Blackhawks Sign Lukas Reichel

On Wednesday, the Blackhawks announced the team has signed forward Lukas Reichel, the clubs’ 2020 first-round pick, to a three-year entry-level contract that runs through the 2023-24 season. The deal has a $925,000 salary cap hit.

Reichel, 19, had an impressive World Championships, scoring two goals and four assists in nine games for Germany.

From the team’s release:

“Lukas made tremendous strides in his second year as a professional. The game appeared to slow down for him this past season, which allowed his play-making skills to be on full display,” said Blackhawks President of Hockey Operations and General Manager Stan Bowman. “Bringing him over to North America is the logical next step for his continued development and we’re excited to be able to add such a young, dynamic player to our forward group.”

133 thoughts on “Blackhawks Sign Lukas Reichel

  • June 9, 2021 at 2:56 pm
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    Be very interested to see if he’s ready for NHL action or will need time in Ahl

    Either way indicators are that he’s going to be a solid contributor to the Hawks one day be it sooner or later

  • June 9, 2021 at 3:03 pm
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    i could see him spending next year in rockford

  • June 9, 2021 at 3:13 pm
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    Regarding him playing in North America ,it will be interesting to see his abilities with Rockford icehogs as it’s a little different than playing in Europe ! Harder hitting ,long bus trips and playing against players some if which are older,bigger and wiser ! Philip

  • June 9, 2021 at 3:22 pm
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    ian

    how does the elc work for him? does it start this year regardless of where he plays or only if he plays for the hawks?

    if when he plays for the hawks i don’t want to see him in chicago until he is ready to compete. physically and skillfully. rockford is for development, not the nhl. imo the hawks would have been better served with boqvist at rockford and dach back with his junior team for the 19-20 season and saving a year on both of their elcs.

  • June 9, 2021 at 3:40 pm
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    My feelings is that he will not play with the Hawks from the start of the season and hope they will not play him before 40-50 games with Rockford.
    Just let the kid take a 4-5 more kilos before playing him ( 19 years old 3 weeks ago)
    No rush except iff he his 2-3 steps ahead on is game in AHL.
    We have many other prospects in the pipeline.
    1-2 years playing with Mitchell and Others young kids will help him for sure.

  • June 9, 2021 at 4:00 pm
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    Simon he just turned 18, so unless he plays 10 nhl games he would be slide eligible. So unless a european clause comes into play he could play in Rfd without burning an elc year. Not convinced that will be the case though.

  • June 9, 2021 at 4:01 pm
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    Just turned 19 should be

  • June 9, 2021 at 4:07 pm
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    Yay! Not unexpected, but YAY anyway.

  • June 9, 2021 at 4:15 pm
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    why take advantage of him being able to learn the american game at rockford for a year without blowing an elc year when he can help the hawks go nowhere next year and start his pay date clock?
    seems to me a nine game look see at the end of march would be the way to go.

  • June 9, 2021 at 4:29 pm
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    Hawks 29
    Agree for March for that 9 games.
    Let the kid adjust first .

  • June 9, 2021 at 5:22 pm
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    Great to hear that Reichel is coming. It will be interesting to see if he develops as a center and Dach is moved to wing in training camp 2022. I would imagine due to his very young age and recently playing with full sized NHL type players that he will be eased in and sent to Rockford relatively quickly before he is brought up to the Hawks next March to play 5 or so games to get him ready for 2022-2023 season. I have to believe that the Hawks have learned their lesson with bringing Dach up way too soon and will not duplicate that mistake. Although I get the feeling that Reichel is probably farther along then Dach was when he arrived here.

  • June 9, 2021 at 5:28 pm
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    Also read an expansion draft article from the Fanside site that projected the Hawks protecting Nylander and Strome and leaving Gaudette and Borgstrom unprotected. Their projection further stated that the Kracken probably would not select DeHaan. I kind of doubt that Bowman would rave about Borgstrom and then leave him unprotected.

  • June 9, 2021 at 6:21 pm
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    tim w

    trying to predict bowman’s moves is a fool’s errand.

    couldn’t agree with you more about bowman pissing away a year of dach’s elc when he wasn’t ready to compete in the nhl. you can throw boqvist in the same boat.

    and what a wonderful and surprising bonus it would be if reichel could play center.

  • June 9, 2021 at 7:14 pm
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    I say if the kid earns spot in pre-camp/pre-season let him play in NHL.

    Lot of hacks playing in NHL- I think this kid is very cerebral and has a high IQ for Hockey. He would be better served playing w Guys who can think and finish- like in the NHL. He is a responsible hard working player!

    Only reason- he might be in AHL- is if Stan has some long term cap target plan and wants to slow play/pay this kid- w future goal of major UFA out there in next few years.

  • June 9, 2021 at 8:06 pm
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    Reichel will determine whether he starts the year in CHI or RKF with his play – I’ll wait and see before deciding which is best for him

    TW – I agree that no way Stan leaves Borgstrom unprotected- if Strome were to get traded pre expansion draft then Gaudette could be protected but if not I see Gaudette being exposed

    I think the Hawks will end up losing either Gaudette or Stillman unless Stan throws a sweetener Francis’ way to get him to select CDH

  • June 9, 2021 at 11:54 pm
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    Remember when 20 played two games for when 81 got hurt/he wasnt ready yet. Then became a star player.

    See same thing here with Reichel donot let him play 10 games/even if he does though in 2nd 40 games/would say its better to wait until 23 season. Is hes rfa for 25 season tahts about when were going to be a top team again so wether its 25 or 26 season for his elce hes going to a higher caphit around then anyways and it would only be just the one yr for more cap space to use.

    2025 is going to be a very exciting yr for Blackhawks.

  • June 10, 2021 at 5:49 am
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    Playoff hockey. Got to love it. Matthew Barzel ice time. 3:21 1st, 4:13 2nd and 2:45 in the 3rd. Yet Isles win 6-2. Team hockey, heavy hockey, of corse intelligent coach. TDL pick ups Palmeri and Zajac score also Cutterbuck (en) Cizikas plenty of play.

  • June 10, 2021 at 6:55 am
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    I think the Hawks will leave Dylan Strome unprotected. With Reichel now signed, I could see him starting as our #3 center until he is ready to assume #2 center duties, and he will flip with Pius Suter or Borgstrom. If the Krak-heads select Strome, that means that we get $3M off our books and we can use it to sign a top-4 defensemen. They will not take deHaan with all of his injuries and his $4M price tag. I don’t see the Hawks leaving Borgstrom unprotected or even Nylander. I could see the Hawks losing Gaudette in the expansion draft. But, in reagrds to this article, I think Reichel is going to be a centerman for the Blackhawks.

  • June 10, 2021 at 6:58 am
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    That was a good 4-2 in. BOS didnt have a top 4 D guy and that was turing point ISL didnt look back after Clutter? took him out woth head into glass.

    The cheapshot sneamy shoulder to head in game 6 should have been 5 min and if refs miss those during play at intermission they should start period with 5 min. Prob still doesnt make a difference since ISL scored 3 goals and 4-1 after period. Still have to try to make it right at intermissions or between games.

    Cant allow teams to get away with things like that. I mean the game 6 head shot not the clutter/top 4 D guy one.

    I though COL could choke with no experience. They will be the top team in league next though when they get enough exp/learn fast this yr next yr.

  • June 10, 2021 at 7:02 am
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    Have said before I hope it never comes to not burning an elc year deciding if a prospect plays in Nhl or not. Patience with Dach, Boqvist and others progression before scrapping them before their due time is a known that must happen, Reichel will fit where he shows he should be come next year I guess.

