Blackhawks Send Jeremy Morin To Rockford
On Tuesday, the Blackhawks made an intriguing move: they assigned disgruntled forward Jeremy Morin to Rockford for a conditioning assignment.
Morin, who recently made known his preference to play or be traded, can be sent to Rockford without needing to clear waivers only for a conditioning stint, which can only last up to 14 days.
Which means Morin’s days in Chicago are likely numbered… starting today, at 14.
Here’s the specific language in the CBA that allows the Hawks the ability to send Morin down without waivers:
37 thoughts on “Blackhawks Send Jeremy Morin To Rockford”
here’s to hoping he scores 7-8 goals and has some trade interest!!!
otherwise- Hawks will be giving him away for nothing
Is this really a definite sign that Morin will be traded within 14 days? That would take away any leverage the Blackhawks would have in trade negotiations with other teams. After all, he hasn’t played, so a conditioning stint would make sense. Just speculation, but most likely after Morin’s comments, Bowman & Q sat him down and had a long talk about his situation, and his future with the club (and maybe what he needs to do to get more playing time?) and they agreed that they would send him down to the AHL to at least get him some playing time short term. I just feel like he is a cheap useful player in case of injury, but I guess if Q won’t play him that doesn’t matter. Maybe he is going to get traded in the next two weeks, things have definitely come to a head…I guess, I just wonder if the outcome of their meeting wasn’t necessarily that they will trade him, but instead a resolution to get him some playing time right now, and “reassurance” that he will be used in the future, “if” he does so and so?
By the way, I know it won’t happen, but if they do trade Morin, they should insist it’s a package deal with Bickell (and his salary), that opens the door for Nordstrom, and they have Danault and McNeil about ready as replacements (for Bickells production which shouldn’t be hard & much cheaper). If they are waiting for playoff Bicks again, I have a feeling they will be sorely disappointed this year, it might be better to get rid of him now, and instead have the cap space to make an addition if needed at the deadline, along with addition by subtraction of Nordstrom vs Bickell.
Per Tracey Myers, Morin addressed the situation this morning…
“I’m not thinking about that,” Morin said when asked about trade possibilities. “I’m just trying to work on my game, get back into the lineup and improve every day. We talk a little bit [about getting in the lineup again] but the team’s obviously playing good hockey. It makes sense. Again, I’ll just keep working hard and try to push through it.”
If there is a trade… w/ Mo and 29… I wouldn’t be surprised if Ross is next forward to get some love…
Ross was the 2nd most noticeable guy on ice last Sat. @ Hogs game…
TT could have had 3-4 assists if nice set-ups were finished…
Ross- quick, aggressive, good hands- fits Hawks skating game
scored a hat-trick Sunday
It could be that there is some sort of rotation they might try with Morin, Nordstrom, and Carcillo between press box and Rockford. I don’t know how that plays into cap issues. Any of these three in the lineup is fine with me. They can all play. Nordstrom’s current stint has been very encouraging, and we all know Carcillo has been a most pleasant surprise assuming he stays in the same focus we have seen thus far. Morin can play, and would benefit from more minutes IMO. It’s rough having a wealth of riches in the personnel dept which is what the Hawks have right now, and what most teams would covet.
Lets Go Hawks!
Blackhawks 2014 top playoff scorers:
88- 20 pts
19- 17 pts.
20- 16 pts
7- 15 pts.
81- 14 pts.
2- 11 pts.
10- 10 pts.
29- 10 pts.
His playoff performance was decent but does not warrant carrying him around all year. Hawks Nation- I would love to see the Hawks trade him but what GM is going to pick up $4 mil worth of mediocrity?
could have had KHayes/JHayes… if SB would have dumped 29 at his peak…
I don’t like JHayes overall skating mobility… BUT he would be an asset around the net on PP- nice hands… so play him 6-8 min. + PP
KHayes can play… Plus both would have been cheap assets to control in upcoming crunch vs. Handcuffs
Interesting move by the Hawks to say the least. At the end of the day Morin has not been producing. However, the Hawks haven’t done him any favors by putting him in a situation to be successful. Morin never earned a chance to play on an special teams which makes it hard to get quality minutes and stick on this roster.. The Hawks 3rd line in practice was 10-65-29 all three of these guys play some role on special teams. The only current forward that doesn’t have SOME special teams role is Carcillo.
