Jakub Pour

Blackhawks Sign Jakub Pour

On Tuesday the Blackhawks announced the team has signed forward Jakub Pour to a two-year, entry-level contract with a cap hit of $842,500.

Pour, 22, is listed at 6-3 and 198 pounds and is a left-handed shot. He recorded Czech League career highs in goals (12) and points (16) this past season for HC Plzen.

101 thoughts on “Blackhawks Sign Jakub Pour

  1. Bigger body, decent skater, 2way battler, not likely a top line guy but could play a role if he can find some offense, may get look at him after some time in Rfd.this year.

  2. the more candidates the better. likely has a man’s body by now. guessing fourth line left winger is a wide open competition come september. if he turns out to be a fourth liner who is hard to play against fine with me.

  3. SB- “Pour”ing on the older/bigger guys… Hoping couple turn into players

    Fact is the older Power forwards (NCAA/ Euro) should be closer to panning out or skating into obscurity versus drafting these… and waiting 5 years to see if they become players. I like the idea- of seeking these “Older” Power forwards. Kind of like finding Goalies on the cheap/ Undrafted/ Euro… if you have large numbers of them- your odds of finding good ones increase.

  4. Agreed that bottom 6 big bodied players who can cycle at the NHL level and crash the net to bury rebounds or tip shots can be found amongst slightly older players (Pour is still only 22, Slavin is the same age for example)

    You don’t need great puck skills to play that role – if you did you’d be a top 6 player – and often these type of players are late bloomers – Zach Hyman for example who played 4 years of college

  5. This seems like a curious signing – as in what is the reasoning for this? With the last 3 Euro forwards – Kahun, Kubalik, and Suter – they all had an offensive game that could be middle-6 if they were able to play at the NHL level – but this guy hasn’t shown he is a true offensive player so I’m not seeing the purpose of using one of the precious 50 contracts on this guy. Hopefully the Euro scouts see something his stat line doesn’t show and he proves me wrong.

  6. Colliton does not care for physical forwards with size and rarely finds more than 6 or 7 minutes a game for any of them so I hope this kid enjoys Rockford with maybe a couple trips to the big club for a few shifts before being sent back down. Hawks are a tiny EURO team. Maybe they will be sneaky strong this season!

  7. Just curious – did I miss where Colliton stated he didn’t like physical forwards with size because that was news to me. But then he didn’t really have many physical forwards with size that warranted more than 6 or 7 minutes of ice time so I find it difficult to draw that conclusion.

    Two physical forwards with size that I can think of are Entwistle and Hardman who got some games late in the season. Entwistle got in 5 games and averaged 10 minutes. Hardman got in 8 games and averaged 11 minutes. That TOI seems pretty normal for 4 liners which is what Entwistle and Hardman are. The only other guy is Reece Johnson who got in 5 games and averaged 8 minutes. Johnson hit everything that moved but was inconsistent and did nothing else, so I don’t see a problem with him fading away to Rockford.

    Just my opinion … not trying to tell anyone what to think.

  8. I like these statistics. He’s got good size, he can contribute offensively, and seeing his PIM’s, he may have a physical game. Either that or he gets caught out of position and makes poor decisions. The former is good and the later is coachable. I don’t give SB too much praise. This is his pattern. He looks at Europe, college, and 1st round busts to find diamonds in the rough. All that being said, this may be a good find. As a lifelong Blackhawks fan, I want this signing to be that diamond. Let’s see what happens.
    Draft hopes: Either defenseman Carson Lambos or forward Cole Sillinger. Fingers crossed.

  9. TW – we all want some more size and bite on the Hawks including JC I bet

    Have to agree with ER that there was very few of those this past year who were NHL ready – Hagel certainly became a favourite of JCs and he brings a physical game but admittedly is not that big

    My feeling is the rash of new big bodies including Pour Slavic and Hardman off the top of my head is more than likely something that JC is lobbying for

  10. Questionable on offense AND defense but he’s tall!!! He’ll fit right in here!! By the time StanBo gets canned here he’ll have us look like a true expansion team!!

  11. Another FW with size for how many smurfs we have watch us end up with more players with size then smurfs once we roster reset.

    See a bunch of Shawzerlike Hagels fast good skating.

    Wonder who we ll get in next 36 mths.

    This player here just like Kempny Ruutta Kuhan Kubalik Pour we add one basically every yr. Good scouts bring us a NHL player from euro so that prob keeps coming.

  12. These players we get from euro are top 5 team quality deep players that make a difference in a top team being deep for decent caphits.

    So these players we get basically every yr are key and once were deep again we ll keep more of them.

  13. It will be tough to go deep into the playoffs with Suter,Kubalik,Kamph,Nylander,Hagel,DeBrincat,Kane,Dach,Reichel,Strome,Carpenter, comprising just about your entire forward core. Where does your physicality come from? It appears that Bowman is finally aware of this also. Players like Johnson,Hardman,Entwistle,a healthy filled out Gaudette should all have spots on this team. That would leave you with Kane,DeBrincat,Hagel,Dach,Suter and Kubalik to blend in with the bigger players along with Borgstrom. Roll the lines and get a physical man on each line.

  14. Put together a real 4th line that can play a regular shift and not 2 shifts a period. Look at the Islanders,Vegas,Canadians,and Bolts. They all roll their 4th lines out there on a regular shift. All are big,physical,and can play. If you can’t trust a forward to take a regular shift,he shouldn’t be on the roster.

  15. Is it de ja vu all over again?

    I went back in the archives to dig this out. It was published 2 years ago in PuckProse.

