61 thoughts on “Blackhawks Open Training Camp

  • September 13, 2019 at 10:41 am
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    Not good news on Dach

  • September 13, 2019 at 11:20 am
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    Of course he got injured by a player named Pilon…

  • September 13, 2019 at 12:50 pm
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    Listening to Bowman after 1st day no update on Dachs returm, saying the roster for opening will not be same as for 12th for example, expect some changes the 1st couple of wks. Left open the possibility of a 9 game stint for Dach and other rookies. Beaudin and Boqvist the other slide candidates this season. Although his comments about Boqvist seemed to indicate that Boqvist will play a role this year at some point if not out of camp. Dehaan be close to start season i guess.

  • September 13, 2019 at 1:10 pm
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    20 19 88
    12 17 11
    91 65 57
    22 15 64

    New line up

    Versus Minny our 4th line of : John Scott, Robert Probert and Wayne Van Dorp

  • September 13, 2019 at 1:29 pm
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    The Wild prospects were checking from behind a lot in that “win or finish last” game in TVC. This is a real shame as Dach was soooo good defensively, aside from the points he put up. He is very defensively responsible, on the right side of the puck in the neutral zone and laid the body on guys to disrupt rushes.
    I know almost everyone will disagree with me based on what I keep reading, but I still think Boqvist needs to learn to defend. He as grossly out of position way too often last weekend and got us burned quite a bit and that was the same impression I recall having after seeing him live in TVC 12 months earlier. He sure has offensive upside…but a D man has got to defend.

  • September 13, 2019 at 1:30 pm
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    Scott, Probert & Jocyln Lemieux !!

  • September 13, 2019 at 1:35 pm
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    Forgot about The Grimm Reeper. Stuuuuu

  • September 13, 2019 at 1:37 pm
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    Guys Probie is with us in spirit only…he won’t be able to suit up. I do like the idea of having that kind of line though…I am old fashioned and think life it better when the other team is somewhere between intimidated and “respectful.”

  • September 13, 2019 at 2:32 pm
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    Hopefully Dach is back sooner than later – that stings

    If he misses much time he likely goes back to Saskatoon for this year

  • September 13, 2019 at 2:33 pm
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    Espo hopefully Colliton’s system and a will by Boqvist to play it will help with defense. I agree from what i saw he does seem to leave his defensive position alot, thinking offense first.
    There is something to be said for teams having enforcers when opposing teams take liberties.

  • September 13, 2019 at 2:55 pm
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    In a way I think this could be a blessing in disguise for Dach, He is still very young and just because he is big does not mean he’s ready. From what I have seen (admittedly not a whole lot) I don’t think he is. I think immediate expectations are too high for him right now and I’m happy to see him back in juniors.

  • September 13, 2019 at 3:15 pm
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    Dach has already shown he is above junior level skill wise, plays defensively responsible game and has good size. Transition for a fwd to pros is not as difficult as a defenseman. No doubt he is one onc the 12 best fwds in camp, so wouldn’t assume his going back to juniors is a done deal, he may but have to see how they feel about him and it all pkays out first. If can help them team win and be good Nhl player he stays.

  • September 13, 2019 at 6:22 pm
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    Marner signed – 6 years at a little under $11M AAV. Toronto is now $13M over the cap. They have Horton and Clarkson going on LTIR but their cap hits combined is $10.5M … so this should get interesting.

  • September 13, 2019 at 6:58 pm
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    Dach is Lindros 2.0…soft head to .

  • September 13, 2019 at 7:01 pm
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    @ Hawks 2010 = I hope not but have to admit I had the same thought

    Gotta keep your head up

    Even though that was a cheap hit had Dach been ready for it it wouldn’t have concussed him – not a 6’4” in height

  • September 13, 2019 at 7:20 pm
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    EB with Hynan and Dermott they 13.7m in season opening ltir room with 13.4 now used. So when Hyman comes off ltur juggling has happen before then.

    Protocol for Dach never confirmed it was actual concussion just precaution. Lets not get carried away and retire him.

  • September 13, 2019 at 7:52 pm
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    Not sure Dach play 82 games this yr anyways. Just needs to be healthy, normal injuries not that kind of thing, for the coming yrs when he is ready to go 82 games.

    Boqvist could be like Leddy this yr. Really good at OFF and needs to get better at DEF, just like Leads was. For this yr and then when he gets established he get better at DEF.

    This is why Bowman and crew got a full roster of established NHL players and not leave any spots open for prospects. The young wave will make there way on 23man when ready.

