Blackhawks Comeback Comes Up Short Against Jets

In a season where the Blackhawks have struggled at times to get the puck on net, they scored five times and lost in Winnipeg on Thursday.

Thursday night’s game in Winnipeg had it all. Crappy defense from the Blackhawks, questionable goaltending by the opponent, a bunch of goals early in all three periods by the opponent and a frustratingly close comeback come up short.

What was unique about this game was where the Blackhawks scoring came from.

Patrik Laine scored the game’s opening goal at 1:43 into the game. His 20th of the year was the first of four goals scored by the Jets in the first two minutes of a period on Thursday.

Chicago tied the game 1:20 later when Marcus Kruger scored his third of the year.

Kruger’s goal was assisted by Andreas Martinsen and Artem Anisimov, because of course.

The game would remain tied for 49 seconds. Nikolaj Ehlers scored his first of the game to give Winnipeg the lead once again.

But the Hawks came back again. A little more than four minutes after the Ehlers goal. David Kampf condifendly attacked the net and John Hayden followed the play with his second of the year.

Kampf and Erik Gustafsson picked up the assists on the Hayden goal. Connor Hellebuyck was leaving fat rebounds all night, giving the Hawks opportunities to hang around in a game that shouldn’t have been this close.

At the end of 20 minutes, the game was tied. The Hawks were out-shot 15-13 and outskated in much of the period, but were able to keep things just close enough that they could tie the game.

Remember the trend of goals early in periods we mentioned earlier?

Ehlers scored his second of the night 61 seconds into the second period. Jacob Trouba scored 45 seconds later to extend the lead to two and it started to feel alot like the wheels were falling off again.

But at 9:31 the Hawks got back into the game again. This time it was Jan Rutta rifling a shot through the glove of Hellebuyck to cut the lead in half.

Kampf picked up his second point of the night with the only assist on the Rutta goal.

The second period ended with the Hawks trailing 4-3 but they were lucky to be within one. Winnipeg out-shot the Hawks 12-5 in the middle period, a stunning number considering Winnipeg scored twice early in the period. The lack of a sense of urgency was stunning – again.

Remember the trend of goals early in periods we mentioned earlier?

Laine scored his second of the game on a power play 78 seconds into the third period, making the score 5-3.

At 9:45, Gustafsson gave a puck away in the worst way humanly possible and Ehlers went in all along on Crawford. He completed the hat trick and made the score 6-3.

It felt like we might see a seven or eight point night again at that point.

But credit needs to be given where it’s due. The Hawks didn’t fold and give up like they did against Vegas.

At 13:10 Dominik Kahun made a nice play in traffic in front of the net, catching a puck and dropping it to his stick before tapping it home for his third of the year.

Hayden was credited with the only assist on the Kahun goal, giving him a two-point night.

With a little less than three minutes remaining in regulation, Alex DeBrincat started a rush with Patrick Kane and Anisimov that ended with Anisimov making things interesting. Suddenly the scored was 6-5.

That would be the end of the offense unfortunately. Jonathan Toews got a good look in the closing minute but couldn’t convert.

Jeremy Colliton appeared to be legitimately pissed off after the game – and he should be. The ridiculous mental mistakes that happen on a nightly basis have become a habbit, which is worse than a trend.

Martinsen skated 7:37 but put three shots on net, was credited with two hits and had an assist. Kruger appeared to twist a knee in the middle of the game and was limited to 6:01 but scored a goal before he was hurt.

Hayden, Kampf and Anisimov had two points each in the loss.

Dylan Strome and Branden Perlini were the only two forwards on the Chicago roster to fail to register a shot on net.

100 thoughts on “Blackhawks Comeback Comes Up Short Against Jets

  • November 29, 2018 at 10:30 pm

    The game was entertaining for a change. They didn’t play too bad. Hayden can be a bottom six factor. If he stays in the lineup and gets to play consistently.

    On the Bowman front, I refer all to take look at the Arizona boxscore v. Nashville.

  • November 29, 2018 at 10:55 pm

    But Stan said we were a better team on Monday than we were on Sunday, because of the trade. And if we can only get to 500, then we can go on a run like Buffalo and be in the playoffs.
    Welcome to Stanley’s Spin Zone.

    Good night though for showcasing : Ruuta looks like he could help a team. Kruger might fetch a draft pick because of his Cup experience.

  • November 29, 2018 at 11:00 pm

    Strome had a goal and an assist last game so they’re even – I’m already over Nick Schmaltz – don’t miss him

    Tonight the level of stupid from the Hawks D especially rose to epic heights – I swear we play better D and a smarter game in my game with 50 and 60 year olds

    Forsling and Seabrook with brutal D zone coverage on first 2 WPG goals, Rutta and Gus with exquisite turnovers for 2 other WPG goals and Keith (with an unacceptable penalty at the start of the third) which lead to a WPG PP goal – just wow

    Can’t believe the Hawks need a 19 year old D man back in the line up to stabilize the D and maybe rescue them from their collective stupidity

    Manning somehow wasn’t that noticeable – which for him is a good thing

    And let’s not forget Toews picking up nobody as the Jets convert a 3 on 4 into a Ehlers goal – what could you possibly be thinking on that play Jonny?

    On the positive side there is some encouragement from the forward group re: secondary scoring and I thought as a group the forwards competed hard – they won the 5 v 5 battle 5 -4 but it wasn’t enough to overcome their brutal special teams and the hole that inglorious defence dug for us

    I know defence is a team resposibility but tonight the forwards (except Toews on I think the 3rd Jet goal) were Ok – most of the blame is squarely on the D men

    As Eddie O keeps saying it’s not because of Colliton’s man to man defensive scheme that the coverage is so poor and the turnovers so egregious or trying to learn his new system it’s just stupidity plain and simple

  • November 29, 2018 at 11:10 pm

    Craig – agree, and lol re Bowman comments. Anisimov showed a pulse as well. What a difference a couple years makes, Buffalo is far superior to the Hawks.

    The Hawks are falling farther and farther behind whatever playoff threshold Bowman thinks they are capable of. And even though he may end up being a decent coach at some point down the road, you don’t pluck coaches out of Europe on field trips and think you outsmarted everyone. How has Gar Forman’s obsession with Hoiberg worked out?

  • November 29, 2018 at 11:11 pm

    Interesting and Annoying Comments from Rocky Wirtz on the TV Pregame show:

    In the interview with Pat Boyle, according to Rocky, John McDonough and Jay Blunk had been working on a plan to relieve Q of his duties. They brought it to him, and he was behind them 100%.
    He said that the important thing from an organizational standpoint was that McDonough brought the idea to him, and that he didn’t have to go to McDonough first. Then he said that McDonough said the team was a playoff contender and he fully supported that.
    Bowman’s name wasn’t mentioned until later and just in passing regarding making tough decisions. McDonough was repeatedly talked about as essentially being “the guy”.

    So …. Rocky relies on McDonough to make the big personnel decisions? Again, I’ll be the broken record but what the fuck does McDonough know about professional hockey. He’s a sports marketing guy, who had a huge successful run helping a suck franchise (the Cubs, before they got good) filling the stands based on nostalgia. I’m sure he probably had a hand in having Lemonhead as a sponsor, and also helping Blackhawk TV put out some great videos. But who is running the show, and why?