    “Yeo’s failures as St. Louis’s head coach could be summarized to one thing – a lack of structure. Yeo tried to turn the Blues into a high scoring speed machine with equal scoring contributions from all four lines.

    Sounds good in theory, but it obviously didn’t work. With each player not given a specific role, they had no specific place, let alone something to be held accountable for. Yeo’s system would have been perfect if he had a team of equally balanced, all-star talent to fill an entire roster, but no NHL team, let alone the Blues, is built as such.”

    Does this situation sound identical to the Blackhawks?

  16. Wijg it’s too soon to say if same is happening, maybe that approach is by design to evaluate available talent and give them a spot to show themselves. Agree to continue on that slope probably won’t produce results. I am interested to see how or maybe you prefer if they incorporate some of these bigger and/or more physical players that are Nhl ready or soon to be into the roster.

    To TimW’s point with guys like Hardman, Entwistle, Johnson, possibly Gaudette available now and players with the Hagel edge like Barrett, Alty, Morrison another bigger body and this Pour guy in Rfd. Slaggert looks like a comer and Saarela maybe a later bloomer. Until one shows they can win 50% of their fos and play a big league shutdown role, Kampf likely remains a fixture in the 4th C role but having a Hardman and Entwistle on his wings might provide an interesting 4th line next year. Gotta believe there will be some of the higher skill forwards in the middle 6 mix moved before camp and opening up some possibilities there as well.

  17. TimW if a bottom 6 player doesn’t play on special teams 9 to 11 mins of 5 on 5 ice time is probably the league average they will see most games.

  18. Ian, when you observe things you can see a lot. Over the last 3 years of Colliton, I see many similarities to Yeo.

    I don’t have enough information, knowledge or experience to make personnel recommendations for an NHL team.

    However, I do think it is fair to ask:

    What is the stated goal? Is it to win another Cup? If so, by when? Or, is it to ‘be competitive’?

    What is the strategy to achieve the goal? Is it to turn the Blackhawks into a high scoring speed machine with equal scoring contributions from all four lines?

    These are questions that fans deserve answers to.

    I know I’m not smart enough to figure this out myself. But, I am smart enough to ask the right questions.

  19. I keep looking at this in terms of Rockford, and what the Hawks have done since they took over the AHL franchise. They are adding bigger, more experienced players, and trying to bring more talent to the Hogs.

    The IceHogs have had declining attendance per game for the last 4 seasons, prior to the COVID effect. The ‘Hawks would not have taken over the franchise if they didn’t think they could make money doing it, or improve the talent pipeline to the main roster. You get attendance by bringing excitement, talent, and success to an AHL team. The Blackhawks appear to be doing that with the IceHogs. Like Chalupa, this is a Czech league transplant who is a 1-2 year AHLer before be competes for a main roster spot. Both have size, skating ability, and professional experience. I would expect we see more of the same as they build towards the 2021-22 season.

  20. Wijg maybe you’re right but what i observe also is the recent signings, plus the comments from both Bowman and Colliton about the need to be harder to play against with more grit, physicality etc., leads me to hope that is going to be addressed. As for long term goals, i believe the goal is to win another cup with 19 and 88 if possible without mortgaging the future, as was noted before it’s a procees and everything doesn’t happen at once, patience now but need to start showing results in next year or 2, is my view on how i expect it to play out.

  21. Agreed Ian – well put

    JCs contract is up after 2023 season – that is a marker I think for the Hawks

    If they’re not a competitive playoff team by then I wouldn’t expect JC back – the goal from their POV I think is to make the playoffs by then if not before and have team by playoffs 2023 capable of making a run although not win the Cup necessarily

    From there next steps can be taken

  22. I really appreciate the optimism shown here. We all hope things will change and the Cup will return to Chicago.

    It’s what makes discussions like this fun.

    Perhaps it serves as an escape from our work where we have performance goals and can get fired if they are missed (3 years in a row). Where if you have over 25% of your operating capital (Toews $10.5M, Seabrook $7M, Shaw $3.9M / Salary cap =$81.5M) tied up in non-performing assets, you would get fired. Where bad luck and unforeseen circumstances just excuses that no one cares about – especially the competition. Where you are held accountable for every decision you make.

    Oops, gotta get back to work. I need to get ready for my Friday review.

    (maybe I should just tell my boss my plan is that ‘I hope things get better’)

  23. ian

    two years left on the contracts for 19 & 88. i am not opposed for management to include both of them in the plans for the next cup competitive roster, but, barring a miracle, that is not going to be before the current contracts end at which time toews will be 35 years old and kane a few months short of that. me thinks that the $10.5 million each are currently being paid should pretty much be the ceiling of what they will be paid together on the next contract. and kane should likely get 2/3 of the total. maybe three years for kane and two for toews. and i would be broaching that subject with them RIGHT NOW if it is within league rules to extend them now. if they say no then without question i am asking them to waive their nmcs and i am making the best deal i can for each of them asap.

    when the end of the 22-23 season comes the two will have been paid $168 million dollars for eight years of playing on a mediocre team. not their fault, but who cares? $168 million to be the face of a team getting progressively worse until they finally fell into rebuilding mode. losing them at the end of 2023 for nothing is ridiculous. over paying going forward after 2023 for past performance is ridiculous. signing long extensions is ridiculous. the blackhawks need to maximize what is left of the value of these players and that is only done by signing them to team friendly extensions or trading them now. hard conversations need to take place.

