan Carpenter redirected a shot by Patrick Kane into the net.

Kane had nine points in seven games in February coming into Sunday night’s game; has had three multi-point games in the month. He picked up his 47th assist of the season on the Carpenter goal. Olli Maatta was also credited with an assist on the goal.

After one period Winnipeg had a 14-10 shot advantage but the Blackhawks were winning by one. After heading to the penalty box six times last Sunday against the Jets, the Hawks avoided being short-handed in the opening 20 minutes and looked terrific until the final couple minutes when the Jets started to crank up the pressure.

Kirby Dach came out of the gates well. He led all Blackhawks skaters with three shots on net in the first period while skating five shifts. Jonathan Toews won five of seven faceoffs in the first period as well.

Seven days ago the Blackhawks took a 2-0 lead in the first period and then gave up the next five goals. How would this weekend’s matchup play out?

Early in the second period the Jets dominated the puck. There were a couple shifts that saw the puck in the Blackhawks’ zone for well over a minute but the Hawks did a good job breaking up passes, blocking shots and keeping traffic away from Corey Crawford.

Crawford made a magnificent save 6:30 into the second period but the rebound made its way back to the blue line where Nathan Beaulieu was waiting. He unloaded and Mason Appleton got a piece of the puck on the way in. It beat Crawford and the game was tied.

Nine minutes into the period Kyle Connor appeared to tuck the puck into the corner of the net. However, he did it with his right elbow. Connor pretty clearly tucked the arm in as he made contact. The NHL asked the officials to put the headsets on for a moment as they considered the legality of the goal.

The league saw what fans at home did – the goal was not legal. What could have been Connor’s 30th of the season was taken off the board and the game remained tied.

Winnipeg kept bringing it and eventually took the lead. Jack Roslovic scored his 12th of the year at 15:37 to put the Jets up 2-1.

With 52 seconds left in the second period Toews and Kane got together on a special scoring play that tied the game and made a little history in the process.

Kane’s 27th goal of the season is the 1,012th of his career, moving him into a tie with Blackhawks icon Steve Larmer for 87th place in NHL history in career regular season points. The Blackhawks, of course, still have not done the right thing and retired Larmer’s number 28. That’s two decades overdue.

Toews and Dominik Kubalik were credited with the assists on Kane’s tying goal.

The second came to an end with the score tied at two. Winnipeg out-shot the Blackhawks 15-14 in the second period but the Kane goal erased a period that was completely dominated by the Jets. Chicago now had the opportunity to take some momentum into the third period with what were likely dead legs at the end of a long road trip.

Dach failed to put a shot on net in the second period but after 40 minutes he and Carpenter were tied for the team lead with three each. Toews continued to dominate at the dot, winning 10 of 14 total draws in the first two periods.

Seven days ago the Blackhawks allowed four unanswered goals in the third period against the Jets. How would this Sunday evening turn out?

The Jets took the lead back 96 seconds into the third period. A Beaulieu shot was tipped by Alex DeBrincat and slipped past Crawford to give the Jets a 3-2 advantage.

Chicago clearly had no legs in the third period but credit the Hawks for continuing to work hard and do their best to pressure the puck. The Hawks were able to keep the score 3-2 until Crawford went ot the bench with 1:45 left in regulation for the extra attacker.

The Hawks kept the puck in the zone for 70 seconds with Crawford on the bench but couldn’t get a good shot on net. Blake Wheeler cleared the zone with seven seconds left in regulation and the game ended with the Blackhawks suffering a one-goal loss to finish their road trip.

Crawford made 35 saves to keep his team close.

Erik Gustafsson skated 24:04 and led Chicago with four shots on net. Maatta led the Hawks with six blocked shots and Seeler was credited with a team-high five hits.

Kane was terrific on both ends of the ice. He was credited with a team-leading three takeaways in 20:45 and had two points. Toews was also credited with three takeaways and won 12 of 19 faceoffs in 19:39.

Dylan Strome and David Kampf where the only two Blackhawks forwards who failed to put a shot on net. Strome lost seven of 12 faceoffs in 13:46 and was minus-one in the game.

