Blackhawks Make More Roster Cuts
On Monday morning, the Blackhawks assigned forwards Joakim Nordstrom, Dennis Rasmussen and Garret Ross, defensemen Adam Clendening and Klas Dahlbeck and goaltender Scott Darling to Rockford.
Update: Cody Bass and Pierre-Cedric Labrie are on waivers, en route to Rockford. Brandon Mashinter appears to have won the enforcer role to begin the 2014-15 season.
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With camp starting yesterday, the Hogs need everyone back…and SB will send down those who can clear waivers right now, until the trade is made. So now its the NHL roster with the Goon squad…let’s have Kane centre Bass and LaBrie next game…or we could try Mashinter on the PP, at the point position!
sorry to see MOOSE go down…
TvR is better than Cden/Dbeck- in my eyes and Q’s
Cumiskey has a great chance of making Hawks
Yeah, that’s great to see TVR still up with the Hawks as the ankle injury last year was brutal…with TVR developing this well, he’s gives us FOUR, count ’em, FOUR young, strong DMen that are ready or close to ready to making the roster…
As for Cumiskey, and the final roster Wall, we have to wait until that trade is made.
Sorry to see Moose go down as well, but its best for him right now, as he can acclimate to the smaller ice surface while in Rockford…and with Darling in net, the Hogs are looking very, very good right now!
Wow I can’t believe Q is going to keep one of those goons on this team. I hope it doesn’t happen. Please Q……
WE NEED A GOON TO COUNTER EVERY OTHER TEAM!!!ITS FREAKING HOCKEY DAMMIT!!!! NOT TENNIS
fwiw, vanRiemsdyk spent time at practice on Monday w/ the first PP unit.
If Rosival stays on the team, he will cease to be Rosival in my eyes, I will simply refer to him as Two for Hooking.
Bass and Labrie were both cut and it seems Q has a hard on for Mashinter. Lovely.
You can make that move any day now, Stan.
Thanks for that info Tab, very encouraging re: TVR!
Yes, JS, both Bass and LaBrie were confirmed cut this afternoon…I still will not believe that Mash makes the team, he is significantly slower than Bollig, albeit with better hands (for finishing not fighting), if Q attempts to use him this season you will see very quickly how he simply is not an NHL player, so even if he does make the team, it won’t last long. You can’t halt the progress of players like Nordstrom and TT, while at the same time demoting fast, skilled, 2 way players like Regin and Rasmussen so that a 25 year old rookie who can’t skate can be on the team for a physical presence. It literally would NOT be possible to explain or justify…although that never stopped Q with Handzus as his 2nd line Centre right up until game 4 vs. the Kings in the conference finals.
I watched Mashinter a lot last season in Rockford, he’s not good enough to be in the NHL regularly, let alone with the most talented team in the league. Why do you think 2 other organizations already passed over on him?
tony, Brooks Orpick took a 20′ run at Jonathan Toews and left the ground to make the hit, causing Toews to limp off the ice and then leave the game. NOTHING HAPPENED and Bollig was playing…last season lots of opposing players took cheap shots at Hawk players from time to time and Bollig didn’t do a thing. All of his fights (losses) were orchestrated dances with the other team’s goon, he decidedly lost most of them, how does any of this help the Hawks or deter the opposition? Clearly it doesn’t. The Hawks dumped Bollig because for 2 playoffs in a row he couldn’t be counted on to take a shift, how does Mash, who can’t skate, change this reality? Hockey is NOT the first part of the movie Slap Shot, its the 2nd part when the Hanson’s showed that they could skate, take the body and score goals…
Now who was it that said the only reason Bollig was on the team was because he could skate, and Mashinter can’t skate. I’ll agree that he can’t skate. Here’s to hoping he and Rozsival are in the press box together ALOT.
Tab, I don’t think it was TvR on the PP in practice today, I think it was Shaw with TvR’s jersey. Apparently Shaw and Bickell were wearing the wrong colored jerseys for practice so the swapped jerseys with TvR and TT, respectively. One of the beat writers tweeted that TvR was in front of the net on PP practice and later realized it was Shaw.
Speaking of TvR – I find it very intriguing that he’s still in training camp while Clendening, Dahlbeck and Johns were all sent down. TvR has never played professionally and his last college season was cut short due to injury. That makes me think that he’s not really a serious option to make the team so there must be another reason he’s still in training camp. Maybe it’s as simple as wanting to see him in another game or two to get an accurate assessment of where his game is at – whereas with those other guys they already have an accurate assessment because they’ve seen them play a lot more than TvR.
I think you are right ER, but it is still very encouraging that he is still there.