As I said in the beginning of the yr when Car bomb was signed he essentially closed the door on Morin. Personally I would much rather have Mo then Car bomb but as the kids as it is what it is
On a separate note but similar situation, Hayes scored his 4th goal of the season for the Rangers the other night, and has been getting more playing time.
My biggest concern with Stan has been his lack of leveraging picks or assets for quality players. Hopefully he can get “something” for Mo. With the Hawks roster as stacked as it is there isn’t a lot of available minutes for kids to crack the roster
Bicks isn’t going anywhere. And Bicks will get it going again.
Let me toss a few logs on the fire. Yesterday on NHLN Kevin Weeks made a very random odd comment. He was talking about the Sens and their dismissal of their coach and their current payroll and said,” if the Sens are in the playoff hunt don’t count them out of adding Patrick Sharp, or Johnny Oduya”
My obvious reaction was huh??? Either weeks heard something about the Sens looking at adding 1 or both of these guys or he was just talking out his ass either way it was an interesting comment.
I agree with you South Side. The only troubling part of the Hawks successful development system is once some of these kids develop they are good enough to play in the NHL but not good enough to play for Joel Quenneville and the hawks end up moving them for draft picks in lower rounds than they were drafted. Pirri was a 2nd rounder, Jimmy Hayes was acquired for a 2nd rounder, Kevin Hayes was a 1st rounder, Dylan Olsen was a 1 st rounder. Morin was a high 2nd rounder.
I doubt Morin fetches anything more than a 4th rounder and there is a solid chance he will blossom into a good NHL player elsewhere.
I guess that’s the price of having a Stanley cup level organization
Was trying to figure out why the site was down yesterday. I liked it.
Anyway, the Sabres are making Chris Stewart a scratch tonight. It was reported the Hawks had some interest in him a few weeks ago. Would anyone be opposed to trading Morin and Bickell for Stewart and his expiring contract?
Nice detective work Tab on that conditioning loan. I wonder if the Hawks may get a call from the league on that. Regardless Morin still gets paid the same since he has a 1-way deal, but gets to play and possibly inflate his value. I’m assuming this means the Hawks are going to honor his request. At the very least it has bought them 2 weeks. Prolonging the inevitable I suppose.
Its rough to not have all our high-round draft picks coming through and producing, but remember that their lack of production is due to a bunch of lower-round picks coming in and providing major contributions. Shaw (5), Kruger (5), Smith (6), Hjalmarsson (4) have all contributed to guys like Morin, Hayes, Pirri, etc, etc not getting shots at the squad. Ask the question – would you rather have Shaw, Kruger and Smith line or a Morin, Pirri and Kevin Hayes line?
SSHM- Weeks comment very strange, indeed…
Actually- seems very plausible… Hawks will need to dump $$$ before next season…
Have been winning w/o Sharp in the line-up, and in spite of Oduya being IN the line-up!!!
+ frees up $$$ for significant Rental(s)- for this Cup run!!!
Complete long-shot… but if you really think about it- maybe- especially if Dbeck plays like he did 1st game… Hawks will have TvR and Dbeck -ready + $4M D rental and $4M Forward rental… +/-
Weeks is talking out of his ass as usual, southSideHitMan. Tab commented on a possible sharp trade on his facebook page.
The Hawks are one of the few elite franchises in hockey. Success has been sustained, and in fact built upon. Yet we have a select group of doorknobs and drool monkeys that devote enormous energy on lamenting how Jeremy Friggin Morin has been done a great injustice the past few years. Good Lord. A player that has been SOUNDLY beat out by Danny Carcillo and can’t carry the jock strap of Joakim Nordstrom in any phase of the game. It has never been explained to me how a fringy player like Morin can drive so much passion. Bizarre. The guy is Colin Fraser Lite, and has never been consistent in anything. And his skating ability is marginal.
Let is fu(k!ng go.
I think Morin’s VALUE is self evident, he does not need to score any goals, or hat trick or jump thru any more hoops. I think any “good” hockey executive can see this kid can play, and put him on a line with a little speed and he will get his 20 to 25 goals a year. He is not a great or dedicated defensive player but he has value a lot of value. BLUES would love the kid but Hawks would be FOOLS to trade him to anyone in conference because then he’d prove it to all of those who doubt his skills. I wish him luck and wish the Hawks could find Room for his skill set, he is skilled.
