Blackhawks Top Canucks In OT, Extend Win Streak

It feels like a long time ago that the Blackhawks were in dead last place in the Western Conference, looking up with little hope.

They’ll go to bed on Thursday night two points out of a wild card spot. And it appears they’ve found the swagger that made them scary to play against earlier in this decade.

When we look back at the 2018-19 season, the turning point may ultimately be Stan Bowman trading Nick Schmaltz to Arizona for Dylan Strome and Brendan Perlini.

Strome has been absolutely marvelous since arriving in Chicago, and added another terrific performance to his resume on Thursday night. He found Alex DeBrincat on the power play 18 minutes into the game to get Chicago on the board.

Still on the advantage, Brandon Saad put Chicago up two only 59 seconds later.

The Canucks out-shot the Hawks 14-13 and carried a lot of the action early, but two late penalties only 1:23 apart opened the door for the red-hot Chicago power play to score twice.

Unfortunately, Vancouver continued to attack and their efforts were rewarded twice in the first five minutes of the second period. Alex Biega and Josh Leivo scored to tie the game and the Hawks needed to recapture some momentum.

Thankfully Strome and DeBrincat weren’t done for the night.

DeBrincat’s second goal of the night is his 28th of the season, a new career-high for the second-year forward. The no-look pass by Strome was a reminder that these two put up huge numbers in juniors together and have picked up that magic since Strome came to Chicago.

Vancouver out-shot the Hawks 14-9 in the second period but Chicago took a 3-2 lead to the room.

The Canucks continued to out-shoot the Blackhawks in the third period, but Collin Delia held up. When Perlini took an awful high sticking penalty with 3:36 left in a one-goal game the inevitable happened. Elias Pettersson exploded up the ice and scored his 25th of the year to tie the game.

So we headed to overtime.

It took three minutes of free hockey for the fans to get sent home happy, but it was once again Strome setting things up. For the third time in the game Strome was credited with an assist as Jonathan Toews went strong to the net and flipped home the game-winning goal.

Kane extended his personal point streak to 13 games with an assist on the first goal of the night from DeBrincat.

Toews’ 24th goal of the year ended a game in which he won 16 of 25 faceoffs and was credited with one hit and two takeaways with four shots on net.

DeBrincat and Drake Cagguila led Chicago with five shots on net each. Slater Koekkoek led the Hawks with four hits.

207 thoughts on “Blackhawks Top Canucks In OT, Extend Win Streak

  • February 7, 2019 at 10:47 pm

    These damn Hawks are going to drag me into liking that they’re going to make the playoffs. I still don’t want Stan to buy at the TDL and if he was going to sell before this 6-game winning streak then I hope he is still going to sell. This is fun. They’re either going to make the playoffs or they’re not so I may as well enjoy the ride … and I am.

  • February 7, 2019 at 10:51 pm

    I’m enjoying this too, ER. I really like the compete level. There are mistakes made but this team has made significant strides during the last couple of months. A number of big games ahead.

  • February 7, 2019 at 10:51 pm

    Father time.

    3rd line center.

    My ass.

    Fucking Cannucks.

  • February 7, 2019 at 10:57 pm

    Nothing against Schmaltz but Strome just seems to fill a need better. Perlini on the other hand is running out of time.

    OMG having a potent PP makes a world of difference.

    We should still be sellers, but this winning streak should drive up the asking price. I’m happy to pick up a piece but as ER said, only if that piece is part of the future.

  • February 7, 2019 at 11:03 pm

    The good news is Forsling played less than 13 minutes; the bad news is that he actually dressed and played. Gustafsson has to play with someone responsible and isn’t a sissy; that’s not Forsling. How much longer will Rundblad Jr. continue to play?

    Delia outstanding, some highlight reel saves.

  • February 7, 2019 at 11:18 pm

    A team that relies on the powerplay in the regular season is fool’s gold. However a team with a hot powerplay in the playoffs can go far.

  • February 7, 2019 at 11:19 pm

    Disclaimer: statistics aren’t the end all be all. Good, now that I got that out of the way …

    The Hawks played their 55th game tonight which is the 2/3 mark. So, with 1/3 of the season remaining look at the Hawks top scorers.

    In 2017/18, Kane had 27 goals and 76 points – this season 32 goals and 79 points

    In 2017/18, DeBrincat had 28 goals and 52 points – this season 28 goals and 50 points

    In 2017.18, Toews had 20 goals and 52 points – this season 24 goals and 54 points

    In 2017/18, Saad had 18 goals and 35 points – this season 18 goals and 32 points

    Those 4 guys have essentially matched or eclipsed last years scoring totals with still 1/3 of the season to play.

