Blackhawks recall Trevor van Riemsdyk
On Friday morning, the Blackhawks announced they have recalled defenseman Trevor van Riemsdyk from Rockford.
After a strong start to the season in Chicago, van Riemsdyk left the NHL lineup because of injury. While rehabbing with the IceHogs, he dealt with more injuries that cut his season short(er). His last injury required surgery on his right wrist, which was performed on April 3. This recall is ahead of the eight week timetable expected at the time of that procedure.
He finished the 2014-15 regular season(s) with one assist in 18 games with the Blackhawks and three assists in eight games with Rockford.
Thinking this is a paper recall for the most part – don’t think he’s been medically cleared to play yet. He was doing his rehab with the Ice Hogs but sine they’re done …
Agree with Hof. Would the Hawks use a guy who has only a dozen or so NHL games and has not played at game speed for 7 weeks??
well- most likely- Q will see how he looks in practices… Q loves him… has from day 1
and if/when cleared… could decide to skate him… the kid has great instincts… and most likely has been skating the entire time (wrist injury)… so who knows
He is still an improvement over Timmo at this stage.
TVR says he hasn’t been on the ice since March 28th, today was the first time. Quenneville won’t rule him out playing but not tomorrow. Says he wants to see how TVR does in practice.
Said Kruger would “be better tomorrow” but in true playoff charade speak, said “there’s no injury”. Translated, Kruger was or is injured.
Also said TT and Vermette could play tomorrow, hopefully they will.
Wall, if a guy has a broken wrist, they usually don’t take the ice for practice. There’s that concern with falling, ya know. That ice is slippery …
I had heard TvR has been cleared medically. If he looks good in practice I could see him replacing Kimmo.
Paper moce only as noted above. Hasn’t skated really for 7 weeks. He won’t skate in these playoffs.
My psychic abilities coming through…
or what did one poster call me before “a know-it-all”… hmmm…
Yay. If TVR can skate at even a bantam level and has the use of one arm he’ll be a step up from 44.
A comment today from the excellent Lowetide Edm Oilers blog below. No it wasn’t me. He’s incorrect on the compensation both players garnered in that Petry went for a second and 5th which is now a 4th, while 44 cost a second and 4th which is now a 3rd.
“”Sometimes the GMs of the NHL baffle me.
Kimmo Timonen, aged 40 and with zero games played this year nets Philly a 2nd rounder from Chicago and has gone on to be nothing more than a placeholder trying to survive <7 minutes per night until the Big 4 can get back out there.
Yet they could have chosen Jeff Petry, age 27 who played as roughly a #2 defenseman in the playoffs for the Habs. He went for a 3rd.
Keith, Hjarmlasson, Seabrook and Oduya look like they might die out there. This decision might cost the team a Stanley Cup.
How does this happen?
AlbertaHawksFan,
Let me guess, you did not like the Timonen trade or the Vermette trade. We get it. You only post about it EVERY DAY. You made your point. Maybe write Stan Bowman a letter about it if it’ll help you get it off your chest.
Still questioning whether Petry’s salary (for this year) could’ve fit given they went after Vermette and with the Desjardins move factored in. Timonen made I think $2M this year and Petry was $1M higher.
Just spitballing here, but maybe they only had x $$ to spend on a d-man because of their other acquisitions. They all came down pretty much within a day or so of one another so keeping the money under the cap (even with Kane out) was surely a factor to consider.
While I don’t know specifically how the cap situation worked in this case, I do know most if not all NHL trades these days are money driven. Meaning, it’s the first considertion and quite often the driving factor.
The funny thing is I didn’t hear one person from CSC or NBCSports raise those questions that all of us raised when we learned of this trade (Kimmo). Konroyd, Mayers, Jones, etc. said it was a good move. Maybe I missed it. But he might get a Father of the Year plaque from Tuevo. :) Seriously, I feel bad for the guy going through what he went through with the leg clots, wanting to win a Cup before retirement, trying his best. He just doesn’t have what he used to physically. He still plays smart though. Enough of that. Gotta get through the Ducks. Will Andersen be able to keep up this streak of good goaltending or will he fall a la Dubnyk. Hopefully the boys but more pressure on him with shots and bodies all around him and make him prove himself.
Coming back from a fractured patella in the same season is an incredible accomplishment, what a bummer about the second injury. The kneecap must have been fairly superficial but even still, there’s not much that hurts worse than a direct patella injury/surgery. What would be the reasoning behind a “paper move” in this case? I don’t think Bob Murray is losing sleep over an oft-injured rookie being placed on the opponent’s roster. Why call him up if he’s not going to play? Just for practice with the black aces? You’d think they’d shut the kid down and let him heal if he weren’t ready to play, but who knows.