Rufus, I disagree.
Let’s not forget, the learned and astute Mr. Rufus also previously crowned Pekka Rinne the Finnish version of Ken Dryden. Jeremy Morin, on the right team, has a far better chance of scoring twenty goals a year in the NHL than Rinne does leading the Predators to the Finals out of the West. It’s all about opportunity and timing, Cam Neely was no great shakes before Vancouver traded him to Boston. Mats Naslund from Pittsburgh to Vancouver same scenario; Mats Sundin Quebec to Toronto ditto. Of course, Morin will highly likely never reach these three players’ credentials. Virtually all bloggers have agreed/stated that Morin should be traded so he can get a fair shake somewhere fresh, or alternatively, play an important supporting role next year on the Hawks considering his skillset and low salary.
Rufus, then how do you explain what Morin did down the stretch last year? That showed that, when given some ice time and patience, he can produce.
In the 39 NHL games scattered over the 4 years prior to this year he has 16 points.
Ernie–Yes, but 11 of those points were last year when he got some consistent ice time because of top-6 injuries. He was solid. That’s why there was such an outcry when Q played Bollig game after game in the playoffs. It appeared that Morin had proven himself solid enough to contribute. If Q gave him a longer leash and utilized his skills as a scorer, he’d keep producing.
Answer me this: How is Bickell’s icetime/non-healthy-scratch justified? He does so little out there, yet he keeps getting the time. If Q had the same generosity toward Morin, I suspect he’d have far more points right now than Bickell does.
My bet is that Morin has said some dumbass shit behind closed doors and painted himself into a corner. I remember in posts over the past year mentioning such behavior. The hawks have enough good players in the system where they don’t have to deal with his bs. He’s not a talent that’s worth the touble.
Any “insiders” have any info along those lines?
Treat me like I don’t understand all of the politics or biz behind hockey and explain this move to me or the interworkings. When someone gets assigned to Rockford do they always go on waivers? Or is this is a special circumstance ( with Morin)? If they just sent him down would he go on waivers and someone could just pick him up for free? Apologies. I won’t pretend I know something I don’t. Will ask the dumb questions here. Feel free to flame me or troll me if you want.
Wangsauce, I tell it how it is. I do not have anything against Morin. When I was in Lake Placid for juniors. I was there to watch him and after the scrimmages at the pizza joint, his buddy tapped him on the shoulder for him to look over to us (because we had Blackhawks gear on) he looked and didn’t say anything but the attitude was not good vibes. Now this was 4 yrs less mature/ago.
Jason- this is kind of a weird situation with Morin. He hasn’t play in a while because he was a healthy scratch. Typically a player goes on a conditioning stint after an injury. Detroit just did that with Stephen Weiss. With Morin not being injured, it raises some red flags. If they just went the conventional route and sent him to Rockford he would have to pass through waivers. He wouldn’t pass waivers and someone would claim him and be awarded the player and his contract. The Hawks lost Ryan Stanton this way to the Canucks last year.
There’s a couple factors as to why a player would have to pass through waivers. Mainly has to do with age, professional experience, and NHL games played. A player only has to meet one of any criteria to be non exempt from the process. Darcy Kuemper of the Wild met all this criteria to start the year. So he was waiver exempt. However, the games played for a goalie threshold is much lower than skaters. I believe if he played 10 or so games he would have to pass through waivers. Which he has done, so if Minnesota just plain sent him down he would now have to pass.
All the notable players in Rockford are waiver exempt. Now, I may be wrong on this so maybe someone else can clarify. But a player that has been sent down from the NHL team that needs to pass through waivers can be recalled without the waiver process. Those players would be Brennan, Cumiskey, and Regin. Now if you’re not thoroughly confused, a player can be placed on waivers but doesn’t have to be sent down. Its just a precursor to be sent down. The Devils did that with Damian Brunner, but he’s still on the NHL roster.
Griffith, this can be for up to 14 days (might be less with holiday freeze). Does not have to clear waivers and no team can claim him. He hasn’t played in wks and if we wanted we could ltir 50, so the league shouldn’t think its only being done to avoid waivers. It really is the best thing for him right now.