  • February 7, 2019 at 11:22 pm

    Agree Iceman – the Forsling/Gus pair was atrocious

    Again KK was pretty good so sit Forsling and bring Dahlstrom back in

    Also agree that Stan shouldn’t change the plan because of the winning streak – but most likely the only players moving out will be Kruger and maybe Forsling and if there’s a good offer for AA (who should have scored on that wide open net – I don’t care that the puck was not sitting flat – if he doesn’t panic he would have been able to control the puck) take it

    Maybe Gus goes although I doubt it

  • February 7, 2019 at 11:27 pm

    I like Colliton’s post game comments because he knows that CHI really did not pay well (VAN was the better team on the night) but still managed to win – that’s how you get on a long winning streak

    They’ll be better next game – making the playoffs would be the ideal scenario at this point IMO but even playing meaningful games and to be in the hunt is good experience for this team

    Strome’s hockey IQ is in another universe compared to Schmaltz – who wants to complain about his skating now?

  • February 7, 2019 at 11:28 pm

    Offensively, I am really pleased with what I’m seeing. I hope someone needs a Forsling. He’s just awful. Koekkoek had another solid game. I still hold out hope for Perlini. Anisimov missing the wide open net…. The hawks should sell some players and get some more youth…if possible. Troy Murray made a great observation. John Hayden is getting more comfortable and playing better the more he plays.
    They need to be focused for 60 minutes and get the PK fixed. I have hope…which I haven’t had for the last season and a half.

  • February 7, 2019 at 11:46 pm

    A couple of things – I agree with Ebonyraptor, “don’t want Stan to buy at the TDL” – under NO circumstances, in fact. If they’re playing well, why feel the need to add anyone? (…”because everybody does it?”, “because they have the cap space to spend/waste”?) And, I really hope we’ve heard the LAST of the bring back Panarin bullshit. The Hawks have DeBrincat (…so, stfu, already!).

    Go Hawks. (Honestly, I feel this is a buildup to disappointment. I would rather get a top five draft pick than lose in the first round, or worse, just miss the wild card.)

  • February 7, 2019 at 11:57 pm

    Even if we win 8 in a row. We could still lose a few and be right there for a top 6 pick. Were also a couple games behind the 7 and 8 seed.

    Everytime we won a bunch of games or lost a bunch of games we did the other for a few after, so. Theres no disappointment because weve known the whole time this is a transition yr. Plus we got a top 5 player at pick 8 last draft. In terms of getting a top 6 pick or making playoffs, the only thing that would suck is get a 10-15 pick.

    were deep in 2yrs.

  • February 8, 2019 at 12:40 am

    Manning for Caggilua
    Ruuta for KoKo

    Strome is a PP God!

    Yeah Bowman sucks.

  • February 8, 2019 at 12:48 am

    Completely agree about fixing the PK @edman. I was looking at the Hawks pk over the past 11 years. The 3 best rated pk were the Cup winning teams. The next two were the teams the lost in the conference finals. It’s funny how well pk success correlates with playoff success, at least on the last 11 Hawks teams….

  • February 8, 2019 at 1:09 am

    It’s kind of frightening to think that Stromes ceiling could be higher. I love how well he can accept a pass and get control of the puck. He may not “play fast” but he can handle the puck in traffic extremely well.

  • February 8, 2019 at 1:48 am

    Still stay the course and sell at the trading line. This winning streak is nice for the fans and more importantly for 2,7,19,88 because they need to stay motivated for nexrt season. Thus, trade AA, Kruger, Forsling, Ward, Kunitz, and hope to get drafts picks and/or prospects that are younger, faster and bigger.

  • February 8, 2019 at 2:45 am

    Were trading some guys at deadline and adding some high end ufas in summer no matter what happens record wise.

  • February 8, 2019 at 5:07 am

    Nobody mentioned Delia. He was outstanding. It’s not only how many pucks u stop but when u stop. Reminded me of Craw last night. Trade Gus? Are u out of you’re mind. Yes mistakes galore. But he’s an offensive force on the ice. One of the top in the entire NHL His D should get better with time at his age. He and Strome are integral parts of this team now and in the future. At this point there’s no reason to break up this team. The players like Kruger, Kunitz, AA, will get u nothing. Who would u trade, Saad? Ridiculous. I also hope Bowman has learned his lesson with past horrible deals like the Danault deal. Meanwhile I’m shocked how he got Cagguila and Koo for shit. So if he pulls off another trade like those for a Forsling, Kunitz, or AA I’m in. Also don’t underestimate Kruger’s value for this team. Another name to mention is Kahun. This kid is darn fast, good with puck and is only getting better. First year in North America! Good find.