$-wise the Hawks could have traded for Sekera and Vermette. Sekera’s salary is lower than Timonen’s. 1.75 mil. However LA gave up it’s 1st round pick and then some while the Hawks gave up their 1st rounder for Vermette. Either way there’s a lot of complaining about the moves and draft choices. The Vermette deal has paid off, I think, because it brought in a good two way center and face off man and allowed other players to play their natural positions. Let’s win the Cup so we’ll all be happy …. until draft day and we’ll hear the complaints all over again :)
Hof
Not entirely true on the Vermette trade. I knew what they were getting for a player but I questioned what they gave up to get him. We all knew he wasn’t going to be around for the next season. Now the question is whether the Hawks would be in this exact same position without the 44, 11, and 80 acquisitions. For my money I don’t think they’d be a lot worse off, and when you see guys being scratched from lineups altogether or playing 6 – 8 minutes a night then I’m sorry but they aren’t big factors.
My whole issue with the trade deadline deals is that I don’t think a lot of ppl are really considering how much the faces on this team are going to change for next season, and giving up those draft picks could come back to haunt. The Hawks aren’t exactly bursting at the seams with 1A prospect depth so now it falls on Bowman to maximize picks coming back in Sharp, Bickell, Seabrook, Crawford, or whatever trades are coming.
There’s every chance there’ll be a serious lull before we see the next Hawks team go this deep in a playoff series and relinquishing those picks only makes it longer. Forget even thinking about what those picks would garner in prospects. It’s what they could return in players as well.
We all watched this team get gutted after 2010. Then again after the 2013 cup. It just pisses me off that it has to keep being that way. That’s all on the GM.
Let’s move on from the trade deadline moves. As previously stated most Hawk fans were pleased to see some moves that demonstrated Hawk management (read SB) was going all in for a good run in 2015. When you have a chance you go for it. Draft choices may or may not pan out and even those that do often take years. Sometimes a 4th rounder turns out better than a late first round pick. Those moves also sent an important message to the current players – we are going for the Cup – do your part. Could the Hawks have got Petry – none of us know. Maybe Edmonton preferred to move him to the east. We only see Timmo on the ice. Some of his team mates were very positive on his leadership in the dressing room when he was acquired. Hind sight is always 20/20. Let’s move on and devote our energy to positive thoughts about crushing the Ducks.
Smitty
I hear you. Going to take one seriously epic effort the likes of what we saw vs Detroit in 13.
Never thought I’d say it but the Roszival injury really changed the complexion of things.
You have to pay these guys to keep them. The Hawks have had a lot of good players and with salary cap issues it’s difficult to keep the team together. I don’t see any fault with Bowman there. He rewards the players for their efforts especially after winning the Cup in ’13. If the player development and scouting is there, they’ll be fine. As for now. Just win baby!
Alberta,
If your whole issue with the trade deadline deals is you don’t think people realize how different the team will look next year then you are seriously underestimating the knowledge on this board. Most if not all know the salary cap implications and how that will affect the roster moving forward. We all know, or most of us know, there will be significant changes.
Whenever you trade draft choices for rentals, you run a risk. You mitigate the risk by signing free agents, which Bowman has done and to pinch your phrase, “that’s on the GM”. If you criticize him for trading draft choices then be fair and give it back that he and the staff have been able to sign some high quality free agents a whole bunch of other teams were chasing like Baun and Kero. Those two guys are very likely the equivalent of 2nd round picks and we’re not even discussing Panarin and the Swedish defenseman they signed … nor are we considering what draft choices (if any) they get back before next month’s draft.
If your ongoing beef is really “they gave up too much” which I suspect is the real bone in your throat, then like Tab said, that’s the price they paid and so be it. I hate giving up 1st round picks but when you have a decent chance to go for it, you do it. Anaheim traded their 1st round pick too and their acquisition is being scratched every game.
It is a cost of doing business and here’s the thing, a 1st and 2nd round pick usually won’t sniff the NHL for 2-3 years at least anyway, especially picking at the bottom of the rounds.
I think they overpaid for Timonen but you didn’t answer the question about having enough cap space to get Petry along with the other two guys. So I think the cap had every thing to do with “who” they could get … it is not as easy as what you said … “this guy went for the same draft choice price so Bowman screwed up”/ You continually referring to him as a clown doesn’t lend much credibility to your argument either.
Either way, your point has been made several times. I’ve tried to present what other factors were at play and also what they’ve been doing thus far to mitigate the effect of trading draft choices.
As for a long upcoming drought, maybe so, but lets not forget they had a big purge in 2010 and then won the Cup again in 2013. They model themselves after the Red Wings who have had good teams for years, year after year. The Blackhawks cupboard is not bare, they’ve got some good prospects, I see several in Rockford and there are more playing overseas.
I’ll weigh in as follows:
1. The Vermette trade was a good one as it strengthens the Hawks for the very reason we face today, the western conference power teams (Kings and Ducks), are strong up the middle and the Hawks are not. Adding the best C available was a good move for this reason alone. Simply put, it placed us in the best position to win a Cup with this current roster. As a GM, this is a GOOD move. Period.
2. The fact that Q does not dress Vermette- who is NOT dinged up and pissed he was scratched after posting one of the Hawks BEST Corsi-for scores in the 3OT win, is not on the GM. It’s ALL ON Q. Continues to PISS ME OFF.
3. Desi was a great add as he’s made the 4th line one of our best combos throughout the playoffs. Again, “resting him” is on Q, and is a good get by Stand Jr.