53 thoughts on “Blackhawks Come Up Short In Winnipeg

  • February 16, 2020 at 10:01 pm

    They are done….needed to win on this road trip…..season is over

  • February 16, 2020 at 10:03 pm

    Cat waives his stick on a point shot. Either get in the lane or get out of the way. Him ans his buddy Strome are playing pond hockey. It’s a shame for Dach to have to play with these losers.

  • February 16, 2020 at 10:04 pm

    Thing to do at trade Deadline
    1. Trade Gustafsson
    2. Trade Crawford
    3. Trade Kampf

    After missed the playoffs
    1. Fire Colliton ans entire coaching staff
    2. Fire Gauthier

  • February 16, 2020 at 10:08 pm

    Not to mention the minus 2 on dcat and his buddy

  • February 16, 2020 at 10:09 pm

    Lost their back to back magic on this trip, ran out of gas against a rested team, it happens. See if Bowman makes any moves this week to get some picks or prospects.

  • February 16, 2020 at 10:25 pm

    Well the road trip is over and they come out with one win. Stan time to earn your pay, Lets Make A Deal. Or several please and don’t overspend on anyone on this roster. Three years no playoffs nobody in this organization should feel safe except maybe Rocky. With Seabrook maybe back next year we need to clear some cap space, trade Crawford and Lehner.

  • February 16, 2020 at 10:26 pm

    Package Lehner and Debrincat. If Dcat isn’t scoring he’s damn near useless

  • February 16, 2020 at 10:27 pm

    AGAIN, just incapable of winning the games they need to win.
    When will Stan go away?

  • February 16, 2020 at 10:31 pm

    Steven D. – it is not Colliton’s fault. Stan threw him into an untenable situation. Fire bastard Bowman! But either way Colliton needs to go as well but not to be blamed for the team’s downfall. That’s on Stan and Stan alone.

  • February 16, 2020 at 10:34 pm

    Last night, Konroyd said that the puck is like a hand grenade on the sticks of Strome and DeBrincat after everything came so easy last year. Strome is spending a lot of cash. He is probably worth re-signing but not for a large pay day.

    They have to re-sign Kubalik. The guy is “dangerous” in almost every game.

    People do a lot of griping about Colliton. One of the questions is how well this team would be doing under a different coach. They play hard for him and do not surrender without battling. It did not feel like the team was playing hard when they were faced with adversity at the end of Q’s reign.

    Boqvist sitting was not bothersome. He was rugged last night and we all know he will have bad moments at this young age. Seeler plays hard and even though he was on the ice for a couple goals, the front of the Hawks’ net is no longer a “safe space” when Seeler is on the ice. KooKoo battles people there too.

    This was not a disgraceful performance but the Hawks are probably capped where they are with this roster.

    If the comments from posters on this site from yesterday are accurate that Lehner and the Hawks have been negotiating and are not close, that will mean they will have to sign Crawford again and pray he doesn’t get hurt, or spend a lot on another excellent goaltender in free agency. Then you have the same situation as this year with too much tied up in goalies. Unless you really want to roll the dice and bring up Delia. It will be very interesting a week from now.

  • February 16, 2020 at 11:11 pm

    I would give the Hawks a pass on a hard critique of this one but the fact is that they knew the end of this road trip set up poorly for them and that they would probably have no legs for this game.They needed to win the 1st games of this trip and failed.Tonight the stars actually got stronger as the game went on.88,8,and 19 were dangerous and active.Debrincat halfasses it in the defensive zone.He has to get to his checks and win battles.Strome needs lots of space to be even acceptable.Too slow and soft.The 1st 2 goals were due to tired legs with the forwards late to the point and the defensemen not getting body position and controlling opposing forwards sticks.Kamph just does not provide anything offensively to keep a cycle going.The defense for the most part was o.k.Seeler had the energy and cleared the net front delivering effective hits as advertised.The trade market is heating up with some trades today,so lets see how long Bowman waits before moving what should be moved.

  • February 16, 2020 at 11:43 pm

    Rusty, thanks for helping/listing good prospects on Defensemen.