  • June 10, 2021 at 9:24 am
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    Anybody else think Toews told StanBo to cram the 56 game schedule? His public comments…”no one told me we were in a rebuild…”, then letting Saad go (JT loved ManChild) ring too loud to me. A year off was a good thing, but is Toews ready to move his NTC and find a contender to play for in the next few years? He’s 33 already, may not be ready to “coach” all the kids for the next 3-5…

  • June 10, 2021 at 10:57 am
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    Yes Jim – thought it all along. Toews and Keith were obviously the guys who rejected JC as a coach and while Keith is being credited with a turnaround in approach, Toews never was. At $10.5 million per year and his lack of performance over the past few years, he has been a greater burden than asset to the structure of the team. Like other things in life, the signing made sense at the time but hasn’t fulfilled the expectations.

    Bowman gets credit for the signing (regardless of who actually mandated it) and it is an albatross contract right now. Seabrook’ s obviously a killer too. A couple of MacKinnon contracts would have likely gotten a couple more rings for those guys. But I don’t blame them for taking what they got. It was manglement that stopped the championships from continuing. Loyalty to players in a cap era is a dangerous thing. The stupid contracts allowed with Keith and Hossa saved the team at the time and obviously was part of the reason the league no longer allows them. It was a perfect storm that brewed up the championship run. Now we have a mess that is just about cleaned up and can try to start all over.

    The rules are harder now. It takes unselfishness and luck now. Pitt got great goaltending at the right times of their build. Washington got the right coach for the stars for their win. Edmonton and Toronto have talent, but their salary structures don’t match the times very well. They just can’t get lucky with a goalie. Yet.

    Hot goalies win championships. Or a series. See Carey Price. Vasilevskiy. Or even what Crawford could cover here the past few years.

  • June 10, 2021 at 11:12 am
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    Based on how Dach and Boqvist were handled I think Stanbo wants Reichel in the lineup asap. Both were shoved into the lineup before they were ready although Dach handled it pretty well for a gangly rookie. The difference between them and Reichel might be that right now we have a few more guys that can actually play so there is possibly less pressure to put him in immediately.

  • June 10, 2021 at 11:43 am
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    Congrats to the kid. Don’t rush him along at all hawks.

  • June 10, 2021 at 12:16 pm
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    Teams are forced to have entry level contracts on their NHL roster now. There simply isn’t room to have 20 players each making $5-10 million a year. That math can’t work today. If you are gonna have 2 players making $10.5 per year and other high end contracts ( now somewhat relieved by retirement and trades), you MUST have players on ELC deals too. It’s called math.

    Now the adjustment needs to come from players taking lower salaries to allow more players of talent on their teams. Flat cap for what, 4 more years? We WILL have entry level contracts playing. We have no choice. Dach was more prepared than Boqvist in my opinion. But we now have a greater amount of ELC candidates to choose from, having paid a price – no pun intended – this past season in breaking in a bunch of players. The groundwork is better laid for for our ELC players to contribute in the next 2 years while getting our team salary structure in order.

    The writing is on the wall for the near future of the NHL. No increase in cap means players wanting big bucks are a problem to your team, not a help.

    Remember – 16 of the top 17 highest salaried players in the league didn’t get to participate in the 2nd round. Carey Price was the outlier.

    I don’t think it was a coincident. It’s a message to the players. Money and championships are becoming mutually exclusive.

    Athletes want a large say with the business they work for these days. Look to Green Bay for the latest example. Hint: Most aren’t “seasoned” enough to run a sports team.

  • June 10, 2021 at 12:58 pm
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    Silent – so you would have been OK with holding out for a hometown discount with Toews and Kane, risk pissing them off and if they didn’t agree to it then letting them walk in free agency becasue there would have been a line up of teams willing to0 shell out the $10.5 the Hawks did

    Blame T and K if you want (I don’t) for wanting fair market value but don’t blame Stan for signing them to contracts at or under what they would have received on the open market

    Remember Stan got them for $6 million each when they were both RFAs which allowed them to win 2 more Cups – agreed that once those $10.5 contracts kicked in it has been much harder for the Hawks to win but again I ask would you have been OK with letting them walk or trading them in their prime rather than pay what other teams would have paid them as free agents?

  • June 10, 2021 at 2:00 pm
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    Alot of the reason Price is only player earning over 10m currently still playing is teams like Leafs and Oilers gambled and paid their young stars huge mega year deals instead of bridge deals before they showed they could win it all. While the Blackhawks, Kings rewarded for services delivered after bridge deals, i know which i prefer, but it allowed a little more parity when teams under achieve on their gamble. Superstars will still get paid handsomely likely in flat cap era but middle range salary players will likely feel the brunt of the pinch on salaries. That could benefit Blackhawks alot with no long term salaries to limit them now.

    Jim no i don’t think a player earning 10.5m in salary throws a hissy fit and refuses to play without some legal ramifications like Buff had to deal with by losing his pay for the year. Just doesn’t seem reasonable to me.

  • June 10, 2021 at 2:23 pm
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    Jim….spot on about Toews and Ian, you don’t think it’s possible that Toews threw a hissy fit ?? Toews certainly did, and his mysterious illness is proof positive that he did. If Toews want to be captain, then he needs to show the kids what a captain behaves like….even when your career is at an end, Bea man and start being a mentor….that’s what your being paid for right now. If Toews wants to bail on his teammates….let him go, no need keeping someone that doesn’t want to be a leader when he has the C on his chest….want an example of a good captain…. Shane Doan….he stuck it out when he was at his end and showed those kids what it means to be a captain.

  • June 10, 2021 at 2:25 pm
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    As for Reichel….let his training camp dictate where he plays. Make it a VERY difficult decision for the organization to make.

  • June 10, 2021 at 2:53 pm
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    I agree @Tommy and would not protect Strome now that Reichel is in the house. Give the Butt-Kraken a chance to grab him.

  • June 10, 2021 at 3:17 pm
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    Leaving Strome exposed for the Krak to select is bad asset management- if the Hawks don’t think he fits here then trade him – he has some value more than Gaudette for example – but just to give him away for free is being a bad GM

    Unless Strome is traded before the draft which I think is possible (depending on how much they like an unproven Gaudette and/or Borgstrom) I expect the Hawks to protect him give him another year and if it’s still not working trade him at TDL 2022

  • June 10, 2021 at 3:20 pm
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    Beer League your post is exactly why i don’t think its reasonable to believe that Toews did that.

  • June 10, 2021 at 4:20 pm
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    Jim- if that’s the attitude Toews has, then he can piss off, but I don’t think that’s why he sat out. Something was/is going on with his health, whether it be physical, mental, or both, and we’re just not privy to it. I’d imagine that the Hawks have their players contracts insured. I don’t think a provider would pay out a claim (if the Hawks put one in) for a player knowing only that he “felt lethargic”. They’d want some kind of professional diagnosis. I also don’t think the Hawks would pay Toews to sit out the season and pay him just because he didn’t feel right. I could be wrong though

  • June 10, 2021 at 4:37 pm
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    Should Stan and JC let Reichel play in the show next year before he gets acclimated at the Rock it will prove 2 things. One, the Hawks have no depth at the Rock at all and two, Stan has no clue as to how to build a team. Three of their top draft choices in the last 2 years all brought up to early…..That’s Oiler/Sabre territory and that’s not good at all.

  • June 10, 2021 at 6:47 pm
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    Wrap
    I have no complaints about how Toews and Kane got paid at all. I also was under the impression that the $10.5m contracts were indeed home discounts, but maybe I remember wrong. I thought they wanted $12m originally.