I think that, to play in another game (they are the off D guys)(other then 6). We know where the others are at…
The Hansons. Now that’s a 4th line. 61,65,38
Re Goons: the only time a goon IS an asset is when the other team KNOWS the guy is able/willing to injure ANYBODY on the ice, at any time. Like Brad said… 52 showing up to drop gloves with the other goon- does nothing for the Hawks…
A Guy like Torres is an asset (at least until he gets suspended (which is a 50/50 every year))- cuz you literally don’t know if he took his Meds that day- and you know he is capable and willing to hurt people. And he can actually play.
Thankfully there aren’t too many like him!!!
ER- On TvR… maybe I am seeing things… but I really thought his patience/calmness with the Puck in the D zone was way ahead of the curve… he has size… seems to know when to join the rush… The only thing that I didn’t see VS. the Oilers was how TvR might handle the forecheck…. Oilers had NO FORECHECK… so the jury is still out on TvR vs. the forecheck… but otherwise- I thought he was the most Composed Prospect D, including Runbad.
He actually looked as composed as Rosey… 32 is Old, slow, often injured… but the guy knows how to tease forecheckers with his calm/patience…
Uncle Hoss- love it!!!
I am with Brad on this………I am all for fighting in hockey WHEN IT IS NECESSARY!! Bollig fought when he felt like it and he always did that stupid “tap the other guy on the helmet” crap to make it look like he won the fight and he was saying “thanks” for the fight. BOLLIG WAS WORTHLESS!!!!
We need a player who will fight when our top players are being abused. There are 3 reasons to fight in pro hockey: 1. Protect yourself. 2. Protect a teammate. 3. Change momentum. Bollig never fought for #1, #2 or #3. He fought because he wanted to show the crowd how much of a bad ass he thought he was. We can’t use a guy like him.
If that particular player can score 8-10 goals a year and provide 12-15 assists and some energy, give him some ice time. I think the Orpik hit on Toews got Bollig his ticket to Calgary. We can’t have a guy who is just a fighter / bully on this team. We need a tough guy who can skate and provide other skills and help the Hawks win games.
Is Brenden Shanahan available???? Cam Neely???? Al Secord????
Wall, I’m not implying TvR hasn’t played well – just that it would be so out of character for the Hawks to keep a college player who hasn’t played competitive hockey since last January or February or whenever it was when his season ended because of the injury. I haven’t seen enough of him to know but if he’s jumped over Clendening, Dahlbeck and Johns on the prospect depth chart I’d be very surprised … and very happy because those other three guys are pretty good.
Seems like Bowman and Q will be content to start the season with Rosival, Runblad and Cumiesky as rhe 3rd pairing options when/if Leddy departs. With Clendening and Johns the 3rd pairing in waiting stashed in Rockford a phone call away.
Also looks like Mashinator has a shot to make it. Which also means those of you who persistently tear Quenneville a new aaahole over his insistence that Bollig be on the roster might instead want to point some of your bizarre and wrong rage the direction Bowman. I sure hope we don’t have another season of rhe usual suspects on here stating that Bowman doesn’t like Q and needs to “Q proof” the roster.
Bollig played split/games during season in ’13 and didn’t play in the playoffs when we had 4 lines. In ’14 he played in both when we didn’t have quality depth/4lines.
I don’t have a problem (even though were better wo & getting the actual playoffs players experience) if Oglethorpe plays in the season just not in the playoffs. We have quality 4 line depth again. You would think it is a season thing like ’13.
For whats its worth….being at the game last nite in Saskatoon, for the first ten minutes the Oilers came out totally dominating the play and ringing off a couple of goalposts…it was all Oilers but then Mashinter totally pummeled a guy named Kessy or something like that and really won the fight , getting him down on the ice with his Jersey pulled over his head…it was a one sided affair…both went off for 5…from that point on the Blackhawks took over the game …Mashinter, TVR, Ras-moose all had a lot of ice time. Versteeg played a strong game and worked real well with Bickell. Not saying Mashinter is a great addition to the team and the team the Blackhawks put out had few of our regulars but there is no doubt his efforts in winning the fight hands down inspired our guys out there. Q was happy with the team effort. By the way they played the Chelsea Dagger after each Blackhawk goal. Since I jumped up for each goal and danced along with the tune facing up to the crowd, which in my section, was mostly Oilers jerseys its a wonder I didnt get pummeled myself. One fella said “nice dancing” at the break! Oilers just withered as the game went on and tried real hard to break the shutout in the last 2 minutes but our D and Darling stopped them cold.
