Blackhawks Overwhelmed By Hurricanes

A few hours before puck drop on Friday evening the NHL postponed Saturday’s game between the Blackhawks and Hurricanes. So Chicago only gets one crack at Carolina this weekend in what has become an important matchup for both teams in the division standings.

While there might not be two games this weekend for the Hawks and Canes, Carolina rolled out in their reverse retro uniforms for the game. A stick tap to the old Hartford Whalers look, Carolina’s look was on point. Cue the “Brass Bonanza.”

Kevin Lankinen got the call between the pipes again, which makes sense with Saturday’s game no longer on the calendar. James Reimer went for Carolina.

Coach Jeremy Colliton also decided to stick with seven defensemen in his lineup. Carolina has been scoring at will lately, so keeping depth on the blue line was a roll of the dice. The Hawks would likely need to score a few to come out of this game with two points.

The first period was a good – not great – for the Hawks. Chicago got the only power play of the opening 20 minutes but failed to convert. And 21 seconds after Brady Skjei left the penalty box Nino Niederreiter ripped a shot that appeared to get a piece of Nikita Zadorov’s shin and angle into the net behind Lankinen for the game’s first goal.

The Blackhawks out-shot the Canes 9-7 in the first. Just failed clearing attempts by Calvin de Haan and Zadorov and the well-placed shot by Niederreiter were the difference.

Lucas Carlsson led the Hawks with three shots on net in the first period, the only three shots to come from the seven dressed defensemen.

A little more than three minutes into the second period the Blackhawks got caught in a long shift and iced the puck with Adam Boqvist and Nicolas Beaudin on the ice. Carolina was able to take advantage of the tired Hawks skaters on the ice. Vincent Trocheck’s eighth of the year extended the Canes’ lead to two at 4:02 into the period.

At 16:39 into the second, Patrick Kane decided to take matters into his own hands. He went old school with a spin-o-rama his first NHL coach would be proud of and the highlight reel play finished with the Blackhawks on the board.

Alex DeBrincat picked up the only assist on the gorgeous Kane goal.

Chicago stayed on the offense and pressed the Canes in the final seconds of the period. Duncan Keith tried to drop a puck to Kane but missed him, forcing the Hawks to vacate the offensive zone with 17 seconds left in the period. The reset actually helped Chicago, however. Kane got the puck to David Kampf who dropped it to Ian Mitchell.

And Mitchell didn’t miss.

That goal with 10.5 seconds left in the second period tied the game.

When the horn sounded ten seconds later, the scoreboard showed that Carolina had out-shot the Hawks 15-9 in the second period. But the score was tied at two. Lankinen had stopped 20 of 22 after 40 minutes of hockey and did a good job of keeping his teammates in the game until the offense could break through.

Dylan Strome opened the third period by heading to the penalty box 2:14 in and it proved costly. A mess around the net resulted in a crossbar hit, a man down and a Teuvo Teravainen goal to give the Whalers a 3-2 lead.

Only a few seconds after the ensuing faceoff Lankinen made a ridiculous save on a great chance from Martin Necas that could have blown the game open.

Carolina really poured it on after re-taking the lead. Carlsson broke up a good chance for Andrei Svechnikov and the Canes’ speed was starting to create problems for the Blackhawks. Five minutes into the period the shots were 7-1 in favor of Carolina.

A Beaudin turnover turned into a Zadorov penalty with 12:18 remaining in the third. The Hawks were chasing badly and going short-handed felt like an awful scenario.

But Eric Staal took the legs out from under de Haan 56 seconds into the power play and headed to the box to kill his team’s power play.

Chicago killed their half of the 4-on-4 but couldn’t manage a goal despite a few good shots against Reimer during their brief advantage.

Trailing by one the Hawks struggled to get anything on net at even strength. They generated only four shots on net in the first 13 minutes of the period.

Boqvist went to the box at 13:36 into the third for tripping when he dove to break up a would-be breakaway for Brett Pesce. He was fortunate to only get two minutes; Pesce’s skate got dangerously close to Boqvist’s face. Chicago would have to kill two minutes short-handed with less than seven left in regulation while down a goal.

Lankinen made a few good stops but the pressure was constant and eventually led to a fourth goal for Carolina. Jesper Fast left the puck in front for Niederreiter who put home his second of the night.

Now the Blackhawks had to come up with two in the final five minutes of regulation.

Colliton rolled the dice and pulled his goaltender with more than three minutes left in regulation and an offensive zone faceoff coming. It immediately backfired. Jaccob Slavin fired a puck the length of the ice into the empty cage to make the score 5-2 in favor of Carolina.

The Hawks got a power play with 60 seconds left in regulation but were chasing three. The outcome was academic, but Colliton still pulled Lankinen again for the extra attacker. Kane ripped a shot from the point that slipped by a Carl Soderberg screen in front to get the Blackhawks to within two.

Kane got another good shot off with 28 seconds left in regulation but Reimer got a good look at it and handled the shot. The Blackhawks wouldn’t get another shot on net and the game ended with the Blackhawks’ third regulation loss in their last 16 starts.

Kane would finish the night with three points and another heavy workload night (over 24 minutes of ice time again).

Boqvist continues to look a step slower than the rest of the team. He was tentative at full speed when the season started but he’s noticeably slower since returning from COVID. It’s absolutely time for Colliton to consider replacing him – preferably with Mitchell – on the power play. And he might need some time in Rockford to get his game together.

Lankinen stopped 33 of 37 in the game and was under fire the entire game, especially in the third period. Carolina out-shot the Hawks 16-10 in the final frame.

Kane and Kampf led the Hawks with four shots on net each. Keith and de Haan were credited with a team-leading four blocked shots each.

138 thoughts on “Blackhawks Overwhelmed By Hurricanes

  • February 19, 2021 at 8:58 pm
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    This was bound to happen at some point. You must get the puck out of your zone and make quicker decisions on breakouts are the lessons learned tonight. The hawk kids are not as bad as they looked. Carolina is really good. Stay focused on the mission and keep running the kids out there.

  • February 19, 2021 at 9:11 pm
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    That game landed somewhere between pathetic and embarrassing.The Hawks were manhandled the entire game losing just about every puck battle.It was a bunch of men playing against frightened children.If not for Lankinen it would have been about a 10 to 2 game.This 7 defensemen lineup is goofy and is not helping the young guys or any of the Dmen.You develop a synergy with your partner and play a consistent game without all of the miscommunications and errant passes and coverages.DeHaan was his worst,losing his assignments several times as he learned what life is like when you have the glacier skating Boqvist as your partner.Boqvist does not belong on NHL ice and he proved that tonight.He cant skate,he is not physical,and does not work hard enough to offset that.Beaudin played his worst game with multiple horrendous turnovers along with soft soft/lackadaisical play.Carllson was the only D man that was decent but had to giveup his ice time to Boqvist.The forwards were pushed around and besides Kane and Kurashev did not help much or create much.Hagel had his worst game and looks tired now.Strome,s stat line will paint you a picture.As usual no shots on goal and now he is bailing on physical contact as he remains stuck in quicksand refusing to move his feet taking a lazy penalty at a bad time.Thank god they are not playing the Canes tomorrow.YUCK!

  • February 19, 2021 at 9:19 pm
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    Coming into this season the focus was on getting the young d-corps experience to eventually be a top defense in the league and capable of contending for the Cup. For all the excitement of the young players so far this season – tonight was a good level set as to just how far away they are from being a top defensive unit. Every one of the 7 d-men that played struggled against the in-your-face pressure put on by the Canes.

    I mentioned the same observation after the Wings games where it seemed the d-men were half a second slow moving the puck which resulted in the opposing player getting on the Hawks player and more times than not the smaller/weaker Hawks player will lose the board battle and lose possession. I don’t know why the d-men are hesitant – is it because the opposing players have every outlet pass covered? If that’s the case then they are one on one and they need to win more of those battles.

    I’m a big believer of if it ain’t broke don’t fix it and while I realize that Shaw isn’t on PP1 but their zone entries are abysmal. At this point JC should swap roles and have PP2 start and play the first 1:20.

  • February 19, 2021 at 9:23 pm
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    re: ER’s analysis of the blue line – perhaps only skating 6 and developing some chemistry instead of having 7 and fewer forwards carrying random shifts in different roles (Carpenter on PP?) would benefit the team? They were better on the back end w/ 6 not including Boqvist. When he came back they’ve tried to force him back into the role he had before he got sick but Mitchell & Beaudin jumped him on the roster and shouldn’t give those minutes back. They’re the better players.

  • February 19, 2021 at 9:24 pm
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    Gonna happen with a young team, they’ll bounce back, skt isn’t falling. Blackhawks had 3 takeaways and 17 giveaways the Canes 13 takeaways and 10 giveaways, pretty much says it all, Canes in their face all night creating turnovers, gotta look after the puck better.

  • February 19, 2021 at 9:27 pm
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    re: Carolina out-playing the Blackhawks tonight – yes, they did.

    Coming into this season most people here and around the league thought the Hawks would be in a fight for a top 4 spot in the lottery, not their division. So credit the Hawks for playing well enough to be interesting and part of the playoff conversation.

    But there is clearly, painfully a depth and skill gap between the top 3 teams in this division (Tampa, Carolina & Florida) and the rest of the division. The Blackhawks have a fighter’s chance at the 4 spot but without Toews & Dach they simply don’t have the horses to compete with those top 3 teams.