  24. Just my two cents but if I were Hawks management and I wanted my young defensemen to learn how to play the game the right way I would seriously look to replace Sheldon Brookbank with some real back end coaching experience for our D-Men. I cant think of any available names right now but these kids need more structure and better coaching right now before they develop more bad habits. I`m sure there`s some good candidates out there. The sooner the better,

  25. Jim Ross – How about Steve Smith?

    12 years as an NHL Assistant Coach (Flames,Oilers, Hurricanes, Sabres), Stanley Cup champion as a player with Calgary. Chicago resident. Former Blackhawk.

  26. JG – if pro sports mimicked real life you’d be getting $750,000/year minimum at least and if you were even average at your job which I’m sure you are then more like $2.5 million/year but pro sports aren’t real life – too bad

  27. Wijg, CEOs and other top executives routinely get huge bonuses for companies going bankrupt and needing bailouts, restructuring daily. What appears to be failure to the average person is rewarded as success in business all the time.

  28. CEO’s and Top Mgt getting bonuses when companies fail is called corporate Power and Greed, nothing to do with rewarding success….ALL about Greed. My contract says this and I WILL get my bonus regardless….the rest of can eat cake.

  29. So Little Z wants nearly $6 for 5 years, what was Stan thinking.
    Trading Panarin once and Saad twice will leave the Hawks with/NADA.

    The rumor mill has Stan going after either Hamilton/Jones or Eichel.
    Going after the latter 2 will cost way too much and going after the former
    will be paying $8 mil to a D man who can’t play D

    And there is this

    https://www.tsn.ca/chicago-blackhawks-alleged-sex-abuse-of-players-police-1.1656229

    I have a feeling this summer will seal Stan’s fate and will happily be his last year
    in Chicago

  30. DB – The Wirtz Vatican will sweep the scandal under the rug (statute of limitations) with the help of the fawning media.

    The Blackhawks have convinced the media, and many here, the front office just needs more time and therefore nothing will change for another 3 years even though they suck at their jobs (literally and figuratively, as we just learned).

    The only good thing is that Bowman will make Colliton a sacrificial lamb if the natives get restless.

  31. Yes, I agree with options such as Steve Smith. I`m just not sure who is actually available these days. Even Trent Yawney rings a bell. I`m sure there`s many more out there that are better options than Sheldon Brookbank.

  32. Does Chelios even want to be an assistant coach. and if yes – good players don’t always make good coaches – see Wayne Gretzky.

    Stan – keep your powder dry and stay the course. Don’t pull the trigger on high priced free agents or asset sapping trades until the timing is right – which ain’t this offseason.

  33. Only way I am trading 19 88 is on last yr then we get return and then they return for decent/fair caphits back to the Blackhawks and we get those free assets.

    Jones
    Eichel
    Toews
    Kane

    is better then
    Towes
    Kane

    Your basically having Seabs Shaw Dunks retire and getting Jones Eichel with there caphits. Good exchangeagram.

  34. @dollar bill that article is clearly just to drum up support for an out of court settlement because based on the article the team will be found not responsible. While the guy was later convicted of a crime the team is no way responsible for what someone does years later in another state. Sounds like all events pertaining to the criminal took place outside of work, thats what it sounds like at least. Losers on another site are “calling for action” lol what dorks. I bet these people have never been to a home for the elderly and see how poorly staffed they can be at times and how difficult the job is. Just one example of where these keyboard warriors can better spend thier wasted time. Also wasnt he cinvicted of a crime that…once again took place away from the work place. The whole artivles presentation is idiotic and designed to make the team look bad with a heavy slant. Look at the facts.

    What happened is unfortunate but to place blame on a former employer because they didnt report a crime that didnt take place at work, that is strictly based on allegations is insane. Did the player not have a phone or way to communicate with actual police? If one of my employees said a manager broke into his house while i would investigate i would also expect the employee to report the incident to police, i shoildnt have to do it. Did this player not have an agent? Isnt there a players union that tackles these sorts of things? Pretty sure you could call osha, oh wait, didnt happen at work, thats right.

  35. Dach rumored to be on the move. Seth Jones,Jack Eichel,Dougie Hamilton??? Things are happening fast.

  36. Not sure how I like 77 being traded would have to be a monster return. We need players 19-27 not 30-35.

    Sure we need to ass a few elites with caphits from 5-10m range. Not to just add top heavys to add the missing positions we donot have and have to have to be a top team.

    We donot want to be EDM TOR hybrid and suck at D we already did that last 4 yrs.

  37. Credit Card ….. have you been living under a rock?
    Issues of sexual abuse aren’t taken lightly, and it’s not going to matter much when it happened, in today’s spotlight. It could definitely impact things based on statute of limitations legalities, but if it involves Blackhawks players, and the top brass, and goes to some kind of testimony under oath, it could have a huge impact.

    And what is this didn’t happen at work stuff? If any employee brings sexual assault claims to superiors, and the alleged sexual assault could be deemed to be impactful of the perception of the players’ views of whether it relates to their ability to play/work/get playing time …. i.e. advancement (yes, perception, that’s how the corporate training I’m subjected to all the time emphasizes it), that’s a huge deal.

    Marc Crawford got into all of his trouble for his non-sexual actions against players. When people in positions of authority (certainly in today’s environment, and I don’t think people will care that it was 10 years ago) don’t respond to such accusations, it’s just a bad deal. A real bad deal.

    You mention that you are an employer and that you would act certain ways regarding accusations made. That may be true in the area in which you work and how you perceive the situation. I can tell you I’ve seen people fired on the spot for far far less than what the Blackhawks accusations are. I’ve seen people go to jail, and they’re still there, for stalking, that took place at work and outside of work.