    That is frustrating to me.

    Also puzzling ….. after that interview is aired, Patrick Sharp tells the guys that it’s tough to be in the upper levels of sports team management because of the tough decisions they have to make. But then Patrick, speaking for himself says, “but in this case I think they made the right decision” to get rid of Quenneville.

    Interesting. I’m surprised that as a booth guy he would let that one slip.

    Oh, and as for the game, they made a good fight of it but the defense absolutely sucks. Just awful. I love the Blackhawks but the defensive positioning and awareness has gone markedly downhill since Colliton took over IMO. The glaring turnovers aren’t there as much, but the guys with no one around them has increased dramatically. What the hell is going on?

  • November 29, 2018 at 11:44 pm

    Four goals in the first 2 minutes of all 3 periods combined. Kane,Debrincat, Strome a minus 13 as a line. With Kane and Debrincat on wings not convinced Strome has the defensive game needed to make that line work. Secondary scoring made the game close.
    Getting Jokiharju and Murphy back on blueline should help as won’t have to play 23 and 44 and hopefully be able to play the other guys less minutes and not be as tired ,so they can cut down on their sloppy play.
    They didn’t deserve to win but i’m sure the guys felt a little better effort they could’ve won, against a team like the Jets thats a good thing and something positive to take that we haven’t seen lately.
    Like to see these lines

    15 19 88
    12 17 20
    40 64 24
    11 16 29/84

    AA and Kane might have chemistry if AA playing on that line he might want to play. Saad compliments 12 and 17 as they try to find their old chemistry with his speed and defensive play, plus scoring now too.
    Kahun and Kampf look good together and Hayden played well there. Kruger and Perlini on 4th with 84 against faster teams and Martinsen against heavier playing teams.
    Tough to blame Crawford as he is pretty much hung out, but he isn’t zoned like he was a few starts ago. Sure he will bounce back though.

  • November 29, 2018 at 11:48 pm

    The “technical difficulties” gave us an opportunity to listen to the professional hockey commentary for a change.

  • November 30, 2018 at 12:01 am

    I am ok with the ufas we got last summer and this summer. Its what could get us another top 3 pick. Which well be better off to get for when were deep in 2yrs.

    Ths stuff Big Indian is talking about better be fixed by then, until then if it betters our high end elite pick. That’s the best thing that could happen.

    Beat the top 10/15 teams when we play good and lose to the bottom 10 teams.

  • November 30, 2018 at 1:30 am

    I really hope they’re playing for the lottery pick – it would be extremely annoying if all this was for anything less… (Think Jack Hughes will like Chicago?)

  • November 30, 2018 at 2:21 am

    A lot of d-zone breakdowns again so every other comment takes a backseat to that 800lb gorilla in the room. Not going to right the ship until that gets fixed.

    Happy to see Colliton get pissed off. Now let’s hope he has the guts to direct it in the correct direction.

  • November 30, 2018 at 4:04 am

    First of all, last night was once again proof that Forsling and company just cannot play defernce. 42,44, 56 (too light)and 23(too slow) were awful and some still blame Keith for a bad penalty or Seabs? Those giveways were ECHL like!!!
    If I were Keith I would slash one of his dmen instead. And let’s be clear, as we all saw last night, Strome is not a top 9 forward, he just can’t skate, which makes him a career AHLer. BIG LOSS ONCE AGAIN ON THAT TRADE. Thx Stan.
    We are talking about AA being faster than Strome. Nick Schmaltz has way more game than any of those two at center, he can fly, a great playmaker, backchecker and had chemistry with Kane. So what he was 40% on faceoffs? REALLY?
    This is why Bowman cannot be left rebuilding a team because he has no clue. And McDonough and Wirtz are slowly becoming Pulford and Bill Wirtz. And we all remember those dark ages. When I heard Bowman say we got to NHL bodies back for Schmaltz, that is dark ages stuff. JC had to bench Strome to stop embarassing him. He wanted to get rid of Hossa’s contract to get more cap space? So we loss Vinny (40 points), but sign Ward, Kunitz and Manning? Let go Duclair, Vinny and Schmaltz?
    Perlini and Strome don’t make jets lineup. Maybe Perlini 4th line but Strome not a chance. Schmaltz, YES!
    Fire Stan Bowman and Family!
    Fire McDonut! Jerk
    Bring in Bill ZITO has GM!
    Edzo as president!
    Keep Wirtz away from team.

  • November 30, 2018 at 4:07 am

    Hey Stan, first star last night in Nashville, first line center Nick Schmaltz #8!!!
    As Mel Allen would have said, ” How about that”.

  • November 30, 2018 at 4:15 am

    Oh, and hiring a 2 Div. Swedish league coach to make himself look like a genuis is once again that Bowman nerdy arrogance that he has shown through his GM career. Now, he can tell JC who he wants to play and where. His dad is telling him stuff like time to trade KANE? Watch out, this is going to get real ugly and set us back another 20 years.
    Kane is only 30!
    Love these Nick Schmaltz highlights by the way from last night, he can fly!!! And he has size. And he has Kane’s clone in Keller on the wing. WOW!!! Scary!
    Dylan who?

  • November 30, 2018 at 4:35 am

    Question: With a goal down and less than a minute to go in the game, will we ever see Strome as the extra skater or will he be the extra body on the bench watching?

    Bowman’s answer: Extra NHL body on the bench.
    oh, Nick Schmaltz for sure on the ice but not #17. Sorry fans.

    Thx Mr. GM

  • November 30, 2018 at 4:39 am

    I’m taking the 5th

  • November 30, 2018 at 6:51 am

    The best part of last night’s game was the loss of the Chicago feed. The Winnipeg announcers were professionals. There was no clowning,’ Country Club name dropping, or “Tree turdy tree in da turd”! That was refreshing, I hope we lose the local feed for every game. As for Patrick Sharp as an analyst, it looks like he is trying to out stupid Adam Burish. Good effort Sharpie, but you’ve got a long way to go. And the game?….well, the Hawks are awful! What else is new?

  • November 30, 2018 at 7:17 am

    Everyone needs to chill on judging this trade with Strome and Schmaltz. They have the same amount of points in the same amount of games right now. Sure Strome doesn’t have blazing speed, but he doesn’t need it, he just needs to keep up with the play. He almost already does that, he needs some speed work but his shooting and passing ability along with hockey smarts are all at a high level already.

    Another top pick who couldn’t skate was John Tavares, I am not completey positive at what age he broke out and turned into a stud, but I know that till he was at least 22 or 23 he couldn’t skate at all. Now if Strome can turn it on and learn over a few years to keep up he can be great. I’m not saying he’s John Tavares, but it’s not the end of the world if he’s not the greatest skater. And he doesn’t have to be super fast with all the speed up front supporting him.

  • November 30, 2018 at 7:45 am

    As this team spirals down into the depths of the cellar, you will begin to hear that the vets with the big contracts will start to waive their “no trade” clauses. They do NOT want to be part of this dumpster fire.

    The problem that we have, as fans, is that the people that are in charge don’t have a clue as to how to build a team from scratch and get it right. McDonough, Bowman, Colliton and the rest of this team ALL have that “deer in the headlights” look on their faces because they have no clue as to what to do with this club.