  • February 19, 2021 at 10:01 pm
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    This game exposed the weaknesses in a big way. Tab is on point regarding the dressing of 7 defensemen. Boqvist is not up to the NHL level that he needs to be…yet. Some time in Rockford will give him the time he needs to get his legs back, work on the weaknesses in his game and be a better player. Carlsson, Mitchell, and Beaudin are doing a great job. Keith and De Haan are excellent mentors. Zadorov. 1 Hit. This is the guy that Bowman traded Saad for because he wanted more physicality. To be fair, he’s had those games. Lately? He hasn’t. Maybe he’s a little beat up. He hasn’t played well since his losing fight. Maybe that is messing with his confidence. Have him sit out a game and give Bowey or Kalynuk some ice time.
    The faceoffs are another issue. Kampf and Soderberg were 60% and 54% respectively. Suter was an abysmal 29%. Here’s where it gets interesting. 5 separate players took faceoffs and were a combined 5 out of 9…56%. That has to be settled at some point. Strome was 2 out of 3 but was otherwise invisible, except for that penalty that Carolina converted on. He is playing himself right out off the team. Is he in Colliton’s “dog house”? It sure looks like it. I’m not a fan of the Kane-Suter-Debrincat line. Too much talent and too little size for one line. If Colliton will skate 6 defensemen, then bring in Johnson for that forward opening. He and Hagel are just fun to watch. Plus, Johnson hits EVERYTHING. I feel like a broken record, but Strome and Debrincat work well together. Let Strome work out his funk with someone we all know he can work through it with. Kane and Kurashev had chemistry. Maybe Centered by Soderburg or have Kurashev center and Janmark at LW. Suter at RW, Soderberg at C, and Kubalik at LW…again…chemistry.
    Lastly, this was not a bad game by Lankinen. He deserved much better play in front of him. It happens. He’s such a mentally tough kid that there’s no doubt he’s already forgotten this game and is preparing for the next.
    I really want Strome to succeed, but he is the only one who can grab the bull by the horns and do what needs to be done to stay with the Blackhawks. We’ll see what happens. This team can do better. Let the 7 defensemen experiment be over, for now, and get the forwards some line continuity. NEXT GAME!!!

  • February 19, 2021 at 10:10 pm
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    This was definitely a game where we missed Toews and Dach, both at the dot and in their ability to go into the corner and come out with pucks. This game was a carryover of what we saw that last two games vs Detroit..not winning 50/50 pucks, not dumping the puck and forcing Carolina to go 200 ft, not clearing pucks out of our zone when we finally did have pucks on our sticks, and worst of all, although not surprising, chasing the puck all night because we can’t win draws..the only difference is, Detroit is bad so the games stayed close..Carolina is a very good team, so you can’t play that way for 60 min and expect to get a win..they were going to break through at some point tonight. Part of the issue stems from the way that the Hawks win games(score on the pp, strong pk, strong goaltending, chip and chase, dump pucks and force the opposition to go the length of the ice). That can’t be sustained every night. Some nights, you’re going to have a soft pk, or a pp that doesn’t score twice, or difficulty clearing pucks, or a goaltender who lets in more than two(although I thought Lankinen was solid tonight), etc..when that happens, this team will automatically lose those games..they don’t have enough high end talent to score 4-5 goals 5v5 when every facet of the game plan escapes them..no surprises there..this is a young team and a game like this will give them some worthwhile film to watch over the next few days. A lot of the mistakes I saw were mental errors..for example, Beaudin looked hesitant and indecisive with the puck all night and Boqvist’s penalty wasn’t necessary..let Pesce get his breakaway..I’d rather a defenseman takes a shot on goal instead of giving up a pp and letting Aho and Necas back on the ice..lots of mental errors that can be worked on..this is a young team after all. A lot of that will improve with time and experience. No real way to correct it except to experience those errors and learn from them.

    As for the good, well there wasn’t much tonight lol. But I thought Mitchell played well..besides the goal, he had a few breakouts where he just skated the puck out himself instead of doing what too many of our defensemen were doing tonight, which was firing stretch passes to no one or not skating the puck up the ice enough so that they could dump the puck out of the zone.

    Lastly, I would love to see Carolina’s record if they had Aho and Staal out for the year or Florida’s if Barkov was out for the year..point being, some of the ”deficiencies” the Hawks had tonight can be improved with our centers coming back healthy. We wouldn’t be the only team to have games like this if our top two centers were out for the year.

  • February 19, 2021 at 10:11 pm
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    How the hell does Carpenter get PP time? He has a slightly better chance of scoring than Kampf does which is zero. DeHann sucks period. Let the kids play!!

  • February 19, 2021 at 10:27 pm
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    Wait a minute – the Hawks don’t need to fix anything by rearranging the deck chairs. This is what was supposed to happen – the Hawks were supposed to get outplayed by superior teams AND the young players will use these experiences to learn and to get better. That, along with the physical maturation process is precisely the plan.

    The better than expected early season results has beguiled us with premature visions of grandeur and distracted us from what we hoped to accomplish. This was a good wakeup call and I have to think JC will use it as a much needed teaching moment. You could hear it in the post game comments from Kane and Mitchell that the Canes play the way the Hawks are aspiring to play. The young players will get better from this experience. Baby steps. Lots of baby steps.

  • February 19, 2021 at 10:30 pm
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    I also have to admit, I’m excited to see all of the ”trade Boqvist” and ”trade Strome” comments that should be funneling in over the next few days..just remember, Beaudin was our worst defenseman tonight..well, maybe Boqvist was tied with him lol..and I do agree that the 7 defenseman experiment has run it’s course..communication and spacing is at least 50 percent of being an effective blueliner..difficult to do when you have a different partner constantly..I wonder how Hammer and Oduya would have looked if Q kept rotating Rosival or Brookbank to play minutes with them..their chemistry was build by immediately playing together and only together..I think Colliton has probably wanted to bench Zadorov or DeHaan already, but with the Hawks winning games, and with Murphy out, he probably feels like he needs to vets to play right now..but, hurt feelings or not, this is supposed to be a year for the young players to get acclimated and learn..can’t let winning get in the way of that..give Zadorov or DeHaan some maintenance days..and give Kalynuk a look too..

    Keith-Mitchell
    DeHaan/Zadorov-Beaudin
    Carlsson/Kalynuk-Boqvist

  • February 19, 2021 at 10:53 pm
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    I’ll admit I have no shortage of pet peeves – I’m a nitpicker if there ever was one. My latest one is a thing the Hawks d-men seem to do with too much regularity and that’s slow down and let the opposing forward arrive at the puck at the same time. I’m not sure what the rationale is for doing that but regardless the intent – it usually doesn’t work to the advantage of the Hawks player. Most likely the intent is to let the opposing player make his move first so they can counterpunch and spin off him but that requires the Hawks player to be able to disengage enough to do something with the puck be fore getting tied up – it rarely works and too often results in a turnover,

    The play that led to one of the Cane’s goals was a case in point. Zadorov and deHaan were back with time and space to gain possession and start a transition to offense. Zadorov was up by the d-zone blueline with deHaan in the d-zone between Zadorov and the net. The puck got past Zadorov and knocked to the right boards where deHaan went after the puck with plenty of time to beat the Cane’s player to the puck. But for some inexplicable reason deHaan slowed down which let the Canes get to the puck the same time as deHaan – reult: turnover and goal against. WHY? Did he think he would bide time and let the cavalry come to his aide? Guess what – the cavalry ain’t coming because they’re as shell shocked as the d-men. Drives me crazy. Move your feet – move the puck.

  • February 19, 2021 at 10:56 pm
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    I’m not sold on the idea that the Hawks have to commit to playing six defenseman right now. Which forwards are losing ice time? Highmore? Walmark? No one the Hawks are benching at forward is a potential difference maker. The young guys on the blue line who are seeing the extra ice time by playing seven defenseman are all potentially special players. You make room for the talent, right now the Hawks best young talent is on the blue line. Murphys return will make this even more complicated. Trade someone or dress seven (or both,) but they should be the priority for getting ice time. Bowman needs to take the decision out of coach C’s hands and trade someone to make room for the kids.

    Playing Carpenter on the PP is not as egregious as it appears either. Ice time and special teams placements are a carrot and stick reward system. The Hawks didn’t have two particularly good efforts against a really bad Detroit team despite getting the points in the standings. Putting Carpenter on the PP is a more than subtle nudge to the rest of the guys that maybe they were not doing enough to keep that spot. Effort is rewarded, or perhaps it’s lack of effort has consequences… I doubt it will be permanent, coach Q used these kinds of motivations all the time. I always thought Q used to dress Bollig in favor of guys like Stalberg when coach felt the benched player needed a message about putting in enough of an effort. That isn’t why the team lost tonight.

  • February 19, 2021 at 11:22 pm
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    I think Carpenter on pp for 2 reasons, one is puck retrieval and he is a right handed fo guy to go with Strome.

    I don’t have a problem with 7 d playing, this team is alot better than we expected and goaltending is alot better than we expected, the rookie fwds have developed better than we thought, maybe they earned the benefit of the doubt for now that they’re doing the right thing with the D as well. Be interesting to see how Murphy returning is handled.

  • February 19, 2021 at 11:52 pm
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    Mark me down as not having a problem with 7 D for now because the kids need to play – they showed their inexperience tonight but Boquist didn’t lose them this game as some suggest

    In fact of the 3 he was better in the D zone than either Beaudin or Mitchell who were constantly turning the puck over

    But play on I say – they are the future

    Too many here acting like they’re supposed to be as good as CAR uh no

    They have exceeded expectations and people are now acting pissed and calling for Boquist to be benched and calling out JC for having 22 on the PP

    It’s a developmental year and bad games
    are going to happen -get used to it

  • February 20, 2021 at 2:45 am
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    “Overwhelmed” is a bit of an exaggeration. The Hawks were knocking on the door to victory for 85-90% of this game. The Canes (admittedly are a bit more further along toward success than the Hawks at this point) managed to weather the Hawks’ storm and seal the deal, but I’m pretty sure, in their post-game clubhouse vibe, they weren’t cocky. Rather they were breathing a sigh of relief. Likely, the Hawks aren’t yet ready. Likely, more development is needed amongst the Hawks’ promising kids, plus we need a couple more hotshot free agents (NHL or European) this year or next too. However, the good news is, despite Colliton and despite Bowman, the Blackhawks are less hopelessly far away from another cup than we thought a couple months ago, especially if we pluck yet another Swiss League Scoring Champion this year. After all, given recent history, why would that hypothetical player go anywhere else but to the Blackhawks. Kubalik, Suter, ??? You know ??? will trust the Hawks above all other teams! Still not a committed fan of Colliton and Bowman, but they seem to be flexible and earning brownie points. Still, they need to play Reese Johnson and allow some physical play in order to make us harder to play against.

  • February 20, 2021 at 5:31 am
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    We’ve had team victories this year, but last night was a team defeat. We were just outmatched by a better team. IMO, we need more physical play against the ‘Canes. They are better than us at our style of play at this point of our team development, so that means we have to hit them to take them out of rhythm and disrupt their confidence. We just didn’t have the horses to do that last night! Zadarov has not been hitting anyone since Benn spanked him, Strome shies away from all contact, and our best hitters, Reese Johnson and Madison Bowey were in the pressbox. I think it would be good for Boqvist to get his legs and confidence back in Rockford.