    This is not a good deal at all for McDonough, Bowman etc. If the testimony is under oath and on the record and it is concluded they did not do anything regarding the employee’s accounts of what the players were reporting …. that’s a bad situation to be in, regardless of when it happened.

    That Blackhawks may skate on this deal, certainly no pun intended, but let’s not minimize how this will be viewed and dealt with, regardless of when it happened. And the Blackhawks have the added burden since they have been very prominent in promotion of inclusion and respect. These allegations go against all they’ve been preaching up on various issues.

  38. Dach rumor coming from this Committed Indians site …folks are running out of intelligent fact based material to discuss .

  39. From The Athletic. Take from it what you will.

    Few teams in sports thrive on nostalgia as well as the Blackhawks. The three Stanley Cups of the modern era were just yesterday in historic terms, but as glory years fade and banners start to yellow, it becomes more enjoyable to talk about legacies than rebuilds, about past triumphs rather than current struggles.
    And so, the Blackhawks bring out recently retired players in full uniform for “One More Shift” before a game. Pregame montages and the hallways of the United Center are littered with callbacks to the 2010, 2013 and 2015 championships. Fans have heated debates over which players from the golden age of Blackhawks hockey will have their numbers retired and which ones will be immortalized in statue form. Hossa or Seabrook? Crawford or Hjalmarsson? Toews and Kane, of course.
    But legacies take time. They evolve. They change as history marches on, as new light is shed on old memories. And what if the modern Blackhawks legacy isn’t reviving a dormant hockey town, capturing the hearts of millions of new fans, becoming a global brand and minting Hall of Famers?
    What if the legacy is five men in a room, one laying out disturbing allegations of sexual abuse against a video coach, and the other four choosing to bury those allegations rather than take them to the police?
    This is the uncomfortable question Chicagoans and Blackhawks fans around the world are grappling with following a TSN report that, in 2010, then-president John McDonough, general manager Stan Bowman, vice president of hockey operations Al MacIsaac and sports psychologist James Gary refused to file a report with the Chicago Police Department after mental-skills coach Paul Vincent shared with them two players’ allegations of sexual assault by then-video coach Brad Aldrich.
    Vincent declined to discuss the matter further due to ongoing litigation, but he confirmed TSN reporter Rick Westhead’s reporting about the meeting to The Athletic on Friday. If the allegations prove true, it’ll be impossible to separate the Blackhawks’ on-ice success from an unconscionable off-ice failure.
    Even if the truth remains ultimately murky in the long run, a protracted legal process would inevitably stain the Blackhawks’ legacy. Per TSN’s report, Blackhawks lawyer John Stiglich filed a statement of defense on June 14 saying the case should be dismissed because the statute of limitations has passed. That’s not a denial, it’s a dodge.
    Yes, there’s also the financial element to all this. The Blackhawks may lose money in one or both of the pending lawsuits against them alleging they protected a sexual predator coach. They also might not. The statute of limitations and the interpretation of those limitations in these cases will be at the heart of what is ultimately ruled in court.
    But regardless of the financial outcome of the civil suits, what comes out of these cases is about so much more than money. What truly matters here is the truth. And if these allegations are indeed true, any consequence the Blackhawks suffer, be it in terms of money or reputation, will be nothing compared with the devastating and potentially life-altering impact on two young men’s lives. The players who have made these allegations have chosen to remain anonymous, as is their absolute right, but we shouldn’t lose sight of the human side of these distressing allegations.
    Ultimately, the truth will be what determines jobs, careers and legacies. What the Blackhawks knew and what individuals did and did not do will decide how the organization is thought of in what has been considered the highest point in franchise history. Will that continue, or will a dark cloud be placed over the period of their three recent Stanley Cups?
    The lawsuits themselves were already damning for the Blackhawks if true. The first filed last month accused the Blackhawks of ignoring the plaintiff, an unnamed former Blackhawks player, when he accused Aldrich of sexual assault. “John Doe” said he was also aware of another player being sexually assaulted by Aldrich. It also claims Gary “convinced Plaintiff that the sexual assault was his fault, that he was culpable for what happened, made mistakes during his encounter with the perpetrator and permitted the sexual assault to occur.” In the second complaint filed last month, the Blackhawks are accused by “John Doe 2” — a former high school hockey player who alleges Aldrich sexually assaulted him when he was 16 years old — of providing Aldrich positive references to future employers and did not report prior allegations of sexual assault against Aldrich.
    Aldrich was sentenced in 2014 to nine months of jail time and five years of probation after pleading guilty to fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct with a student while a volunteer high school coach in Michigan. Aldrich is a registered sex offender in Michigan.
    The Blackhawks did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Athletic.
    McDonough was fired as team president in April 2020. Bowman, MacIsaac and Gary are still team employees. Bowman was promoted to president of hockey operations last year and remains the team’s general manager. MacIsaac is still senior VP of hockey operations and has been with the organization for 21 seasons. Gary remains a mental-skills coach on staff. McDonough, Bowman and MacIsaac all had their names engraved on the Stanley Cup three times since that meeting.
    That was their legacy, forever etched in silver on hockey’s most hallowed prize. A permanent reminder of a team’s ineffable glory, of a city’s delirious joy, of a fan base reborn.
    The question we all have to grapple with now is — regardless of how many banners are raised, jerseys retired and statues erected — will it still be the franchise’s legacy when the final story of the 2010s Blackhawks is written?