    Teams are giving away 1st rounders like they are going out of style. Plus a body! A 1st round pick body! We better get 1st round picks for Lehner and Crow. Probably Gus too.

    Thats why I was thinking, after someone here-Craig?-posted about the article that Bowman said were selling.

    Lets get the mother load of returns for every player we can/except for certain guys.

    I talked to a woman I know that knows Crows family. Her boyfriend runs a rink in Categeauy and she knows them somewhat. She said she would ask Coreys dad what he/they are thinking. I told her about her about the contracts with both goalies and whats going on with roster.

  • February 16, 2020 at 11:49 pm

    I know were not a top 5 roster right now and we have some holes. I go back father then just this road trip.

    It was the 10 day layover that the shtt hit the wall.

    12-5-2 before 10 day layover
    2-5-2 since 10 day layover

  • February 17, 2020 at 12:11 am

    before anyone puts kubalik in the hall of fame take a hard look at his measly 13 assists this year and the following list of assists per player:

    keith 14
    murphy 13
    maatta 12
    carpenter 12
    nylander 11
    dach 11

    not a very good stat that three d-men and two fourth liner wingers are basically averaging the same amount of assists per game as one of the first line wingers. when kubalik isn’t putting the puck in the net he isn’t adding much to the team.

  • February 17, 2020 at 12:54 am

    Lehner needs to be traded to get something worthwhile in return. And the goalie situation would be better if our genius Gm and Mr. Kelley would have a drafted a prospect goalie waiting in the wings. Insteand we have a $5million dollar backup! Oh yeah, 10 years and still no real prospect in net for the Hawks! Thx Stan!
    NOTE: The PENS have made the playoffs 13 seasons in a row. All these with Crosby and Malkin missing considerable time over the years compared to Kane and Toews, yet their prospects always produce or they are traded for top 6 players. And they have drafted goalies like Jarry and Murray while they had Fleury!
    We have a GM who has taken away the prime years of Kane and Toews’s career because of his incompetence. A GM who takes one step forward and 3 steps back!
    A GM who hires a DIV.2 Swedish league coach to lead 3 cup champions! A coach who has Carpenter centering a second line? Carpenter? HE would not make the roster in Winnipeg, Vancouver, Calgary or Edmonton…and maybe 30 other NHL teams. Thx Stan!

  • February 17, 2020 at 6:24 am

    Most of the tdl trades are done ahead of tbe final day, not on it. The actual day is often fairly slow. Need to do the paper trail at least for who is on Rfd playoff roster. Dach can’t be added, but Boqvist and Highmore likely are. Kubalik and Nylander unlikely to be i would think.

  • February 17, 2020 at 7:15 am

    Larmer’s Jersey, Ovie has 17 assists only 4 more than Kubie. Ovie will be in the HOF. If Kubie is 1/4 of Ovie I’ll take it.

    Got something for McD for marketing. Once eliminated have Larmer back for One Last Shift again. This time have who ever wore his number (I think Beaudin) in the starting line up. Once he finishes his lap or better yet once the Anthem is over. Have Beaudin skate over to him. Take off his jersey and hand it over to him. Announce to the crowd that no one will wear that number ever again and next season we will have the ceremony. At least one game will be an actual sellout.

  • February 17, 2020 at 7:21 am

    Can’t agree more with the board- we needed a better road trip. NOW there has to be a sense of urgency to go for #4 while we still have a “productive”, healthy Kane & Toews!
    Dach is a keeper- and likely Lehner….I agree, let Corey go to win another cup.
    Here’s the dilemma for laying out the future – trades etc…STAN! He’s useless! Gotta go! Colliton NOT an NHL coach! Should have been an understudy with Q- but Stan and Q were not a fit!
    I really feel for the players, but you can’t make chicken soup out of chicken poop.

  • February 17, 2020 at 7:23 am

    Signing off for 2019/2020! See you in the fall!