  • September 13, 2019 at 8:03 pm
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    Not worried one bit about Dach. He missed one practice. He also just played 3 games in the past week.
    I watched Stan’s media scrum and you can tell he is dialed in and all business. For the players you either buy in and produce or you will be on the Rockford shuttle. No ifs ands or buts.
    If you listen to Stan talk about Perlini he mentions that while the contact is team friendly all of that is in the past and he wants Perlini to put it his skill on display consistently and contribute. This tells me that Perlini did himself a big favor by taking this one year deal for $841,000. Because three weeks ago, they were ready to kick him to the curb.
    Lastly, I’ve been in touch with a couple of members of the organization in the past week or so, Both said the exact same thing “we need to get off to a really good start”, no chasing the standings. There is a real urgency this year. The tone is different. There is an intensity in September that I have not seen in the prior few years at all levels.
    I have a feeling the Hawks are going to come out smokin’ the first month.

  • September 13, 2019 at 9:47 pm
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    Ian – Bowman did say today that they don’t know how long Dach will be out because concussions are unpredictable – could be a day or two or more

    I know he’s going to say that regardless so as not to be caught making light of head injuries but it still sounds to me like Bowman was saying that Dach sustained a concussion – maybe a not big one but still a concussion

    If that’s true it’s a bit of a red flag – hope I’m wrong

  • September 13, 2019 at 10:24 pm
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    Wrap if he is in protocol what else could he say. The fact they talked about it and say they don’t consider it serious, is a good thing, because if it was serious, i would think they would be alot more tight lipped on it. Time will tell when he returns. If it was Boqvist who has had concussions before, i would be a little more concerned.

    Craig agree on fast start and have mentioned on previous posts looking at their schedule, it would say thats exactly the case.

  • September 14, 2019 at 8:04 am
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    What, stoaked, the team in 2013 for the next few yrs then. A bullshtt schedule of first 10 of 12 on road starting with 6? on the road. They tried to screw us and it back fired. Not saying this is going to like 2013 season, though this is the start of another bunch of really good yrs. So there seems to always be a crazy section of sch at somepoint in 82 games, this is more like just how 2013 started with a smoking 1-20 games section.

  • September 14, 2019 at 1:20 pm
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    Re: DACH concussion protocol. I have a feeling it’s largely being overly cautious. I bet a dollar it’s nothing more than procedural.

  • September 14, 2019 at 1:42 pm
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    Aurora tend to agree, with lawsuits against Nhl, the results on Mikita, a high profile kid no.3 pick, with alot eyes watching and being training camp. Being over cautious is very likely.

  • September 14, 2019 at 3:07 pm
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    On Dach – sure they’re being extra cautious but he has a concussion

    Toews is quoted as saying he talked to Dach and told him from his own experience to take his time coming back – to make sure he’s 100% recovered – don’t rush back

    You don’t say that if they’re still trying to determine if he has a concussion

    Is not just procedural – he has a concussion

  • September 14, 2019 at 7:54 pm
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    If Dach goes back to Saskatoon, then returns to the Hawks next summer as a 19-year-old, bigger and stronger, as opposed to a kid fresh out of his draft class at 18, is that such a bad thing ?
    After his draft year, Toews went back to North Dakota for his sophomore year. His NHL career started and he hit the ground running.

  • September 14, 2019 at 9:25 pm
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    20 19 ?
    ? 65 88
    12 17 ?
    64 15 22

  • September 14, 2019 at 9:47 pm
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    Craig – I’m not against him going back if that’s best but it may not be best – we won’t know one way or the other if he misses too much of camp – they’ll just send him back

    I’m also hoping his style doesn’t lend it self more than usual to head shots

  • September 15, 2019 at 7:08 am
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    Ebonyraptor – it’s all because of Nylander, or should i say their GM is worse than…..
    DO NOT rush the kids! Why ruin the future. D and net minding have both improved. Hawks are already a better team than last year. Nashville and Jets are diminished. There is a future, let’s not ruin the one that’s in front of us.

  • September 15, 2019 at 8:04 am
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    Theres a difference between rushing and being ready, no one is suggesting rush them. True they don’t need the young players and that’s a good thing. If they show they are ready and can be an upgrade in the lineup and help them win that’s entirely another.

  • September 15, 2019 at 8:53 am
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    Thats the idea because there are more then one or two that are going to be better then the 12 best FW we have, that are established NHL players now. When they are ready they will be in. No one is blocking them. Anyone in the way will be moved when its time. No need to move anyone this yr, we can have 5 lines and 4 pairs and have more in Rockford.