    My point – which I did not do a good job explaining – was that those contracts (and Seabrook now) hurt because the salary cap hasn’t acted as expected. Instead of going up drastically over the past 6 years, it has barely moved. I think that has impaired Bowman with bringing in quality assets that he anticipated would be financially doable. This was detrimental to the continuation of a strong team, and teams like Pitt got lucky (or call it better personnel decisions) with key young assets, particularly goalies. Look at Colorado now with Macar, Boston with McAvoy and Pastrnak. Those salaries on kids are/were very beneficial to help bridge talent on the team. We have no kids like that, except Dcat for a year, Kubalik a year ago and Panarin, who clearly was going to ask for the moon and deserved to think he should get it.

    Today, with a flat cap for what – 4 more years – we get to refresh our salary distribution, and the just ended season will allow us to have some cheap assets we know and can build with in the near future. I’m onboard with what is going on completely, but the rest of the league is gonna learn that ELC contracts are where the differences are. You gotta find talent on the cheap to support the highly paid stars. You can’t just go get a top end UFA every year because of the cap.

    Imagine the position the Hawks would have been in if the cap had risen sharply for the past 10 years. We could easily have gotten most any UFA we wanted to join the team for a quick run at a cup. Brad Richards did it, and players like him would have loved to jump on board.

    I believe a flat cap actually helps us now. How will Toronto, Edmonton, Tampa, Colorado and others deal with pay in the next few years? We have an easy plan.

  • June 10, 2021 at 7:47 pm
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    Silent – Ok got it ; )

    The Hawks as you remember benefited from T amd K being on ELCs for the 2010 Cup and they didn’t get their 8 figure contracts until they had 3 Cups whereas Matthews Marner McDavid have not won anything yet

    Agreed that Stan is in a good place now in this flat cap era although unloading Seabs contract in the next year or two could be very beneficial

  • June 10, 2021 at 9:13 pm
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    I gave it to Rask when he left his team during the middle of the playoffs and BOS had a top 5 team.

    Tazer opted out on purpose I am ok with because it was regulaer season where we wernt suppose to make playoffs/12 seed yr before with 20 50 77 19. With 3 AHL goalies and no 20 50 77 Tazer opted out on a rebuilding/development yr. Blessing for this so we can get a better drfat player.

    Now when were back to a top 5 team again and in middle playoffs then I would extremly pissed.

  • June 10, 2021 at 9:17 pm
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    Wonder if Shalunov will be next signing, add a big body to the Center picture.

  • June 10, 2021 at 9:20 pm
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    19 88 can do less this time for caphits 8 m and 10 m and shorter yrs.

  • June 11, 2021 at 12:00 am
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    Watched Vegas beat COL who plays defense almost as bad as the Hawks

    Seems to me COL could have used Zadorov on the back end rather than Girard Timmins or Nemeth – just saying – they got manhandled by Vegas forwards

    Bad defense did them in last year as well vs DAL

    Pietreangelo Martinez Theodore is impressive top 3 D

  • June 11, 2021 at 1:06 am
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    As much as I don’t care for Vegas,I took great pleasure in seeing the AVs eliminated tonight. Between their annoying Altitude Network Announcers/Fan Club and Pierre Maguire slobbering all over them the last couple of months, I was real tired of them. MacKinnon was pretty much non-existent and their coach was severely outcoached by DeBoers. I would expect Bednar to be fired in the next few days.

  • June 11, 2021 at 1:13 am
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    MO, I gotta disagree with you on your Toews sitting out opinion. If he does not have some very serious physical condition that he had to overcome, I would say that his future here should be done and his legacy would take a huge hit. Don’t know how you look your teammates in the eyes if you bailed on them because you were not happy with the roster. I know as a fan that I would never look at him the same way again.

  • June 11, 2021 at 6:35 am
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    Danault – having a solid post-season. Really loved watching him play in Rockford.
    Absolute bulldog- as tenacious as Kruger with way more skill/strength.

    Great 2 way player- poor man’s Bergeron.

  • June 11, 2021 at 8:23 am
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    TW – if Toews sat out the season because he didn’t like the direction of the Hawks he would have been suspended without pay

    There’s no way even Toews is gonna get $10.5 million of Rocky’s money to sit out for no good reason and if there is no medical reason the insurance company is not going to cover it either

    Granted I think Toews should have provided us some more explanation/update by now which is too bad because the lack of transparency is fueling wild speculative theories

  • June 11, 2021 at 8:26 am
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    TW – agree that Bednar got outcoached

    Plus Avs also did themselves in with really poor puck management when it mattered and Kadri’s suspenson

  • June 11, 2021 at 8:41 am
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    WRAP, I agree with your TOEWS position. I just do not understand not being upfront about your condition so that all of this speculation can be killed. I assume his teammates and the organization know what is going on to lessen the distraction but this situation really is unique and has no precedent as far back as I can remember. If he doesn’t return,Buffalo is actively shopping Eichel. I know all the reasons to scoff at him but I will tell you,when he is healthy and interested he is something to watch.

  • June 11, 2021 at 8:44 am
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    About Toews
    I think it’s a kind of depression due to ?
    Off course there is no way Insurance or Rocky would pay him iff there was nothing serious…Wrap is right on .
    Maybe he doesn’t have anymore…le feu sacré….like big Buff .
    Sometimes after a few good years with cup it’s getting hard to play without having the spirit. Specially when you know it will be difficult to get there again .
    Nobody deals the same with different situation .

  • June 11, 2021 at 9:27 am
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    Toews was the leagues best center from 09-15, but now ?? Not even in the top 20.
    I believe after Toews openly questioned off season moves, he decided to sit out this year, had a discussion with mgt and they came to mutual agreement. A mysterious illness with zero information will be given out,and with the CCP Virus, nobody would question anything. It make zero sense for the organization to give nothing to the fans about Toews…. transparency is wonderful isn’t it.
    I still stand by my statement that Toews needs to step up and be the leader he is paid to be…..if you don’t want that task….then leave, give Kane the C….and move on.

  • June 11, 2021 at 11:51 am
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    I think we will know what is going on with Toews by July 21st.

    Scenario #1 – Toews has a career ending condition, like ALS or other medical condition, and is definitely not coming back, the Blackhawks will have to notify the NHL.

    The expansion draft stipulates that players with potential career-ending injuries who have missed more than the previous 60 consecutive games (or who otherwise have been confirmed to have a career-threatening injury) may not be used to satisfy a team’s player exposure requirements unless approval is received from the NHL. Such players also may be deemed exempt from selection.

    Scenario #2. – If Toews cannot or will not return to the Blackhawks for any reason, the Blackhawks will not want to waste an exemption and need to work out a deal to have him waive his NMC.

    All players with no movement clauses at the time of the draft, and who decline to waive those clauses, must be protected and will be counted toward their team’s applicable protection limits.

    As noble and transparent as Bowman is, he will be forced to do something by July21st.

  • June 11, 2021 at 12:16 pm
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    Scenario #3 – Toews condition was temporary and he will be coming back for the 2021-22 season and remains on the protected list for the expansion draft.

    Scenario #4 – Towes cannot or will not return and Bowman does nothing causing the Blackhawks to protect him instead of someone who is worth protecting.

  • June 11, 2021 at 12:16 pm
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    WIJG, maybe Bowman just protects Toews and nothing changes on his updates. What we have been told is when Toews is ready to talk publicly about it he will, until then status quo basically and he is expected to play next year.

  • June 11, 2021 at 12:17 pm
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    Didn’t see your 2nd post Wijg before i posted.

  • June 11, 2021 at 6:12 pm
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    Tim, thats cool. I just like Tazer and have his back even if he does something wrong hes still my boy so thats why/overall no matter what he does or doesnt.

    Now for all other players sure I want what your saying and needs to be team.

    Has Tazer ever not been a team player/who cares if he doesnt like the coach him and Dunks and others know this is not the caoch to win with again. So even though I donot want anyone being baby about things to me dynasty players like these are above coaches that are not earned history of longtime in league like Q.