  40. @Wraparound
    The Athletic had in a story that the Blackhawks could package Dach in a trade deal to get Seth Jones. It was from a “NHL Source” and who said that deal would be worth it. Report also said that Blackhawks were looking at both Dougie Hamilton and Jones, and that big moves might be made to shore up the back end, at the expense of giving away talent the have in the forward/center positions.

    Of course it was just one “source”. But it was put out there by Lazerus and Powers.

  41. Big Indian – great response.

    When I saw CC’s post I thought he was beyond reasoning with and let it go – kinda like when the drunk at the bar says something so crazy, its not worth even acknowledging, let alone discussing.

    Anyone who has worked in corporate America knows full well that using a position of power to pressure subordinate employees to engage in sex acts is highly actionable and grounds for immediate termination – regardless of where or how it actually happened. You would also know that a business is liable if they do not take action when aware of a situation.

    The facts are: 1. A Blackhawk employee used his position and power to try and coerce sexual favors from an employee using threats and intimidation. 2. The Blackhawks were aware of the situation – it was reported to the offenders superior and later discussed among top management (records show) and the Blackhawks failed to take any action. 3. Worse, the Blackhawks enabled the predator, Aldrich, by writing a letter of reference that allowed him to coach and molest young men elsewhere.

    The Blackhawks have considerable clout in Chicago and probably have some top notch law firms on their payroll. So, its not unlikely they will escape without paying any civil damages.

    But, just ask yourself these questions: 1. Did the Blackhawks do the right thing by not at least reporting it? 2. If this happened to you, or a family member, would you approve of what the Blackhawks did? 3. What would you do if your teenage boy was molested in Houghton Michigan by Aldrich and later found out the Blackhawks knew all along he was a sexual predator? 4. Should the Blackhawks be held accountable in some way even if the civil suit(s) get dismissed?

  42. CORRECTION: I should have said: ‘A Blackhawk employee is alleged to have used his position and power to try and coerce sexual favors from an employee using threats and intimidation’ in the statement below.

    The facts are: 1. A Blackhawk employee used his position and power to try and coerce sexual favors from an employee using threats and intimidation.

    It’s the allegation that was never reported to the police so they could further investigate.

    Also, even if no sexual acts occurred, the behavior of coercion, intimidation and abuse of power are actionable (I believe).

  43. JG – well said

    Regarding Dach it seems to be more a case of speculation rather than even rumour

  44. @credit card

    I imagine that going outside the “organization” pose many problems for said individual. A label will be given to anyone that does and as far as having a career in hockey, it’s kaput if you do. Going inside the organization was the right way of trying to solve the problem.

  45. Here is my move if all the dominos fall in place. I would sign Wennberg at 5.5mil x 4yrs and sign Montour at 4.5mil x 4yrs. What needs to happen is one of them to hold out until the seasons starts. Also deHaan needs to be picked up by the Kraken or traded. Next year those salaries are a substituted by Shaw’s and CDH’s dollars.

    Pretty sure Montour will be cheaper than Jones and will become your #2 Dman. Dach going nowhere.

    With what we know at this moment I like
    Kane DCat Dach Borgstrom Kubalik Hagel Gaudette Entwistle Hardman Connolly Nylander and Wennberg to replace someone. That someone in a rotation for breathers.

    Keith Murphy Stillman Zadorov Kalynuk Boqvist and Montour to replace someone. Again that someone in a rotation for breathers.

    I know I left JT out but he can also be in the rotation and will probably need the breathers the most.

  46. A couple of additional thoughts regarding the Aldridge, sexual assault situation – – these comments are not to minimize the accusations, nor are they to suggest that the Blackhawks behaved properly – – they are intended to add a little context on what could have happened leading up to now and what might happen going forward:

    John Doe (2) alleges that the Blackhawks provided … “Aldrich positive references to future employers …” When making hiring decisions, companies often differentiate between “references” which are usually limited to confirmation of employment (dates, position titles, salary, etc.) and recommendations (he/she is motivated, we would welcome him/her back, etc.). Even back in 2010 many, if not most, companies set policies to limit their communication about a former employee to the more generic type of information in order to avoid legal issues. While there is no way to know the exact wording of whatever the Hawks communicated to any/all of Aldridge’s prospective employers, it is likely they would be cautious. Further, the part of the allegation that the Hawks … “did not report prior allegations of sexual assault against Aldrich.” is a little vague – did not report the allegations to potential employers or to the police? If the former, that would be part of a negative recommendation and the Hawks likely would have avoided that; However, if it is the latter that is at the heart of the alleged failure of the Hawks.

    Quoting from the article in The Athletic, the suit alleges that Blackhawks sports psychologist James Gary “convinced Plaintiff [John Doe (1)] that the sexual assault was his fault, that he was culpable for what happened, made mistakes during his encounter with the perpetrator and permitted the sexual assault to occur.” Mr. Gary was present in the meeting that occurred with McDonough, Bowman and McIsaac when the assault was raised by mental skills coach Paul Vincent. Given that Mr. Gary is alleged to have convinced the victim of the crime that it was all his fault, it is reasonable to think that he would have also made arguments to obscure the facts during the meeting with McDonough, Bowman and McIsaac. While the victims of the assaults by Aldridge are the casualties of the sexual assault, I suspect that Mr. Gary will be the first casualty of the followup.

    I can’t believe the Blackhawks executive group would be so reckless (and stupid) that they would not have obtained advice from their human resources group (and possibly the larger Wirtz company HR group?) and both in-house and external lawyers. It is impossible to know precisely what advice the Hawks management group received from those advisors – and since the legal advice is privileged information, we likely never will. While I would hope that the advice from the HR people would have had some thoughtfulness and moral context, I suspect that the legal advice was followed. As Big Indian noted, while the Hawks “may skate on this” from a legal perspective, the court of public opinion does not recognize nuance and is very likely come down hard on management from Rocky Wirtz on down.