    21 season and on we might not have as many, because of salary cap, still will have a full roster and stacked by quality terms then.

    Were one of the deepest teams this yr, and have one of those two #1 goalie tandems that only about 3 teams have each yr. Usually thats with two #1 goalies except we have two top 10 goalies.

    Couldnt be more loaded then this and with a top 10 farm coming to upside quality more. Only way we could be better is having a #1 Defensemen which do not grow on trees, like 2 19 88 81 Dach. Draft or ufa. We got Hoss ufa we can get Defensemen ufa next two summers ufas.

  • September 15, 2019 at 9:20 am
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    Any way to watch scrimmage on tv. Do not see it on csn that I get.

  • September 15, 2019 at 9:31 am
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    Wrap …i didnt write about Lindros …its the guy who had the good idea to take the name Hawk2010..(bad idea to get confuse with me ) ..with no S …haha…
    Nice name but really similar to Hawks2010.
    Jordy…i agree with you …Dach is young and hope he will grow in junior …no rush

  • September 15, 2019 at 9:33 am
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    Mo, I was wondering the same thing regarding the scrimmage being streamed – I haven’t seen anything either.

  • September 15, 2019 at 9:43 am
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    To Hawk2010…. possible to change your name not to confuse everybody here . Thx

  • September 15, 2019 at 9:58 am
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    I’ve kind of changed my mind a little bit regarding Dach making the team … or maybe I should put it this way – I would have been more disappointed before if Dach were sent back to Saskatoon than I am right now. If he makes the team because he clearly demonstrates that he shouldn’t be denied – then great. But short of that I think he and the team would be better served in the long run with him postponing his pro debut until next season. There’s the obvious economic factor of pushing his first RFA contract out a year, but I also think it be better for the team to sort through the depth at forward without using one of the few open roster spots for Dach. Which is to say that I see the 2019/20 season as a retooling season rather than a serious competitive season.

    There are the forwards who we know will be part of the team a couple seasons down the line when they are (hopefully) improved enough the be legitimately competing for the Cup – Toews, Kane, DeBrincat, Strome and Dach – let’s call them the top group, but the other 7 forward positions are somewhat up in the air and those are the forward spots I would like to see get figured out this season – let’s call them the middle and lower groups.

    The middle group would be the 4 players to play with the top group in the top-9 and the lower group would be 4th liners, the 13th forward and guys who could play up the lineup when necessary.

    The middle group would be selected from: Saad, Shaw, Nylander, Kubalik, Perlini, Sikura, Kurashev, Saarela, Wedin, Quenneville and even Versteeg. The lower group will be selected from: Kampf, Caggiula, Carpenter, Smith, Highmore and maybe a couple other guys in Rockford.

    The first objective of this season should be to determine the roster of the 2020/21 season, and if they can make the playoffs while doing that – great.

  • September 15, 2019 at 10:41 am
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    EB the roster should improve every year going forward next couple of years, but this year is not a retool, the intent is to win. Signing Lehner when became available was a clear message to give the team the best chance to do that. The decision on Dach and Boqvist will be based on the similar premise not rushing them but if they show they are ready.

    Concussions infortunately happen, but going back juniors should have no impact from that, too bad preventing concussions wasn’t that simple, but look where it happened. Still think this is precautionary with Dach, confident he’ll be fine.

  • September 15, 2019 at 11:18 am
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    Agree Ian – this season is about winning as much as possible and if Dach can help he should be on the team – that’s why I’m concerned that he’s in concussion protocol – how are they going to determine if he’s ready

    While I’m hopeful he’ll be back soon what if he’s not and misses most of camp – maybe only gets only one pre-season game before they leave for Europe – that makes for a tough decision

    And because I’m very hopeful about Dach’s potential as an NHLer I’m maybe extra sensitive to concussion issues with him

    Chances are that I’m over-reacting…but it’s because I like the player so much

  • September 15, 2019 at 11:21 am
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    Scrimmage is on Blackhawks website

  • September 15, 2019 at 11:58 am
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    I want the Hawks to win another Cup ASAP as much as any Hawks fan – I just don’t think the team they’ll have in 2019/20 is going to be good enough. I think they will have a good shot at making the playoffs and then we can play the “who knows …” card but I think the odds are pretty long the Hawks can win the 2019/20 Cup. I hope I’m wrong, but I can’t ignore my gut on this. I also value playoff experience for the young guys who haven’t tasted NHL playoff intensity yet – so I hope they make the playoffs – but I hope they figure out the 4 question marks in the top-9 for the 2020/21 season even more.

