Blackhawks Re-Sign Vinnie Hinostroza
After announcing a two-year deal with John Hayden, the Hawks announced another young forward got a contract on Friday as well.
Vinnie Hinsotroza also received a two-year extension on Friday.
Hinostroza, 24, scored seven goals and was credited with 18 assists in 50 games with the Blackhawks last season. He was originally a 6th round selection (#169) by Chicago in the 2012 NHL Draft.
Good news glad to see it done. Blackhawks can be under 66.5m as of now without Hossa’s contract and 1g and 2 skater spots to fill. Still have AA as moveable also, so could possibly if he wants to use it all over 18m for a goalie and 3 skaters.
Good solid contract. Looking forward to see how he develops further.
I like Vinnie a lot and happy with the signing. Vinnie’s skating and engine give him an edge to be a plus player. Hopefully he takes a step forward on being able to finish which was the main thing holding him back last season.
ahhh avoiding the Seattle draft….nice idea
Sorry Recliner GM but Hino and Hayden will both be rfa s after their contracts expire and will be eligible for expansion draft and need protection or be exposed.
On current roster concerning forwards on expansion draft Toews and Kane have to be protected or wave nmc. Schmaltz and Debrincat will likely be resigned and protected. Leaving 3 spots for Saad, Hino, Hayden and Ejdsell and Kampf if resigned. Sikura unsure but last year may not count toward draft so he may be exempt.
I believe Kyle Baun played 3 games in 2014 and that made him eligible for draft last year, so my feeling is Hillman and Sikura will be draft eligible Seattle.
Vinnie is a fine bottom 6 player, but he isnt a grest FO guy, and is limited based on his size. Has it even been determined the process for the Seattle expansion draft? SB need to do everything in his power to unload Seabroke in that draft!
Bettman indicated same rules will apply to Seattle as they were for VGK.
@ Ian,
Has Seattle forked over the franchise Fer yet? In my opinion the Hawks have a lot they need to worry about this offseason on before they need to worry about an upcoming expansion draft. Also these team doesn’t have the talent in the pipeline where I am worried about who they lose.
More importantly Powers is reporting that Stan pretty much gave Nalimov and his agent the middle finger back in 2016 and closed the book on him then. If that’s the case what an obtuse why to manage minor league players, and honestly Nalimov has every right to tell the organization trade me.
I don’t subscribe to the Athletic but that makes sense if he was ready to come over now and Bowman was looking to Darling rather than him, he would get pissed and want a trade. In 2016 he was nowhere near NHL ready and apparently ?idn’t want to go to AHL so Bowman had no options with him.
Lots of people have commented on expansion draft and asking about it, so if you don’t like posts about it , tough skip them.
@ Ian,
I don’t have a problem with posts about the expansion draft at all, I just feel like the Hawks priority should be on this offseason 1st. Let’s be honest if Stan and Co doesn’t have a good offseason no doubt Rocky pulls the pull on Stan and/or Q early in the season.
As for Nalimov, I don’t subscribe to the Athletic either, I can’t subscribe to that business model. However, Powers is really pulled in and provides a ton of insight that others recirculate. It just was surprising when Nalimov requested a move but after digging in more I can see why the request was made. That’s all I was trying to get across.
How do you shore up the roster when we mandatory need certain spots filled. 81/4
Have 18.5m to sign 3 players. (trade Hoss caphit)
10m player
7m player
1.5m back up goalie
JVR caphit will be what.
Jvr probably in 6m 6.5m per range from what i read. Likely looking for a longer term. He will score 30 goals or so and go to front of net. His defense is lacking though.
Happy Father’s day to everyone on the committedindians! Random thoughts from me on guys in the market to be moved.
JVR-No
MIke Hoffman-No but to bad his girl is nuts
Ian Cole-Yes
Calvin de Haan-ok
JT91-yes please
Faulk-yes please
Philipp Grubauer-yes
Scott Darling-No this hasn’t worked stopped doing it!
Carter Hutton-sure why not
Tough to know if it’s better to risk giving up too much in a trade or risk overpaying a ufa on a longer term deal.
Taveres looking like he may resign, probably due to Lamariello’s arrival there. Carlson, DeHaan, JVR, Neal etc. all likely looking for longer term deals that if don’t work out will look over paid, haunt for years. If Darling got rid of Hossa’s caphit and half his salary retained, it becomes fairly risk free as for 2m he should be an easy move or minimal damage buyout as worst case.
The hot ones are nuts, and their haaaaot.
Wouldn’t trading Seabs caphit be more of a free expansion draft buyout then Darls.
It sucks that Seabs and Hoss etc prob wont be on the 4th Cup.
as long as we are bringing players back Shaw appears to be in a ton of rumors; if the Canadians can eat some or most of his cap hit might not be a terrible idea
Shawzer and Danault.
Sounds good. Were do I sign.
For those of you interested, Scott Powers has a nice Father’s Day article on the Hinostroza family … not a critique of his play, just a “human interest” piece.
Happy Fathers Day to all!
Anyone got the cliffs notes from the Custance article on acquiring a top player ufa/trade.
Bringing back Shaw would be another dumb move by the Hawks.