  47. Wrap, Elliott Friedman,Larry Brooks from New York and 2 Buffalo writers claiming that a deal is coming in a few days as the Sabres are checking recent medical history on one of the players coming to them.

  48. Big Indian – well stated.

    I suspect at some point the NHL will have to comment and it will basically say they have no comment on ongoing litigation but are concerned about the story. Then the NHL will eventually announce and investigate, and it won’t end without a cost of some kind to the Blackhawks.

    Regarding Dach for Eichel rumors – I think that would be as poor a decision as signing Hamilton. I would consider becoming a Walldog and sing the fire Bowman song if either of those two things happen.

  49. Then they could go get Dannault back from Montreal to be their faceoff/Defensive center man. Eichel,Borgstrom,Dannault,and Barratt would be your centers.

  50. TimW, i doubt very much Danault is going anywhere. The Hab faithful are up in arms now over lack of french Canadians on the roster, Danault and Drouin are the only 2, with Drouin likely on the way out, they probably will do everything possible to resign Danault. Dach for Eichel would be a hockey trade, can’t see the return of Toews having anything to do with it at all. Seems like a big trade or 2 will happen before the draft.

  51. Agree with alot of the comments on Brad Aldrich issue. He is definitely a horrible person, also agree with Uncle Bill that the organization/executives have followed and continue to follow aware legal advice on what their part is in all this.

  52. Was the victim(s?) of the sexual assault adults? If yes, did they make a complaint to the police? If not – why not?

  53. Uncle Bill – all excellent points.

    Yes, modern business protocol is to only acknowledge that an employee worked there in a certain capacity for a certain time. And no more. However, the lawsuit states they gave Aldrich a “letter of recommendation”. Until we see the letter (highly unlikely) we will never know if it was the bare minimum – nothing good or bad – or a positive endorsement.

    I am certain the Blackhawks consulted with in-house counsel and their lawyers. That only means they learned what their options were and the associated risks. Perhaps, what they could get away with.

    Just because you can get away with something doesn’t mean it’s ethical.

  54. @credit card

    Going through the organization is the right thing to do. Once you go outside of it you’re labeled as a troublemaker and that label sticks throughout the hockey world.

    He did it 100% the right way.

  55. As I’m hearing the rumors about Bowman making some moves, I have the same feeling I had when my teenaged kids took the car out for the night.

    Just sayin’

  56. wijg-
    Anyone who has worked in corporate America knows full well that using a position of power to pressure subordinate employees to engage in sex acts is highly actionable and grounds for immediate termination – regardless of where or how it actually happened. You would also know that a business is liable if they do not take action when aware of a situation.

    UNLESS- you are a politician- named Cuomo

  57. Read the Larry Brooks piece on Eichel – his mention of Dach is pure speculation on his part although probably accurate regarding what it would take to land Eichel

    I’m much more interested in acquiring Seth Jones than Eichel unless they know for sure that Toews is not coming back – three 8 figure salaries on one team has not proven to be a formula for success

    If Toews does come back a #1 D is the most pressing need I feel

    Plus the cost for Jones won’t be as high – even though Brooks again speculates that a deal for Jones would include Dach I don’t think so – Jones is not as high profile or a forward and he is only signed for one year more – if the eventual buyer gets Jones signed then the price obviously goes up but I think Boquist or Mitchell would be going to Buffalo not Dach

  58. Hamilton- is terrible at D- great on O

    Eichel= Derrick Rose- great player- ALWAYS getting hurt!

    No and No

    Only way Eichel makes sense- is SB is planning on banking his Cap during injured regular season… and then going way over cap at TDL into playoffs- and Eichel is able again. Not much of a plan.

  59. Three 8m caphits might not be ideal but really we had five 8 m caphit because Dunks and Hoss are that kind of players and that was with 2010-2015 prices.

    We just need a couple to do 5m area to make it work.

  60. There’s just something about Eichel that bothers me. His attitude or demeanor or something. It just strikes me as problematic. Maybe it’s the situation in Buffalo that makes him seem toxic but he had that same look when he was in college too. I know – don’t judge a book by it’s cover – but he strikes me as a “me player” and for as great of a player as he is I would be reluctant to have him be the center piece of the team.

  61. Let’s not forget about Nurse in Edmonton. He is also a UFA in a year. Making the same money as Jones. Nurse has more of a mean streak than Jones that we need. Edmonton is more in the need of an overhaul. More cash strapped. Nurse would probably be easier to get. We can pair one of our offensive smurfs with him for a good 1 2 punch.

  62. Thank you to Zadorov for pricing himself off the Hawks. This guy is insane if he thinks he is a close to 6 Million per year D Man. The Fansided site recommends that Boqvist,Mitchell, and Nylander spend the upcoming season in Rockford. Maybe the Hawks will stack that Rockford roster now that they own the team.

  63. ER – Have always felt the same way about Eichel since before his being drafted. Then right after, playing the I-don’t-know-if-I-want-to-sign now card. Attitude appears to be highly arrogant and heavily self-centered. I never met him – no. But enough interviews where he projects the same demeanor make it apparent to not be a one-off situation.

    Poison. Don’t need it.

    And John Gault – I am positive of my feelings!