    Boys, this team is in TROUBLE! Winnipeg played down to the Hawks, last night. Don’t let the score fool you. Winnipeg pulled back 3 times in the game and let the Hawks back in, that’s not going to happen with their regular line up. They have a lot of players out with injuries.

    The Nashville game is going to be ugly!! We have NO physical game to speak of and the Preds just got shutout at home by the Coyotes. They will NOT be happy.
    The Hawks are going to be skated and checked right out of Nashville.

    On a lighter note, when Colliton wears those glasses all he needs is a red striped hat and he could be the “where’s Waldo” guy.

    This team is horrible and it’s not even December.

    Have a great weekend boys!!

  • November 30, 2018 at 8:45 am

    Good A.M. Tab:

    Morin is at my office, I will send him over to Hull65’s place to hug him.

  • November 30, 2018 at 8:56 am

    Even if that game was 6-3, like the others that were 4-2/8-3
    That’s ok, when were 1 of 2 best teams every yr from 2009-2016 we beat them 6-3/those kind of scores, when they were half decent.

  • November 30, 2018 at 8:56 am

    First of all everyone take a step back from the ledge, this team is exactly what we knew it would be. Weak defense, older veterans starting to regress, a GM that nobody has faith in with youngsters mixed throughout. there will be games that give hope and there will be games where all looks lost, and this will be a long frustrating season for sure. Please hold your judgement on the new guys and give them some time because I see more effort from them than most of the veterans. When you see veteran players not giving effort it’s because they don’t care anymore and we have a few on this team.

  • November 30, 2018 at 9:07 am

    I tend to be a glass “half-empty” person but when I read Hull’s comments I feel like the biggest optimist in the world! I watched part of the last 2 AZ games and Schmalz was Schmalz. He had nothing to do with their win against the Wild and he had a nice goal last night by taking a shot he would never take with us. Let’s take a deep breath and give it some time before we make definitive statements on the trade. Also, I watched the whole game with the Winnipeg feed and it was very enjoyable – very fair and professional announcing team.

  • November 30, 2018 at 9:10 am

    We have a lot of pieces already to rebuild, while keeping 19/88/etc.
    We better get the right/good people in place to make this happen/finnish the rebuild.
    I donot want to waste what we all went through already and rest of this yr, and not load back up.

  • November 30, 2018 at 9:40 am

    Hey Tab, great work!!!
    Just having some fun with the Bowman family joke circus.
    Anyone comparing John Tavares skating when he came into the league vs Strome skating when he entered the league, may need JC’s glasses.
    Tavares is a good, shifty skater with also lots of savy and skill on ice. Strome is a poor skater who after a 15 slowfooted excelleration, well he is done. His shift is over, no gas. 200footgame is what Nick can also do because he can skate back and chase down the JETS #55 for example or anyone of those skaters in Winnipeg. He was benched the last 8 minutes of the 2nd period. We had to see AA again!
    Kane, Toews and the rest do not have time for an experiment, a player who needs skating or cooking lessons in the summer. We had our 2nd line center, top 6 forward in Schmaltz and BOWMAN was just a fool as usual. Can you imagine Strome playing in OT??? Never….Schmaltz can because he can skate. Stop the 200footgame denile, Bowman screwed another trade and Perlini is a simply a good 3rd line winger. An extra body as the GM says. Keller is like Kane on right wing for Schmaltz!!! Did you all see that great pass by #8? Of course you did and so did Kane today at home as he was texting his buddy! Nice pass by Vinny as well!
    Love the BOWMAN CIRCUS!
    I guess no one had the guts to ask JC why he benched number 17 and then used him on the 4th line? Too bad.
    Also too bad, Zito might join Flyers which means Q arriving soon. Carter Hart, who the HAwks did not need to draft because they have the Belgium soccer goalie Peters, will give Zito a chance for success.
    Fun times

  • November 30, 2018 at 9:54 am

    Hull65 do you watch hockey at all, do you follow the game or understand it one bit. Watch any of John Tavares in his first couple seasons, he looked like Bambi on ice, he would get points by staying in one spot and firing shots on net and making smart hockey plays. He didn’t become a good skater till 22 or 23. Right now he can move, but Schmaltz has been and was underperforming to hell with all the opportunities he had with Kane to start the season. Also have heard he’s lazy off ice, and you could see in the games we were losing that he wasn’t putting in full effort.

    Just cause its Bowman making a trade doesn’t mean its bad. He’s made way more bad moves than good, but I can tell you are just out to criticize everything he does even if he did turn Hartman into a top 4 d prospect and a possible 3rd or 4th liner like Hartman was.

    And watching the Winnipeg game, the issue on most of the Jets goals wasn’t a lack of backcheck but bad penalties by 2 and awful Defensive coverage out front by 2, 7, 44, and 42 on most goals. The minus 4 stat line is easy to put all as Stromes fault if you just want to blindly hate on a player just cause Bowman traded for him.

  • November 30, 2018 at 10:24 am

    I hear you 200 but the reason Strome got demoted to the fourth line is that his line gave up a goal where it was 3 Jets on our 2 defensemen. Strome was trying to get back as the 3rd defensive player as the center should, but he did not have enough speed to catch up to the play. He got caught deep in the offensive zone when we gave up possession, and couldn’t get back. When he went deep he should have recognized Kane and Dcat were already on the goal line extended and he should have remained higher in the offensive zone, especially with his lack of speed.

    I am a bit more objective than Hull65 when it comes to Bowman but I have to say I agree with those observations on the trade and Strome. Justifying Strome’s potential because Tavares is in the league and successful and not fast is a strawman’s argument at it’s finest. Strome is NOT Tavares on many, many levels.

  • November 30, 2018 at 10:39 am

    Hereismike well said, that was my reasons for suggesting Saad as a 2way support with Strome and Debrincat and see what they can do together. This is the season to get them going and see if they are a future combo together. I was a Schmaltz fan but that has no bearing now on what these guys do, nor does trashing Schmaltz to defend them either, it’s a moot point now.

    Also if AA shows some interest playing with Toews and Kane it might raise his trade value a bit and spark them a bit too, both playing with familiar linemates.

  • November 30, 2018 at 10:53 am

    I don’t know enough about Strome and Perlini to know if this is good trade, but Schmaltz is way too soft and would have been a bad investment if he thought he was getting a new deal for big bucks.

    I am confused by the angst from our fans. The slide has been on for awhile now. If at first you didn’t believe it the playoff blowout vs the Preds 2 years ago should have put a stamp on it. And since then the decline has only accelerated. We were the second worst team in the league in the second half last year — did people miss that? And the biggest moves in the off season were a signing (Manning) that caused the Philly fans to rejoice getting rid of the guy, and signing another guy (Gus) whose defense wouldn’t hold up in the ECHL.

    How can anyone be surprised?

  • November 30, 2018 at 11:53 am

    Basically some things Rocky said in his interview seem to indicate McDounut’s plan was to remove Q as coach, and that probably included signing the worst possible crop of free agents they could this last off season to guarantee that he would not succeed this year. But hey, he was .500 with this group, and look at the shit show it has turned into already.

    Really could you have picked any worse FA’s to sign than Manning, Kunitz, and Ward?