    Hard for me to say it without sounding like a jack. When we get the coaches that are going to win with again and have a good team system like BOS VEG ISL then sure every player needs to be on board with coaches and team.

    Who knows but could be same for Crwo Seabs Shaw and Tazer not just him. They were all banged up or sickness? and 88 2 were the only ones who were healthy.

  • June 11, 2021 at 7:44 pm
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    Wired to believe that only 1 of 17 highest caphits players are in 2nd round.

    Maybe its more that of the highest 17 caphit players in league were on top 5 or maybe top 10 teams before and there teams are not top 5/10 anymore. but to get those capihits those teams were top 5/10 teams and have won how many cups.

    Without looking it up only EDM seems to be not top 5/10 team that has high caphit player.

    CHI LA PIT have a lot of those 17 highest caphit players/? and have 8 Cups in last 12 yrs.

    So wondering of the 17 highest how many were not ever on a top 5/10 team. prob not many.

  • June 11, 2021 at 8:07 pm
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    Only players not on a top 5 or 10 team now or before is

    Price
    Eichel
    Seguin
    Benn

    Thats saying DAL is not or wasnt a top 0 team last two yrs.

    TB does have two players tied for 15th highest caphits/sure none in higest 14 caphits.

    So was wondering and obly those four/if you donot count DAL as a top 10 team last two yrs are not/wernt on top teams in last 10 yrs.

  • June 11, 2021 at 8:11 pm
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    Not arguing or going agasint what your saying about team roster/game/caphits. Just that it seemed like more where on top teams in last 10 yrs/maybe not going foward or in this flat lander salary corona cap.

    So yes only 7 of the 19 highest caphit players are on/were on top 5 or top 10 teams in last 12 yrs.

    Those 7 players won 9 of the last 12 Cups.

  • June 11, 2021 at 8:13 pm
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    Actually go and add Backstrom and that 8 of 21 highest caphits being on top teams

    and

    Then thats 10 of last 12 Cups a 21 higest caphit player won the Cup.

  • June 11, 2021 at 10:51 pm
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    It could be just me but I think this year is a good year to get a nice piece for the future. It is all done by Shaw’s and Seab”s $$. We enter the season at the cap then we get or sign $12mil of talent. At the end of the year we can keep $5mil of it for the future. The other $7 mil we move like we did with Janmsrk and Soderberg and get assets in return.

    We can take on expiring contracts and assets at TDL and keep what works out. We can be that third team to facilitate a trade for assets. Hopefully a good UFA or RFA holds out (or we tell him to hold out) so we can sign him after the season starts. I’ll put some names and scenarios together that I would like.

  • June 12, 2021 at 6:29 am
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    If its the type if player we need like Tim/others talk about then yes we need to add more elites and other good players.

    Its doesnt make a difference when we add them/people say its a waste right now theres no miracle players that are going to win us a Cup next yr.

    Thats not the point/we have to add two top pair Defensmen and a bunch of hardnose players to go with the skill to win.

    So add them at anytime we can during the next 3 yrs for when were good again.

  • June 12, 2021 at 7:15 am
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    With the year Lankinen had and signing of Soderblom, plus maybe one of other stays around the goaltending may not be a finished product but should continue be more competitive than last. A healthy Toews, Nylander and Dach with Reichel and Borgstrom signings and another year for younger hopefuls will definitely make the forward group more competitive. The big thing is can the young defensemen take the blueline to a more competitive level. All of them have shown they csn be nhl players, questions on what their limitations are remain to be answered.

  • June 12, 2021 at 7:15 am
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    Roman, we should do that add as many picks and players that can turn into picks or players-young.

    Keep assmebling 50 man roster until we get the best 23man possibale.

    Have to get plenty of hardnose players/you can see what it takes to win.

    Skill and hardnose players not only one of those.

  • June 12, 2021 at 9:56 am
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    When you don’t have a #1 goalie to cover up mistakes by turnover Dmen and you pay players over $10 who ain’t playing, you’re gunna lose all day… Sports is all about Good Young players… simple simon says… lol.

  • June 12, 2021 at 11:06 am
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    BR looking at teams like Leafs, Oilers, Avs and Devils, Simon also says just flipping the good young switch is nowhere near enough. It’s a process that takes time.

  • June 12, 2021 at 8:13 pm
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    Their goalies Rot & they aint paying over $20 in players who aint playing… Simon rules

  • June 12, 2021 at 8:15 pm
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    $20 MILLION

  • June 13, 2021 at 6:51 am
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    2021-22 Predictions:

    1. Pat Foley announces his retirement sometime before the Blackhawks convention July 23rd-Jul 25th – Confidence Level = 9.5
    2. Jonathan Toews announces he will not return due to medical issues sometime before the expansion draft on July 21st – Confidence Level = 9.0
    3. The Blackhawks finish 40-35-7 (give or take) and just miss the playoffs – Confidence Level = 8.0
    4. Marc Crawford leaves to take a head coaching job elsewhere – NHL, IHL, Juniors, Darien house league, anywhere – after realizing Colliton isn’t going anywhere (literally and figuratively) – Confidence Level = 7.5
    5. In 3 years the Blackhawks will still be ‘rebuilding’ – Confidence Level = 7.0 (and ER will still be lecturing everyone to be patient – Confidence Level = 10)

  • June 13, 2021 at 7:18 am
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    WIJG, #1- I agree. The game and time has passed him by. He is gone this summer. #2- I agree. He is done. That is the reason for the silence and lack of information from both Toews and the Hawks organization. #3- I disagree on this one. Given the meatgrinder of a division that they are in and their lack of physicality,top line Centers,top 2 Defensemen,and a #1 Goalie I believe that the Hawks will finish well below the break even mark-29-40-13. #4- 50-50 on this one. I know Marc Crawford will be leaving but it won’t be for another NHL Head Coaching job. His time is also done. #5- 50-50 on this one also. I do believe that this organization will still be in a deep rebuild but I predict that Ebony will join the revolt and call for real NHL management to take over this organization.

  • June 13, 2021 at 7:24 am
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    JR, With the situation that this organization is in,anytime now would be a great time to start adding real NHL players and a real NHL Coaching staff with an edge to them that want to win and will not tolerate being pushed around and ridiculed on and off the ice. This is a mess. I still say SOFT,SOFTER,SOFTEST describe this team from the front office to the training staff.

  • June 13, 2021 at 8:01 am
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    Wijg, quite a take lol, my thoughts your take.
    No.1) Agree Foley will retire,
    No.2) Disagree for reasons we discussed before.
    No.3) With Blues, Preds, Stars, Jets all at a crossroads where there going, the Coyotes being the Coyotes and a west division devoid of a true playoff contender besides Vgk, the Blackhawks could easily finish 4th or 5th and sneak in, but agree they need to be harder team to play against.
    No.4) Agree but my reasons are coaches always looking for opportunities and Crawford likely sees himself as a head coach somewhere rather than an assistant.
    No.5) Disagree because the intention is to have a winner again with 88 and 19, a move maybe not until next summer will be made to facilitate that by making some big impact adds and development of current talent to do that and carry organization beyond them. With a pipeline to maintain the depth to support it. How well it works out well as i like to say time will tell.

  • June 13, 2021 at 8:59 am
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    Ian, I think Crawford took the position to rebuild his reputation and to wait in the wings for an opening when Colliton doesn’t pan out. I have to think that he doesn’t see Colliton leaving anytime soon and his market value won’t be getting any better.

    Besides, the Darien House League is always looking for coaches.

    As to #5 – listen for what is NOT being said by the Blackhawks. I doubt we will hear that the goal is to win a Stanley Cup in X years. They will use wiggle words like ‘be competitive’ to appease the fans (and it will work for most). They have not made the moves a team committed to winning a Cup would make (as stated in another post about the GMs and Coaches availabile and changes since 2018. You cannot be the best team unless you commit to have the best people at all positions on and off the ice. Danny Wirtz’s commitments lie elsewhere.