    Lankinen (8)
    Kane (8)
    Carlsson (8)
    Mitchell (7)

    Everybody Else (6)

    deHaan (5)
    Boqvist (5)
    Beaudin (5)
    Strome (5)

  • February 20, 2021 at 6:37 am
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    As Hagel goes- so do the Hawks?

    1st game since Hagel has been added- where he looked like Strome- pretty slow
    or at least ( not noticeable- in terms of speed and relentlessness)

    Perhaps-Hagel a little tired? Or Canes were just that good?

  • February 20, 2021 at 6:49 am
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    Two things I would like to see happen:

    1. Neck guards required. Boqvist came very, very, close to getting his neck cut open when he dove to prevent a breakaway. He’s lucky he only got a penalty. It is not a matter of ‘if’ but ‘when’ we see (in high-def) a player get his jugular cut.

    2. Bench doors remain closed during play. I call it the Olczyk Rule because he made that suggestion a few years back. Unless a player is injured (and the Rule can stipulate this) there is no reason a grown man can’t hop the boards.

    Just saying.

  • February 20, 2021 at 7:47 am
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    The Hawks are tired and their PP looked bad and very tired, compared to the Canes-it needs some work.
    This was to be expected-the sky is not falling. Play the kids.
    Hagel looks the most tired, this isn’t the role he had in the CHL. He’s been the energizer bunny and the battery may be on low. They were 7-1-1 going into this game and have played a lot.

    They have played waaayy above expectations! And may be due for a bit of a coming back to earth.

    I like the Canes, they will be tough this year.

  • February 20, 2021 at 8:07 am
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    Tommy Ivan – Zadorov crushed Teuvo in the 3rd with a good hit as TT tried to enter the Hawks zone

    As others have mentioned this sort of game I expected about 3 -4 games ago so they are to be commended for their long stretch of good play and hard work – they’ve played a lot of games in a short period of time (only VAN has played more games) – they are probably a little mentally and physically fatigued

    Not playing until Tuesday now will be good for them

  • February 20, 2021 at 8:18 am
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    Hawks where missing Murphy big time last night.
    He wasn’t there to hit, to stop puck, to be the quarterback the young Dman
    When your best Dman is out don’t expect the kids to take his place for 5-7-9 games …no way they can replace him now ,the kids are to young and needs At least another full year in NHL .Hurricane are a really good team and have experience .so the young Hawks did their best
    Can’t win them all plus players can’t always have their best game every game .
    So funny to read after one lost ……trade Boqvist and Strome Remind me of those guru who want to trade DCat for a draft pick .less then a year ago ..and same with Murphy 2-3 years ago trade for a second or third round pick ….hahaha
    Wait it’s not over …not iff but when the Hawks will loose 2-3 games then you will see all the top negative posters trade the rest of the team for a picks
    When Hawks win you see almost none of those negative guru but when they loose they come back wishing to destroy JC and Stan ect ect……..so funny …not real hockey Fan just basher with probably nothing else to do in life

  • February 20, 2021 at 8:20 am
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    7 D and 11 F does not work, they look confused, the forwards tired. So hard to get into a game playing so few minutes with 7 D. You can’t keep playing Kane and Keith 25 min. a night with so many games in a short season. Let them build some chemistry and get familiar with the same guys . Instead of 7 D give each one of them a night off on a rotation system, Anyway I love my Hawks

  • February 20, 2021 at 8:53 am
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    Deb – the Hawks have won plenty this year with 7D so why does it all of a sudden not work?

    TBL used it a lot last year and their D chemistry was so upset that they won the Cup

  • February 20, 2021 at 8:58 am
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    Wrap – my sister crushed Tuevo in the bread aisle this morning, just saying! I missed that crush that Zadarov put on TT. I do like Zadarov a lot! I think he was a great acquisition! We need that size and intimidation on the back end, especially with all of our smallish d-men on the roster. I agree that we were flat and tired, and that we need to go with 12 forwards and 6 defensemen. To me, Lucas Carlsson is the new Hjallmarsson, and he keeps getting better! Soderberg too, he is so intelligent! Great pick up Stan!

  • February 20, 2021 at 9:12 am
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    Hawks2010 agree this not a 20 game process but one that will continue this season and next, then beyond as the roster is shaped. There will be many ups and downs along the way. The coaches have done an admirable job playing the youngsters that need to play in a way that is returning very positive results. Some such Lankinen and Suter in mid 20s have been given major responsibilities because they are older and ready to assume them. Others have been deployed in roles their development allows them, without using personal biases or gut feelings but letting solid hockey judgement making the decisions.. To say their approach hasn’t been bang on with who is playing and how they play is unfair. Yes Murphy causes a void that exposes the defense and hopefully becomes a big learning curve the young d use to see what they still have to learn and how far they need to go. Right now is fun to watch them play with enthusiasm but let’s realize what we are seeing is really about what the ones who are still around will be showing us in 2 or 3 years. Patience and enjoying the process is still the biggest goal of this season even if winning as many games as possible has replaced losing as many as possible for most.

  • February 20, 2021 at 9:17 am
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    It may boil down to the particular 7 D they put on the ice Wrap.

  • February 20, 2021 at 9:39 am
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    wraparound – Hawks are not Tampa, its just my opinion from playing alot of sports, what I see when I watch, they looked confused.

  • February 20, 2021 at 10:04 am
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    Deb – basing a decision on whether a strategy works or not on one game is obviously too small a sample even if they looked confused for that game

    My point is that the Hawks (not TB) have won using 7D more than they’ve lost so why are people pointing to 7D as the reason they lost?

    To me they lost because their energy and execution weren’t there and they’re mostly inexperienced and physically immature and CAR is a very good team and according to Rod Brindamour their coach played a near ‘perfect’ game not because they played 7D

    I think the 7D strategy considering that 51,74 and 27 need to play but perhaps not 20 minutes a night just yet is a good one- sure it doesn’t have to be every night but there is nothing wrong with the strategy especially in the Hawks situation with their young D

    I don’t see it as a problem – in fact I think it’s working to ease the young D along – the wins they’ve had with 7 D and the development of their young D back up that point

    PS I too have played a lot of sports

  • February 20, 2021 at 10:18 am
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    Out Shot and out played for most of the game. Hawks where due for a lack luster game across the board. Surprisingly, even thought they’re out played on many levels they held it to a one goal game. Clearing the puck while short handed is an epidemic right now, weak back hands, blind passes, even when under little or no pressure. Would have been nice to steal a win, and it would be a steal, with this long break until Tuesday. Hurricanes can play, disciplined defensively and they can score. Go Hawks. Even when they play bad they’re not too bad?

  • February 20, 2021 at 10:27 am
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    Not trying to argue, especially about something this subjective, but before I saw the title of Tab’s article the words that came to me to after the game were outmatched and overwhelmed. That and some quip about Carolina being aptly named, as in the good ship Blackhawks got swamped by the Hurricane.

    I agree with Deb’s observation they looked confused, although I think it had more to do with the Canes’ relentless pressure than the 11F/7D alignment. That and I think there’s something to the notion of them playing with less energy these last few games than they had for the previously. Maybe the condensed schedule along with the rookies hitting the inevitable “rookie wall” playing more frequently and against better players in a more intensified atmosphere plays a role in our rookie class suddenly looking more ordinary than the future HOF’ers we were envisioning. It happens and it was expected.

    But, all is not lost. Quite the contrary. As Wrap mentioned – the postponed game may be a good thing to help recharge the batteries a bit – a blessing in disguise. For the rollercoaster ride the fans are on regarding Colliton – from bum to genius – these are the times that will prove his worth, or not. He has them playing the right way because he has them buying what he’s selling which is easier to do when success is seen. When the winning slows down – we’ll see his ability to lead the team, not so much in wins/losses – but in how they play each game. Will they continue to play the right way when things aren’t going their way. Gaining experience not just for the young players but also for the young coach.

  • February 20, 2021 at 10:40 am
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    Boqvist needs to go to Rockford.
    Strome is not skating now like he was a few games ago. Even though not scoring, he was active in getting to pucks and getting on the back check. He’s not doing that now but that doesn’t mean he can’t do it.
    I’ve been wanting Strome to prove me wrong and he was for awhile. He’s either hobbled or low on intensity lately. Big deal on the postgame about him about to become a father . Maybe mind in other places? Regardless, not thinking trade with him, just wishing he would get back up on his horse and skate.

    Even with Carolina outplaying the Blackhawks a couple of goals were goofy, with the one off the shinpad and the one knocked in by de Haan. Liked seeing them get back to 2-2.

  • February 20, 2021 at 10:43 am
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    The results are not important, the development is. We have struggled in the d-zone for several games and last night there must have been 20+ times where we needed to clear the puck from the zone when we had control and we failed. I am looking for improvement in basic fundamentals like this. I also agree the energy was low and the young guys need to recharge the batteries. It’s also tough to win when 2 goals go in off your own defensemen (although the Canes could easily have had another 3 or 4).

    One small bright note – Dominic Basse a 6th round goalie prospect playing for a weak Colorado College team stopped 42 shots to steal a 2-1 win against Minnesota- Duluth. Colorado College only had 14 shots. Our 3rd round pick, Wyatt Kaiser looks like he is playing top pair for UMD.

  • February 20, 2021 at 11:40 am
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    @Tommy Ivan. As you can probably tell by now I’ve been a huge supporter of Carlsson. I’m not overjoyed that his start in the NHL is playing on the right side but he’s the best they have defensively to plug that hole. He’s not a big hitter and I don’t want him to be more times than not that big hit takes him out of the play. He’s smart with his positioning and awareness he’s in front of the net to clear it and makes sure the goalies can get a clean look.

    He’s actually pretty good offensively and in the rare occasion he gets to play the left side you will see him move up in the O zone. It’s his natural position so he’s more comfortable with it. He was a 4th round draft pick so no fanfare for him. But besides Keith he is their best defensive defenseman they have even playing his off side. All in all I think that Mitchell, Beaudin,Carlsson and even Boqvist with time is our new defense and they will be very good.

  • February 20, 2021 at 11:58 am
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    Get Strome and Boqvist out of this lineup for a few games.Strome can be with his wife and Boqvist can work on his strength and conditioning.Please give Carllson regular minutes with Murphy and get Reese Johnson and another active forward into the lineup.If the Hawks are truly developing let’s stop skating Kane and Keith over 26 minutes a night.Just my 2 cents.