    Look at what Carter Hutton is doing for Buffalo. And he was in the Hawks organization for years, you would think they would have had a better read on him. Manning was a 3rd pairing guy for a Philly team that didn’t make the playoffs, and the general thought from Philly was good riddance. They did not even try to keep him. Kunitz, good lord he would have retired this year if the Hawks had not signed him.

    I think the angst everyone feels is that the ship is being steered by management for the Niagara Falls. Things seem to keep getting worse and not better, and that includes the coaching, the player depth, etc. The rate it seems to be getting worse is increasing, and that has us concerned that some of the guys we want to keep (Kane, Crow, Keith, Toews) may just say ‘hey, I want out’ before someone competent even gets a chance to sign Panarin or Stone, or make some other move to help this offseason.

  • November 30, 2018 at 12:06 pm

    All Hawks fans have an investment in the team – it’s the cost of being a “fan”. Some level of emotional investment which translates into a time investment and for some a financial investment. That investment gives us a feeling of ownership and as owners we don’t want to lose what’s ours so we avoid reality when it doesn’t fit with our hopes and dreams.

    Reality is telling us the glory days are over. Hopes and dreams for another run at the Cup with Toews and Kane are not totally unrealistic – but they’re more hope than reality.

    Lot’s of good hockey and 3 Cups in the last 10 years. I’m thankful.

  • November 30, 2018 at 12:18 pm

    I see where all of you are coming from and you make some great points. I know that Strome will never be close to Tavares, I was just trying to make a point that not being an exceptional skater as a young player doesn’t mean they cannot eventually be an impact player in the league and be a top 6 forward one day. Just trying to defend the trade a bit because I think it was a good move. Also its 2 games since the trade so no one should be saying whether it was a good or bad move as of right now.

    It is a risk for sure, Schmaltz put up 52 points, but Strome still has the potential to be an elite center if his SAQ increases and he uses his mind more to make up for not being a speedster. I guess we will see in the future.

  • November 30, 2018 at 12:21 pm

    ER– well said, and lot’s of truth in there…

    that is why my attention- is on Jrs. right now- really lot’s to like there…

    and next year’s (hopefully top 5 pick)

    and $$$ they use on UFA

    The above– is ONLY chance Hawks win/Cup run in near future…
    Kane is only guy- capable of performing at same past rate… Toews has improved this year versus last few… but – 19- Is no longer the BEAST he was

    So reality- like ER mentioned– is it’s Not gonna happen with 19/88 group…

    UNLESS- Hawks HIT big on Draft 2019, UFA 2019, and 2-4 kids in Jrs. can make Major impacts — ASAP… I love Kurashev/Mitchell/Beaudin… are they gonna make impacts as soon as next year??? that’s a lot to ask

    Like – Entwhistle/Barratt- how soon/good are they???

    Can Hagel- be the next Shaw???

  • November 30, 2018 at 12:24 pm

    Mike I’m just trying to make an argument for Strome and let people know not to write him off just because of his lack of foot speed. There have been plenty other players who have came in as young rookies and couldnt skate well, Tavares was just off the top of my head due to his success recently. He took almost every summer after being drafted to work on his speed till he was a good skater. Strome has been and will continue to work on his skating, he has the rest of the tools needed to succeed. Players like JVR, Spezza, and even a guy like Kopitar were not very good skaters till their mid/early 20’s. I’m not saying Strome will be as good as any of those players will be, but we shouldn’t write him off after 2 games as a 21 year old.

  • November 30, 2018 at 12:25 pm

    Can Khalil Mack skate?

  • November 30, 2018 at 12:29 pm

    big indian is on the money

    the only thing worse than someone in charge who has no expertise is someone in charge with no expertise who thinks he has expertise: that would be McD starring as the lone ranger with his little dog toto, aka Blunk, who also has zero hockey expertise.

    doesn’t sound remotely possible given RW statements in the interview, but the highest priority for me if I had the large challenge that the hawks present now, would be to cut out the cancer that is managing the team.

    the exit comments of nick schmaltz were quite telling in terms of how hard it is to play for this team now with everyone pulling in different directions and everyone looking for someone else to blame: that wasn’t the “room” chemistry in the quality 10 year run and we need to get back to better “room” chemistry before we ever get to quality hockey chemistry. McD is not the man to lead that task.

    thru thick and thin I shall remain, forever a blackhawk fan

  • November 30, 2018 at 12:56 pm

    I’m with ER and his re-cap-
    relax, this isn’t a playoff team and players are trying to settle in–they have lots of work to do, and it won’t be nice on many nights- and remember not many teams/fans have had it better in the last 10 years-take a breath and enjoy

    As Wall said the focus should be on the youth-can the ones on the team contribute to the future and can the prospects get better?
    After seeing the Leafs play lately (without Nylander) shows the distance – skill and speed wise between an up and coming team and a team on the other end needing to find a better direction.

  • November 30, 2018 at 1:03 pm

    Please 200, I played hockey all my life and still do, my midget teammate being Benoit Hogue? Scotty knows him, as for Stan…forget that, he does know him for sure.
    You still want to talk John Tavares? Slow like Strome at 22…Right which explains why Strome could never crack a super weak Arizona lineup at centre all these years and Tavares lit it up right away. He is a much faster skater and technically more agile o than Strome. Too funny. I don’t hate the guy but he will never be a top 6 or top 9 in the league unless everyone on the HAWKS roster gets traded but him and THE CAT! The GM that traded for him is just a fool, even you just admitted that.

    Anyways, Edmonton just picked up a former ex-2nd round pick off waivers from Carolina who can skate and scored 33 goals last year in AHL.
    I think JC should start Ward next game to hopefully find another desperate GM like Peter Chiarelli to take him in a trade for a pick. Let Forsberg be the back up. What is Bowman waiting for to unload that contract and AA’s contract? Make Murphy play a few games and before he gets to -10, trade him to free up more cap space. Then, fire the GM to get a real hockey mind for a quick rebuild like Don Sweeney did in Boston. There’s a plan, Stan.
    Bowman hangs on to guys like Bickell and Anisimov with dumb contracts too long and then turns around and trades Teuvo and Schmaltz.
    Again, he has no vision.

  • November 30, 2018 at 1:27 pm

    Wall in a couple of years Toews will be a checking center and needs replaced. Can Strome do it not likely, could Schmaltz have done it not likely either. Hopefully the answer to that question comes as a top draft pick in June.
    If the 2 bodies for Schmaltz end up filling a need for a few years and a Nylander type situation is avoided then i can live with it. Don’t see how not moving 7 at some point in next couple of years isn’t in the picture. 88 still going strong, 2 also in a reduced fashion and maybe 50 can still play a role for awhile yet. The road ahead isn’t anywhere near as bleak as some paint it.