    I think buying for the sake of buying this year is a premature situation that likely won’t end well. We don’t know what we have, so we really don’t know what we need. This time next year the team will be likely better formed (good or bad) and needs will be more defined by what is in the system. We are almost out of contract hell – why hurry back into it? My opinion.

  64. I positively don’t want the Hawks to acquire Eichel. I don’t want to acquire Jones or Hamilton either – not at this time in the case of Jones, never in the case of Hamilton. I think the rebuild process has to proceed for another couple years before high priced “finishing pieces” are added to the team. Don’t spend more Cap money than you have to so you hopefully have some left when it’s time to sign that high priced finishing piece.

  65. I like this if that trade happens. And still have Toews.

    TIM W.
    June 19, 2021 at 2:19 pm
    Then they could go get Dannault back from Montreal to be their faceoff/Defensive center man. Eichel,Borgstrom,Dannault,and Barratt would be your centers.

    IAN
    June 19, 2021 at 2:51 pm
    TimW, i doubt very much Danault is going anywhere. The Hab faithful are up in arms now over lack of french Canadians on the roster, Danault and Drouin are the only 2, with Drouin likely on the way out, they probably will do everything possible to resign Danault. Dach for Eichel would be a hockey trade, can’t see the return of Toews having anything to do with it at all. Seems like a big trade or 2 will happen before the draft.

  66. tim w

    fansided is as relevant to hockey as baby bowman is to managing a salary cap.

    and ….. zadorov has not priced himself out of the hawks range until his contract with another team has been signed. an agent’s job is always to shoot for the moon and take what they can get.

    i would be happy to have the hawks sign him for one year (only one year) @ $6 million ONLY IF that meant boqvist, mitchell, and beaudein would each spend the full season at rockford playing twenty minutes a night.

    play keith, kalynuk, zadorov, stillman, de haan, and murphy and sign some journeyman jamoke to a one year deal as the seventh guy.

  67. Should make the Dach trade and have a line of Reichel, Eichel and Kane on the cycle.

  68. Then maybe a 2nd line of Cat, Toews and Kubalik, with a couple more lines that are bit more physically able to compete, plus able to add some secondary scoring.

  69. Ian, I hope you are right about your confidence that Toews is coming back but what is your plan if his career is over and this team heads into the rebuild without a #1,2,or 3 Center? If I were Bowman I would be big game hunting if he has information that Toews won’t be back. I am not a proponent of it but it seems to make sense that he would look to get both Eichel and Hamilton or Seth Jones to offset negative Toews news.

  70. If you guys are right aboiut Eichel thats good. What we need is the top pair Defensemen two of them. Not another elite FW/yet.

  71. For worrys of not adding large caphits right after we unload/retire the core players except 19 88 caphits we had for a decade. Sure. Thing is the type of players we would have would be in high demand if we had to/needed to trade them if chemistry isint really good. Seabs was hard to because he wasnt as good because he was hurt not father time.

    Adding the elites back to get back the quality we had and donot have now like 81 4 7 sure ideally right before were good again. Thing is there we have to add them not to spend just to spend but to get back what we had and actually have two top Defensemen where we have 0 right now/in system.

    Anywhere in next 36 mths is fine doesnt mean we cant here in mth 1 just make sure the players are 27 28 29 not 33 and its fine. Plus maybe we can trade or make another ufa top pair Defensemen when the older of the two we add gets to 33 and get another thats 27.

  72. Do want to do reload propely like ER says about the age of the players. Just that we do it though donot sit on the free capspace. Bowman did excellent this yr with adding summer ufas and getting free draft picks from it. It allowed the younger players to have a legit chance to play with us only being a couple top pair Defensemen short so they wernt in too high of slots.

    Trickle.

    Need to do exactly the same this summer and tradeline as we go along developing the young wavers.

  73. Could be time to replace the 2 referees in Montreal right now with 2 more linesmen. It’s not like they care about the rules of the game tonight.

    Trying not to influence the outcome by not carrying a whistle with them is altering the game anyway. Just call the game or get off the ice.

    I prefer watching hockey.

  74. Silent spot
    Tabarnak….you are right 100%
    Those ref should be kick out before overtime start

  75. I read about the Eichle and Dach rumor on hockey writers as well….bit they also stated Jones is on their radar too. See what happens, going to be an interesting off-season

  76. TimW, i don’t really expect Dach to be traded or Eichel acquired. Would have no problem with Reichel, Dach Kane line though. Toews ecpected back, got no reason to doubt it right now. Suter with Kane and Cat, looks like a mismatch on paper but Cat had a career year, Kane matching career nos in points and helpers, goal output down was his choices to shoot less. Corsi and other possesion numbers weren’t great but that was a team issue not a couple of players, so unlikely a dream center improves that lines output last year. Borgstrom and maybe Shalunovas middle 6 possibilities, with Kampf still bringing a needed 4th line role, center may be ok.

    Silent agree terrible reffing tonite, about worst playoff game to watch this year, even both teams except for goalies really didn’t play like playoff teams.

  77. Watched TB ISL didnt see VEG MTL was it bad for both teams or were they trying to save Betmans face and throw game to VEG so a bottom 15 team isint in finals.

    Without the corona divisions MTL is a top 10 draft picks.

    Same thing for us last yr if were not playing `12 team byins orand were playing WIN in 2nd round we could have been conf finals/I mean corona conf finals with Crow and half a roster last yr.

  78. I fully expect Toews back and no Eichel and this summer or next two summers we add 1 or 2 top pair Defensemen and if its 1 then we add the other at tradeline like TB did with Mcdounut.