  • February 20, 2021 at 12:09 pm
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    A lot of credit goes to Carolina for how well they played, and rightfully so, but some level of attribution for the loss needs to be placed squarely on Hawks’ unforced errors, or maybe unforced poor play is a better way to say it. They had “umpteen” chances to clear the puck, uncontested and unmolested chances, and they failed to do so. I don’t know if the guys are afraid of DOG penalties but the hard off the glass clears are far and few between. The ring arounds where the only guy waiting for the puck is an opposing player needs to be addressed too.

    Lots of learning opportunities from this game and probably plenty more lie ahead.

  • February 20, 2021 at 12:34 pm
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    Our unexpectedly good play this season reminds me of 2008. As that was the first year for 19/88 there was obviously more to look forward back then, but the wave of new and young talent both then and now have somewhat similar vibes. While we made a run at the playoffs in 2008 we didn’t get there.

    We’re in a tough division and given a lot of guys (including me) saw us headed for the bottom 5 this year it’s been a much quicker than anticipated resurgence. If we could stay in the hunt for a spot for as long as possible just to give the new guys a taste of it that would be fabulous. Just keep playing the games, soaking it up, and playing hard. That’s enough for me.

  • February 20, 2021 at 12:37 pm
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    The reason why the best thing for us is another top 5 skill draft player. Donot win too many games and blow it.

    “tonight was a good level set as to just how far away they are from being a top defensive unit.”

  • February 20, 2021 at 12:55 pm
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    Jordy, think same in 2008 we only had 1/2 a roster and thats what we have now without 20 50 77 19 5 and not everyone of the young wave players even in yet. Once we get the other half then well be close and will still need to add our 11 82 81 27 32 26 91 kind of players to make roster deep/extra deep. Then were a top team again.

    Were right where we want to be big picture wise right now. Add another top elite player like 77 in this draft is vital to winning the Cup. CAR is a nice team/top 5-10 but they only have one elite gem so they wont win its teams like COL that have 2 or 3 gems that once they get the deep they are the teams that win because they have 2 or 3 gems and depth.

    Were on pace for what we need.

  • February 20, 2021 at 1:02 pm
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    Our boys are exceeding all expectations and are fun to watch again. Credit must be given to stanbo and jc as well as the while team for “buying into the system”. One game determines nothing and the people who immediately panic and talk trades haven’t been fans for too long in my opinion. The glass is half full and not 1 person on the planet expected that at the start on this season.

  • February 20, 2021 at 1:07 pm
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    With both Carlsson and Zadorov rfas, although they bring different set of pros and cons to the table are they competing for a spot on the roster next season. Both could be on bubble for protected list in expansion draft, possible neither one is protected but unlikely both are. With Kalynuk under contract and likely pushing for ice time, will both be brought back. Both left shots, can play either point and stronger defensively than offensively but comparisons end there.

  • February 20, 2021 at 1:15 pm
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    Lots of roster spots to be won this year and really even the next. Of course some players are buying into the system and working hard. It’s their job! Nothing wrong with 7D in my opinion. You got what, two rookies and a second season out there. I like what I see overall. Is boqvist trying to get a skate in the face ? Sheesh.

  • February 20, 2021 at 1:41 pm
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    Jordy – agree that the longer they can hang around the playoff picture the better

    It’s going to be very difficult to beat out both DAL and CBL presumably for the last spot but if they’re playing meaningful games down the stretch with a playoff spot still a possibility that’s huge for their development IMO

  • February 20, 2021 at 2:14 pm
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    Lost to a better team. Love the Boqvist bitching again starts right back up.
    Makes you wonder what folks actually watch the game or just bitch to bitch after a game like this.
    So if Boqvist gets benched should Beaudin for a bad game last night?
    Or should de hann sit for being bad again?

  • February 20, 2021 at 2:14 pm
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    Power play not the same without Shaw’s energy and net front havoc.

  • February 20, 2021 at 2:34 pm
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    Demo, makes a huge difference.

    Meaningful games most of the 55 games actually every game except 8 agasint DET. Down the stretch/until were mathematically will be excellent for development yea.

    Just do not win too many overall so we wasted our last chance to get a top 5 skill draft player or top 3 gem.

    After this 55 games the league goes back to normal divisions and were be going up against bigger physical teams COL STL not fast and light TB CAR FLR. Good that we get a season without physical stuff while young players are learning how to play. Then in a yr from now when were a better team/and have more of the team 77 19 5 the young players need to learn how to play agasint larger teams.

    We then will though have more feisty players coming in like Johnson Barratt.

  • February 20, 2021 at 2:36 pm
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    Demo agree, trying to get outta Carpenter what Shaw gave them as a right shot faceoff guy who puck battles, but doesn’t bring same energy. Even though it normally woukd be Toews spot. Wonder how Johnson a pretty good righty fo guy would work there. Lots of energy, goes to front of net, more physical and maybe little faster than Carpenter.

  • February 20, 2021 at 3:12 pm
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    Power play was much more free and fluid early. Now it is looking more clanky and structured, and a focus on getting the puck to Kane. Once Kane gets it – we stand around like old times, waiting to give him a passing lane.

    Move the puck. Then keep moving it. Move yourself. That’s how lanes open up. No lanes – fire the puck from the blue line and dig for rebounds. Soderberg sets a great screen. Use it.

  • February 20, 2021 at 3:41 pm
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    Silent – agree – we much less fluid now than before. But, I think the main problem is zone entries, or lack thereof. Teams have figured out how to defend the PP zone entries and the Hawks spend way too much of the 2 minutes trying to get it into the zone and then keep possession once it’s in there. There was a PP yesterday that was ridiculous in the extreme. I think PP1 gave over to PP2 without ever having the puck in the o-zone other than the lost opening faceoff. One of the problems is that if the Kane/DCat dual attack isn’t working they have no one that can go retrieve the puck when it’s dumped in because the other 3 guys are stationary at the blueline.

    Hopefully someone on the Hawks staff has a better hockey acumen than me and figures out a Plan-B cuz Plan-A is broken.

  • February 20, 2021 at 4:04 pm
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    I had suggested Hagel in Shaw’s old spot earlier and I still think it’s worth a try

    He’s the closest to 65 in style of play

  • February 20, 2021 at 4:35 pm
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    Mrfe92
    I think the best thing to do is maybe trade all the young Dmen we have and get some draft pick and bitch against all the new draft pick because Stan is bad and Jc is the worst coach in nhl history. And also get a second Or third round pick for DCat and Strome . ( to please the guru who love to bitch )
    But I really love the new young wave of players we have now,
    What a nice fun team to look on the ice and soo young .
    Go young Hawks Go

  • February 20, 2021 at 5:12 pm
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    Wasnt that the night and day black and white difference in the PP the players were moving the whole time compared to last 5? yrs were we stand around and try to make perfect pass instead of MOVE YOUR ASSS and keep moving around and things work all of sudden. Rocket there.

  • February 20, 2021 at 5:32 pm
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    Top teams/notice no Canadian teams in the top 10
    TB
    STL
    VEG
    BOS
    COL

    Top 10
    DAL
    CAR
    ISL
    PHI
    WAS
    TOR

    Midtier
    FLR
    CLB
    MTL
    WIN
    EDM

    Thats your top 16 teams right there is no divisions.

  • February 20, 2021 at 5:50 pm
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    Everybody else is 17-31 well can’t put any teams with OTT DET there in a league of there own.

    17-29
    CHI 3
    NJ 2
    PIT 2
    MIN 1
    ARI 1
    CAL 0
    LA 0
    NYR 1
    SAN 1
    BUF 2
    ANA 2
    VAN 4
    NAS 4

  • February 20, 2021 at 5:54 pm
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    ER
    Agree the entries are a big issue. Beaudin’s turnover was brought by pressuring him and forcing him right, putting him on his backhand. Since then he has made earlier decisions when carrying the puck, not letting the pressure get to him. And now he has been replaced by 27.

    The timing is off in a big way. Some time off to regroup, watch some tape, and figure it out. Let’s see what gets changed. Keith should be able to handle it, but I want to see the kids get this figured out.

    This is when the coaches earn their money. Time to teach.

  • February 20, 2021 at 5:55 pm
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    When looking at the landscape of the league it feels like we’re ahead of every team in the 17-31 range. That’s without 20 50 77 19 so now that 20 50 are going we do have 77 19 44 coming and another possible elite player from this draft that’s 4 top 9 players and if we that Russian dude/the next bread man that’s 5 top 9 players.

    Which makes us deep just like that having a good young wave as the base/bulk of the roster and enough elite/good/role players that have done it all before or not too old vets that are good.

  • February 20, 2021 at 5:55 pm
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    So Lucas Carlsson gets more minutes than Beaudin, is more consistent than Boqvist but the writers say when Murphy returns Carlsson is the odd man out ?

  • February 20, 2021 at 5:57 pm
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    We’re going to be a lot better next yr then this yr with the whole team and we should go right to the top of the mid tier teams right then.

    Then earn/pay our dues working way up the top 10 teams list and be a top 5 team again once the young wavers start there prime yrs.

  • February 20, 2021 at 6:22 pm
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    Lukas Reichel: 17 games 6 G 8 A 14 PTS + 11

    Drew Commesso 6 games 3.08 GA .917 S% 5-1-0

    Landon Slaggert 19 games 5G 9 A 14 PTS +1

    Wyatt Kaiser 22 games 0 G 9 A 9 PTS +3 (Wyatt also doesn’t turn 19 until July 31st..super young)

    Our top four picks having some nice starts to their professional careers..
    Side note: Luke Tuch was drafted by Montreal right behind Drew Commesso..anyone think that Montreal may be willing to part with him and one of their many mid round picks for a Janmark/Soderberg combination at the trade deadline? Hmmm..make the call Stan..get us back a scoring forward with some size for the future..

  • February 20, 2021 at 6:35 pm
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    @craig..agreed..Carlsson has become in a very quiet way, quite effective..he doesn’t score so he’s fallen through the cracks..but I’d love to see some more min out of him..but the only way to do that is to start giving DeHaan and Zadorov some maintenance days..especially once Murphy is back..8 blueliners not including Bowey and Kalynuk..lots of evaluating still to do..maybe that’s why Colliton is sticking to the 7 man rotation..he figures at least this way, he can get 11 min of time for two defensemen instead of benching one..but to play devil’s advocate, there isn’t much more to evaluate when it comes to DeHaan. His minutes once a week could easily go to a younger player..