  • November 30, 2018 at 2:29 pm

    For those (@Hull) who are lamenting Bowman holding on to Anisimov (and others) and wondering why they are not being traded, riddle me this: Who is seeking them? A trade requires a willing partner to execute. I’m not sure how Bowman convinces a team to take Anisimov off his hands without giving up something more attractive to accomplish it (i.e. Teuvo/Bickell.) So which fictitious team is inquiring about Anisimov that isn’t looking for a sweetener to complete the deal? If Bowman is ignoring offers for Anisimov, then sure I will say he is being negligent. But I can’t find one credible source that indicates ANYONE is interested in taking Anismov…

  • November 30, 2018 at 2:38 pm

    Looks like they should have taken the 3rd rounder from columbus when they had the chance……

  • November 30, 2018 at 3:21 pm

    Good point Miroslav. I thought his contract was up earlier, but OMG we are stuck with this barge for another 2+ years unless we can dress him up and sell him at the TDL or, as you say, pay someone to take him. Drafting and developing players (TT, Johns) so you can use them later as bait to get out of bad contracts isn’t exactly a formula for success. LMAO, it’s worse than I thought and I’ve been pessimistic for awhile now.

  • November 30, 2018 at 4:41 pm

    Bowman’s problem remains building a club. Now if Coach Q according to him and the organization was the cause of this slump early on than how can Wirtz and the front office not look at the GM’s performance the last 3 years with free agents? Especially this year when Bowman was happy about all the CAP SPACE he created. Then he puts coach Q under the bus saying all these players were for his coach. Sorry, but that is no class. Thus, every player and every coach is under scrutiny so why even after all the bad trades, bad free agent signings, no wingers drafted in top two rounds the past 2 years (BRADYB TKACHUK), and the last trade does he get a pass.
    I am hoping the Vets stay and tough it out one more year to see how high the draft pick and hopefully, after missing the playoffs, Wirtz gets new blood and fires MCDO and BOWMAN to hire a young sought after GM to give those vets one more crack at it. Toews and Crosby are still just 30!
    Go Hawks!

  • November 30, 2018 at 5:07 pm

    We have to rebuild, not tweak. Best way is to trade Cro, Keith, and Anisimov for picks and prospects at trade deadline.

    That said, the goal now should not be to win games, but to use guys wisely to make them look better, so they fetch more in a trade. Get Anisimov scoring.

  • November 30, 2018 at 5:10 pm

    Hull said “I am hoping the Vets stay and tough it out one more year…”

    If that happens, next year Hull will rip Bowman for holding onto the core too long.

  • November 30, 2018 at 5:28 pm

    Despite my disdain of the putrid defensive play of this club, I do like the fight and effort that some of the young guys show. And I think even in defeat, last night’s third period showed good grit from guys like Kahun, Kampf, Strome ….. and the one who always gives it maximum effort whether successful or not, John Hayden. I realize it was a banged up Winnipeg bunch, but I liked the fire of those young guys not phoning it in, and actually maybe inspiring some older guys to play a little bit more inspired.

    The putrid defense has to be fixed. As with goaltending (and as Eddie O would say, without goaltending you got no chance!) without better defensive awareness this team has no chance! And that goes for pretty much every time they step on the ice.

    But, if these guys can get their heads out of their collective keesters and shore up the defense, and these younger guys can show the fight that they have, at least there can be some entertaining hockey to watch. Maybe not a ton of wins, but maybe a bunch of chances with guys getting better. That’s going to be my hope.

    I will not hold out hope for McDonough rebuilding the franchise into a winner. Signs point to Bowman being somewhat lame duck. Rocky talks about needing to keep emotion out of it. That lack of emotion needs to be bringing in good, solid hockey people to run personnel affairs.

    I have to admit, even though I really like Foley and Edzo, I kind of enjoyed that Canadian feed. Those announcers were top notch.

  • November 30, 2018 at 6:23 pm

    I don’t believe that a full rebuild is going to happen at least not for a few more years. Moving franchise type players to another team and going out and finding replacements of that calibur immediately in the draft and free agency is not an exact science, nor does actually happen. Unless its baseball and no salary cap that actually is one and you buy them. Toews, Keith, and Kane being on a roster is exceptional not a curse for christ sakes. Are they a decade older yes but they are still the capable of stepping up when the situation requires it.
    Look at the Isles , Oilers, Habs, of late 70s. The Avs, Devils, and Wings of late 90s early 2000s. Kings are on a downslide. The Pens won in 90 and 91 then afain in 09 then 7 years in between before last 2. 3 in 9 or 3 in 6 take your pick their trending down. Making another run with these guys may be the last chance at a cup for awhile. As completely rebuilding in a year or 2 is a myth. A decade or 2 is more of a reality if they go that route.

  • November 30, 2018 at 7:07 pm

    Wall, pretty much most and prob everyone of those things happen. Still take a yr after they play first rookie games to be good. That’s the 2yr thing.

    Were going to get good fast, need that top 5 player though as part of it.
    It wil be a huge roster turnover and sign good ufa players, not these tank ufas. Which now looks more like a plan then, these guys are good and can make current roster players playoff team. I mean if they did play like the first 10 games, could make playoffs but the good thing happened and were better/much better to get another top pick like BoQ.

    I think 19 and 88 are here and part of when were deep again.
    They might be the only two, 20 could be to.

  • November 30, 2018 at 7:13 pm

    Nothing against anyone, I would keep

    19/88/2/50/20 and go with young wave coming and sign a high end ufa and other good ones to.

    I think Ians right, theres no need for a full/rebuild trading everyone because you can always do that later. Your not getting as much in return as you ‘want’ by trading them now, so why. To punish them for playing bad, when our roster isint deep because of certain reasons. Maybe 50 when contract yr, then he comes back for lower caphit.

  • November 30, 2018 at 7:30 pm

    Boqvist is out with flu tonight if anybodys wondering why he is a scratch.

  • November 30, 2018 at 7:46 pm

    Ian I never said it was a two year rebuild. But always better to cash in assets earlier rather than later.

    This roster is too thin, in my opinion, to expect a quick turnaround with a few free agents and youngsters coming up early. 2 and 7 are clearly in decline. 19 better this year but not what he was.

    In short, they don’t have the horses for another cup run anytime soon because of the diminished talent level.

    Better to gut it while you have something to trade in.

    The Chicago White Sox tried for years to compete by piecemealing in free agents. Didn’t ever work. They finally bit the bulllet and traded top assets for prospects, and now have a strong group of young guys coming soon. A true new core is forming.

  • November 30, 2018 at 8:38 pm

    We are still talking about Bickell’s contract????? He deserved it! Even when he was ill he still played “okay” he was a factor in the 2015 cup. The guy was sick! Had he not been sick maybe he would part of the core. Guys like Bickell are hard to come by. How many are there in the league? The big mistake was trading Teuvo and him for so little in return. The Blackhawks deserved better. Hell they should have tried trading Teuvo straight up for something instead; I feel that alone would have yielded a higher return;

  • November 30, 2018 at 9:03 pm

    Yea, that was bullshit.

    How good was NAS when there Four D guys were in 2nd yr.
    2 yrs is based on high elite ufa, top 5 pick and tank ufas out and good ufas in along with young wave being ready/getting established while 19 and 88 are still as good as they are. 20 and 50 could still be as good to.

    When we have a deep roster 19 and 88 will play better and stand out. Not need to carry like now. Big difference.
    Young wave will get better each yr/and be starting prime yrs.

    Were not getting ‘that’ much more for every core guy we got by trading now then a couple yrs from now. Its not worth it. Trade whoever but keep certain core guys.