  • June 13, 2021 at 9:36 am
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    J.G-

    Humour is good and necessary-thanks.
    The Hawks are quite a bit from being a legit playoff team. But they have company.
    Colorado just proved how good you can be and still not win, and Chicago are way behind them-it makes me more appreciative of what the Hawks did for a 5 or 6 year stretch. So few teams get themselves in the position to win and even then it’s far from a given.
    Some advice-the world will go on (or not) win or lose. Micro managing any team while it may be fulfilling to some is just chasing your own tail. Relax and..
    Enjoy and Go Hawks.

  • June 13, 2021 at 10:33 am
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    Will I still be lecturing in 3 years? Probably but it may not be lobbying for patience because “it depends”. It depends on what happens in the interim and where the Hawks are at at that time.

    If the Hawks haven’t made significant progress in 3 years time I will have jumped off the patience train somewhere along the way. If the Hawks have gone from Point-C to Point-B and are close to Point-A then I may still thing patience and sticking to the plan is the best option. Keep in mind that becoming impatient and wanting things to change (1) doesn’t mean things will change for the better, and (2) very likely could mean even longer to get to the promised land because changing direction may require a couple steps back before starting forward again.

    Bottom line for me: if progress is being made, and inherent in the assessment of progress is a reasonable time element, then stick with the plan – else hit the reset button and reboot. Regardless what has happened since the Hawks got bounced by Nashville in the playoffs 5 years ago – the rebuild only really got started this past season. While an argument can be made it got started strategically when they were sellers at the TDL for the first time in 2020 – you can’t can’t make that level of organizational change mid-season and expect progress to be made.

    The Hawks are 56 games into the rebuild process. Over those 56 games, we were able to assess a lot of young players and get them varying amounts of experience. I thought that was the objective of Year-1, so not only am I not impatient or disappointed, I grade 2021 a successful first year of the rebuild and that’s even with it only 2/3 of a normal 82 game season.

  • June 13, 2021 at 10:44 am
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    Let’s revisit all these negative future scenarios at playoff time in 2023 only 2 years away

    If the Hawks aren’t a playoff team with potential by then I will admit my optimism was misplaced – if the Hawks are however a playoff team and trending upwards by then we’ll know which posters do not have a talent for prognostication

  • June 13, 2021 at 11:41 am
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    ER, good points.

    My concern is that I do not see a ‘plan’ or a clear strategy. If there was, I would certainly be patient.

    I think there is a lot of ‘hope’, which we all share.

    But, hope is not a strategy.

    We all hope young players will develop. We all hope that underachievers will suddenly change their mindset and play up to their potential. We all hope to get some help through the draft. We all hope Bowman makes some wise moves. We all hope Colliton will learn from experience and become a bonafide NHL coach. We all hope Toews comes back. We all hope Danny Wirtz will make the right moves at the right time. We all hope the Blackhawks will become relevant again.

    What I hope to see is a clear strategy like the one Scottie Bowman had when Rocky brought him to Chicago.

    I hope Stan is not so caught up in trying to be his own man he ignores what Scottie did and how he did it. I hope his ego doesn’t get in the way of progress.

    I hope to have a nice afternoon on my patio with my dog, an adult beverage and a fine cigar (at least I have a plan for that).

    I guess you could say the situation is not ‘hopeless’.

  • June 13, 2021 at 12:34 pm
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    The only plans that are not some level of nebulous are those that have been perfected and are repeatable, especially when human beings are part of the equation.

    When you buy something that needs assembly and comes with directions (a plan), it has a list of components necessary to complete the assembly – the unique parts, so many nuts and bolts, tools required, etc. You lay everything out and check it against the list to be sure everything is there. Laid out like that it doesn’t look anything like the finished product, but it is necessary to get it completed correctly. That is the phase the Hawks are in – seeing what parts they have and what they need. Messy? Yep. But necessary.

  • June 13, 2021 at 1:01 pm
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    To be clear, here is what a strategy looks like – offered as an example and not a necessarily a prescription:

    1. Have a clearly stated goal like ‘win a Stanley Cup in the next X years.
    2. Find a Head Coach that knows how to build and manage a Stanley Cup winning team. A Head Coach who can assemble a staff to produce top-rated special teams (see #4).
    3. Build a team from the goal forward by securing first a Vezina caliber goaltender, then finding defensemen that are capable of playing tight-checking, physical, playoff hockey and create a top-rated defense.
    4. Build 2 balanced lines (e.g. scorer, grinder, playmaker) with 2 shut down / utility lines that can forecheck, play physical, kill penalties, etc… as situations dictate.
    5. Make sure the GM and Head Coach work collaboratively to provide the Head Coach with the assets HE needs to execute HIS system.
    6. Lock in core players while simultaneously developing young players and supplementing the roster with experienced veterans (e.g Hossa, Sharp, etc…). But, don’t hang on to players too long and lose their value.

    Again, this is for example only and is surely full of holes and exceptions.

    Perhaps there really is a strategy. If there is, to me it looks this:
    1. We just need to be competitive and hope for the best. Close is good enough to sell tickets and mollify the fanbase.
    2. Find a Head Coach that can re-invent the game. Experienced coaches cost too much and are too hard to control.
    3. Dump the Vezina caliber goalies and hope the next Crow percolates up through the ranks on the cheap.
    4. Have 4 Run-and-Gun lines. Defense is over-rated in the modern game.
    5. The Head Coach will have to make do with whatever ‘bargains’ the GM can scare up.
    6. Pay players for past performance and hang on to them too long.

  • June 13, 2021 at 1:33 pm
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    My 2 cents-

    I actually think the Hawks do have excellent depth at Goalie now-
    albeit -YOUNG and not proven in NHL- Lanks, Commesso, and Soderblom

    I like one/two of them to “Hit”

    I agree on #19- probably done

    Only way Hawks will be real good in next 3 years– need to land one of 2023 studs
    Michkov or Bedard- those guys are legit- assuming no injuries in next few years.
    And develop/find/trade for some Size/grit/skill guys (Ladd/Buff/Frolik/Bickell-types)… watching “real” contenders in Playoffs– Hawks have ZERO of these guys right now. They don’t grow on trees.

    The Hawks- THINK they have stockpiled enough Young D guys- that they will develop in 2-4 years (but Still NEED for 1-2 Good sized D guys to hit/Develop)

    Only time will tell- But w/ Cap stagnant– NEED to get lucky 2023 STUD (like Kane)
    Michkov/Bedard

  • June 13, 2021 at 1:37 pm
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    JG – so your example strategy basically boils down to build a Stanley Cup winner and then manage the cap – I’m guessing if you thought of it Stan and Danny Wirtz have too but if not hopefully somebody shows them your post

    We al know what it takes to win the Cup – it’s not rocket science – but the getting there is not a straight line – ask Tampa or COL or any number of other teams who have the same strategy you laid out but haven’t won a cup or even made the finals

  • June 13, 2021 at 2:38 pm
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    Wrap – Tampa hasn’t won a Cup or made the finals?

    I don’t know what their strategy was (surely, they had one), but Tampa Bay, Boston and Pittsburgh all won Cups around the time the Blackhawks did. Yet, they remain legitimate Cup contenders and the Blackhawks are nowhere near that. Why?

    I’m sure TB, Boston and Pittsburgh had a lot on non-linear, 2 steps forward / 1 step back, periods along the way.

    Tampa: 2004 & 2019 Cup, 2015 Finalist
    Boston: 2011 Cup, 2013 7 2019 Finalist
    Pittsburgh: 2009, 2016, 2017 Cup, 2008 Finalist
    Chicago: 2010, 2013, 2015 Cup

    Besides, it was just an example.

