Blackhawks Recall Gustav Forsling
During Sunday’s All-Star Game(s), the Chicago Blackhawks recalled defenseman Gustav Forsling from Rockford.
In 32 games with the Blackhawks this season, Forsling has one goal and three assists. He had one goal and four assists in 11 games with the IceHogs since being sent down on Jan. 6.
Chicago also placed Michal Rozsival on IR, retroactive to Jan. 25. The veteran has one assist in only 14 games this season.
Ernie, why are we not banking cap space by having a FW to Rockford. Theres no reason to have 23 when we can do 22 and bank space for player bonuses.
Cuz Q loves his gritty useless forward. I’m of the same mindset as you though
They want 7 D…I get it.
They want a 13th forward. I get it.
Rasmussen and Tootoo were the ones out the other day. Are they the 13th and 14th least helpful? No and yes. Tootoo is the one that needs to go. But they don’t want to upset the locker room either. A few players wanted Stan to sign him. Might be a tough sell to the guys that like him. Tootoo has 296k remaining. If the roster remains unchanged and you assume Tootoo is waived they would have almost 2.2 million in space at the end of the year.
Also, this time of year you have to wonder if they’re considering moving Forsling. The rumor the other day (from a reporter in KC from Carmel,Indiana) was that the Hawks were considering Duchene. For arguments sake, let’s say salary is no issue. Who do the Hawks have that would be enticing. Let’s also assume picks are off the table. I would have to think Colorado would want 2 or 3 prospects for a player like Duchene if no picks are involved. So you have a pool of Pokka, Schmaltz, Motte, Forsling. Coincidentally 2 of those 4 are currently up.
Now, would Colorado do a Duchene for Forsling, Kruger, and Motte? Motte’s old linemate JT Compher is in the Colorado system. According to some, teams value Kruger’s leadership. Also something Colorado lacks.
Ernie you can’t just pretend salary is no issue. That is dumb. It is a huge issue. The real problem with trading for Duchene is salary would definitely need to be retained by the Avs. Over two or three years. Which means Colorado would want a giant ass pile of picks and prospects. I think Schmaltz, Motte, Forsling, DeBrincat, two first rounders and two second rounders would do it. You still interested?
Oh, and Duchene for Kruger, Forsling, and Motte? No. Freaking. Way. You are about two better prospects and two top picks short.
again, for Ernie and others, the Blackhawks would need to move at least $4-5M of 2017-18 salary in any deal to get Duchene to work. I don’t see the Hawks do that without compromising their compliance for the expansion draft.
My point was even if salary wasn’t an issue, I don’t think the Hawks would want to part with a relatively thin prospect pool and in most cases they don’t have the prospects a team would want. Colorado wants a young proven Daman and a 1st at minimum. Don’t have either.
I personally don’t think a move is made unless it’s a rental. Vrbata?
I’m not thrilled with the trade for Duchene idea nor do I think the “rumor” it has any actual validity. But for the sake of conversation… What if we acquire Duchene and have Colorado eat some cap space this year, or find a way for him to fit in this years cap, and then leave him unprotected for the expansion draft? Would that work? if not why?
Most star power through out the league is going to be protected. Vegas is going to get a bunch of role players and/or young players with potential. If I were Vegas and Duchene was available he’d be a sure fire pick. This has to be something that Bowman is thinking about?
Note for future reference: if you want to make a point about a potential trade and are willingly ignoring the salary cap, don’t make the point. It’s worthless.
Every indication has been that the Blackhawks are looking to do something with a player under control beyond the 2016-17 season, with the expansion draft undoubtedly playing a role.
Does adding Duchesne while shedding $4-5mm win the Hawks a cup??
Ernie, didn’t mean to get into trouble.
Whatever we do for adding a good FW at deadline, we need to fricking bank space until then. No reason to have 23, 22 or 21 will work. Unless Bowman already got what he needed when we rolled with 21 for those wks.
All good. I really don’t think they should make a move, unless it’s for expiring. Said that a few times. I don’t like the idea of spending assets to become expansion compliant. Not when you can resign who you have in Panik and Rasmussen. Leave Kruger and those 2 unprotected and move on.
I want to add a good FW without trading a good prospect (I donot give a shit about picks, other then 1st, because we can get those back). Use the 25/50% retained so we can use as much as possible for player bonuses.
Ernie wouldn’t mind the expiring deal if it was someone tbat could be resigned with say a 35yrs. of age+ deal but to get a rental and then sign elsewhere and lose somebody in expansion draft and still have the possibility of needing to move someone for cap room is alot to absorb. Definitely agree need to what can be done to get somebody to help at trade deadline though.
Is maxim shalunov someone that could be acquired for the end of the season? or does that have to wait until next season?
With Forsling being called up ,.,.,will not be seeing Kempny for a while ,.,.back to the dog house for him .
Shalunov is under contract till end of may so with only an agreement to honor contracts between leagues it would seem he us unavailable till then.
What’s the difference between getting a rental with an expiring deal and getting a player with term you’d lose to expansion?
I think the latter would cost more.
If you vet a rental your losing him to free agency and a prospect in expansion pous may still need cap room and need more movement. Somebody under contract for year allows you to protect him or expose him and protect a hartman say and you only lose one of them instead of both. Resigning a rfa may not be so easy if they know you need tbem under contract for the draft, your bargaining position could be weaker.
Read Shalunov could be available after beginning/mid APR, is that right or would he still have to wait until contract is 365day/yr. Once season is he can or still have to wait until that date you mentioned.
Khl playoffs end in april contracts expire end april 30th. Agreement says says nhl teams won’t negotiate with players while still under contract. His team could actually be done in february if they miss playoffs, also if brought over this year his elc would be used up and have to be resigned for next year
Don’t plan on Shalunov for the 2016-17 season or postseason. And don’t assume he’s coming, either. Not a lock.
Just looked his team sibir is 5 points out of a playoff spot with 6 games remaining.
Agree tab if his demands include guaranteed playing time as reported don’t see it happening.
70 was sick, now 16/15 might be. That would explain keeping that many FW on for now.
Rozy 2/3 wks.
I would sit Van Riemsdyk, let him watch a few games.
Most of us on this blog though at the start of the season we had upgraded our Defense ,really looking at things now i see some glaring deficiency . T.V.R logs more ice time than he can handle ,has a couple brain farts a game , Kempny make gaffs similar to my local Jr. B team on any given night , Both Soupy and Seabs ,look slow and tired . Both T.V.R. and Soupy get out muscled in front, and around our net nightly . Adding to this is the lack of Farm team potential , Don,t just think we need a forward to fill out the team ,should be sniffing out a solid 25 year old ,cheap D man .
Who fits that description ?
I agree a solid dman might be more beneficial but 51 is noted for disappearing this time of year and being up to the task in the playoffs and hopefully seabrooks can get a little more consistency to his game too. A 3rd pair that can play 15 minutes a night in playoffs would still an improvement from what we had.