  • November 30, 2018 at 9:15 pm

    Mr. Kimball i understand your point, but usually rebuilds are long and painful. As far as a new core emerging i don’t see any Toews or Kanes on the horizon yet. No true Hossa replacement yet, Crawfords replacement is mia as yet. The defence looks promising but the jury is yet to come in. Sooner or later your going to have 1st round pick or two flop, so what you suggest is not easily accomplished as saying do it and it happens by any stretch. I am convinced another run with this core with a combination of prospects and acquired veterans to bolster them is on the agenda before any house cleaning happens. Besides i don’t likely have 20 years left to wait for the rebuild to be complete.

  • November 30, 2018 at 9:35 pm

    Mr Kimball…. Totally agree with you about the rebuild.
    You have common sense, which is refreshing.

  • November 30, 2018 at 9:37 pm

    Ian your argument is logical, and you make alot of good points on this forum.

    So: if you were GM, what would you do this year and next? Tell me your moves.

  • November 30, 2018 at 9:59 pm

    Ian-come on, rebuilds or whatever you call it don’t take 20 years-but the dog chasing it’s tail like Detroit did after their Cups could set a team back for 10 to 15.

    I can’t believe the blinders on as to how close this team is to being a legitimate force in the league. There is a ranking in one of the local major papers in order from 1 to 31 every week. Chicago as been in the bottom 2 to 5 in several of the weeks lately. Other people, without blinders get it! It wasn’t long ago that they were in the top 10 whether they deserved it or not. They aren’t close and it could get worse before it gets better.

    They are caught in a pretty bad bind-5 players, not getting any younger, making 40 million (not including AA) which = half the cap next year. The Leafs have a similar bind but their 40+ million is on the up-swing. Will they get the Cups like the Hawks? Who knows, odds are no— But IT WON’T be the Hawks in the next 2 to 4 years.
    (You get that right?)

    What we agree on is that the next two years are pivotal–we just disagree on what should be done.

  • November 30, 2018 at 11:17 pm

    Noonan give me examples of teams that gutted after winning multi cups and got back in less. Going to draft with high pick or picks and saying this is Toews and Kanes replacements doesn’t mean by a long stretch they will replace Toews and Kane. They may be very good players not just duds but don’t bring what have brought to this team. So it can turn into trying a few times over a number years to find them.

    There is some very promising young defence but will they bring what Keith, Seabrook and Hammer brought for years, i sure hope so.

    What would i do, use this season to decide who is going to come back next year off this roster. Those who aren’t move who you can. Go to the draft get who they want, quite possibly a center with the number available and expected to go high in 1st round.

    Assess the young D as too who will with team next year and if get a good feeling that with a full year to develop and maybe a key deadline acquisition they be ready for a playoff run. Then sign a high end Free agent maybe a Panarin. Look to teams like Leafs or Bolts who need too shed cap and try to trade for another top 9 forward and possibly 4th line help that is not a under long term so extending Debrincat and defence other rfas won’t be an issue. Moving AA should be close giving the cap room needed. Deadline forward could happen too next season.

    Try to use AA and/ or some young D that aren’t in future plans to get a 2nd round pick and hope to get goalie Spensor Knight. Thats my wish list and go for it next year.

  • November 30, 2018 at 11:41 pm

    Hull, I don’t think Strome is anywhere close to Tavares, but he could turn into a top 6 forward. Also how could we have possibly drafted Tkachuk, you can’t put that on Bowman he was taken at 4, we got Boq at 8!! The NHL has obviously changed over the past few years with size mixed with speed.

    Ian I also agree with a move for Spence Knight, kid looks like the real deal. I do think that they can turn around quicker than most think especially if we add Hughes and Panarin in one summer along with maybe a solid dman in free agency.

    I don agree with everything Bowman does but JC is mixing size with speed. I would like to see 20 with Strome and 12. He has 19 with 20 and 11 as of last game (size with 20 speed with 11) 12-17-88(size with 17 speed with both wingers) and the best line has been 24-64-40/15(size with 40/15 and speed with 24) thought the hawks should dump 15.

    We won’t get a replacement for Toews unless we draft one, Ian’s right about both 17 and Schmaltz neither will be #1 centers.
    We get one through the draft or we get lucky like the leafs with 91 in free agency.

  • December 1, 2018 at 12:15 am

    Some really good arguments here. I’m on board for rebuilding. I am optimistic with the drafting of Boqvist, Beaudin, Mitchell, Jokiharju, and perhaps even Krys.

    The trade of Hjalmarsson, who at the time was a top pairing defenseman and on the same day trading Panerin, who was a top scoring winner, was an absolute killer for a team whose depth was already eroding.

    Those two trades put this franchise where it is today. Those are the facts.

    So going forward and trying to fix it, must be done the Theo Epstein way, draft and develop. The good news is we are doing that on the back end first. Now dominate the 2019 draft with two blue chip forwards in the top 35 and go from there to July 1 and hit a home run on UFA day.
    Can it be done ? Very possible.

  • December 1, 2018 at 3:11 am

    I agree with Ian, 20, 19, 88, 2, 50 and 7 should stay. 19 &88 are still just 30 years of age. Crow can play 2 more for sure. They are not the problem. Build with size, speed and scoring, draft on the wings which Bowman could have started to do this past draft or last. Two of those smallish dmen could have been drafted could have been wingers instead.
    Trade AA and Murphy at the trading dateline to get more picks to clear space and maybe bring back Panarin but defintely an impact forward and maybe a solid 3dman who actually is a 3-4 dman on a good team!!! NOT MANNING, FRANSON, DAVIDSON.
    And by the way, this is not about winning the CUP but putting a great product on the ice for the fans and have a playoff team competing.
    But do all this by firing the Bowmans at the end of the season and keep MCDO away from hockey.
    And forget about Strome, we also need a 2nd line centre who can skate with Kane. We had him #8.
    CAPS ; Kusnestov, Backstrom, Eller, Burokowsky (WOW)

  • December 1, 2018 at 5:15 am

    The failure of this season with this roster that Bowman gave us was to actually believe , coaches too, that they could make the playoffs. All I was looking forward to was watching Kane and Schmaltz together continue to grow as a duo (#8 at center 52points) and see Toews and SAAD as a duo. The rest is on the GM to find or rebuild on the fly.

  • December 1, 2018 at 7:20 am

    Ian they won those three Cups because 2, 88 and 19–and Hossa came together at the right time-you’re using your argument on both sides-
    Hossa gone, Keith declining and 88 and 19 can’t lead this team by sheer will to another Cup(s) and their prime days are gone or close to going.

    Things have to ‘come together just right to do it, that is win Cups-I, and it’s only ***my opinion ***, don’t see the ingredients to beat the best teams in the next 1, 2 or 3 years-so do it right-if it’s your way-great as we agree on getting blue chip prospects the next two years. In three years when they might (Might!) be ready –Kane and Toews will be 33 and Crow will be turning 37

  • December 1, 2018 at 9:54 am

    When it comes to trading a player so were not ‘stuck’ with the caphit anymore. Whay until were using ot. Say we are going to use all of it or a lot if it, ok.
    29-had injury and we wanted to use all cap space/we had deep roster.
    15-we can wait 2 yrs because we wont be deep again until 2 yrs, donot trade any prospect/player.
    7-yes contract yrs are past next 2 yrs, that’s the one we could do a 81 type trade.