  • June 13, 2021 at 3:25 pm
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    JG – I’m saying Tampa was supposed to win according to the plan with Hedman Stamkos and Kuch long before 2019 – that’s what I meant by not a straight line to success

    Admittedly grouping them in with COL confused my point since COL with McKinnon has not won a cup or even made it to the finals as with many other teams also following the same strategy – again not a straight line

    Tampa as you pointed out did not win a cup around the time of the Hawks cups – 2004 was a long ago and nobody on the current team was on that 2004 team

    Bruins won 1 cup in 2011 so are you saying you’d rather have only 1 cup instead of three but still be cup competitive? – I wouldn’t

    PITT has done well with 3 cups and is the best comparable to the CHI granted but not 3 cups in 6 years well – the latter 2 of those cups the direct result of Stan’s efforts (and please don’t go down the Dale Tallon road)

    Every team (including the Hawks) attempts the same strategy/formula you laid out – like I said it’s not rocket science – but the path to get there is not a straight line and there is no guarantee of success

  • June 13, 2021 at 3:27 pm
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    Citing teams that have been successful is all well and good but evaluating the rest of the league on their plans and efforts to reach elite Cup contending status needs be understood so that the Hawks efforts are judged against the entire league. I’m pretty sure most of the teams want to become elite Cup contending teams too and the fact they haven’t been any more successful than the Hawks in the last 5 years can’t be exclusively attributed to poor management. Uncertainties and variables are part of the stew and a dash or two of good luck is required. If it were as easy as follow steps 1 thru “X”, there would be 30 elite Cup contending teams instead of only a handful.

    I’m not lecturing anyone here or invalidating anyone’s opinion – but I’m pleased with how 2021 went and have a whole lot more patience with which to sit back and enjoy watching the 2021/22 season … then re-evaluate at this time next year.

  • June 13, 2021 at 3:43 pm
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    Correction- Tampa won the cup in 2020 not 2019

  • June 13, 2021 at 3:45 pm
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    Wijg do you really believe after being eliminated by Arizona in 2012 that anybody thought the Blackhawks had vezina calibur goalie who would lead them to 2 and what coulda and likely shoulda been a 3rd up in next 3 years. I don’t mean compare the teams in front of them, we all can see that at this point this team isn’t where the 2012 team was. Nobody can say how good the goaltending actually will be at this point next season.

  • June 13, 2021 at 4:05 pm
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    Ian, I don’t know how many times or ways I can say this: IT IS AN EXAMPLE! “full of holes and exceptions”

    Someone please explain to me what the Blackhawks’ stated goal is and what there strategy is to accomplish it. I am not smart enough to figure this out on my own.

  • June 13, 2021 at 4:09 pm
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    I like ER’s example better:

    The Blackhawks are like something you buy from IKEA – Swedish components, cheaply made, structurally weak and can be assembled by a complete novice. Looks nice but easily falls apart.

  • June 13, 2021 at 5:09 pm
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    Wijg i have said what i think, not that i know for sure what they are doing, but i think, Kane said it best when he basically just said, you have to trust the process i guess. You can see what they assembled as glass half full and still getting filled, or you can see it half empty with everything from Wirtz on down, Bowman his poor coaching choice and lack of any talent on the ice as draining it until it’s empty

  • June 13, 2021 at 5:38 pm
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    Obviously missed my point, which was (re)building a hockey team is NOT the same as assembling something that has perfected and repeatable directions – like some cheap crap from IKEA.

    BTW – the Swedish meatballs at IKEA aren’t very good either, at least they weren’t 40 years ago when I tried them the first and only time. Course I judge them based on the meatballs my Swedish grandmother made. so … :=)

  • June 13, 2021 at 5:46 pm
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    ER, thanks for being a good sport.

    My attempt at humor took me to Tool Time, by parodying Tim to your Wilson.

    I often amuse myself like that. Arr, arr, arr, arr.

  • June 13, 2021 at 6:51 pm
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    Islanders need 3 more ….cross fingers

  • June 13, 2021 at 7:54 pm
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    Ian, Scottie (not Stan) Bowman had a different strategy when it came to goalies. He didn’t want to invest a lot of money in goalies and would rather put that money into defensemen. It’s why he got rid of Khabibulin and Huet and made an unproven Niemi his starter.

    Goalies are weird people. Very unpredictable at best.

  • June 13, 2021 at 8:46 pm
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    Wijg exactly goalies are unpredictable, for sure. Scottie Bowman had his greatest success riding one of the better goalies ever, Ken Dryden to 5 cups and 4 straight in Montreal and took Blues to 3 straight final appearances behind Hall and Plante. Also had Hasek for at least one cup in Detroit, so wouldn’t say he didn’t put a priority on goalies though.

  • June 13, 2021 at 8:58 pm
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    Without a dynasty core and two generationals with a Hoss on the side.

    No team in the league will do what we did 5 in 7 yrs comference finals and really 4 Cups in 6 yrs. Sure 3.

    So I look at us wining again not in the first yr were good like we did in 2009 and 2010. Tied for 3rd and win Cup. I look at us like BOS or VEG or other once we get there/thats top 5 team HHNL quality deep. Its going to take 1-5 yrs to win. VEG abdd BOS and other are still trying and that was yr 4 for both of them.

    VEG gest a free by in conference finals thanks to corona.

    I am saying BOS VEG are top 5 teams and they stil havnt won yet and next yr is yr 5 for both of them.

    So I look at us/ince were back to top 5 quality like those teams to win on yr like 3 4 or 5 not 1 or 2. Not even they did 1 2 3 4. They are running out if yrs to they wont be top 5 teams anymore when they get to yr 10.

    Were not going to do nothing for next 3 yrs and then say hey were rebuilding now. We will add 3 elites in next 3 summers and have a good young wave.

    Load young wave!

  • June 14, 2021 at 1:58 am
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    WIJG, I liked that old Tim Allen show and the more recent show too – Last Man Standing.

    I’ll have you know you took me down memory lane with the mention of IKEA. It made me think of Swedish Meatballs which made get all nostalgic for all the traditional Swedish foods we would have on get togethers and especially on Christmas Eve when we would have the whole traditional Smorgasbord. Now, that’s all gone – generations passed on and now that I’m the old generation I didn’t carry it forward. My kids, in their 40’s, had the experience when my parents/their grandparents were still around – but it’s lost to my grandkids. They’ll try some Swedish Meatballs from IKEA one day and wonder what the old coot (me) was making a big deal about. Oh well … life moves on.

  • June 14, 2021 at 6:41 am
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    With new signings and forwards who finished on the Nhl roster, the Blackhawks have 20 bodies for 13 or 14 spots including Shaws caphit needing to accounted for to start season. Dach, Kurashev and Hagel are waivers exempt but will be on roster out of camp unless on ir i woukd expect. Headman and Entwistle are exempt so very possible at least one them is in Rfd. to start year. Reichel contract appears to have no european clause so he could start year there, may not be for long however, remains to be seen. Borgstrom is not a waiver exempt signing signing so he is on Nhl roster to start. Shaw could be put on season opening ltir to allow another spot on 23 man roster for their forward group if they wish. Toews not a definite to be ready might buy some time to start year for a roster spot. Seattle may take a forward in expansion draft as well, but still likely a combination of trades and waivers will probably be needed for 3 or 4 players, if not to start season then by mid season likely. Rest of the players require waivers to go down unless it’s a rehab stint.

    Soderblom does have a European clause and is under contract for 21-22 season to his Swedish team, so he looks like he won’t be starting Rfd., and Lankinen will be one goalie for sure, so decisions on Delia and Subban to be made, may try carry 3 for awhile again as insurance to start or try to sneak one through waivers or something. Blueline has alot of waivers flexibility they can use to keep who they want.