  79. We know they donot call as much in playoffs/and saying this here has nothing to do woth what you guys are talking about.

    Last time we were 1 seed and still had most of roster what I thought was HS was how refs would only call half of the certain types of penaltys. Like they let all hooks holds interference go and only call the trips slashs high sticks the things that the more skilled teams would do and let the bigger and physical teams get away with the hooks holds interference.

    Its whichamacallit enough that teams that are bigger have that advantage but you cant strap the skilled teams by only calling 3 of 6 types of penaltys.

    I know why they do it because its easier to make those calls then the hooks holds interference and that way they are more right of the time. Just HS though because those are the types based on skilled or meatheaded teams.

    They need to call all types of penaltys and if they let anything go it needs to be a strength factor like little/weak stuff on sacle of 1-10 let up to 5 go and call 6-10 strength facotr but call all penalty types.

  80. Looking ahead to the draft and I think I’ve been sleeping on Fyodor Sbechov – watching his hilights (I know they all look good when cherry picked) he looks like a real gamer – strong two way player strong on the wall more playmaker than scorer really high IQ and vision but has a good wrister powerful skater – the sort of under the radar pick the Hawks often make

    I know the Hawks haven’t had good luck drafting Russians but that should change because there are a lot of good Russian NHL players

    Just thought I’d add his name to the mix because. I really liked what I saw

  81. For the draft people here like the three often mentioned for that 12 area pick. Some other player someone mentioned and this guy here.

    Sillinger
    Wallstedt
    Tavish
    Lambos
    Svechkov

    These are the five people here like the most? I think I like getting the better FW player and get the top pairs Defensemen from ufa in next trhee summers.

  82. Ian, I think the reason to doubt it is that Toews has said nothing and Bowman only stated that he “EXPECTED” to have Toews back. Why the radio silence so to speak if he is definitely coming back? If Bowman is completely sure he is coming back than why call about Eichel? In theory you have Toews,Dach,Borgstrom,Kamph,Strome,Gaudette,Suter,Barratt lined up at center. The only way you would look at Eichel is that he is your #1 Center and Toews,Dach,Strome are not on the roster. I guess in a month or so we will have a much clearer picture on what is going on. I think its a lot!

  83. TimW, Shaw and Dehaan were expected back last year after missing almost all season without any comments from them, that’s not unusual unless you want to make it so. Possible we don’t hear anything concrete until training camp physical, which isn’t unusual. Trades are made all the time, Laine for Dubois etc., we don’t know for sure how serious Bowmans inquiry was or if he really made any on Eichel yet or not for sure. Saying Dach can’t be a number one center at this point is as meaningless as me saying he is already one.

  84. @wrap..agreed regarding Fyodor..he and Wallstedt are the two players I hope drop to the Hawks in the draft..Wallstedt may not be there by pick 11, but Fyodor should be..several comments above have mentioned signing Danault this offseason..I think Fyodor has a similar ceiling as a 2c who plays a 200 ft game..the only difference is he’ll be about $5 mil less a year and is a decade younger..he’s my pick at 11 assuming Wallstedt isn’t available..and even if he is and the Hawks drafted Fyodor, I’d be o.k. with that too..

    @ebony@silent spot..agreed regarding Eichel..I’m not sure if it’s a general attitude that he has, but he doesn’t feel like the leader of a franchise to me-which you better be at 10 mil per. I’m also not a fan of the Hawks building their team like Toronto..essentially front loading with a handful of 10 mil dollar players and then filling in around them with cheap bodies just to ice a roster-in today’s NHL, you really need a balanced roster..if Tavares, Marner, and Matthews can’t get it done, I don’t have high hopes for a roster built around Toews, Eichel, and Kane..regardless of whether or not Toews plays next year, until he and Kane’s contracts are up, I wouldn’t be looking to take on any additional, similar salary..

    @morrison..agreed..I’d be o.k. with taking the forward in the first round this year if the choice is the Hawks highest ranked forward vs their highest ranked defenseman..forwards, generally speaking, tend to be a little easier to project at the nhl level-and especially this year, when there isn’t as much tape on a lot of the prospects anyway because of covid shortened or cancelled seasons, go with the forward..

  85. Fyodor will probably be gone when Hawks take their 2 round pick but I don’t think they should pick him with their 11 pick .
    Hope they will pick McTavish with their pick …iff he is still available.

  86. H2010 – agree if McTavish is there but I expect he won’t be

    Svechokov has a little bit of Kucharov in him the way he passes the puck and sees the ice

    Not saying he’ll be as good but he’s looks to have a very high IQ and sees plays that others don’t plus he’s got decent size plays well defensively

  87. For all those that like to play ‘what if’, Capfriendly has an Expansion Draft Simulator (just Google it) where you can check off who you would protect and who is exempt.

    BTW, the Blackhawks have Seabrook and Shaw exempt because they are on the LTIR – but NOT Toews. Because of his NMC, the Blackhawks are required to put him on the Protected list.

    Perhaps Ian in right and Toews is coming back.

    Otherwise, Bowman is a complete idiot (entirely possible) for not putting him on the LTIR exempt list and thus burning a Protected spot on a guy who is not coming back.

  88. JG – nobody is ‘right’ about Toews because nobody knows anything except what we’ve been told – that they’re expecting him back

    That he’s on the protected list would seem to indicate that the Hawks are indeed expecting him back – important to realize that is different from knowing for sure he’ll be back

  89. Wijg the rules say basically a player has to have no reasonable expectation of playing again to be exempt from draft, Toews isn’t in that category right regardless of what happens.

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