  • December 1, 2018 at 10:10 am

    That’s what I donot want is for 19 and 88 to waste their 2nd 10 yrs of career like DET did with 40 and 13 with a complete rebuild team, so they leave to Russia for self respect.

    After 19 and 88 are 40 and retired, in their own fashion and on their won terms, then ok. They are the top Blackhawks in history they deserve it. We should do whatever it takes to get good teams/deep rosters as many yrs as we can until their 40. Its all bout them. An I mean tank a couple yrs like were doing and add two top 3/5 picks type/quality players and load back up, not bleed like the Red coats did.

  • December 1, 2018 at 10:18 am

    Noonan agree there is no perfect solution. I did say though in a prior post that the core though aging is still capable of stepping up to the occasion if bolstered by a good group of prospects and veterans. That us why i believe they go for it sooner than later.

    Prospects last night.
    Barrett 1g 1a
    Olofsson 1g 1a
    Krys 1g
    Starrett 1g
    Shea 2a

    Hagel 1g 2a
    Beaudin 1a

  • December 1, 2018 at 10:21 am

    When I look at it I think, what did we have in 13-15 and donot now.
    And I donot mean the guys we add in summer and deadline.
    We add those kind/quality players same way.
    We added 91/23 summer ufa and 80 deadline add, so add the same to our roster.

    So then who is missing.
    81/4/top4 D is who is missing. (10 and a 65 is needed to)

    We have those players back, were a top 5 team again.
    And I mean where they were at in their careers then, not now.

  • December 1, 2018 at 10:33 am

    Craig, yes yes.

  • December 1, 2018 at 10:34 am

    I finally saw the Tom Wilson dirty play and read the NHL will take no supplementary action. I wrote this on another blog and copied it here.

    The NHL once again shows its hypocrisy on caring about player safety.

    The standard of intent is misapplied. The standard should not be “intent to injure” – it should be “intent to not injure”. This standard is applied for goalie interference – did the player making contact with the goalie “try to avoid” contact. That standard should be applied on all hits outside the bounds of normal hockey plays and it should be applied more harshly for repeat offenders.

    In the case of Wilson’s latest dirty hit – it shouldn’t be trying to give him the benefit of the doubt because discerning whether he intended to hurt the other player is subjective – it should be did he try to do what he could to avoid hurting the other player and that answer is unequivocally “no”. Factor in that he is a repeat offender and he should be suspended long enough that maybe it finally gets through to him to the point where he stops doing those dirty plays.

    Lest I be misunderstood – I don’t mean things like finishing checks should be eliminated – those are normal hockey plays – I mean plays that are penalties – i.e. outside the bounds of normal hockey plays. If it is a penalty and the player didn’t try to avoid hurting the player – then the player should be suspended.

    The league and the Player’s Association should both want this. The PA should care less about the rights of the perpetrator and more about the health of the victim

  • December 1, 2018 at 10:41 am

    I saw Krys on TV yesterday vs. Boston College-he can run a power play, that’s for sure.
    Any indication which Hawks will get a chance to make WJC?

  • December 1, 2018 at 10:46 am

    World Juniors is going to be for us/we have good players coming.

    19/88/20 will be young enough, no matter how many yrs its takes to get deep.
    So will we be too good to add 8 or even 6 blue chips, beause the wave is coming and high end elite ufa and normal good ufas is to. Not sure if we ll be bad enough to get 6 (which would be top 5 and 35 pick in 20 draft).

  • December 1, 2018 at 11:07 am

    When will Dylan Sikura get called up? He’s doing “OK” in Rockford – certainly not lighting the AHL on fire. If this is a rebuilding year (and it is), then the Hawks should see what they have in Sikura. He’s 23 so he’s not an 18/19 year old that needs to be coddled. His contract is up after this season and the Hawks need to assess if he has a future with the team or not. He obviously has offensive skills so the question isn’t a matter of development, per se, it’s a matter of whether he can play at the NHL level and that question can’t be answered until he’s actually at the NHL level.

    This season needs to be used smartly and figuring out if Sikura can be counted on to be a top-9 player on the rebuilt team should be done sooner than later.

  • December 1, 2018 at 11:16 am

    I’ve been and still am a “Fortin fanboy”. His speed is an asset worthy of playing in the NHL, but his offensive skill is lacking. Unlike Sikura, who has a developed offensive game, Fortin should be sent back to Rockford to try to develop an offensive game. He uses his speed well to forecheck and puck hunt but his shot is sub par and he is too easily pushed off the puck. I still have hope he can be a dynamic player at the NHL level but he’s not that yet.

  • December 1, 2018 at 11:31 am

    Big difference in sch and mid JAN.
    If were rebuilding and want a top 5 and 35 pick were going to need to be 10 under because we could be 10 over in the 2nd 40. The sch is much easier in the 2nd 40, almost night and day.

  • December 1, 2018 at 11:34 am

    Does it really matter if elc is up. Sign another one yr contract. Other then two contract stuff, there isint a deadline for any player/age wise.

  • December 1, 2018 at 12:26 pm

    Boqvist will be Swedens top defenceman at the wjc and Kurashev has dual Russian and Swiss citizenship, have a good shot you would think. With Bouchard,Dobson and Smith back in juniors makes it tough for Mitchell and Beaudin but one of them might make it. Krys isn’t eligible this year i don’t think. Maybe Nordgren or Altybarmakyan not sure if about anybody else.

  • December 1, 2018 at 1:04 pm

    Bored this morning I decided to play team owner and tell my GM what I want.

    I’m in the camp of those that believe the window has closed on the Hawks core and it’s time to rebuild from scratch.

    Let Keith, Toews, Kane and Saad move on and allow the Hawks to tank it for a few years. Use the top draft picks, prospects from selling, and cap space to build a core of players that will peak around the 2022/23 season.

    The goal is to have 6 core forwards and 4 core D between 20 and 25 years old. The rest of the team is filled with either drafted role players, existing prospects or free agents.

    Here is a potential 2022/23 lineup with approximate age in brackets.

    (22) 2019 1st rounder
    (21) 2020 1st rounder
    (20) 2021 1st rounder
    (23) Prospect (from Toews)
    (23) Prospect (from Kane)
    (24) Debrincat
    (22) 2019 2nd or 3rd rounder
    (21) 2020 2nd or 3rd rounder
    (20) 2021 2nd or 3rd rounder
    (25) Existing Prospect
    (25) Existing Prospect
    (30) Free Agent Role player

    (22) Boqvist
    (23) Jokiharju
    (24) Prospect (from Keith)
    (24) Prospect (from Saad)
    (25) Existing Prospect
    (30) Free Agent Role Player
    (30) Free Agent Role Player

  • December 1, 2018 at 2:01 pm

    Entwhistle for Hamilton might

  • December 1, 2018 at 2:18 pm

    Possible Noonan, assumed because he was in his 4th season in jrs. he was not eligible. Played at under 18s 2 yrs ago but not on wjc team last year.