  • February 17, 2020 at 8:07 am

    @Nylander – OK, I’ve watched the last three games and I have to say that Nylander has actually impressed me with his effort, his offensive game, and his willingness to battle along the boards. So, I was wrong about this kid being a dog, he just needs guidance and patience. Now that the season is basically over, let’s hope that the Hawks brass gives it to him.

  • February 17, 2020 at 8:27 am

    As last year, they can’t win any must-win games. The tides just against them. They aren’t winning 50/50 situations.

    While they have not been mathematically eliminated, I don’t see how they are going to go on the run required to get them there.

  • February 17, 2020 at 8:36 am

    @JR I’ll second that concerning Lamer. Chewing gum for everyone.

    @Tommy. I notice the same increase in effort from Nylander these last couple of games. His problem is consistency, no one questions the talent when he wants to bring it. Don’t be too quick to pull him out of the dog house. To me he is in the prove it stage.

    Decat is a liability and Strome is what we thought he was….slow. These guys are not top 6 forwards on a Cup caliber team. Get what you can, its time to sell.

  • February 17, 2020 at 8:38 am

    Strome experiment should be over. Unless his injury is a factor, he’s simply not performing like a top six player. I am not as down on DeBrincat and think he will bounce back. He’s had a tough season. I agree with Tommy Ivan that Nylander has been improving and the Hawks should invest in more time with him.
    Trade candidates imo are Gustavson, Maatta, Strome and Lehner. Maybe Murphy and Kubalik if the return warrants it.

  • February 17, 2020 at 10:17 am

    With respect, I don’t think Kubalik was meant to be a table setter, dish-the-puck type player. He was signed to score goals, and thus far, he’s fit in. Don’t think anyone is anointing him some god, but his play is impressive and clearly has chemistry with Toews. His passing last night was high-end, takes skill to do. Further, he’s been on lines where it would be hard-pressed to get assists.

  • February 17, 2020 at 10:18 am

    The Cap reality is that the Hawks can not afford Lehner.With the uncertainty of Dehaan,Seabrook,and Shaw injury situations,if there is uncertainty,the Hawks need to move Maata,Lehner Gus,and Strome.They will need to buy out Smith.With Dach looking like the next #2 Center,I would not even bridge Strome. They need a legitimate #3 Center that can skate with his wingers and not slow everything down.Hope that Mitchell can play and roll with Seeler and Koekoek.Offer Crawford a 2 year deal and have Delia or Lankinen as the backup.Who knows if Bowman will be here to see it through.

  • February 17, 2020 at 10:23 am

    Kubalik has high end skills all the way around. The problem is that Toews does not finish at a high rate goal wise and Kane is only put with him when Colliton is desperate.Cagguila is not a high scoring top line winger.How is Kubalik going to pile up Assists with that situation?

  • February 17, 2020 at 10:24 am

    Well as much as I’m in the Bowman can go camp I’m very glad he is the GM, and not some on the site.
    Very impressed with Toews’ effort in the last few games.

  • February 17, 2020 at 10:28 am

    Tim’s knee jerk reaction to the salary cap is pretty comical.

    If Seabrook and/or de Haan are in jeopardy of playing again, that actually gives the Blackhawks enough cap space to do more next year. Albeit at the loss of a key piece on their blue line.

    Chicago can afford Lehner – they likely can’t afford both Lehner and Crawford. They need to choose one to ride with the rest of this season and next year and explore trade options with the one that isn’t in their plans beyond this season.

    The idea that the Hawks “need to move Maata,Lehner Gus,and Strome.They will need to buy out Smith” is hilarious. Buying out Smith accomplishes little/nothing and can’t be done until the summer. While I’ve advocated being open to dealing Maatta, moving him creates another issue if Tim’s previous assertion that both Seabrook and de Haan are doubtful moving forward.

    I do, however, fully agree the Blackhawks need to settle on who their four center are. If Dach’s a center, let him learn at the dot. If Strome isn’t a center, he needs to produce more than he is. I’m more on board with trading Kampf right now than Strome, however. I’m a bigger fan of having your top three centers be Toews-Dach-Strome – even if Kampf is better at the dot than Strome.