  • February 20, 2021 at 7:14 pm
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    I have read that Matthias Ekholm (Nashville) will be in high demand at the TDL. This should bode well for moving DeHaan to whoever doesn’t get Ekholm. They both have one year left on their deals, DeHaan makes $.75m more per year but the Hawks should be open to retaining at least that much. Hopefully a deal can be done in March to open up some minutes for the young guys.

  • February 20, 2021 at 7:16 pm
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    Bowman has a wealth of dmen right now, and likely will deal one or more from a position of strength. De Haan likely gets moved this season, but probably not until closer to the TDL. Until then, we need him in the lineup to prove he is healthy and able. With Murphy coming back soon, there will be some tough decisions made, but I don’t expect to see de Haan sitting out games. Cut his minutes? I agree. Same with Keith. But who takes 44 if he isn’t playing steady minutes? We need to keep his value up.

    For once, we deal from strength. Let’s hope he stays healthy. Maybe a game off when we get to a 3 in 4 situation, yes. I could see that.

  • February 20, 2021 at 7:18 pm
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    Same page MS.

  • February 20, 2021 at 8:42 pm
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    Hawks2010,I give up.All of the Boqvist/Strome people have shouted me down.Sure,what the hell,keep rolling Boqvist and Strome out there the rest of the year.Sit Carllson,Beaudin,and rotate DeHaan and Zadorov in and out of the lineup. Leave Kalynuk in Rockford and Bowey in the press box.If that is the chosen route,just stop playing Kane and Keith 26 minutes a night. Give Boqvist 25 minutes a night and match Strome up against the opposing #1 line so I can see what I am missing about these 2 players.Colliton should stop protecting them and put them out there big minutes.This year is a development year anyway.When its all over everyone can say how wrong I was about these 2 and I will take my beating like a man.

  • February 20, 2021 at 9:05 pm
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    I just watched most of the TB/CAR game and the Canes won 4-0. Canes did to Bolts what they did to the Hawks – relentless pressure all game long. TB didn’t have nearly as many unforced errors / self inflicted wounds as the Hawks did but Carolina put it to them pretty good. No time – no space to make plays. Carolina playing awesome right now. Good thing tonight’s game was postponed because the tape from the game last night will provide enough learning material – no need to overdo it and get whomped twice.

  • February 20, 2021 at 9:14 pm
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    TimW – ask yourself this question – what is the primary objective for this season? If you answer anything other than develop the young players – you’re wrong. This isn’t about your opinions versus contrary opinions – it’s Stan and the Hawks coaches deciding the right course of action for each player and and the team. No offense to you but I trust the coaches’ opinions on players more than yours, or mine for that matter.

  • February 20, 2021 at 9:46 pm
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    Tim-W, I am curious what you think the ceiling will be on Carlson (and the rest of the Hawks defenseman.) Is Carlson a legitimate top four or even a top pair guy on a Cup contending team in the next three years? If not, what does success look like for him in the next 2-3 years? Carlson is 23, still a kid that has a few years still to grow, what does success look like for him? And by success, I mean, what is the minimum he needs to accomplish to be called a success. What do you expect of his potential?

  • February 20, 2021 at 10:02 pm
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    Ebony,I agree.And the coaches opinions have been to limit ice time and shelter both of these players.Why not just roll Boqvist and Strome out for regular shifts?I think Carllson can slot in at a stay at home 5 or 6th D man at the least.I just don’t know how anyone can evaluate players that do not have the basics or play soft and lackidaisically.What do you guys see as the future upside for those 2?

  • February 20, 2021 at 11:18 pm
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    Well, I’m still glass half full with Boqvist and Strome, so obviously, my take on their ceilings will lean positive. I think Boqvist can be a top four blueliner who plays 18-19 minutes a night and leads one of the two pp units..he’ll obviously need a partner who is a little more defensively minded, but his offensive potential is near elite and he’s barely scratched the surface..so maybe a Tyson Barrie type? There’s always room in the top four for a defenseman who can score 45-50 points even if a lot of that scoring will come because of a ton of pp time..

    As for Strome, trying to picture his ceiling means focusing on what he does well and that is setting up his wingers for scoring opportunities and providing some goal scoring himself. His vision and passing are very good and he has a good wrister when he utilizes it. Now, where does that place him? Imo, on a third line that is more scoring focused. But this also depends on how Colliton wants to structure his forward lines. Right now, there isn’t a lot of scoring in the bottom six, so Strome stands out as out of place. If the Hawks were a better team, with better wingers, Strome would look better as well. All of this conjecture requires us to speculate on a roster that isn’t nearly as good as it should be over the next year or two. But in a perfect world, where the Hawks are deep enough at forward to have a third line of Reichel-Strome-Kayumov, then yes, I think Strome would be fine. But if that’s not how Colliton wants to structure his lines, and he wants more of a defensive minded, checking 3rd line, then Strome won’t be resigned and Kurashev is probably our 3rd line center of the future behind Toews and Dach.

    Also keep in mind that as Hawks fans, we probably look at a centerman like Dave Bolland as the perfect third line center. He could score, he would go into the crease, and he was really good defensively. But remember his linemates? In 2010, they were Ladd and Versteeg..in 2013, they were Shaw and Saad and when Q hit the line blender in the 2103 finals, he was out there with Frolik and Bickell..each of those players could have at least spent some time in a top six role but the Hawks were so deep at forward that they were all relegated to the third line..and when Bolland didn’t have a surplus of young forwards to play with every night? His numbers crashed..same with Strome(I don’t mean Strome is as good defensively as Bolland, only that Bolland was in quite the position to succeed)..give him snipers and he’ll put pucks on their sticks all day..he’s probably never going to drive line play, but he can feed his wingers pucks for days if that’s the type of third line Colliton wants..

  • February 20, 2021 at 11:29 pm
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    It should be fine for them to be here for this and next yr to see. Same for 92. Then decide or have an idea. Not 1st pair or line put them in spots they can play full min based on other teams/competition for them like your saying. For the Defensemen I would wait until 200 games before doing anything.

    We should keep every prospect until they are deemed not otherwise give them plenty of time if any are still not getting it/progressing enough then make the moves.

    I am for trading whatever it takes/picks mostly to keep most young wave players from expansion. A 5th is worth keeping whoever because we can always get a 5th back from tradeline trades/other.

    We need to keep most so we can see and get whoever turns out to be good. Let’s no waste any prospects.

  • February 20, 2021 at 11:31 pm
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    My gut and I have nothing against these guys is BoQ stays and 17 92 go long term wise.

  • February 20, 2021 at 11:33 pm
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    Gather the best 23 players we can. I want full send players no half way in people.

    HHNL deep quality players are not half way players.

  • February 20, 2021 at 11:37 pm
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    Danault is like Bolly. When is he a ufa?

  • February 21, 2021 at 12:29 am
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    I’m with Slayer as a glass half full guy on both Boqvist and Strome. If I had to give odds on one over the other I would favor Boqvist because (1) he’s 3 years younger so more growth time, and (2) he can improve his deficiencies (strength) to a larger degree than Strome can (speed).

    I’m still optimistic on both though, and the thing to keep in mind is that we don’t need the 2022/23 Boqvist in 2021 – we need the 2022/23 Boqvist to be there in 2022/23 and we need the coaches to do what they think is right to ensure he’s given every opportunity to get there. Stating the coaches should be handling the situation differently is tantamount to saying you know better than they do. We all have our opinions but consider they are the professionals with a gamut of inside information unavailable to the amateurs on the outside – like us.

  • February 21, 2021 at 12:59 am
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    @morrison..Danault is ufa this offseason but there were reports last Fall that Montreal tried to extend him for 6 years at 30 mil and he rejected their contract offer..so I would let some other team overpay him..besides, even if he took a ”sweetheart” deal to come back to Chicago, he’s said repeatedly that he wants to center a top line or a 2nd line..he’s tired of being a 3rd line center..but in Chicago, that’s exactly what he would be..so I think the Hawks will pass..Bowman wants to keep some cap space available..I think he’s going to see if he can get a pick/prospect from a team pushed up against the cap the same way Carolina and Dallas took advantage of Chicago’s cap crunch in years past..

    PS-While we wait to see how/if/when Strome starts showing more, at least we can take solace in the fact that he’s not Jake Virtanen..four points in his last 31 games at $2.55 mil per for this year and next..yikes..that’s four points more then me except I’ve been at home for those 31 games lol..

  • February 21, 2021 at 6:25 am
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    Bowman’s Boys

    Strome and Nylander are Bowman’s special projects – failed 1st Rounders he thinks he can magically transform into the players they were expected to be. Both are talented but lack fight and determination. Bowman’s ego will not allow him to admit his mistakes.

    Boqvist is different because he is the Blackhawks 1st Round pick and not a cast off. He too is a Bowman special project. I have no comment on whether he will fulfill the expectations of a 1st Rounder or not. But, like Nylander he will be given more opportunities, more time and more slack than other players.

    Can anyone ever remember Bowman admitting a mistake?

  • February 21, 2021 at 6:27 am
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    Be great if Strome could fit with Toews and Kubalik on a line behind the super line 12 77 88. Might where he couod be most effective. Then let Suter, Kurashev for 3rd C. Then Nylander , Reichel, or another youngster or european ufa on the 3rd line to start next year. Then have Kampf, Hagel, Johnson and Entwistle for checking line.

  • February 21, 2021 at 8:04 am
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    Ian,If Strome and Toews ever play on the same line for any longer than a shift change or a powerplay I will become a Red Wing fan and start eating Little Caesers pizza.I like your 1st and 4th lines though.If you have Boqvist as your future #1 Defenseman I will also become a Predator fan and join in singing Tim McGraw songs after every goal!

  • February 21, 2021 at 8:25 am
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    Slayer, I look at Danault as another Saader a really good two way FW. Is that what Danault is? I am not really sure.

    If Danault is a really good two way player like Saad and Saad was at 6m then 5m would be fine and hes a center which is better.

    Tell him hes going to be 2nd line center behind 77 and then make him play where it fit better for our roster.

    People say the 12 77 88 line how about a 12 24 88 line and have Dach on other line.

  • February 21, 2021 at 8:37 am
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    24 is Danault.