  • December 1, 2018 at 2:29 pm

    Anyone remember how many of NAS Four D man were in world juniors

  • December 1, 2018 at 2:36 pm

    A comment was made on the noon (11am our time) radio talk show which airs on NHL channel that Schmaltz was moved because he simply was asking too much for his next contract and negotiations weren’t working. I’m not a fan of many of the Bowman moves in the past 5 years, but he got cornered on this one. Bowman is consistent in one regard – paint him in a corner about a contract and he trades you. Saad messed up by not telling his agent he wanted to stay in Chicago. Panarin got greedy early with his next contract. Schmaltz became a PITA about his next contract. They all got moved. GMs have a problem with hard caps. Not excusing Bowman, but the facts are still the facts. Moving Sharp was a year too late. That hurt. Gave up way too much for a washed up DMan that hadn’t played all year just for a playoff run. There is plenty of fodder to say he has made bad decisions. I don’t think TT was ever gonna get out of the Q doghouse.

    ER – once again I think you are spot on with your posts today.

    The schedule isn’t our problem. The personnel is.

    Let’s fix the mess. We need to establish a top pairing going forward, and it isn’t 2 and 7. At best, they are both 3 or 4 position players at this stage. Obtaining a top pair Dman is very expensive. Let’s get about developing them. It takes some time like 150-200 games. We go nowhere until we get a top pair that can play hockey every shift we ask them.

  • December 1, 2018 at 3:22 pm

    He’s age appropriate and invited to the summer camp.

  • December 1, 2018 at 3:58 pm

    To be clear on when I say sch., I mean it makes a difference in winning some games, not winning some games. Not that it makes a difference in being a top 5 team or a bottom 10 team.
    When we beat MIN, we played good and deserved to beat them. They were worn out from the sch. and it made a difference. We prob beat them that game anyways because we played good. The WIN game they had whatever they had/they didn’t play as good as they can/like we did every yr when we played teams that wernt good at the time/alsointeresting though we did good agasin them last yr to when we sucked overall without a NHL goalie.
    The sch does make a difference and its not the same for every team and it most definitely does not even out. It may/does get closer, not even out. Like goal posts, last yr we hit the most?, were not getting the most posts and in this yr, etc.

    We do need the roster rebuild, sch or not.
    Even when we had stacked teams, the sch made a difference, at times.
    What was amazing about what we did, I think in 5 of 7 yrs, we started 20-8 or better. Not sure if any teams this yr will be 20-8.

  • December 1, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Mo players in wjc are often noticed in bantam and brought up through international program. Under 17s, under 18s right up. So if you blossom later unless you’re an expected top 5 or 10 pick the upcoming draft they often don’t get picked. Players who have experience in international play earlier on get preference. Like Jokiharju last year Finland went with experienced players in their program instead of best players by their own admission. Thats why i said Beaudin a late bloomer and Mitchell in ncaa may have a tougher time than this years high picks and next years they want to showcase. Not a dish on talent or potential.

  • December 1, 2018 at 4:10 pm

    Good info there.
    Just want our Four/+ to be really good.

    Just need to get to work on the FW and make sure we have the right adjustments to the organization/not just all the coachs, for when were deep/2 yrs.

  • December 1, 2018 at 4:21 pm

    Any ideas on getting Bread Man and Stone. Bread Mans caphit wont be lower then 7, so 7-9 is range/who cars about yrs. What is Stones range for caphit.
    Without 8 and others needing rfa raise, cap going up, players being traded at deadline and whos leaving anyways/one yr tank ufas.

    2 run Home Run.

  • December 1, 2018 at 4:23 pm

    Nylander only got 7m.

  • December 1, 2018 at 4:51 pm

    All over twitter Blackhawks going alk in Panarin.

    Mo actually works out to 7.5m. Signing bonus up front so he doesn’t lose anything this year and short season the caphit is 10.2 m with lots of caproom available the next 5 it drops to 6.9m where leafs wanted him. Cap friendly called about a month ago so both get what they wanted. Signing earlier wouldn’t work as good for both sides.

  • December 1, 2018 at 4:57 pm

    Is 7 i guess cap friendly says 10.2 is just prorated calculation. So he recieves 7m this year with signing bonus

  • December 1, 2018 at 5:24 pm

    Yea, I always mean caphit, not salary, when I post.

  • December 1, 2018 at 8:12 pm

    Sherbak on waivers from Montreal! Former 1st rounder, big, can skate with an elite shot. Let’s pick him up and put Martinson or Kunitz on waivers.

  • December 1, 2018 at 8:46 pm

    Got to love Nick Schmaltz and the Yotes again tonight! Winning big since that great trade with the Mr. Bowman.

  • December 1, 2018 at 8:49 pm

    #8 Finding chemistry playing at center with Kane….oops, I mean Keller!!! Love the lazy play Strome makes as he back checks instead of moving his feet. Imagine this guy playing for Coach Q, forget it…He would be in Rockford!
    Thx Bowman!

  • December 1, 2018 at 8:53 pm

    Yes, ARI win baby and help us get a better pick.

    Talking about picks, man STL sucks and they have a full roster, we donot.

    Whats terrible is LA and VAN (I thought they got better). Those teams suck so bad, it looks like the best we can do is the 3rd most ping pong balls.

  • December 1, 2018 at 8:53 pm

    Maybe Panarin signs in Arizona? That would cray fun to see!!!

  • December 1, 2018 at 8:53 pm

    Personally I think Strome looks better tonight, quicker-more involved.
    The give aways, especially from Seabrook were awful.

  • December 1, 2018 at 9:46 pm

    Really? The giveaways from Strome are awful and he doesn’t make the extra effort to make that extra stride, he glides instead. Terrible. Still laughing about the John Tavares comparison. Anyway, another goal by Panik, another assist by Vinny, Schmaltz rolling, Yotes off and running. But, we have two extra bodies. Hope Wirtz is watching Arizona games instead. Actaully, he does know anything about hockey either, he hired an accountant and a baseball marketing guy to run it. NO HOCKEY MINDS!!!
    Keith, Seabs, Kane, Toews, and Crow are not the problem.
    Why is number #29 still playing in the NHL? This fast skating style fits Kane but as you saw tonight, the Cat and Strome can’t keep up. Pretty obvious, Strome is a 3rd line center at best and Perlini a 3rl line winger on this team. Probably do not make any roster in the top 20 of the NHL
    Ths Stan, thx Scotty!

  • December 1, 2018 at 10:03 pm

    Your’re really obsessed with this topic, I hope you find some resolution, but my guess is that isn’t what you want, instead you thrive on the negative.

  • December 1, 2018 at 10:37 pm

    Nylander deal is a $6.9M cap hit years 2-5 of deal, $10.2M this year (because he sat out).

  • December 2, 2018 at 3:15 am

    Nope, that is the reality. Our GM is the cause of this whole negative spell.
    Moving on, Bowman’s late, late draft pick little Anthony, 5’7″ player, not a great skater either had a good spell at Rockford. Actually, who cares. Really? That’s it. No Knott nor Iacobelli?
    Loved Keith last night, tells us exactly how the vets feel about Bowman. I saw Kane stick out his elbow that just missed the head of Preds player last night. Kane still the best player on the ice last night has he realized he is playing alone on that line and might as well accumulate the stats and just keep the puck for himself. Great stuff from 88.
    JC slowly realizing he has no roster to play with.

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