  • June 14, 2021 at 8:01 am
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    Ian – didn’t know that about Soderblom having European clause

    So either he’s shows enough to stay with the Hawks or he goes back to his Swedish team

    If he stays that does present problems for the other two goalies – the Hawks won’t carry three for very long if at all IMO so perhaps a trade for one them and waivers for the other- we’ll see how it plays out

    It would be nice if Soderblom is legit

  • June 14, 2021 at 3:25 pm
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    According to CBL hockey writer Aaron Portzline the Hawks along with Habs amd Kings are “major” players for Seth Jones

    It was mentioned that Stan wouldn’t do a trade without a long term commitment in place but Jones’s agent is the same as T and K so there is mutual respect there

    I like this news – I don’t know if the Hawks have enough to offer or if Jones would agree to extend but the fact that they’re in there pitching is encouraging

  • June 14, 2021 at 3:32 pm
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    Please no Doug Hamilton….please

  • June 14, 2021 at 5:03 pm
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    I think signing Hamilton is a bad idea, for several reason.

    First, he isn’t good defensively, so although he may end up getting paid like a #1 d-man – he isn’t a #1 d-man from the defensive perspective.

    Second, because he isn’t good defensively, he will not be a good role model / mentor to the young d-men with offensive promise because we hope they will become more than a one-dimensional d-man, like Hamilton. We don’t want our young d-men to grow up to become Hamilton – we want then to be better.

    Lastly, the timing isn’t right for a splash free agent timing. Why pay Hamilton for 3 or 4 years then the Hawks won’t be contenders – better to make that splash free agent signing when the Hawks are closer to competing for the Cup.

  • June 14, 2021 at 6:34 pm
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    I agree M Reda, ER. Absolutely noooooo…… to Hamilton

  • June 14, 2021 at 8:04 pm
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    ER, that reminds me of Hammer talking/saying meat….balls.

    Once you ve had the good stuff most other is like bad coffee. You try to be polite until you can find a place to spit it out. Some foods are ok/decent and you try not to think about how righteous it is if you have the good stuff.

    I hear/see NY people uf here in the north talk and say ahh when the eat NY style pizza like its. I think man these people have no clue what there missing wiht Malnatis.

    Captains reserve.

  • June 14, 2021 at 9:53 pm
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    Would say MTL is doing well in playoffs and even in playoffs only bcause of the all canadian corona divisions. Nothing agasin tthem. Interesting the teams are bottom 10 teams for Jones. Why would Jones want to play for bottom 10 teams because they are up and coming young waves of good players in a few yrs.

    Bring in one stud ufa or trade then another/others will follow. Why would Jones want to play for Blackhawks. We get one then others will want to come here.

    Got to have a good young wave to attract the top elites in ufa.

  • June 14, 2021 at 11:15 pm
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    Regarding which forwards the Hawks are going to protect, what is the criteria that is used in coming up with these lists? I read the piece on the Athletic by Mark Lazerus and I have a hard time understanding the rationale of keeping Hagel over Gaudette.

    For me it is as simple as I think that Hagel is not going to make an impact on a playoff team above the fourth line, maybe third line. If Gaudette has a chance to have an impave greater than that, than isn’t he the one you protect?

    I see Hagel in a similar light to guys like Kampf and Hinostroza in that they play bigger roles on bad teams, but would play a much more limited role on a talented team. With Gaudette I don’t know that he is that limited.

    I guess the problem I am having here is that I don’t “know” who has the higher potential ceiling between Hagel and Gaudette, but I feel more certain that Hagel’s ceiling will be bottom six, likely bottom four. With Gaudette, I think his floor is no worse than that, but his ceiling is potentially much higher. For a team starving for talent a potential middle six ceiling has to be more valuable than a bottom six ceiling, right?

    Anyway, I don’t think the decision of Hagel or Gaudette is going to haunt this team one way or another. I guess I am trying to figure out how much of my opinion on Gaudette is simply wishful thinking because I haven’t seen enough of his limitations yet.

  • June 15, 2021 at 6:25 am
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    Hagel was the best player on the team game in and game out this year with DeBrincat a close second. Gaudette is a huge question mark who needs to remain healthy for a period of time before he can be assessed. Hagel is not a 4th line forward. Don’t know what to say about the off base previous assessment of his play and his future.

  • June 15, 2021 at 6:30 am
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    I would definitely rather see Seth Jones find his way here ahead of Hamilton. Hamilton likes to play offense and shoot the puck. He is lazy and lethargic on defense. A big NO to considering him at all. Once he leaves the Canes he will be exposed very quickly as he won’t be playing with those top 3 D Men that they role out there to cover for him.

  • June 15, 2021 at 6:38 am
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    Miro, Hagel can play a Shaw type role, chip in 15 goals a year and play on any line when needed for injury or as a spark without hurting you. You raise a good point on Gaudette too, obviously Canucks not in a playoff position moving him for Highmore seems to say they felt it was time to move on from him. Blackhawks are looking for a right shot Center, with Carpenter, Johnson and Entwistle all considered for that role, Gaudette could offer a more offensive option with less limitations in that role. I wondered too if he was acquired as somebody to potentially protect as well and wouldn’t be surprised if both are protected and Strome is moved or left unprotected.

  • June 15, 2021 at 7:26 am
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    Gotta get involved in this one-totally agree Hagel over Gaudette, and Hagel was the biggest surprise last year. A keeper, and a very valuable MIDDLE six player.
    But saying Hagel had a better year than Debrincat is just another in the longline of people underestimating 12. Debrincat was faster, better, tougher, smarter and more driven than the year he had 40 goals (40 goals!)–and as a 5′ 7″ player in the NHL.

  • June 15, 2021 at 8:10 am
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    Likely fourth line I meant, not “likely bottom four.”

  • June 15, 2021 at 10:07 am
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    The potential with Gaudette is driven by the fact he has just got his stomach issues under control and can now put on weight and hopefully will be a new player in September although we don’t know exactly if that’ll translate on the ice

    If I’m Seattle he would be very tantalizing if left unprotected but unless Strome or Borgstrom is left unprotected I don’t see it happening and I see Seattle taking either Gaudette Or Stillman unless Stan works out a side deal for Seattle to take CDH or someone else – Kampf?

    Other than a side deal Gaudette’s best chance of being protected would be a Strome trade – Strome’s stock is low however so I don’t see him moving until possibly TDL 22

  • June 15, 2021 at 10:13 am
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    Ben Pope in CST is advocating for the Hawks to pursue Hamilton over Jones based on their respective regular seasons where Jones play declined somewhat and Hamilton had good offensive numbers but I do not agree at all

    I didn’t watch every CAR playoff game but did watch a number and Hamilton is a defensive liability especially in the playoffs – not what the Hawks should be spending their cash on

    Last time I saw Jones in the playoffs (bubble last year) he was a beast at both ends of the ice – if this year’s first and a second (Hawks have two seconds) plus Ian Mitchell gets it done with Jones signing an extension for $8 mil AAV I’m all over it

  • June 15, 2021 at 10:21 am
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    Gaudette v Hagel? Hmmm … interesting. I agree Gaudette has a higher ceiling but I doubt he has more heart and hussle than Hagel. The biggest unknown is whether or not the diagnosis and subsequent remedy of Gaudette’s eating disorder will make a significant difference to propel him to more than Vancouver judged him to be – and just how much more. He has a little more size than Hagel and he has the hands and offensive skills to be at least a middle-6 guy but we haven’t seen enough of him to judge the size of his heart and his level of consistency.

    We know what we have in Hagel, and it’s very good for a bottom-6 role. We don’t yet know what we have in Gaudette – maybe very good or maybe not so much.