  • February 21, 2021 at 8:40 am
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    TimW obviously Stromes 2 year deal is to give him a chance. He’s more suited to a top 6 role than a bottom 6 and options are limited if top line 12 ,77.88, sooner see if it could work and fail, than not try something and regret it. Lots of bigger bodies coming through system now, some more physical than others. Teply, Morrison, Regula, Krutil to name a few in Rfd., plus the likes of Vlassic, Slaggert, Moberg, Creiver, Philips, Saarela example in system. Seeing what is there for skilled players now is the big thing and who the keepers are, our opinions who has the skill to stick right now just that, everybody has one. The coaches will do it their way to try and get it right to keep who they feel needs to stay.

  • February 21, 2021 at 8:54 am
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    Well I guess in terms of caphit we can add about 3 or 4 elite players maybe very good not elite around the 5/6 m mark once Seabs caphit is not on 23man.

    So we’re looking at who Russian player maybe he’s only 3 at first say that’s one we have room for three more. Now when 77 needs his first bridge it’s going to be a big bridge the other prospects won’t need a bridge like 12 and 77 did though.

    So we can add those kind of players just donot get trapped so we can’t maneuver. NO need to be afraid to get players like Danault if he is a excellent two way top 9 center. And there should no problem having that much in caphit in your top three centers 77 24 19 or do what Ian said and have 19 on wing if people are afraid of too much of a caphit on a player on the 3rd line.

  • February 21, 2021 at 9:00 am
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    Wanted to say other day the comments/posts here in the last few wks have been exceptional. Sure winning 5ough more that the young wave players are really good and it’s like 2009 when my friend asked me people say that about a group of players all the time and they do it win. I told him then/in 2009 these guys are different.

    Plus still having 19 88 goes a long ways to. Even Batman and Robin had players like 11 81 to set the tone. The right kind of tone. Point is every young wave player even those guys need to have the ideal players with them along the way to win.

  • February 21, 2021 at 9:02 am
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    Not to get all philosophical here but people have their own unique perspective on things, often times vastly different than another person’s perspective. Probably the biggest influence in forming their perspective is their outlook on life – the glass half full versus the glass half empty extremes and everyone else in between. People are generally wired to be builders or destroyers – people who optimistically build up and people who pessimistically tear down. There’s something inherent in each of us that leads us in the direction we go. I don’t understand more than that but I recognize it in myself and often in others.

    I optimistically build up hope for Boqvist, Strome and others because that’s how I’m wired – it’s just me being true to my nature. Others pessimistically tear down Boqvist, Strome and others because that’s how they’re wired – they’re just being true to their nature. It’s very rare to find a bridge over the chasm between the perspectives. Probably the best we can hope for is tolerance for the other. I admit my tolerance is not what it could be – should be. I could pledge to be better – but I know my nature pretty well … and … probably not going to happen. :-)

  • February 21, 2021 at 9:02 am
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    Slayer, I am for getting a young prospect like Bolly/Danault and have him the entire time from eld so caphit are low for awhile and we can stack that way.

    Just want another player like those guys.

  • February 21, 2021 at 9:07 am
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    Ha is that the new logo/team name of red wings.

    The DET little Caesars.

    God is there anything worse then being a flatlanders.

  • February 21, 2021 at 9:17 am
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    ER, that reminds me of when they interviewed Kaner on the ice after the game 6 win in BOS. So Kaner your going to behave yourself with the celebrations this time.

    Not a chance. Not a chance,!

  • February 21, 2021 at 9:26 am
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    The entire team was overwhelmed, Canes pressure forced tons of turn overs….but also Boquist needs to be removed from the PP, he has shown nothing to have earned a spot on the #1 unit….the #2 unit shows better puck movement and are less predictable with entries and PP set up in the O zone.

  • February 21, 2021 at 9:35 am
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    Ebony,I am a very positive person when it comes to young players. I have been advocating to see Hagel,Kurashev,Mitchell,Barratt,and Kalynuk since the Hawks obtained or drafted them.I go glass half empty when I don’t see the very basics from a player or do not see any improvement in their play.I can see if some think a switch might turn on somewhere down the line for Boqvist.Strome,s future and who he is has been decided after having 4 years to improve in my opinion.

  • February 21, 2021 at 9:48 am
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    Slayer, I am willing to wait to get that prime yrs ufa two way FW in Danault/like a Hoss a player like that for when we’re really ready and keep stacking now.

    When we donot keep Saad we therefore to me be adding two of these kind of player s to get back. That’s in addition to young wave. One can be a top 6 player and other can be a Danault/Bolly Cup quality on the 3rd line player.

  • February 21, 2021 at 10:03 am
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    TimW – it’s not that black and white – there is multi-layered nuance in our perspectives. It’s not that a glass half empty person sees EVERYTHING from a pessimistic perspective anymore than a glass half full person sees EVERYTHING from an optimistic perspective – but there is a natural tendency to color our perspective in one direction or the other that is more or less hard wired in us.

    Reality is what reality is – it’s our perspectives that are in play. You’ve written off Boqvist and Strome because that’s how you perceive reality. My perception of that same reality is a more optimistic viewpoint. And, it’s not necessarily a patience versus impatience thing because I’m not by nature a patient person and I tend to be more proactive in doing what needs to be done rather than waiting for things to just kind of happen on their own, so to speak. But in this case, especially for Boqvist, I don’t see the urgency in coming to a final judgement – in this case I think patience is the way to go and not a small dose of patience either – lots of patience like maybe another couple years of patience.

    Call me Pollyanna but that’s the way I see this.

  • February 21, 2021 at 10:06 am
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    Tim W – agree that Strome’s future with the Hawks seems less certain than Boquist’s

    I’m definitely half full with Boquist – he’s still the youngest player on the team and has a lot of talent and will one day physically mature (I promise) however although I think Strome could yet improve his game I’m not confident that he will

    I agree that he could be an asset as a skilled 3C with speedy wingers – once 77 and 19 are back perhaps Nylander and Kurashev for example but if he is going to want a big bump in his $3 million/year salary when his contract expires after next season that might determine his fate more than anything

    Even as a good 3C is $4-5 million/year too much – probably

    His fate will also be tied to how Kurashev/Suter/Reichel/Kayumov and others develop – he may be squeezed out by younger faster skilled players at lower cap hits

  • February 21, 2021 at 10:51 am
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    TimW one reason i see alot of potential in Boqvist is that the rest of the players he is compared to were nowhere near an Nhl rink at his age because they weren’t as far ahead in their development. That’s why the i saw enough of him argument holds no water with me, actually see having Nhl time at this early stage as a plus that may pay off in spades for him. As for Strome and Nylander next season could be their make or break year as far as showing they can be part of the future. Even if the organization doesn’t look at them as fitting, playing them and upping their trade value is not a bad thing either.

  • February 21, 2021 at 10:59 am
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    Carlsson not practicing today Strained groin, Beaudin on 4th pair with Bowey, Murphy Zadorov, Boqvist with Dehasn and Mitchell with Keith. Strome to 3rd line wing, Kurashev 4th line wing and Wallmark 2C. Few days off so may not mean alot. Apso same pp1 unit and working 9n entries today, much needed.

    Also not sure how true but saw where Jake Wise injured and not playong with BU, Blackhawks interested in getting him to Rfd., probably Ahl deal rather than elc to work on his development there.

  • February 21, 2021 at 11:13 am
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    Strome might be one of those players that needs a kick in the ass to keep him focused

  • February 21, 2021 at 11:30 am
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    Strome will be 24 in a couple of weeks. It is rare for someone that age and that far along to make a quantum leap. I don’t see it happening and I strongly expect the younger guys will drink his milkshake.

    Boqvist meh. Fans gets too invested in prospect’s draft position. Ask yourself this; if you knew nothing about either Boqvist (8th overall) and Kurashev (120th) and watched them for a few games who would you choose? (Same for Nylander who was also 8th overall).

    Boqvist definitely has offensive talent, but so did Runblad (his highlight tapes from the SEL were unreal). I’m still pulling for him (Boqvist) but he has a lot of work to do.

    I’m simplifying a bit but in today’s game players need to be good skaters, hard on the puck, and skilled. Few have all three but most have at least two. Right now the guys I mentioned are mostly skills only (although Nylander is a better skater than the other two). One tool players don’t make it.

  • February 21, 2021 at 11:49 am
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    This is probably going to ruffle a lot of feathers but I don’t hold Danault in nearly the high regard that so many of you do. I think he’s a pretty good 2-way player that I would love to have on the Hawks 3rd/4th line – but he is not this near mythical god come down from Mt. Olympus to play with the mortals. His reputation among Hawks fans exceeds his accomplishments, with an assist from Stan hate for trading him. He’s a 0.5ppg player for his career which is not top-6, more like #3C. Talk of him being disgruntled with his role in Montreal only makes me want him less.

  • February 21, 2021 at 12:05 pm
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    Jordy, disagree on late developers, Adam Oates didn’t make Nhl until he was 24 and put 1420pts. Martin St. Louis on his 25th birthday had 4 goals and 16 assists in Nhl. Dirk Graham made nhl at 26, not rare at all for players careers to bloom in mid 20s. Especially common that defensemen bloom in mid 20s, so Boqvist he has a ton of time on his side yet.

  • February 21, 2021 at 12:06 pm
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    Interesting comments from Eliotte Friedman last night that free agency this year could be very ugly with the current financial situation. Lots of decent names being put on waivers with zero interest because they have multiple years remaining on their contracts. For a guy like Danault he may come to regret passing up the long term deal last year, I would be surprised if anyone tops that. Luckily we only did a two year deal with Strome. I was in favor of moving him over the summer and still feel that way. I’m not a believer in the “get him more skilled wingers to succeed” theory. I agree it would make him better offensively but it doesn’t change his other weaknesses. Maybe we can find a team battling for a playoff berth that needs some offense and we can move him for a strong prospect. I would take that deal in a heartbeat.

  • February 21, 2021 at 12:08 pm
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    To finish my thought – If we move Strome this year I believe there will be some very solid players available in free agency for $3m per year given the financial environment.

  • February 21, 2021 at 12:57 pm
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    Highly doubt a playoff team would trade anything of value for Strome this year with another year remaining on his contract after this one consdering the flat cap environment

    I think TDL 2022 is more possible or summer of 22 if he is going to be traded – thta’s when you’d get maximum return for him IMO

    I don’t believe in trading players for whatever you can get just to be rid of them – Strome on an expiring contract in 2022 with another year under his belt will have some value should the Hawks decide to trade him then

  • February 21, 2021 at 1:05 pm
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    Questions I have:

    1. Are Strome and/or Nylander worthy of being a top 6 forward in the NHL?

    2. If not, have they been given sufficient opportunity to develop and prove themselves?
    (Nylander 84 games and 4 years in the NHL / Strome 183 games and 5 years)

    3. If, they have been given sufficient opportunity, what is preventing them from becoming a top 6 forward in the NHL? If not, what opportunities do they need to be provided?