Two things, with the emergence of TVR, Hawks have 4 stud/solid D prospects that would be on most NHL rosters. Of those 4 guys, 3 of them are right shots. I think Babcock is jealous!
Also, the Bruins resigned Krug and Smith for 1.4 each. Once they LTIR Savard, they’ll be cap compliant. Chiarelli has said he doesn’t see a need to move anyone. If the Bruins decide to roll the dice with the 400k in cap space, I think that makes any D-man the Hawks have more attractive. (Fingers crossed)
Mashinter – Bollig perennial banter outstanding. Bowman and Q know how to feed the frenzy. Let’s remember Bowman made Bollig a millionaire; we live in a beautiful country.
I think BOS has to trade/clear 3.6m (2.7m if the have Hamilton on ahl roaster to start…)before the season starts because they cant use the ltir until after the season starts. I am not sure but think they have to be under the cap before they can use the 4m litr. Which then they can make a trade to replace Kelley/etc. anyways but will have to use assets.
Correlation does not equal Causation.
Hey Rufus! Sup buddy? Remind me who said Bollig shouldn’t be on the roster last year. I seriously can’t remember anyone saying it, but maybe it happened? What I remember was people bitching about him playing 82 games and then some more in the playoffs while significantly better hockey players sat in the pressbox.
So all this talk about the rookie defenseman have resulted in all of them being sent down and an undrafted free agent and KHL guy being on the team, not what I was expecting or hoping for. I would have rather have kept Cam Barker personally.
As for Manshinter yep hes Bollig 2014. Q prefers one guy in the role and Manshinter is the guy this year.
Im just waiting to see who the Hawks trade now. I was hoping one of the rookie dmen stuck. TT is atleast still w the big club right?
TT is on it, but highly doubt he makes the team out of camp. Only way he does is if a wing is traded and they want to move Shaw to wing. Personally I’d rather have Teuvo in Rockford than play 3C. IF they do move a winger, I think Danault gets the call to be 3 or 4 line center.
Cumiskey played in Sweden, not Russia. For whatever that’s worth. Let’s remember he’s still on a two way contract, albeit still being paid fairly well on the Rockford side of the contract. Barker was never going to make this team. TVR was highly sought after free agent. Much the way of Dekeyser, but broke his leg. Came back and proved he can still play at a high level.
Let’s not forget some of the guys still on the roster have had some injuries and that’s one reason why they’re still here. Cumiskey obviously the exception. The roster isn’t set, so let’s not jump to rash conclusions. A trade or roster move has to be made, so let’s wait until its made.
A lot will happen in the next week, so nothing has been decided yet, the kids back in Rockford could come back up if necessary, but they can be sent down now with hitting waivers…
If Mashinter stays on the NHL roster, then 2 guys have to be traded if its not Oduya. Secondly, he’s a 25 year old rookie who was dumped by 2 other organizations who doesn’t have NHL speed, if Q stubbornly plays him, he will need to play a lot, like Bollig, because their games have so many holes, they have to keep playing to get better. Now, what most of you haven’t figured out yet is this, if Mashinter stays as the 12th forward, that means that if Versteeg stays, then Morin is OUT again, after being PROMISED PUBLICLY by Q and SB that he would play a prominent role this season. It would also mean that Regin would have to go down, except he wouldn’t make it because he would get picked up for nothing off of waivers before he ever hit Rockford. While TT, Nordstrom, Rasmussen, Ross and Danault all sit in Rockford with NO PLACE TO GO.
In listening to Bowman throughout the summer and this preseason, he never expected any of the 3 goons to stick. They were there as window dressing for Q’s dinosaur age desire for a “tough guy”. Q keeping Mashinter is grandstanding…I like Brandon Mashinter, he’s a very nice young man. Even with his size though, he was never an enforcer, to stay playing professional hockey he is doing what he feels he has to stick. The nice thing about Mash is that he’s always had soft hands around the net. He can score, he’s a big body that will hit, but he’s not overtly aggressive, but he’s been kept out of the NHL because he can’t pull that big frame around the ice quick enough.