  • February 8, 2019 at 5:36 am

    @ Hull65

    “Thus, trade AA, Kruger, Forsling, Ward, Kunitz”

    Public service announcement about hockey realities:

    AA has a partial NTC which goes away in July.

    Ward and Kunitz have NMC’s.

    Again, easy on a message board to spout “trade this guy, trade that guy”.

    Knowing the realities helps … no matter which language you speak.

  • February 8, 2019 at 5:41 am

    Forsling has a sub par game = trade him, trade him!

    Unfortunately young players will have ups and downs. Those of you clamoring for Boqvist, Mitchell etc. for full time roles next season may wish to keep this in mind.

    Great interview with McDonough late yesterday in Athletic.

  • February 8, 2019 at 5:55 am

    I also think not to be a buyer. Want to know does anybody know if the Hawks have any players rights that could be late season help, either college, Europe, or juniors? Is that realistic? I am not too confident Rockford has anybody to improve us THIS year, maybe Sikura.

  • February 8, 2019 at 5:58 am

    I could see one of Mitchell or Beaudin going in a summer trade – they’ve got lots of D coming and if you could get Kapanen from TOR or some similar good young FW (maybe Jonsson – also TOR) that’s the kind of trade I think the Hawks do

  • February 8, 2019 at 6:22 am

    First of all- great win! Game was fun to watch and JT just “willed” the win in OT. Delia was a difference maker. PP 1000% better….
    The bad- thank God, Canucks are worse at trying to clear the puck out of their own end than the Hawks.
    The ugly- AA won’t get us a bag of frozen pucks at trade deadline. Stone hands, put 2 guys offside with poor play at blue line and seems totally lost out there? Perlini- be lucky to get a roll of ‘Renfrew’ stick tape for him- selfish, stupid high-sticking penalty in last 5 mins- REALLY?! But the part that infuriated me was when Delia, being run in the blue paint, scrum erupts, Perlini “backs” away from defending Delia- useless AND a coward!!
    Bottom line- fun being a fan these last 2 weeks-they are showing real heart!

  • February 8, 2019 at 6:47 am

    The Hawks have finally bought into Colliton’s system and are getting positive results. Everyone is on the same page.

    Delia is very composed for a rookie.

    Perlini’s penalty towards the end of the third period almost cost them 2 points.

    Forsling had a bad game.

    Toews OT goal was awesome.

    It’s always a good sign when you get out-played and still win.

    Let’s keep this train rolling.

    GO HAWKS….

  • February 8, 2019 at 6:50 am

    Strome D-Cat chemistry is fun to watch-Debrincat just gave a little stick tap to remind Strome he was is his “house’ and then the pass.
    I was listening to the radio feed of the Erie-Ranger game a few days ago and the media guy said that Strome and Debrincat are really close-but almost like an old married couple with how they get on each other’s case and argue. The two went out with McDavid for supper, after the Oilers’ game.

  • February 8, 2019 at 6:54 am

    The Toews OT goal was beautiful! If the Hawks haven’t won the Strome/Scmaltz trade, then they are at least winning it. I hope they don’t buy at the deadline because this team could make the Playoffs, but win a Cup? Likely not.

  • February 8, 2019 at 6:56 am

    Recliner that was Scotty Bowmans approach when he was winning cups regularly, gimme a hot goalie and a hot pp and i like my chances.
    Gotta wonder when Bowman pursued Justin Faulk last summer if he got the deal done with no Saad how much impact that would’ve had this season.
    Great goal by the captain on ot, PP getting it done.
    Bill anybody in Ncaa or Chl probably not be able to play many regular season games this year, be playoffs before they could be available for most part. Kubalik would be available early to mid March if they chose to bring him over, could possibly sign Soderlund or Nordgren but that be a longshot for this season likely. Highmore could be bottom 6 player from Rockford who might help, Row A i believe said he may be back off ir soon.

  • February 8, 2019 at 7:15 am

    I like Wraps suggestion that we flip a blue chip Dman for a young fast NHL ready forward or two. Quick way to address a need. So many bodies on the back end.

    I like AA. Brutal whiff on Kahun’s pass but he has good wheels for a big man and made some slick plays. Is he worth 4.5M? Right now no. If he had Panarin back would he be?