  • February 21, 2021 at 1:06 pm
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    MS interesting comnents on fa this summer, that makes you wonder if a team wanting to load up for a run next year wanting to take advantage of fas signing low would do to clear space. Maybe late 1st pick Craig mentioned he heard Bowman was looking for could be part of helping a team clear some capspace to do that. Certainly opens some possibilities for deals for prospects or picks with the right teams.

  • February 21, 2021 at 1:30 pm
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    @Ian: I could post a list of ex-first rounders who didn’t pan out at a later date but suffice to say it would be extremely long. The exceptions you noted are part of a rare group.

  • February 21, 2021 at 1:39 pm
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    Just to add, not so much Oates but both Graham and St. Louis were hard little guys which is not something that can be said of 8, 17, and 92. Being hard is an issue of character and desire, not time. If Boqvist wants to learn about it he should watch Elias Pettersson; 176 pounds with a huge target on his back and competes for everything. Warrior.

  • February 21, 2021 at 1:51 pm
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    Jordy as you said to long to list them all, I just highlighted a couple for you, but look it up number of slow developers in this league over the years. Its actually almost as rare as well done steak and as you pointed as well they come in all types and sizes.

  • February 21, 2021 at 1:59 pm
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    Hawks prospect Cam Morrison Out 5-6 months following knee surgery.

    Old news but icehogs dman Anton Lindholm Out 4-6 weeks with a hand injury.

  • February 21, 2021 at 2:26 pm
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    WIJG,

    1. TBD
    2. No
    3. Moot – see #2.

  • February 21, 2021 at 2:59 pm
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    ebony

    my wife described me as a pessimist and i countered that i was a realist. i am also a numbers guy.

    my problem with 17 is his lack of a motor and refusal to play a physical game. he’s 24 next month. those are traits that a hockey player is not likely to acquire for the first time at that age. i would be thrilled to see 17 take the ice on tuesday and play with hagel’s enthusiasm and shaw’s toughness. it would be wonderful for the rebuild. the odds are just against that happening. i have no reason to dislike him. just don’t see the light going for him to be the player the hawks need him to be.

    nothing against 28 either. just don’t like him taking minutes away from others because he was an 8th pick. imo better off in rockford now.

  • February 21, 2021 at 3:01 pm
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    Dream all you want about trading whoever for whatever ultimately another team has to make the offer. Teams dont just go around saying “gosh, we gotta trade this second round pick.” Many players are available. Heck sta al stood out to me on Detroit. Given a choice on a playoff run are you taking Marc or any balckhawks. Aside from keith I’d take marc easy choice. Less commitment and some motivation given free agency. Speaking of defense Boqvist is fine. Personally I’d have in I’m the ahl for now. It wouldn’t kill him and unless you are trying to protect Carlson by not playing him the ten more games or whatever it is. Btw Seabrook will likely not need to be protected if hes out much longer.

    As far as Strome goes he seems to try but phsysically hes not there. I’d look at his off ice training. I dont have enough information on that to really comment, he seems to want to do well I dont question his desire. He is just not getting it done. Just from my eyes i would say he does a little bit too much puck watching but that very well could be part of the development plan. I’ve noticed the same thing about boqvist which makes me think the whole puck watching methodology may very well be part of the development, but who knows i dont talk to the coaching staff so I’m left guessing.

  • February 21, 2021 at 4:29 pm
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    Just saw a great clip from an interview with Doc Emrick (from NHL on NBC). He is asked if there is any call he would want back. He immediately says Patrick Kane’s goal to win the 2010 Cup. He is given a chance to re-do the call – lot of fun to watch.

  • February 21, 2021 at 4:30 pm
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    Honest it was Bowman who made comments about taking on a contract this summer in his podcast interviews. Craig said he heard that they were trying to land a late 1st maybe early 2nd. If teams want to move some cap they will know Bowman is open to taking on some cap if still thinking as he was in fall, so never what could happen, definitely could be an opportunity there.

  • February 21, 2021 at 4:59 pm
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    Ian – I remember that comment from Bowman about taking on a bad contract in return for a sweetener since for the first time they would have that cap flexibility

    I was looking forward to that happening say like we gave up TT with Bickell or Hino with Hossa’s contract

    I’d rather have an NHL ready prospect or young player than a draft pick – moves the rebuild on faster

  • February 21, 2021 at 6:13 pm
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    Ian indeed he did say that about adding a free agent, however that was erred on the side of caution as the rookies were unknowns, and really despite several showing some promise the fact is its early and they really havent faced much of a challenge or a full rostered opponent (noting of course Toews Dach Shaw Smith Seabrook debrincat etc) so while we can call even playing field just the same can be said. Detroit is just awful. Look my point is there is indeed open roster spots next year in particular at forward. Look at who is signed and you’ll see such is the case. Something like five open roster slots. So yeah, of course.

    I think the Blackhawks should have been trying to land “bad” contracts for the past few seasons. I would have instead of dehaan or konitz etc, it all adds up. I have to believe had there not been a lucic meal swap that might have been some good action to get a piece of. There are quite a few players clearing waivers so there is no shortage of players to pick up right now. I say pull the trigger if the deal is good, but I’m not the one writing the checks. Not to mention draft uncertainty which I’ll digress on as I’ve posted about that in detail many times here (not that I’m asking you to search) . Anyway seems obvious to me stan should trade for a bad contract with a sweetener but I’m thinking if he could have he would have by now, not that he still cant and should. Heck he can even maybe move IR smith as part of the process. I mean…hes on IR so not taking up cap space…or is tha only long term IR either way expiring contract and pretty sure they can retain salary any which way. Look there is lots of options. He can even move Murphy or Zadarov or anyone you can think of as part of the process. Heck usually I say you may as well just ignore the fourth round and on in the draft but surely there is some undesired million dollar contract that can come with a fifth rounder…again noting statistically that fifth rounder will amoint to nothing and I’m not the one writing the checks.

    Bowman is allegedly looking for more high end picks and that’s great but again he has zero control as to who offer what for what. Stan may have to deal someone he wants to keep to make that first round pick happen…and remember the better that team does, the worse that pick gets.

    Stan had quite a bit of flexibility right now and isnt quite set for the Seattle draft but is only one or two moves away from having the team set. I’ve heard for a while now lankinen is potentially seattles target and may be the ones sweatienng things up to get him. Keep in mind I heard this before he even played a game on the nhl. I would assume a contract extension would be part of that offering If the Blackhawks can find a viable fill in and commessos is around the corner would you deal Lankinen? Btw I dont think commesso is around the corner but who knows right. Great goalies are very hard to come by and really it’s too early to say where Lankinen will be two years from now, but I must say he played pretty darn well so far. I would really like to see stan sign another goalie for the ahl to get someone else in the pipeline but what do I know?
    Wrap and yes I would usually strongly agree on prospect over a pick, depends on their forecasting regarding timing with contracts in this case. It would seem there is a lot of options.

  • February 21, 2021 at 7:12 pm
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    @ebonyraptor..agree regarding Danault..one of the reasons he’s been placed on a pedestal by Hawks fans is that for the last three years, he’s been making $3 mil a season..so from a contract standpoint, he’s provided exceptional value to Montreal as a centerman that can center any of a team’s top three lines..however, as you mentioned, his limited offensive ability means that he won’t outperform his next contract. Couple that with the fact that the Hawks have been looking for his intangibles since we traded him, and it’s been frustrating to watch him put it all together with Montreal. But again, at $6 mil a year, he’s not for us.

    @morrison..agree with waiting until the Hawks are a better team and then trying to add a ”Danualt” like player..strong at the dot, defensively responsible, etc..similar to how we added Vermette in 2015..but adding a player like Danualt next year would mean wasting the first two years of his contract while we wait for the team to develop around him. Let’s continue to add young players with upside on cheap contracts and then add a ”Danualt” once we’re closer to contending.

    @honest guy, not a chance I deal Lankinen right now..the Hawks have a lot of cap space not even playing right now(Seabrook + Nylander + Dach + Shaw + Toews = 21 mil in cap space)..having both our goalies only count 1.65 mil against the cap for this year and next is an incredible luxury to have while Stan tries to sort out who is healthy, who’s back next year, etc..short of Seattle’s first round pick, I don’t even think about moving our goalie..if Lankinen is the real deal, we’ve found a real steal..look at teams like Montreal, Florida and Tampa..they’re limited in terms of who they can add on offense and defense because each of their starting goalies counts 10 mil against the cap..

  • February 21, 2021 at 8:49 pm
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    I can’t imagine if he continues playing the way he has that there is any kind of chance Lankinen isn’t protected on the draft. Time will tell.

    Was thinking more around draft time before fa starts maybe take a contract like Boychuk or something from a teaming eyeing fa agency to bloster roster next year, likely be a few teams looking for trading partner so should be opportunities if price is right. A prospect ok with me, just saying a pick he was mentioned to be looking for, likely be other finishers involved as well in deal, usually is. Tdl likely more contending teams wanting an expiring contract this year, not liable to be bad contracts moving. Smith on ir for sure counts against cap as does ltir to, only way ltir helps a cap strapped team is player already on roster goes on ltir or do like Tampa did and make caproom by trading a roster player with enough caphit to fit him in. Probably not an option as that is rare and a last resort approach to get compliant to open season.

  • February 21, 2021 at 9:07 pm
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    Ian. I know you like the draft. Here is what I know. The Hawks love Beniers(everybody does) and they love William Eklund from Sweden.
    However because of the early season success, they doubt they will have a shot at either guy in the draft.
    Keep an eye on Matthew Coronato from the Chicago Steel. He has Hagels energy/motor and might be available in the 15 to 20 range.

  • February 21, 2021 at 9:13 pm
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    I think Shaw and Seabs are both on IR so they also count against the cap

  • February 21, 2021 at 9:56 pm
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    Could the Hawks be in on the sudden Jack Eichel sweepstakes along with the Kings and the Rangers?The Kings have a lot to offer,,Turcotte/Byfield and draft picks.Eichel is signed through 2025,26 season. If Toews is not coming back could Stan quickly fill that top center/superstar void?