  • September 15, 2019 at 12:10 pm
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    That may be the case, goaltending is what will ultimately take this team deep in playoffs or not. It’s not as straight forward as retool year or win the cup though. They aren’t likely making playoffs if it treated as a retool year. They need to be able to compete right out the gate night after night to do that. Team down in Rfd. will go a long way on who can play on Nhl roster next year and shape it. Blackhawks need to play to win to become a playoff team.

  • September 15, 2019 at 1:27 pm
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    Hawaii 5 0.

    Whooping 5-1. !st and 2nd or 3rd line with DEF pair guys blow out the other lines.

  • September 15, 2019 at 2:00 pm
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    Team defense will ultimately determine how good the Hawks goaltending is this year. If the forwards big concern is to set personal records offensively without committing to some sort of defense it won’t matter who is net for Chicago.
    I keep hearing how good the goaltending is going to be this year in Chicago.
    With Crawford making six million and Lehner making five million. Eleven million reasons they better have good goaltending. I don’t think that many teams are spending eleven million on goalies.

    Playing tons of minutes in all situations in jr to me would seem to be more beneficial to Dach than getting limited minutes in Chicago. Same goes for Boqvist playing in all situations for Rockford.
    Now if the Hawks plan on giving Boqvist first line power play minutes I would keep Boqvist with the big club.
    If not for Bowman having his job on the line Erik Gustafsson should have already been traded. Sell high.

  • September 15, 2019 at 2:57 pm
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    Yea were deep and one of the deepest teams in league. Think we get better each yr going forward to. Were really deep this yr and prob wont be as deep 21 season and on, though better quality and still deep just not this deep. We could be this deep with guys in Rockford and deadline add, like we usually do.

    Unless Crow does a ? yr at 2m we wont have two top 10 goalies. Not until Younger guys are good and will they be top 10 like the two we have now. Prob keep two of Shaw Smith Haan Matta. Theres 8 m right there. We have lots of good Defensemen blue chips coming, do we have as many FW like that. Could factor in who we keep and prob the most factor os these guys and others themselves.

    We are basically build like STL last yr this yr, besides a #1 Defensemen, we are as deep as they were from summer. Deep in every position.

  • September 15, 2019 at 3:06 pm
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    Wrap, he can play 9 games and still go junior. So does anyone know if there is a max game limit for games played by team or date 9 games or not or more by.

    Is it by game 1 for him?

    ER, I see what your saying, though I think were basically same as STL last yr. Not by having a shtt record 30 games in, for roster being really good and that deep. They have #1 Defensemen and hot good goalie, were we have the Defensemen we have and two established top 10 goalies.

    Think NAS ans WIN are not as good as they have been recent few yrs, DAL MIN same. COL might be worse after trading away a #1 Defensemen for this yr as they get better, STL same as last yr and with a book out on new not seen goalie and hang over and everybodys best game against them.

    No doubt hardest division by far. You can take top 7 teams in east or combination of them and west and its equal to central.

    I still think NAS and WIN and some others like SAN are really good, though not the better teams anymore. Its more close between the top teams in Campbell.

    Thats why we need plenty of bangers on the team so we can play that way if need be agasint east teams in finals or certain teams in Cambell this yr and coming yrs.

  • September 15, 2019 at 3:25 pm
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    MO – I don’t think they’ll give Dach 9 games if they don’t see enough in training camp

    No one is getting NHL games to develop – as Ian and others have said the Hawks need a fast start – they need their team set from virtually the beginning

    My feeling is that if Dach makes the opening roster he’s likely here for the year

    Maybe if he misses a lot of camp he gets a couple of NHL games and if he’s not ready he’s goes back to junior

    The Hawks aren’t going to wait 9 games to decide on Dach and to get their roster set IMO – they need to be winning right out of the gate – the Central is too competitive

  • September 15, 2019 at 3:28 pm
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    Is it just my imagination or does Nylander seem to having a good camp thus far?

  • September 15, 2019 at 4:05 pm
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    Wrap, some of the buffalo reporters talked about how he seemed to be more focused on strength and conditioning in the off-season. They could tell just by looking at him.

  • September 15, 2019 at 4:16 pm
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    Mo i agree with Wrap the decision him likely made dairly quick, not sure what you mean but 10th game burns an elc, 40th game a year toward ufa status, any time throughout the year they want to demote him he goes to juniors.

  • September 15, 2019 at 4:26 pm
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    Be a big boost if Nylander did have breakout year, heres hoping.