Theres no trolling on this board.
Thank you both ( Ernoee & Morrison) for the replys. I appreciate your answers.
Not throughly confused at all. The only thing left is to understand what exactly the criteria is to have someone have to be placed on waivers if sent down. My guess that process is to prevent someone from being sent up and down over and over again?! It seems like Regin and Morin were sent up and down often over past few years.
I am also assuming that not passing waivers means he would get picked up by one of these 10 plus teams interested in him.
Is he a restricted free agent? I assume if you are locked up in a contract you would be waiver exempt. Thank you greatly again for the info. Watched since I was a kid but never got into all of the moves. thanks!
Contract status, whether he is restricted or not has no bearing on being waiver exempt. Waiver rules are in effect to do 2 things. Give players like Morin,Regin, and others a better path to the NHL. And prevent teams from filling out the AHL roster with older players who are borderline NHL players. The AHL is a developmental league. It just creates more balance if a team has to worry about losing assets for nothing.
Waiver exemptions are in place for developing players. Because of Jeremy Morin’s age and professional experience. Not just NHL experience he is no longer exempt from waivers.
Having a 1-way or 2-way contract means nothing when it comes to waiver status. That simply how much a player will make at the NHL and minor league level.
Players like Peter Regin that have cleared waivers once are exempt from the waiver process until they reach 10 NHL games or 30 days on an NHL roster. After one of those criteria has been met he would need to be put on waivers again if he was to be sent down.
That rule is why Regin has been up and down a few times as he cleared waivers once each year and didn’t meet either criteria before being sent down.
Because Morin was 22 last year, he was still considered developing. Morin signed his first professional contract in his age 19 season. Regardless of any contract signed after, he would lose exempt status after 160 NHL games or in his age 23 season. Capgeek has tons of wonderful information and I’m sure they do a much better job than I in explaining this process.
Morrison- because the nature of Crawford’s injury and when/how/where it occurred couldn’t the Hawks suspend him without pay until he’s healthy? Thought I heard McKenzie say that somewhere.
I am not sure on the caphit/bank cap space rules when doing that though. I am thinking we wouldn’t be cable to bank that space so theres no need. Injured players usually do not talk about their injurys to media and he did so I think that’s a classy way to slap on wrist.
We know how focused Crow was before, just imagine how focused he will be now.
Ernie: great answer. So please do me one favor and back up all the way to the beginning. A young new draft pick gets picked up by the hawks. Is he waiver exempt rught from the get go? And as he ages / plays games in the Nhl and gets experience does he lose waiver exemption? When Regin went to clear waivers it anyone goes through the process of clearing waivers, can someone simply swoop in and take the guy? What if he is under contract?
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Jason, you are correct. For instance, the Bruins drafted David Pastrnak this year. They have himmin Providence playing in the AHL. He can be moved up and down freely because he is exempt. He has signed an entry level contract. Per the CBA most ELC’s pretty much the same. All are 2-way. So he makes roughly 900 in the NHL without bonuses, but roughly only 60 in the AHL. Since he is considered a developing player he is exempt. Now, Kevin Hayes who the Hawks lost to the Rangers was drafted 4years prior. Because of his age he was only able to sign a 2 year deal rather than the standard 3year elc. The 1-way and 2-way nature of contracts has nothing to do with being exempt. As both players get NHL games and get older they would have to be exposed to waivers. Cap geek has a waiver calculator to make it easier for to see when players are no longer exempt. They also show the amount of games needed to be played based on signing age.
As far as Regin any other player being placed on waivers. You are correct. Any team can claim him in that 24 period. If multiple teams place a claim, the lowest team in the standings is awarded the player, and his contract term. Before this last cba there was re-entry waivers where a team could claim a player that had been recalled. The claiming the two teams involved would then split the salary of the player. Re-entry waivers have been eliminated and no longer exist.
A few years ago Evgeni Nabokov was playing over seas. The red wings needed a goalie midseason and signed him. Because of his age and experience he had to be exposed to waivers. The Islanders claimed him and he never played a game for Detroit despite signing the contract with the wings. Waivers are there so a marginal player get gets a better shot at the NHL so he isn’t toiling in the minors.
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