  • February 17, 2020 at 10:48 am

    If looking to next year, Kubalik obviously should be resigned, Toews, Kane and Dach aren’t going anywhere. Don’t think giving up on Debrincat is in the cards or right move, Saad under contract can give you a couple of solid line combinations. The opportunity to construct a 3rd line that plays more bad boy type hockey to compliment them is there. If that means moving on from Strome so be it. Nylander still under contract for a minimum caphit next season, if he shows enough then let him develop some more. Inhouse players like Kurashev, lost year to injury, Barrett and Teply may need time in Rfd to start next season. Shaw(health) and Cagguila rfa are possible options but unknown at this point, maybe Hagel . High 1st draft pick a possibility too, a ufa and/or trades will be needed. Entwistle quite possibly a nice upgrade on 4th line in Smiths role, as they are high on him and how he is embracing his grinder role as his path to nhl. May help on pk and fos too.

    Looking more right now that Lehner is kinda iffy for next season but that can change quick, Crawford and solid backup if not( Delia?). Gus moved and maybe depending on Dehaan health Maatta to let Mitchell play his way into lineup, the defense stays pretty much as is.

  • February 17, 2020 at 11:11 am

    Sellers, for sure.

  • February 17, 2020 at 11:24 am

    Right on Hull65……TDL will be interesting but with Stain Blowman doing it again this year it will probably suck ass. Fire this turd already and take the coaching staff and McDonut with them.

  • February 17, 2020 at 11:42 am

    Yea I have been high on Kubilik from the start. Very glad he has panned out. What a 23 goal scorer-as a green rookie, with 20 games to go.

    Yea I donot bet, but I would say not many would have thought 8 could score 25 goals. Some were even saying he was only even to Kahun/or even less a player. I know I know they are different styles.

    Unless return is massive, Kubilik is part of the young wave.

  • February 17, 2020 at 11:49 am

    Ian, good point there are a few good players coming-might not be ready fro 21 season, will be ready soon enough though and when players like 15 arnt here anymore-good timings.

  • February 17, 2020 at 12:13 pm

    Why do so many want to trade Maata? He and KooKoo have been excellent together. With Seabrook and DeHaan being questionable moving forward, it is not making sense to unload Maata.

    That said, this is a .500 team and that is probably based on the roster, not necessarily on coaching. So maybe you need to start blowing things up, but probably not this.

  • February 17, 2020 at 1:21 pm

    No,what is comical and sad is not having a reaction to the upcoming Cap issues.Also comical is the acquisition of Andrew Shaw knowing that he spent the bulk of his Montreal career in a dark room with persistent Concussion issues.Even more comical is thinking that Strome is going to be a #2 Center.Akso whimsically funny is a thought that some playoff team needs Kamph.The final hilarity is giving a monster contract to Lehner with all of these holes to fill and the Cap hell that the Hawks are facing.Yes those thoughts I find comical.

  • February 17, 2020 at 1:30 pm

    Strome,s production is not the main problem. The fact that his skating is horrible,he can’t win a faceoff,and he is soft is the problem. If anyone is considering Seabrook a top Defenseman next year after 2 hip surgeries or Dehaan a top pairing Defensemen after his 5th Shoulder surgery, that is a problem.

  • February 17, 2020 at 2:41 pm

    Maatta trade is for when were deep again. I would keep 6 if 44 doesnt come back.

    Players like 7 65 15 other arnt staying longterm, I am guessing.

    We are a much better team, even with this roster-thats without 44 7 65/cant forget that, then .500 and the coaches and team system made a big difference in record.

    Its not the total reason, its part of it though. We would have been 5 games better in the first 30 games if we had an experienced coach & team system. So think 17-10 kind of thing not 12-15. Then you take our 12-5-2 stretch where we were rolling and were a 29-17-2 team. That is the team we are with ideal coaching/team system/and players playing the way they are suppose to-not 50/50% of the time.

    Anyways people can think what they want, thats cool.