    Sellers at trade deadline. Stay the course and enjoy the ride.

  • February 8, 2019 at 7:22 am

    Row A – while I agree for the most part that Hull is a moron, I will hit the pause button on the idea that a NTC or NMC means the player isn’t going anywhere. Brian Campbell had one and had “the worst contract in the league” and they found a way to trade him. It’s just about moving the player to a situation that works for him and his family. It’s good to know the players have some leverage in a trade discussion, but those clauses in no way mean they have to stay here.

  • February 8, 2019 at 7:25 am

    re: “flip a blue chip Dman for a young fast NHL ready forward” – or, you include Forsling (a nice player) in a deal to get Anisimov out of here for anything that might help down the stretch and/or a controlled asset/draft pick.

  • February 8, 2019 at 7:34 am

    KooKoo– another strong game w/ very few errors (if any)… I really tried watching him as much as possible to see “potential flaws”… I really like what i am seeing thus far… seems to be clone of Dahlstrom in size w/ more snarl… and falls down less than Dahlstrom… I also have liked Dahlstrom- but every now and then – seems to be caught in a tough spot- where physically he stumbles- because he is “surprised” by how fast or sharp the Offensive skater is cutting

    Kahun looking good again

    Kruger- had nice game

    Caggs- looking to be perfect fit – so far… puck hound

    Really like How Hawks are exiting their own end with some pace… seemed to be Missing under Q… or perhaps the new player additions/subtractions are part of that… of course Hawks are in a “soft spot” part of schedule- might all be “fool’s gold”

  • February 8, 2019 at 8:06 am

    Highlights from McDonough’s interview with the Athletic yesterday:

    1. On whether he would ever go ballistic on players like Lites in Dallas did:

    Every franchise is different, but I think the best route is to keep that stuff in house.

    2. Do you feel better about things vs. four or five weeks ago?

    Yes but I recognize we’re going to have ups and downs. I learned a lot about our coaching and mgmt staff. We rode it out. There was no finger pointing, there were no alarmists. We sensed things could get worse before they got better – they did. Going forward, this is going to be all about the process. I am very proud of Jeremy Colliton, replacing a legend. Very optimistic for our future with JC behind the bench.

    3. Many people were critical of you proclaiming this was a playoff team when Colliton was hired. Do you feel a bit vindicated now that the team is closer?

    There’s no vindication. I believed in our players. But there’s been a lot of roster turnover, a coaching change. Crawford has not played much. But the expectations for us will always be to reach the playoffs.

    4. Do you wish the coaching change was made in the summer?

    We hadn’t reached that point yet. I was disappointed in last year but in fairness to Q we didn’t feel it was the right time. After the year started we felt a sameness creep in so we made the change and feel we’re going in the right direction.

    5. The next 5-6 months are crucial for a lot of reasons. Is Stan Bowman still your guy, is his job safe?

    Absolutely. Absolutely, I am very proud of Stan. Picking up Caggiula, Strome & Perlini were very very good trades. It was tough to see guys leave, especially Schmaltz. Stan is a very very hard worker and very diligent, he is never outworked by other GM’s. He has great relationships with the other GM’s and he is working the phones every day to make this team better. He understands we need to be competitive but that we are not going to mortgage the future. This means a lot to him and he’s got a very good sense for it.

    6. Regarding the organizational structure. Does Bowman have total control over player personnel decisions or is it more of a group process?

    Stan is smart enough to get the opinions of his group then he makes the final decision. He keeps me in the loop and we go with his feel and recommendations. I takes him a while to distill things, there is no knee jerk reactions with Stan, he is not impulsive at all. He has never come in and said we need to do this today by 5 pm or it falls apart. Never has happened.

    7. I hear his level of patience sometimes drives other GM’s nuts.

    I would imagine it does. But he will never be forced into a decision or forced into a corner by an agent. I have a lot of respect for his decision making. You’re not going to get every one right – you’re just not. I believe he’s going to be the architect for our future.

    8. Did you feel that way a few months ago when things were bleak? Did you have your doubts at any point?

    No. I have faith in Stan. He has been GM for 10 years and I know exactly how he operates. His work ethic and desire and commitment to make this an elite gold star franchise is second to none. We do not have change-itis here. Continuity is important but we don’t have continuity just for the sake of keeping people together. It’s about results. There have been ups and downs and disappointments. But you have to stay positive. Rocky has owned the franchise for 12 years and during that time after we made our initial changes we’ve had one GM and two coaches. I think continuity is very very important.