  • September 15, 2019 at 4:48 pm
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    DeBrincat-Strome-Saarela
    Wedin-Toews-Nylander
    Saad-Kampf-Kubalik
    Soderlund-Nilsson-Fortin

    Caggiula-Shaw-Kane
    Smith-Carpenter-Versteeg
    Perlini-Highmore-D. Sikura
    Quenneville-Entwistle-Hagel

    Interesting and as I thought we would see 65 88 on the line together again. Seeing the FW paired makes you wonder and this was prob just see how they play together. These pairs stand out.

    DeBrincat-Strome-? 3rd line
    ?-Toews-Nylander 1st line
    Saad-Kampf-Kubalik 3rd line
    Caggiula-Shaw-Kane 2nd line
    Smith-Carpenter-? 4th line
    Perlini-?-D. Sikura 6th line
    Quenneville-Entwistle-Hagel 5th line

  • September 15, 2019 at 5:03 pm
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    Wasnt sure on the rule for some of that. I see now and think same.

    Wasnt meaning he would play 9 then they decide just trying to figure things.

    Bowman said there are going to be guys who arnt playing game 1 or 2 that will prob be ready by game 12 or later. That might be where Nylander is and other?

    I have to think Kubalik is on top 9. With 77 92 8 playing that would be crowded.

  • September 15, 2019 at 5:06 pm
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    Who ever with Carpenter, 15 or 64 or both, 22 is taking right side draws on 4th line.

  • September 15, 2019 at 5:10 pm
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    Actually out of these scrimmage lines

    DeBrincat-Strome-? 3rd line
    ?-Toews-Nylander 1st line
    Saad-Kampf-Kubalik 3rd line
    Caggiula-Shaw-Kane 2nd line
    Smith-Carpenter-? 4th line
    Perlini-?-D. Sikura 6th line
    Quenneville-Entwistle-Hagel 5th line

    I see this from that

    Saad-Toews-Kubalik 1st line
    Caggiula-Shaw-Kane 2nd line
    DeBrincat-Strome-? 3rd line
    Smith-Carpenter-? 4th line
    Kampf
    Nylander
    Perlini
    Sikura
    Quenneville-Entwistle-Hagel 5th line

  • September 15, 2019 at 7:29 pm
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    Mo i see the pairings as
    19 88
    12 17
    20 64
    91 15 22 4th line
    65 on one line and the bubble guys 11, 8, 77, 95 ,92, 57, 27 and 47 competing for other 2 spots and 13th fwd. Colliton liked 20 and 64 when could use the last year and think he goes back to them to start.

  • September 15, 2019 at 9:12 pm
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    If Kampf is 3C he has to improv his offensive game – he might be able to do that

    He is able to create with his speed and he’s smart enough – it’s his finish that is lacking

    Some of that can be learnt – you can score 20 goals without being an elite shooter just by not panicking in close and being in the right spot at the right time

    The longer Dach is out the more likely we are to seeing Kampf as 3C IMO

  • September 15, 2019 at 11:21 pm
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    I had that based on the scrimmage lines. You can see Colliton is sampling a bunch of different things. We do have many options as many players can play center or left/right and more then one role. For what I think, 19 88 or 20 19 like your saying. 3rd line of 20 64 can be good as a checking line, though I see 15 22 as the pair for the checking line and three scoring lines, maybe two potent and one two players.

    11 65 88 didnt do much points wise and wed 19 92 looked good.

    If you did have 19 88 on the line then
    92 19 88
    12 17 11
    20 64 65
    15 22 91

    I thin 22 plays center, though thats where were so flexible 15 or 22 can center and same with 64 or 65.

    It just looked like Colliton was sampling lines to have three lines that are good and you cant match up against everyone of them, you pick your poison. 4th line like the 16 67 line with a Bolly or Shawzer once deadline deep.

  • September 15, 2019 at 11:23 pm
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    One things for sure the guys in the press box arnt going to be regulars. We got 5 lines that can play and to stay fresh and mean, playing this sytle, we prob see 14 FW playing regularly.

  • September 16, 2019 at 5:10 am
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    Actually Saarela is 28, Boqvist is 27 sorry, throw Highmore in that bubble group.
    Mo thats where having Sikura and Quenneville on .75m caphits could allow alot of flexibility as you say from the 13, 14 forwards if they aren’t in top 12.

  • September 16, 2019 at 7:35 am
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    Were loaded with deepness. I know its not the most ideal top 5 team roster, though the top teams arnt as good as they were from 2008-2015 anymore.

    We know were going to get better quality in the coming yrs to so beauty of the whole thing is right back where we started from.

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