  • June 15, 2021 at 11:54 am
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    miro, ian, noonan, wrap, er

    re: hagel, gaudette, strome

    every skater on the ice is important be it a top six, middle six, or bottom six guy. 1c or 4 rw. guys like frolik, kruger, boland and many others from the cup winners and the 2013-2014 team. when you send a guy over the boards who is better than the guy he will compete against it’s a win.

    hagel – he will be an excellent all around player no matter where he plays and likely give the hawks an edge on his opponent. if he finds a way to be a 15-20 goal scorer and put up 45 points that likely will be on the third line. if less scoring then the fourth line. either way he is going to be a very hard guy to play against.
    gaudette – as has been mentioned there is no way to predict where he will end up. if he puts on weight and can maintain it perhaps a solid second liner.
    strome – i don’t like him anywhere. does not have the heart or physicality, the defensive ability, or the ability at the dot to compete as a top six center. i like a boland type guy at 3c and strome certainly isn’t that. forget 4c. he isn’t that guy either. he is 24 and still can’t put together ten solid efforts in a row. with everything to play for and basically working on a bridge contract he was still lazy and soft this year.

    i don’t know the rules for protecting players for seattle’s draft and don’t want to spend time checking them out, but if the hawks can protect only two of the above three i am protecting hagel for every reason, gaudette for the potential, and exposing strome for every reason.

    and trading strome. athough i agree his trade value is not all that right now i would not be caught up in that. if they keep him to improve that value then he has to play and that means taking up 17-18 minutes a game from a prospect/prospects who would gain experience with those minutes over eighty two games. this guy is twenty four years old. not expecting an awakening to a fifty point, plus twelve, 52% at the dot year from him. the team is going nowhere next year in what will be the second of what should be the fourth year of the rebuild. does anyone really believe strome will be an important part of this team in 3/4 years?

  • June 15, 2021 at 1:13 pm
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    Maybe Strome gets included in a package to CBL that brings back Jones

    One can dream…

  • June 15, 2021 at 2:11 pm
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    wrap

    wrap

    great start to the trade. if that and only one first round pick is in the mix that would be great. but no de brincat, kubalik, or dach. i would have no trouble with a first, strome, boqvist, and whatever rounds that out.

  • June 15, 2021 at 2:35 pm
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    Wrap – Ben Pope doesn’t know a Loonie from a Toonie.

    His post game interviews sound like Chris Farley interviewing Paul McCartney on SNL.

    Beware, Pope writes what the Blackhawks feed him.

  • June 15, 2021 at 3:25 pm
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    JG – haven’t seen Pope’s post games but that’s a great image

  • June 15, 2021 at 3:27 pm
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    A First a second, Mitchell or Boquist plus Strome for Jones and a third

    Done

  • June 15, 2021 at 3:51 pm
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    wrap

    done deal.

    in addition i am also passing on signing zadorov. a guy in a contract year who also disappears ala strome. he only had as many hits as he did because no one is scared of being hit by him. if his hits left players spayed on the ice in his wake he would have less hits and our goalies would be facing less dangerous shots.

  • June 15, 2021 at 3:52 pm
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    that would be “splayed on the ice,” not sprayed.

  • June 15, 2021 at 4:09 pm
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    Hawks sign Jakub Pour from Czech…today ..2 years deal

  • June 15, 2021 at 4:14 pm
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    1.93 meter 95 kilos….

  • June 15, 2021 at 5:04 pm
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    Why not take a shot at Anthony DeAngelo?
    He could turn out to be the best defenseman on the team.
    If he doesn’t work out it doesn’t cost an arm and a leg.

  • June 15, 2021 at 5:20 pm
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    Hawks 29 – I’m almost certainly in the minority but I thought Zadorov used his body well and don’t tell Hornquist that his hits don’t hurt – he missed several games after Z clocked him

    Where Z gets in trouble is with the puck on his stick but playing defense and separating players from the puck with his body he does quite well

    I would bring him back as long as the contract is not much of a raise from his $3.2

    The problem is if you protect him 50/50 chance you lose Stillman in expansion draft

  • June 15, 2021 at 6:20 pm
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    wrap

    how many hornquist hits were there through the season in comparison to hits opponents skated through in comparison to games without hits? you never know if zadorov the dman or zadorov the invisible would show up. can’t have that inconsistency on the backline. or anywhere else. this was a contract year. would you expect better consistency with a three year contract in his back pocket?

  • June 15, 2021 at 7:28 pm
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    I didnt see every period. From what I read here I say keep both Hagel Gaudette and any other thats good and plays the style we need a whole bunch more of.

    Why do we need to pick one of two of these kind of players.

    Lets trade 17 92 others who are not the hardbose kind we need.

    Need a variety and its seems were like at 20 80 in wrong way. Get to 50 50 or whatever is the right balance we want.

  • June 15, 2021 at 7:29 pm
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    Wrap, if you say it it can happen.

  • June 16, 2021 at 8:10 am
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    Jones would be a great addition to the team……but at what cost? Hamilton is weak on D, and that’s where the Hawks need the most help. And if I never hear Pierre say “Dougie” again, I would be ok with that.

  • June 16, 2021 at 8:24 am
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    Trading for a “superstar” is always risky business. How many assets are you willing to give up for a player like Jones. Next year is the last on his team friendly contract. If he pans out he will rightfully want more $$$.

    I can not express strong enough for my dislike of Hamilton. Defensively soft, particularly for a guy his size. Please save your money

  • June 16, 2021 at 8:43 am
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    Alex Martinez is also UFA – if the Hawks are going to try to sign a UFA D man I’d go after him on a 3 year deal rather than Hamilton

    Cheaper less term better defensively Cup winner playoff performer and contributes offensively as well particularly with a very good shot

  • June 16, 2021 at 9:10 am
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    About Hagel
    My view is that the Hawks should sign him for 3-4 years minimum and offer him a nice contract average 2.5 to 3 millions $ / year
    After all he was definitely the rookie of the year for the Hawks .and we all know that he will not sit on his contract after signing,he will probably be more motivated and show the Hawks they did a good move.

  • June 16, 2021 at 9:20 am
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    Picking up guys like Hamilton or Jones at this point of the so called rebuild would be completely silly unless the goal is not to win the cup but rather to remain mediocre for a longer period of time.

    Do Hawks fans really believe picking up either or for that matter both of these high priced defencemen would make the hawks a Stanley Cup contender?

  • June 16, 2021 at 10:21 am
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    It’s worth remembering at this point that the Blackhawks can’t spend the Seabrook/Shaw cap space until the league year begins because LTIR doesn’t kick in until the season opens officially. So we’re still working under the cap until Opening Day.

    That said, to Stape’s question: “Do Hawks fans really believe picking up either [Seth Jones or Dougie Hamilton] or for that matter both of these high priced defencemen would make the Hawks a Stanley Cup contender?” The answer to that is, depending on the price and trickle-down impact on the roster, yes. The Blackhawks have a really nice collection of talented young defensemen. They need someone to take the mantle of #1 from Keith and I don’t see anyone in-house who’s going to do it soon enough. Either of those guys is an enormous upgrade.

  • June 16, 2021 at 5:14 pm
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    Its not that one players or two will make us top 3 roster. It will though when young wave is ready and starting there prime yrs and by then weve added some good players from ufa trade summer.

    In the next 3 yrs whenever we need to add two Defensemen studs and others and get more hardnose players throughout the lineup so we can beat the top ‘playoff’ teams not the top ‘regular 82 game’ teams.

  • June 16, 2021 at 5:16 pm
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    I would rather get another or two top 3 or 5 draft players then a top 8-12 and add the top pair Defensemen and other close to when were ready. Thats what I am talking about.

    Might have to add the Defensemen when they are available and not when its most ideal age wise.

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