    9. Is it a worst case scenario if you finish in say 9th or 10th place? Where you don’t make the playoffs and don’t get that top five draft pick?

    No I don’t call it a worst case scenario. We try to win every night and let the chips fall where they fall. There’s nothing we can do about it.

    10. What about tanking? You could tank …

    We could but I guarantee you we are not going to. I know Stan is burning up the phone lines and there is a lot of interest out there and he has to do what’s best in the long run for the Blackhawks.

    Note: I condensed (a bit) and didn’t quote because I will not quote from a paid for article and copy/paste, that’s not the right thing to do.

    If anyone wants a full transcript you need to subscribe to the Athletic. But this is a fair summary of what McDonough said in response to the questions.

  • February 8, 2019 at 8:13 am

    @ Tab

    Yes of course I know about NTC’s and that it’s not a guarantee a player will stay. I know players waive them all the time. It all depends, as you indicate.

    Simply in response to that poster’s daily “trade this guy, sign that guy” without consideration for the contract realities.

  • February 8, 2019 at 9:03 am

    I could see a trade where say Devils who have a couple aging dmen might want to get younger and be willing part with a Blake Coleman a good pk guy who can give a bit of offense too. Don’t mean part with your future blueline but maybe the surplus or something along that line happening. A keeper who can help now without an impact on future cap situation.

  • February 8, 2019 at 9:10 am

    I did not see the terrible game Forsling had as everyone is saying. I did see him battling hard in front of the net to keep Roussel, a pretty tough customer, away from a loose puck in front of Delia. I also saw him on the ice for a goal where he took his man out along the boards with a nice defensive play and moved the puck to the other side where eventually a guy beat Gus one on one and scored. His compete level was very good.

    Delia did make some great saves but he gave up a goal on his glove side from along the boards in which he was out of position and gave the guy way too much to shoot at. Hopefully he learns to correct his positioning and makes life easier for himself, because that should have never gone in.

    Still, a character win on the backs of our stars, mostly Toews, Dcat, Strome. This team is intent on making things very interesting leading up to the trade deadline.

  • February 8, 2019 at 9:13 am

    Row – thanks for the summary of the McD interview – while I wavered a bit on SB I am pleased to hear such strong support.

    I remain hopeful that Forsling can generate interest at the TDL. While he has had his struggles he is a young guy that has played a reasonable amount of games to show that he has NHL talent. Instead of a draft pick I would prefer a young forward who has potential to be a solid 3rd line kind of guy.

  • February 8, 2019 at 9:20 am

    The Hawks (3) pending UFAs (Ward, Kunitz, Kruger) will fall off the back of the wagon on July 1st. Trading one of them wouldn’t really make us sellers.

    AA would be the type of trade that would make us sellers, but there are better options for teams for teams looking for a center – Staal and Duchene being two, and they are true rentals whereas AA has 2 years left.

    Saad – I’m in the camp that want to hold on to him. Is he worth $6M? No, but he’s not that far off and he’s under contract for 2 more seasons.

    Keith – sure if it means getting a player that will be a piece of the future or decent draft pick. (the Keith for Kapanen pipe dream is still alive).

    Seabrook – would cost a huge incentive for a team to take him off our CAP – let’s not lose another good young player to pay for a bad contract.

    Gustafsson – this one is intriguing because he’s obviously had a role in the PP’s massive improvement but he’s a disaster in the d-zone. I don’t think he needs to be kept to be the PP-QB of the future because for sure Boqvist and probably Jokiharju can fill in that role very well – but they may not be ready by next season. I guess I would trade him is the return is decent.

  • February 8, 2019 at 9:30 am

    Vegas, Buffalo and Montreal have a boatload of draft picks in the early rounds, as does Colorado( but I don’t see Stan dealing them a player to help them while we are chasing them ).

    According to McDonough, Stan is burning up the phone lines. I agree with most of you guys : selling Anisimov and Forsling will not hurt this playoff push in any way.
    Dahlstrom should be playing every night, instead of Forsling, as should Slater K.

    Big Centers are hard to come by. Somebody is going to land Kevin Hayes putting pressure on other contenders to find a consolation prize, perhaps Anisimov.
    However, with Kampf’s injury, Anisimov suddenly has a much more important role in the Hawks playoff push. His penalty killing is stellar and he generally makes smart, straight ahead hockey plays when on the ice. Unfortunately a $4.5 Million player needs to make that tap in goal that Kahun put on a platter for him. That miss and Perlini’s penalty were awful.

    Should be an interesting Friday. Trades seem to be coming sooner this year.