Bowman recreated the Hawks this summer in a fashion that allows us to compete for the Cup AND have a system of promotion to develop all of the young talent in the system. Mashinter does NEITHER of these things. Now think about that…we lost to the Kings for 3 main reasons: 1) our smaller defence couldn’t move bodies out of our own crease so CC couldn’t see…as of yet, we haven’t addressed it and neither Cumisky nor TVR address that MASSIVE NEED, Dahlbeck and Johns do (Bowman has raved about them). 2) we lost to the Kings because Q’s 4 lines were nowhere near good enough and he didn’t trust veteran Regin or youngster Morin to step in because he didn’t play them enough, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE 2 OF OUR BEST FORWARDS down the stretch. 3) we lost because of Q’s stubborn insistence that Handzus was a SC champion 2nd line centre. When he played last year in the reg. season we were s SUB .500 hockey team. In each playoff series Q started Zus back in that position, in each series we struggled mightily and had to get Ben Smith/Andrew Shaw to replace Zus on the 2nd line for us to start winning again. Against LA we won 2 in a row without Zus and had a 2 goal lead at home in game 7. So Bowman dumped Zus (and as I predicted HE’S NOT EVEN IN THE NHL) and signed Brad Richards, job well done. Bowman also traded Bollig for ONE REASON only, Bollig hurt us badly in the playoffs because he couldn’t play well enough and Q’s stubborn insistence of Bollig playing every night meant that youngsters couldn’t get sufficient NHL looks. What else did Bowman do? He resigned Regin, he publicly announced that Jeremy Morin has done everything the organization has asked of him, resigned him, and promised that he would play a prominent role, said that Versteeg was injured and needed a full offseason to rehab his knee and expected Versteeg to return to top form. He did NOT go out and sign or trade for a prominent tough guy. He brought to camp 3 NOMADS, and if you can’t see that, its only because you don’t want to. Bass, LaBrie and Mashinter are NOBODIES that couldn’t possibly be taken seriously to make the Hawks NHL roster when the 12th/13th forward positions were already being contested by the cream of our organizations talent pool, including Kris Versteeg, Jeremy Morin, Teuvo, Joakim Nordstrom, Dennis Rasmussen, Garret Ross and Phillip Danault. And someone like Rufus thinks that Bowman PLANNED to have a Cody Bass or Brandon Mashinter interrupt the progress of players like Morin and TT?? Seriously? You make financial decisions for your family using that mind?
This is grandstanding by Q pure and simple. The next preseason game that Chicago plays with Mashinter, just watch and see how the game unfolds around him. With Mashinter on the 4th line, this group will NOT be able to be used as the shut down line against the opposition’s best. Cory Perry-like elite wingers will eat his shorts for lunch and what do any of you want Mashinter to do, try and punch them? Does that sound like a good plan??? Just let me know…
Bowman certainly needs to help Q help himself. He makes some pretty dastardly lineup decisions. He also likes to run his veterans into the ground by January. But two Cups amiright.
At least Kane will score a lot. It’ll suck when Richards legs are dead and Hossa’s back flares up since the almighty stache will insist on skating these guys 22 minutes a night.
Q has over 700 wins. 2 other guys can say that. While that doesn’t completely give him a pass I think he knows how to win. I have no problem giving your top six 20 minutes a night. If he were to roll four lines and give everyone the same minutes were at 15 per forward. If these guys tire at 20 minutes down the stretch I’m pretty sure they’ll tire at 15.
“Let’s remember Bowman made Bollig a millionaire”
Let’s also remember Bowman flipped Bollig for a 3rd round draft pick.
Well boys and girls, I have been lurking around here all summer, but had no heart to comment due to this empty feeling that engulfed me following the loss to the Kings in game 7 at the UC. I along with many of you was really crushed to see that game slip away knowing we were likely to move through Rangers to another Cup. It was SOOOO close. Two leads blown. The Williams slash that took out Leddy’s stick, to the change in possession because of that play(that should have been called a penalty), and then Leddy getting back late after retrieving stick only to see a shot block attempt trickle through between his arm past CC. A fricking nightmare I kept reliving. It was only a few weeks ago that I was flipping channels, and came across the fateful game 7 being replayed on NHL Network. I couldn’t resist and watched the whole game over again. Demons semi purged to where I can at least look ahead to this year. Interestingly enough I spoke with many long time fans that had a similar post SC playoff exit depression like me. That coupled with my mom passing away recently made it kind of a strange summer for me to sort out.
I gave my tickets away for the first 2 preseason games but will go tomorrow and have a look. Watched a little bit on TV, but preseason doesn’t usually tell us much in any sport. I am ready to rock though when the biscuit drops Saturday night and the games count.
Lineup looks solid, and it appears they can roll 4 lines with this group and compete with anyone. I want to see some more beef on the back line. Looks like someone is going to go so we get under the cap. Leddy and Rozy in a package? I like the idea of Johns cuz he’s a big boy and the Hawks need some muscle on the back line. Seabs needs to step it up BTW in that dept. Our forwards MUST extract some punishment on opposing d men. Zus gone Richards in is a clear upgrade that will likely make Kaner’s numbers soar. Bout time… Bollig gone is just good. Versteeg will be interesting to watch. He needs a strong start and maybe he gets a look on the PK which is where he flourished back in the first Cup run. Hawks look deep including Rockford group.