To much money and to injury prone. ( back…head )
While we all love Andrew’s heart, he is just unable to play that style without
getting injured. Continually running into guys that are much bigger has
definitely taken its toll.
Caphit wise, only for 50% etc retained.
Let’s bring up Hjarlmasson next 1 year left correct? Might be a great deadline acquisition, depending on where we fall in the standings. I honestly believe he deserved Norris Trophy consideration with streaks of his play throughout those years of magnificence.
I would am not at all sure Faulk would be a good pick up. I know there are a lot of things that play into +/- like level of competition, zone starts, etc, but he is a +/- TRAIN WRECK. He was the worst D man on his team last year. Ironically the BEST was TVR. Ugh.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=120974
Even if this was amassed while playing against the other teams’ best, he has been under water EVERY year in the NHL and that shows that he cannot excel against whatever he has been matched against. I don’t think we need that.
Regarding the Athletic, I loved reading Powers. Subscribed for a year or so, but cancelled because of the mess of articles that were just politically correct editorials masquerading as journalism. (Looking at you, Custance.) And their UI was terrible at letting you filter out that crap so I decided to save the $ and reduce frustration.
Espoforever i am not advocating giving up Saad and 27th pick for Faulk but +- us not a good gauge. His corsi numbers were very good over 55. Also his giveaway vs takeaway numbers for a top pair defenceman were very good, more takeaways than giveaways for his career and a rare -2 last year . His 8G and 14A with a 3.1 shooting %were an off year for him as compared to Hanifan with over 63% ozone starts barely got over 50 corsi and had his best year offensively with 10G and 23A and a comparable -20 in less favourable play. His giveaways have been higher than his takeaways every year also. Also Faulks hits and blocks numbers were better last year and have veen pretty decent for his career.
reminder: watching players is better than relying on empty numbers.
And plus/minus is a garbage stat 98.7% of the time.
If you’re going to write off a player you have (obviously) never watched based on his +/- then just keep it to yourself. Really.
re: Seattle expansion draft – Vegas is exempt. Same rules in play for the rest of the league.
Justin Faulk is far from perfect but let’s put some things in context. He just turned 26, and is the Canes Captain and already has 5 seasons under his belt. He has played on some pretty poor teams over those 5 seasons, so his numbers dont do him justice. He is a right shot dman so he is an immediate upgrade on the Hawks horrible powerplay. He is probably better then any blueliner on the Hawks today (sorry Dunks). If he was any other team besides Carolina he likely would not be available.
@ Tab, why is +/- a garbage stat?
It’s a team stat, even though individual and line mates pair. What would be good if if they had a plus minus that didn’t include garbage goals, games where scores were run up or a winning blowouts etc. like having a plus minus stat for close games only etc kind of thing.
It’s like saying the PK is/was horrible for the whole yr, when it wasn’t. It was actually really good other then the first 15-25 games, whatever it was that yr. overall the stat was not good but it was only not good in those 20 games.
And not counting or dismissing hot streaks, just that that can throw off a stat and make it misleading at times….
I couldn’t disagree more. Yes, it is absolutely a team stat but honestly its the simplest way to determine if a player is “winning” on the ice against the other team. Sure sometimes a good player will take a hit based on team and zone starts, and coaching decisions for plus/minus but overall I think its a good stat. Good players are on the ice for more goals than against. Although there are exceptions to the rule like Erik Karlsson.
The Hawks PP was absolute garbage all season
Think about if you are out there on Kanes line most of the time you get alot more +s than if you spend most of the time with 4th line. Too much of it is out of players control too. Like giveaways and bad line changes. Its all about analytics today, on what individuals are able to control.
What I was saying is just a part of it, not everything….
AJ, knows the ones. What are they again.
As soon as AJ pointed out the silly bounces Vegas was getting by stats thing, they stopped and that was the end of that.
Good read from former Hawks champ Nick Boyton!
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/nick-boynton-everythings-not-ok
That’s why I think there should be 20, 40, 80 and 2yr suspensions.
Have 20game be max for no salary, becaseu they use players salary etc is too much. Then take it out.
The Torres hit would be the 2yr suspension type.
Get rid of instigator. That way that’s another thing that will limit those headshots.
Theres lots of ways to make it right and it starts up to 2yr suspensions.
The incidental contact to head should be 1-2 games, you hit high you take chance you sit for 2 games on incidental stuff. Make it so strict, its a gamble to hit high at all.
Their not just inconstant. The league is a disgrace by not having 20/40/80/2yrs for headshots.
Trotz quits over .300 difference in contract.
Good link, a willingness to find the right solutions is needed. More deserving suspensions a good start.
Wonder what Trotz leaving will mean to Kempny’s future.
Trotz had a 2-year option that paid $1.8M per that he declined. If he hits the market he’ll make north of $3M – hell, Washington could still bring him back but it’ll cost them a lot more than $1.8M per. No brainer for Trotz. The surprise was that he had the option.
Vinne’s and Hayden’s contracts are extensions (no raises), just like Kero’s was last year. That means one of four things, 1.) Produce! 2.) Asset for trade, 3.) Exposed to expansion draft. , or 4.) Goodbye in two years.
Hino over doubled his salary and has been mentioned by Bowman as one of the future players.
Be quite the drama if Trotz signs a big deal with Caps, be an odd road to do it.