  • February 8, 2019 at 10:18 am

    Of course McDon would say Bowman is burning up the phones. That’s his job. Hey he might add a piece but bottom line at this point’s all on the goalies now. The boys are playing good hockey. You also never know how hot an average goalie can get in the playoffs. Antti Niemi. He won a Cup for us. Where is he today? Whose he starting for?

  • February 8, 2019 at 10:25 am

    Ku ku ku kudos to kookoo. Only 5 games played so not jumping to any conclusions but I like the early returns on this guy so far. Decent size, move very well and he’s a lefty which is important with our RD heavy team. He’s 24 but only has 90 NHL games so he could still have a lot more improvement in him. Another 1st rounder (10th) that hasn’t panned out so far – if this guy turns into a keeper we may need to start calling Stan “Midas”.

  • February 8, 2019 at 10:25 am

    It was kind of weird to be at a UC game that actually had some meaning within the present standings as teams battle for wild card spots. Knowing that, I was surprised to see so many empty seats in what was an important game for both teams. Some season ticket holders appear to not be buying in to the recent upswing I guess. It was a good game last night for the fans.

    The Dylan Strome project is one we should all be enjoying. SB deserves due credit for bringing him here for Schmaltz. Never mind the very unfortunate season ending injury Schmaltz has endured. Strome sees the ice impressively. At times he appears to “overthink” plays/shot opportunities, but his hockey instincts are strong imo. Those passes to D Cat last night were phenomenal. Get used to it, as those guys have serious chemistry.

    Perlini, what was he thinking. Can’t take that penalty so late.

    Elias Pettersson is a really, really good hockey player.

    How can we not like Caggiula? Love the can do attitude he brings for such a little guy. Again, a tip o the cap to SB on that player move.

    I think Gus can improve his defensive game, but he is wildly inconsistent in his own end, especially with gaps. I don’t know what the Hawks could get by trading him. Gus is a proven NHL player, and there aren’t many guarantees with unproven kids. Gus has some serious work to do over the summer to tighten up that part of his game.

    I guess i don’t see Stan folding this team as a seller. They are a few pieces away imo because Toews is really back to where he was I would say 3 years ago. Duncan is still a very good player, Seabs contract isn’;t going anywhere. Kane just stays, Saad is showing he can really contribute. The Cat is not going anywhere either. Strome stays. I have always liked Anisimov. I think unless a deal he can’t refuse comes along SB waits until the summer. The team though needs more depth on both sides of the red line.

    While I still think it should have been over the summer, the Colliton and Brookbank additions are yielding positive results after a historically nasty stretch in Nov and into Dec. The team looks like they are having fun. Of course, winning doesn’t hurt attitudes. I saw the Cpt looking jacked up on the team skate off following the big comeback win in Edmonton the other night. Big happy high fines for ALL the players as they were leaving the ice. The room is in a good place right now, and the players have bought into the new system and their roles. The PP has actually been fun to watch develop. Now if the PK can just tighten up,

    My attitude remains the same with this team. Make the playoffs or not. It’s about watching our team play hard, entertaining hockey. If they make playoffs great. If this positive run falls off the rails so be it. It’s a team in transition on many levels. The Western Conference is not as strong as it was say 3-10 years ago. Stars, Wild, Nucks, Kings, Ducks are beatable. Avs on the way up as are Flames. It’s Preds, Jets and LV that are the top end and that’s about it. If Hawks somehow make playoffs we are going to be watching some great hockey along the way.

    Let’s Go Hawks!

  • February 8, 2019 at 10:47 am

    Phil, I agree with everything u wrote. I will add that not only has Toews recaptured his vintage self, he’s also playing with that will to win that carried him to Cups and Gold medals. That OT game winner was vintage. He refused to be denied and he was dog tired. The boys smell it now. Keith who’ve I’ve been down on and Seabs have a jump in their skates. They’ve all bought into the kid coach and his system. Q’s time had run out. It was the same old. One other huge point in all this is our goalies. Since Craw went down we had shit back there. Ward and Delia have revived them. The boys all knew no matter what they’d do we’d lose. U could see it in their faces. Not fun playing for nothing. Today as I said they smell it and are excited once again.

  • February 8, 2019 at 10:52 am

    It’s being reported that Panarin has changed agents and is now going with the same agent that Bobrovsky has … which leads to speculation they may want to sign together with a team (FLA?). That is not good news for the guys fantasizing about a Panarin-Kane reunion.