    I think the trade 6 and other players is based on Cup deep roster, like HHNL says who is here for that. 6 as a 3rd pair is not, could be if his caphit was 2 m-like LEddy and Rozy were/until cap wouldnt allow it. Then byby Leddy-Maatta and the Rozy stays for min caphit/the ideal extreme team player.

  • February 17, 2020 at 2:44 pm

    I to think 44 7 65 are retire. Maybe one of them comes back/not at start-does come back though. So the capspace is tehre-even if ltir its there.

    Really by the time we are Cup deep again/a couple yrs-young wave being ready and enough of them, these caphits that people are frightened over wont be here anymore-those contracts will be up on there own. I doubt were trading any prospect/young player to unload any because were not close right now like we were in the 29/86 trade.

  • February 17, 2020 at 2:50 pm

    Hull, I am curious-seriously in who you would want for the roster that has size and the type of players to get our roster good again/for what we need-missing.

    I think you would have some good ideas there.

  • February 17, 2020 at 4:02 pm

    MO,I like your thoughts on the expiring Contracts and potential Cap space.The conflict occurs when a G.Ms job is on the line and he has an edict to make the playoffs or else.That is where said GM goes out and trade draft picks for a Shaw or throws 8 Million for 4 years at a Lehner. Or maybe signs and hold onto a Maata takin? up a space that could be used for a fast developing Defenseman.Or ties up a spot with an expensive 3 Million dollar Zach Smith so nobody at Rockford has a shot at making the team or coming up during the year.Or maybe does not grab a top tier young player because you are waiting on Dehaan.A new G.M has to implement the next plan going forward despite what the stand pat Bowman people think.

  • February 17, 2020 at 4:10 pm

    no complaints about the effort last night – if they had played with the effort they’ve shown the last 3 games all year then they would be in a much better position

    I’d like to see them continue with these good efforts, try to win as many games as possible (even though the playoffs are realistically out of reach), trade Gus and one goalie – if they can get anyone to take Smith fine but highly unlikely

    I like Maatta but if there’s a good return I would trade him as well – one of DeHaan or Seabrook can take his roster spot next year

    Defense next year probably include Mitchell, Boquist, Keith, Murphy and KK (if he’s re-signed) leaving possibles as Seabrook, DeHaan, Seeler and Maatta if he’s not traded – that’s already a lot of D options

  • February 17, 2020 at 4:39 pm

    Wrap, Maatta is a good insurance policy if Dehaan and Seabrook have issues getting back in lineup. If they do, there is 25m caphit in 5D, with 2, 7, 5, 6, 44. With 27 a top pair paid guy, so 2 of them are 3rd pair, so with cap tight pick one that has to be moved. 2 and 7 nmc not going anywhere, 44 injured unlikely to be moved and i keep 5 over 6 easily. Nothing against Maatta just business, Mitchell be pushing for a spot and Koekkoek can keep it warm as 3rd pair guy and Seeler 7th. If ltir becomes a reality then keeping him around gets easier if season opening ltir used for capspace and roster spot open. If using ltir and you helped Coyotes out of cap hell they’re in, by taking back last year of Hossa’s contract after July 1st with a prospect, already established he won’t play next year, so off season ltir in effect and gives the ability to build a roster 10% plus his 5.25m cap over the cap and use season opening ltir, day before rather than on opening to go into season legal, and not need to be down to caphit for opening day.

  • February 17, 2020 at 6:31 pm

    Thats the only thing that doesnt help is not being able to just add-without trading or ltir 44 7 65, the type of players we need. The ones with size and centers who are better.

    Again though when some of Ians prospects are ready they could be good centers, Kurachev Barratt other. These guys could be the centers we want, no way to know for a yr/two. So it sort of doesnt matter when we do it, kind of.

    I would add a D or FW with size-that can play and one or two centers, even though we know we have some good players coming and just be that deep in those positions, then trade from strength to get Cup deep/and extra depth.