  • February 21, 2021 at 10:01 pm
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    Craig thats interesting thanks, he’s having a big year and sounds like lots of potential. Slated for Harvard next year, seems alot of scouts saying late 1st early 2nd for him. Either they rate him higher like Reichel or want a late 1st or early 2nd with him in mind.

    Wrap your right they do count . For normal ltir you count their caphits, then go over cap by amount of their caphits is why you just can’ t buy capspace.

  • February 22, 2021 at 7:50 am
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    ER, you did not answer # 3: If not, what opportunities do they need to be provided?

    Since you think Strome and Nylander have not been given sufficient opportunity to develop and prove themselves, what opportunities do the Blackhawks need to provide them?

  • February 22, 2021 at 8:18 am
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    Craig-
    Coronato- stats look great- Is he has fast/quick as Hagel? Surprised he isn’t higher in Draft ranks. What is the knock on him?

  • February 22, 2021 at 8:24 am
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    WIJG, I thought that was self evident. I interpret your use of the word “opportunities” as “playing time”. Continue giving them playing time until something pushes your hand and it is no longer worth doing – and I don’t think the Hawks have that point yet.

  • February 22, 2021 at 9:09 am
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    Bluto his speed is big part of Coronato’s game. Also like that he said he was making a committment to improving his ability to be more physical and be strong when battling for pucks. Craig maybe able to add more, but he could be projected lower because he is committed to Ncaa next year and could be a few years before he begins his elc. Maybe the Blackhawks see him as mid 1st rd. pick who is worth waiting for.

  • February 22, 2021 at 9:16 am
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    @miroslav. I’ll answer your question about Carlsson. He will be a top 4 D man in this league whether on the Hawks or not is yet to be seen. Have you seen his stats? Probably not because he was a 4th round draft pick and played in Sweden.

    I go to all prospects camps and scrimmages and this kid in his first Got my attention real quick. During that camp all eyes were on D-Cat and rightfully so as he was the high pick with high expectations. D-cat was not impressive at all but that had to do with him just being fatigued as he played a lot of games in tournaments before coming to camp.

    After camp Carlsson went back to the SEL and went unnoticed except by me. Guess who else played in that league that year and then selected #1 overall? Dahlin. Remember all the praise for this young D man? Go look at the stats for Carlsson vs. Dahlin that year. I could switch them and you wouldn’t know who’s were who’s.

    Next camp he came back better. Then went to Rockford and impressed his first year on NA ice. So much so they named him defensive player of the year for the Hogs.

    3rd camp got even better. Then back to Rockford and was on the top defensive pairing also playing on the #1 PP and PK. Again named defensive player of the year and lead all Dmen in minutes and points.

    Being able to watch this kid live especially at camps where you can focus on a players game while not having to focus on a game is the best way to see a player and their assets and faults. Carlssons best asset is his awareness of the play and the ice. You won’t see this on TV but his head is on a swivel. His awareness of a play and how to get into position to defend is second to none.

    Now he is a LHD playing on the right side to start his rookie season. That’s hard for a veteran D man to play much less a rookie just getting his feet wet in the NHL. Now go look at his stats after the 10 games he’s played this year. Goose eggs across the boards. No goals no assists zero in the +/- and no pims. Seems unimpressive but now take into account he’s not playing his natural position but on the opposite side and to see that ZERO for his +/- and no penalty minutes? How could you not be impressed by a rookie playing defense against some very tough teams on his opposite side and having those numbers?

    This kid is a hidden gem and think of the confidence JC has in him to being his career on his opposite side. He’s not there to dazzle anyone with his offense he’s there to play defense and he has done just that. Everyone can point out his non offensive contributions that everyone is all agog about now try to point out his defensive lapses that have led to turnovers or goals. Wait till you get to see him play in his natural position.

  • February 22, 2021 at 9:22 am
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    WIJG for no. 3, developing these other young fwds and the fact it’s being reported they are showing interest in bringing more in the organization, should provide enough incentive for them. If that and availability of coaches to work with them to bring out their best doesn’t do it, then it’s time to move on. Possibility Strome is fighting some nagging injury too that has slowed him down from his better start to the year, but nothing has been said to that being the case.

  • February 22, 2021 at 9:33 am
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    Who is John Galt,Enjoyed your post.The problem that I see is that Colliton is coaching to win at all costs and make the playoffs which is pushing against this youth development.I.E playing Kane and Keith over 26 minutes a game and limiting Strome and Boqvist,s ice time and not playing them a regular shift.I contend that if the Hawks are developing play these 2 over 26 minutes a night and stop protecting them.

  • February 22, 2021 at 11:18 am
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    Tim W. Thanks!

    I too fear a ‘house league coach of the year’ campaign whereby the coach overplays his top guns to rack up wins at the expense of developing others. Ironically, with all the injuries the players that might have been neglected are getting ice time.

    When I asked what other opportunities need to be provided, I hoped to get suggestions other than time on ice. Time on ice does not equate to development as ER suggests. It is an opportunity to show what they can do, which so far has not been impressive. So what needs to change?

    For example, the Blackhawks sent Brian Campbell to London, Ontario to work one-on-one with Boqvist while he was still in the Juniors. Great idea!

    Does Nylander need to be put on a checking line, maybe in Rockford, until he has developed his ability to be better in the corners, fighting for pucks, blocking shots, etc…? He had ample opportunity last year on the offensive side playing on the top 2 lines a lot.

    I ask because I, for one, don’t know.

  • February 22, 2021 at 11:25 am
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    TimW – do you honestly believe Colliton is prioritizing winning (at all costs and making the playoffs) over young player development? Really? Could it be you’re focusing on a couple trees and not seeing the forest? There’s a big picture being played out in front of us and while it isn’t a linear progression at the individual player level nor at the team level – it is still progressing toward the objective of infusing youth into what will be the future core group.

  • February 22, 2021 at 11:34 am
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    So now the “concern” is that Kane and Keith are getting too many minutes. The desire to micromanage every decision (often looking for the worst possible angle) never ceases to amaze me. If you don’t think playing competitive games and trying to win is good for development then I don’t know what to say. Playing Reese Johnson more and Patrick Kane less in competitive games is called tanking, not development. Boquist and Strome can’t handle big minutes yet but that doesn’t automatically mean they are failures. If the team wanted to win at all costs we would have brought in a few more Soderbergs, signed Crow and kept Koekkok for starters.

    Count me as a hard pass on any interest in Jack Eichel. Adding another $10m long term deal and giving up significant young talent and picks would be a disaster.

  • February 22, 2021 at 11:40 am
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    Some folks now complaining about Kane & Keith’s minutes?
    Just silly season right now.

  • February 22, 2021 at 12:02 pm
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    I am not complaining about the ice time for Kane and Keith,as a Hawks fan I would rather see Kane and Keith over 27 and 17,I just don’t see how you are developing them by giving them 12 protected minutes a night and never the last couple minutes of a game. I would be curious to know if any other forward is playing 26 minutes a night.In the interest of development why not roll 4 lines and let d men take their regular shift.We have already established that Colliton is not a line matcher.Let the question marks play.

  • February 22, 2021 at 12:21 pm
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    The other Nylander in the doghouse in T.O. coach thinks he has great skill but needs to apply himself more often-in the DNA?

  • February 22, 2021 at 12:32 pm
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    Nameless if he is to play a top 4 shutdown role on a contender Carlsson like his fellow countryman Hjalmarsson needs to become a big time shot blocker to go with his solid puck moving positional play, because he lacks the size and strength to be a big physical force.

  • February 22, 2021 at 12:46 pm
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    @ER ..JC is prioritizing his system and always has been. This year he just has a lot more rookies added to the mix. It’s a hot mess and probably will be for awhile. Giving Keith and Kane all those minutes is the result of the team always being in the game. If after being down 2 or more goals in the 3rd you would probably see them with less minutes but they are in it till the end with a good chance of getting points.

    There is a lot to watch for with JC’s system as he loves to get the D involved on offense thus all the offensive defensemen involved. To allow that the forwards need to take their position at the point and we really don’t have that many that can do that well at least this point in time but it’s a learning process.

    We see Kane playing better defensively and that tells me he is buying into this system because when Boqvist or Mitchell move up it usually Kane that needs to cover for them. It’s what the forwards are gonna need to learn for the D to get involved with the offense. And while most teams do it later in a game if they are down and need some goals JC does it at the drop of the puck to start the first. They need forwards to play a better than average 200 ft game.

  • February 22, 2021 at 1:23 pm
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    A few comments…

    I think Colliton is trying to walk a fine line by trying to develop his younger players while trying to win. I see that he gave Beaudin more responsibilities and the kid did well and then had a couple of hiccups. The same is true with Boqvist, Carlsson, Kurashev, Hagel, and Suter. But, he just can’t give them the keys to the Lambo while he still has Kevin Harwick and Lewis Hamilton on the team. I, personally think he is doing a decent job with development while winning. In fact, I am not calling for JC or StanBo to get fired any longer. They both did not deserve to be here after last season, but in my opinion, they both deserve kudo’s for the great job that they have done.

    I do not want Jack Eichel! He is the defacto leader/superstar in Buffalo and is not getting the job done there at $10M/year. Imagine laying an egg in Chicago at $10M? Plus, the return would have to include Dach, and I am not trading that kid.

    In terms of Strome, I think that Rangers have a need and he’s a perfect fit. Zibanejad is a UFA and his play this year has been dismal. If we can trade Strome for half a season of Zibanejad and a young player (Filip Chytil). I would do that in a heartbeat. We have Shaw on LTIR and can use his salary spot on Zibanejad, while Chytil can develop into a solid 2nd or 3rd line center. The Rangers get out of paying Zibanejad his crazy salary this year, and get something back instead of losing Z for nothing. Plus, Strome can play with his brother and they can figure out how to use him best.

  • February 22, 2021 at 2:14 pm
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    @ian. He actually is a good shot blocker but again playing on the opposite side. I’m good with him being cautious and just making the smart safe plays. And at 6 ft. 190+ lbs he’s not a small fry. Also last time he blocked a shot it went off his knee and missed a game and a half. That may still be in the back of his mind ?

  • February 22, 2021 at 3:21 pm
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    Yea I would say only adding another Hoss ufa wise is the way to add that elite player we need for when were ready.

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