  • February 8, 2019 at 11:06 am

    We fans can be fickle. We can flip flop and change direction like Panarin’s edge work. But I think if we’re being honest with ourselves we should be more consistent with our flip flopping … as in admitting said flip flopping. As an example, there was a lot of criticism for Colliton when the Hawks were in the midst of playing terrible hockey. Then they started playing better and the criticism died down. Then they lost a bunch in a row again and out came the pitchforks for Colliton. Now they’ve won 6 in a row and the silence is deafening. Now maybe many of his earlier critics haven’t actually flip flopped on their opinion of him but I suspect some have and just haven’t been able or willing to admit it.

    If a coach gets blamed for the team playing poorly – shouldn’t he get praised when they play well/better?

  • February 8, 2019 at 11:40 am

    Thanks ER for the agent update with Panarin. I can still dream of him back wearing the Indian head though. That guy and Kane were simply sick together. Special chemistry there.

    Do you think Colliton had a gurgling gut in those first weeks with the Hawks? Yikes. Talk about being thrown into the frying pan. I think Brookbank has been a huge help to the young coach given the respect he has with the vets on this team.

    I couldn’t help but chuckle to read on the SBNation Nucks site someone posting about a “washed up Toews”. Those people must not be watching the Hawks play much this year. The Cpt IS back in a very big way. Agreed Greyhawk.

    Let’s Go Hawks!

  • February 8, 2019 at 11:47 am

    Do not think winning games is fools gold. Yes we played a much harder sch. and f uped sch in 1st 40 games. Yes the 2nd 40 games is not as hard and its a normal sch as in the layout of it (what sch should be like)(I should make the sch for the teams and get that east coast bias out of there, make those east teams do crazy travel to equal it to cambell teams travel).

    So even though we went 3-16 when it was harder that was mostly the roster/having those guys hurt/rock Dals and Murf and taking out those few players and putting in faster ones and ones that work better with system.

    Not taking or giving credit from coaches. Just simply the roster difference, the PP/which is best we ve ever had and one of best in league on any yr since 2008. Those things are why, not a easier sch.
    Because remember when we started the 2nd 40 games (which had a normal laid out sch.) we play a top 10 team every game, except PIT, in 8 of 9 games, we played good in 8 of those 9 and went 6-2-1 against top 10 teams.

  • February 8, 2019 at 12:07 pm

    Kane had great chemistry with Panarin, but he and the rejuvenated Jonny fit together very nicely as well. Kane just needs someone to play with and that has been Jonny for most of their careers.

    In his 2 years with us Panarin scored 30 and 31 goals — Debrincat will BLOW by that this year. We already have our sniper.

    We do not need Panarin and he would be a huge albatross salary wise. I just don’t get the obsession with resigning him. He would cost too much, and we don’t need him. Come on Dale — sign him up!

  • February 8, 2019 at 12:13 pm

    Row, thanks for those cliff notes. We do no ever get to read those athletic stuff.

    Craig, think same. Those are two center someone posted, there are more then two playoff teams that want/need extra/more depth centers that have size, like NAS did and hey are top 3 team, still added that big slow prime yrs extra depth center. So think same that that could be a good trade even if we trade what return in another trade, so initial isint last stop.

  • February 8, 2019 at 12:16 pm

    Sure, but two Debrincats or Bread Men are better then one. So I think it would be ok if we added an elite FW like Bread Man or Stone or similiar. It might be better to add two 4-6m really good FW instead of one elite. If we do not add any, thats a problem.

  • February 8, 2019 at 12:21 pm

    There is still criticism being expressed regarding the playing of man-2-man defense versus zone. It was noted that the way the game is played today with more motion than station offense makes it more difficult to play M2M. An example was given where Seabrook stood watching rather then defending anyone supposedly because he wasn’t sure what he should do.

    All that is probably true but the alternative to M2M is not without it’s deficiencies too. There could be countless examples cited where a player stood around watching a play supposedly because he wasn’t sure what he should do. I suppose all those examples prove is players not playing their position correctly results in bad defense.

    I’m not an expert by any stretch but I think it’s fair to say M2M defense requires more of the individual players than zone defense does, therefore making zone defense less risky. But it could also be a capitulation to not demanding more from the players. Ultimately it always comes down to employing the method that results in less goals scored by the opposition which leads to winning games. I don’t know what the fancy stats say but the anecdotal evidence suggests the Hawks are bad defensively regardless if they play M2M or zone.