This team with a strong core and solid group of role players can get the Hawks to the conference finals again. Hard to believe, but the division looks as tough or tougher than last year. Hopefully we get over the hump and bring back the Cup to where it belongs. Hope the guys can stay healthy. Tazer comments just after Hawks lost game 7 to the Kings tells me that loss did not sit at all well. They are likely to play with a bit more of chip on the shoulder this year as a result. The core guys hate losing especially the Cpt.
Lets Go Hawks!!
That’s exactly right Tab, CGY giving the Hawks a 3rd round pick more than justifies the dollars for Bollig…and the 3rd round pick in a deep draft was excellent value for Bollig, who simply isn’t good enough for the Hawks, but in CGY he may very well fit in with where they are at.
The dollars given to Bollig is even more justifiable by the fact the Hawks didnt have to pay a dime on that new contract. The 3rd round pick ALMOST makes seeing play as many games as he did worth while.
The bottom line is Bowman has been hit and miss w/ the non-core roster since he assumed the helm. He (or under Papa Bowman’s keen watch) has done a nice job of recognizing his mistakes and rectifying them. He has found willing partners (i.e., braindead Calgary hierarchy, Nashville huge coin thrown at Stalberg etc…) to make him look better. He secured a player like Morin who is a diamond in the rough — he looks like Steve Larmer, Jr. if given a chance to play. The Hawks wouldn’t be what they consist of without the joint efforts of him filling out the roster nicely, but more important, Dale Tallon securing the core of an historic team that we won’t likely see again once the core’s hockey lives expire.
Put me on the side of no goons needed. I know its the NHL and some teams, mostly in the East, love to keep a goon around but honestly if there is no goon to pick a fight with they usually are just exposed as bad skaters. The Chicago BlackHawks are a skilled team that should outskate their opponents. No team is going to be able to match up to our 4 lines IF we keep the right players on the ice. You DO NOT HAVE TO WIN the Presidents Cup to win the Stanley Cup. The season should be about getting ready for a deep playoff run.
Reg Dunlop, you hit it right on the head about fighting, you sound like a former player. Sr. Brad – awesome post and I hope you are right about SB.
Can’t wait to drop the puck and start the season!!
Ahh the Talon love still shines. With the exception of Kane and Toews let’s look at some of Tallons picks. He was hired as GM a month before the 2005 NHL draft and “promoted” before the 2010 draft.
Of those drafts, the only notable players other than 88 and 19 are; Hjalmarsson in 05, Ben Smith in 08, and Kruger,Olsen, and Pirri from 09. The only other name thats still remotely relevant is Jack Skille.
Mike Smith and Bob Pulford drafted more talent than Dale Tallon. Tallons time in Florida appears to be running out. He’s not this mystical figure some Bowman haters make him out to be.
I have read in a few places today that Leddy is not on the pp practice units. Does that mean anything or we just seeing how other guys look in our new spread pp offense.
Ernie: what’s your point?
Morrison: it appears Richards has replaced Leddy at the point on the 2nd PP unit.
I wonder if it’s Kevin Dineen’s call not to have Leddy on the power play. I actually like Leddy’s shot. His backswing is about 3 quarters and that gives it more accuracy. I do not think his shot or his play on the left point is at all a weakness.
Maybe some of the speculation is true and the coaching staff is not going to practice the power play with a guy who will not be here opening night.
No point. Just think its time to give Stan just a little credit. And to move on from Tallon. My comment was directed at Iceman. And while Dale did draft 88 and 19, he didn’t do much else. I think Bowman and all the scouts have done a better job at drafting than Tall on was able to. And with talent like Saad and Teuvo coming up, I think their are reasons to be optimistic when 81,10,2,7 move on. We’ve got 9 more seasons of 19 and 88. Let’s enjoy them.
Dear Ernie, please re-read the undersigned’s entry of yesterday. The entry criticizes — but also praises — Bowman. The same holds true for Tallon. Let’s not forget Tallon caught the entire league by surprise by signing Hossa., cutting bait on Havlat. Anyone serving as a GM will be subject to both sides of the analysis ledger. The core — and as you pointed out even some of the non-core players — was substantially secured by Tallon, as GM or Asst. GM. He made numerous blunders as well (Barnaby, Lapointe, Khabibulin, Huet, Aucoin, etc…). Bowman has been able to rectify his blunders a lot faster than Tallon.