  • February 17, 2020 at 6:46 pm

    Morrison, when you lose someone like Hossa, Sharp, Teuvo, Hammer, Big Buff, Ladd, Bolland, Panarin, etc… you need to examine what these players brought to the team which made the Hawks tough to play against and made them playoff contenders each season. SPEED, SIZE, SKILL, and GRIT!
    When you have players now like Strome who cannot skate, shies away from contact at 6’3″ and is weak on the puck then you don’t have an impactful player for the regular season nor for the playoffs. We had Nick Schmaltz who is an elite skater, puck possession player who behind Toews was high on takeaways from the opponents. He was replacing Teuvo! And he had obvious chemistry with Kane. Strome could not, I repeat could not get passed the 4th line in Arizona, a bad team at the time. Funny, they have our backup in Rantta, a great defender in the HAMMER, a buzz ball buster in Vinny H, the creative Nick Schmaltz and they have more points then the HAWKS.
    So, you need players, top 6 potential players that have an all around game like a Hossa or a Sharp or a Ladd or a Buff, or a new Teuvo (not our 2nd rounder Wise) to win games when Kane or Toews are being neutralized. Remember, the HAWKS won Cups with Kane and Toews never getting 100 points in a season! Why? Depth and balance. Guys like TJ OSHIE is tough to play against, can skate, has skill and is a team player! Josh Anderson in Columbus has that potential. JT Miller in Vancouver is that type of player too! Now Jake DeBrusk in Boston! Now Hossa is a rare breed and a Hall of famer so there is no comparison. But you see what the Hawks lack. John Madden, Bolland and Kruger were our 4th line centers in our 3 cups! We have Carpenter and Kampf in the lineup at the same time??? That is a weak roster Mr. Stan! Let’s not forget the scoring ability, the grit and skill of an edgy Patrick Sharp! How many goals and points did he average per season and better yet how many did he produce in the playoffs? LADD , BIG BUFF, FROLIC, VERMETTE..there is no comparison that can me made with what we have now number 91, 92, 12, 8, 17, 64, 36, 15, 22, 95!!! Seriously, we are way below average in depth. Kane and Teows are having career years but they need support and depth because they cannot do it 82 games! And we have nothing in Rockford either!
    Bowman needs to trade assets but he has none in Rockford, nor in the NCAA nor the CHL! Lehner is the only one and Gus, well, he is a skilled offensive player…I would wit awhile unkless you get a forward prospect who is a legitimate top 6! All year Stan traded forwards to get more dmen while in the last 3 seasons he has drafted dmen in the first two rounds? Did he think Dominic Kahun would replace Panarin, Sharp or Hossa? Did he think Kubalik as well? Carpenter, Sikura, Kampf or Cagg or Nylander?Or DCat who I think can bounce back as a perimeter goal scorer but would need a better center! Bowman arrogantly laughed at teams who would try to sign Panarin? really? Well, Columbus made the playoffs while he was there and the Rangers who annouced a rebuild last season will make it back to the playoffs very soon thx to Panarin and some good drafts!
    So Morrison, you can hate my message board but Bowman has let his stars down big time. Why do the Rangers have 2 prospect goalies that they have drafted ready to take the next step! Same in Columbus, made the playoffs 3 seasons in a row, meaning drafting not in top 10, plus lose most of their star players and are not sitting in a playoff spot?
    Let’s ask Stan, the same GM who gave this coach a job! If he had some sense and less arrogance, he would fire JC and hire Laviolette immediately! Then step down as GM and work as a bad accountant for a semi pro team in Florida with his dad!

  • February 17, 2020 at 7:20 pm

    I am not/wasnt hate on your message borad at all. I am truly interested in what players you want to get rid of/trade and wat players-who you want to be on our roster/the type. Seriously I am because I think its the same kind of players Tim and others wants to bring in.

    I do not care about what Bowman or coach did/not do before. Looking ahead to fix this.

  • February 17, 2020 at 7:23 pm

    What I got so far from that post is

    Schamltz- only has speed/maybe skill
    Strome- you want traded
    Hammer type Defensemen- add that
    Ohsie/Miller type FW- good at D/tuff to play agasint
    Better 4th line players with size
    Goalie prospects

  • February 17, 2020 at 7:43 pm

    Mo forget it he doesn’t walk to talk common sense, just rants.