4. HOF is right, the numbers did not work with Petry. Regardless, Timmo is not working out. As Meatloaf says, 2 out of 3 ain’t bad.
Oops, Desi was not scratched, but the 4th line was F’d-Up due to the 23/TT switch. Same difference, good trade for 11, bad move by Q.
………very frustrating to watch the Blackhawks now….injuries, the poor use of options and the constant juggling of lines….Quenville is relying on his hunches now and it will be difficult to pull a rabbit out of his hat this time…..it will be up to Toews and Kane to defeat the Mighty Ducks…..
While I agree Q made a (significant) mistake scratching 86 and 80, I was disappointed to hear Vernette “make news” by commenting on the situation.
Yes, Teuvo and Vermette should have played. BUT We’re 7 wins away from another Cup for heavens sake, and ALL that matters in public player statements right now should be fostering a healthy/determined/relentless attitude in the locker room.
After all Vermette is a veteran and should know the difference between “not saying the wrong thing” vs “saying the right thing”- which is exactly what Corey Crawford did when he was yanked against the Preds.
Right message = “Like any player I want to play every game BUT my first priority BY FAR is to help our team win the Cup, aka work my tail off to be ready for my next chance while being a great/supportive teammate and fostering a great attitude amongst the boys in the locker room in the meantime.” Not quite what I heard from Antoine Vernette.
Be all that as it may, however, I’ll strangle Q if 86 and 80 aren’t on the ice at the UC Saturday night.
LETS GO HAWKS!!!!
Alberta- in regards to those lost draft picks, I specifically remember a certain GM being asked about the picks after the Vermette deal. He had said something to the effect of being confident he could get picks back at the draft.
Now, as far as a 2013 cap purge, I don’t recall anything like that ever occurring. Bolland and Frolik? 3rd and 4th line players. Replaceable players.
For the upcoming purge…I see two players that have underperformed this year being the prime targets for getting the boot. Sharp and Bickell. Teams go crazy for a guy like Bickell and always think they can get more out of him. Teams will overlook Sharps down year because of injury, and how he’s played in the playoffs. The Hawks by all accounts have players in the system that can replace those guys for less dough. I would much rather have players like Toews,Kane,Saad, Seabrook,Hossa and deal with cap implications later. I really don’t care what players are on my team, as long as its a good team. Being in the final four, I’d say they’re pretty good.
When they pan down the bench during the anthem and I see Versteeg standing there I’m throwing my tv out the window. This team wins inspite of that mustacheod idiot behind the bench. Well he’s won 2 cups. Bullshit he should have won 3 or 4. His unwillingness to play younger players will cost this team for years to come. It would be nice to have Leddy back on D now wouldn’t it. What about Hayes and Pirri. The Timonen trade was ridiculous. Being in Philly he was done before the blood clots and we trade a 2nd and a 3rd for him. Wonder how little Stan likes his trade deadline pickups being scratched for no apparant reason.
^My God what on earth caused me to log on and read this lunacy of a post?
Thought the same thing Hof. Wow.
Hof- with modern day technology… it seems like it would be easy to put some plastic cast on and go out and skate… really… seen NFL guys play with arms in casts… in real situations… once again… just to have “skating legs”… after all it is what he does for living…
perhaps- the hawks didn’t imagine a situation- they would “need him” – so they didn’t push for him to skate/keep his legs (other than riding a stationary bike)
The only similiarity at the draft this yr and that yr is 19/88/2 and 19/88/20 contracts starting. Were not going to have the luxury of a 2.7/2.2 caphit on 3rd pair, otherwise similar to when not being able to keep 67/36. When were stacked that’s when we cant keep everyone. Then we reload again and again.
That yr we didn’t have a Farm (like we do now) and wernt signing good young college/European FA. We have several guys that are ready/close and getting these extra guys (FA) are like picks. It takes a couple yrs or moar for these guys to be ready, that’s why theres lots and lots and lots from the 11 draft, etc. that are ready/close now and we keep stocking the reserves. The Calvary is coming. We didn’t have that after that yr.
Other top teams are not going to be able to keep everybody as well. Most of those teams do not have good young players coming.
Wall I’m not an expert on medical technology but the point was borne out – he wasn’t skating since 3/28. His original timetable was June 2nd or thereabouts so surely they would have had him skating if it was medically prudent to do so.
I’m a real rookie when it comes to the business aspect of call ups, etc. Therefore I have a serious question that I know some of you can answer. Why would TVR be called up as a paper move? If he were to be recalled to the active roster, what would be the advantage to the organization overall if he weren’t being considered for playing time? Is this a move that has impact on the salary cap in some way etc. etc.?
GO BLACKHAWKS!
It is possible Vermette is also throwing a smokescreen for possible dings on him and TT
Regards to TvR, as far as it being a “paper” move. He has been recalled. That means he can skate with the team during practice. It means he can be inserted into the lineup whenever they want. However, those that call it that don’t think he would ever be inserted into the lineup. I don’t necessarily agree with that thinking. I believe if the Hawks get to game 6 or 7 or the finals that he would play. See how good to go he actually is.