  • February 17, 2020 at 7:45 pm

    Miller looks a lot like Saader. Same size, 10 pounds bigger, Miller is a hair more physical and Saader is a hair faster skater. Otherwise pretty close there.

    Ohsie is small at 5-11 190, and is very fast and physical enough, good at OFF and ok at DEF. He looks like a player we could get as a ufa/maybe trade.

    Hammer- that is tuff, Haan or Murf look like similar players maybe.

    To get a player with every aspect of SPEED, SIZE, SKILL, and GRIT. We already got it. DACH.

  • February 17, 2020 at 7:47 pm

    Other then the goalie prospects, we can get what your talking about. Pretty much that same as Tim/others want.

    When it comes to Hoss. There can be only one. Who ever is lucky enough to have his grace longer then a 1/yr test drive, will get the chance at a dynasty.

  • February 17, 2020 at 7:59 pm

    Schmaltz has speed, skill and tenacious on the back check. Doesn’t shoot enough but preqt at puck possession like Kane and like cente Backstrom in Washington.
    Strome: Good hockey IQ, but slow, weak on the puck, weak on his skates becuase he gets knocked off the puck easily, has a great wrist shot. If we still had Schmaltz, he be a 2nd line center with better spped than Toews and Dach which would be an upgrade from Strome. Who’s out there to acquire? No one I can think of for the moment so we are stuck with Strome.
    Lehner is the one asset we can trade and maybe get a good return but do you think Bowman can win a hockey trade?
    He did win the Leddy for Barker trade but then of course got taken to the cleaners when Leddy ,playing as a young upcoming, fast and skilled dman on an a 3rd pairing gets traded for Pokka who could not skate and could not crack an average Islander team!
    As a 4th line you need players rthat can skate, you can draft those and develop them if you want but they need to be fast, edgy and can also score 10 goals a season. How many goals did Eager, Madden and Brouwer/Burrish score in 2010? How mqny did Kruger, Bolland and Frolic score in 2013?
    We have nothing like that on this roster!
    Include Beaudin in a trade (with either Lehner or Nylander) who at 5’10” is too small for the Hawks future on defence. Rather keep GUS!
    Wave Carpenter and Smith or trade them away for anything, a bag of pucks or a late draft pick!
    Keep 19, 88, 20, 2, 50, 7, 77, 27, 56, 8, 12, 5, 6, the rest are all up for grabs!

    More Trades?
    DaHann is injury prone so you will get nothing in return.
    Maatta or Murphy, if they get you a good winger prospect or a high draft pick, maybe but again, the problem remains this GM, Kelley, Gauthier and the coach!

  • February 17, 2020 at 11:29 pm

    I hear you on some of the trades. The Leddy trade was dynasty Cup-salary cap, had to do it/or another player that was around 2m.

    Keep 19, 88, 20, 2, 50, 7, 77, 27, 56, 8, 12, 5, 6, the rest are all up for grabs!
    Those are good players to keep-most want to trade 56. I would keep one of 44 or 6.

    We just need to add the missing players we donot have, the rest-should take care of itself with trades and contracts just go on there own-no need to tarde any asset to make happen.

  • February 17, 2020 at 11:52 pm

    Love that shot by Eags at PHI in 2010 that was the 2-0 goal, right after Hoss? scored. That powerfull and I mean powerfull snapper was a thing of beauty. One in a million shot for him.

  • February 19, 2020 at 1:02 am

    Great comments. Last summer I was critical of the trade for highly injury-prone Shaw. MTL made out like bandits. Was as if Bowman returned the favor of trading Shaw for their two 2nd round picks a few years earlier. When your system is thin on talent, like the Hawks, you cannot afford to give up decent picks.

    deHaan had three shoulder surgeries- losing trade.

    Joki for Nylander – too early to tell.

    Smith and Carpenter – fifth line quality. Agree with Hull to waive them.

    Lehner was a great signing- Hull is wrong. If Hawks don’t extend him, can be traded for decent value at tdl.

    Overall, bad offseason moves by Bowman. Hawks should be sellers but don’t let Bowman make any more trades.

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