    What if it takes a while for Colliton to fully implement M2M and for the players to get proficient at it … but once they do they will be a better defensive team than if they had just played zone defense? Isn’t that the hope? Maybe they will be proficient playing M2M about the same time the team is willing to compete for the Cup again. And maybe a well played M2M defense is the best way to defend against this new speed/skill motion offense that is the new wave in the NHL? Maybe the Hawks will be ahead of the curve and it will be a major component of winning the Cup.

    It would be pretty cool if the Hawks perfected the defense that checks the speed/skill motion offense they first rode to winning the 2010 Cup that every team is now attempting to play. Offense/defense evolution is a constant in team sports. Maybe the Hawks can be the tip of the defensive spear the way they were the tip of the offensive spear a decade ago.

  • February 8, 2019 at 12:30 pm

    Phil, thinking same on Debrincat and Strome. I watched some video of Debrincat before he played a yr ago and a lot of the goals were in tight and around net area/close enough/a little away from it areas.

    What I saw was this relentless shot making (good in close/not too close) from the line he played on in juniors. I didnt look to much at the other two guys but sometimes you had to to see these in close passes that created really good shots, shot after shot, shift after shift. And I was focusing on debrincat and their was this Strome character making a lot of those passes to hi and him to him for goals.

    Like you said these guys are going to keep on doing it, forever.

  • February 8, 2019 at 12:39 pm

    Not unless Bread Man and Bob come to CHI.

  • February 8, 2019 at 12:57 pm

    I have a question you guys who have been into hockey a lot longer than me. Quite often some one will make a comment that so and so was out of position that led to a goal or break away. Does the team have meetings where they look at film like they do in football?

  • February 8, 2019 at 12:59 pm

    Thats good points and genius strategy. Get used to and good at man to man. Then be able to play both, when wanted. Switch it up on a team when they least expect it, at key times. I like being able to play both defenses. The only way how is to learn the one we do not know how to or havnt in 10 yrs.

  • February 8, 2019 at 1:00 pm

    There’s sexy and then there’s practical. We like sexy better then practical but practical is … well … practical. It would be fun to have Panarin back with the Hawks and have a 72-19-88 line. WOW! Right? To be more precise it would be fun for a season and than practicality would jump up and bite us when is came time to re-sign DeBrincat, Strome and others. So … we’ll always have our memories but we must let the past go.

    True confessions: I started thinking about adding Dzingel at the TDL this year. Now, before I’m berated for being hypocritical, let me explain that Dzingel is the UFA I would like Stan to sign July 1st so having him join his hope town team now may help him chose to sign with the Hawks. The downside would be the cost to acquire him from Ottawa now instead of just waiting until July 1st. I wouldn’t even consider our 1st round pick but maybe Sikura and a 3rd gets it done if Dzingel agrees to an extension before July 1st. I think plugging in Dzingel to either LW with Toews and Kane or RW with DCat and Strome improves either one of those lines. Plus Dzingel could play center for us at some point in the future.


  • February 8, 2019 at 1:01 pm

    The guys have been using the PP video room a lot since thanksgiving.

  • February 8, 2019 at 1:05 pm

    To me no matter, which really good ufas, we add we need to have a total of 5. In the yrs we were deep we always had the big 4 and then came this guy called the man child. Which gave us 5. Right now we always have 19 and 88. 12 is like having 10 and in a way 20 is like 81. So we need that 5th guy, who ever it is. Then also have to have a guy who can ‘play’ with these guys like 26 or 91. 17 is pretty cool, to.

  • February 8, 2019 at 1:13 pm

    Agree, agree, agree with so many of you that any trade decisions should be made not just to make the playoffs this year, but with an eye to the future. Kunitz, AA, Kruger, Ward, and some others should be shopped, provided a very good return. If a team is willing to part with a late 1st round pick or Grade A forward prospect for Keith, go for it.

    Some of you are being hypercritical, saying that there is no excuse for AA missing the open shot, despite a wobbling puck. This happens more often than not to the best of them.

    Toews goal was a clinic in the capabilities of a top-tier player. Several months ago on NHL Network I watched them demonstrate in the studio how a good player shields the puck with his body, as Toews did. The only way the defender could get the puck from Toews is by committing a penalty. I don’t know if Toews was suffering from the effects of concussions the previous two seasons, but I cannot think of better 2-way forwards than him and Hossa on any Blackhawks team over the many decades.

  • February 8, 2019 at 1:24 pm

    I look at who the Hawks would consider available for a TDL or offseason move to follow the simple criteria of whether that player would be contributor to bringing the team to elite/contender status.

    Of the NHL roster, IMO that list includes Kane, Toews, DeBrincat, Strome and Delia (Jokiharyu as well even though he is in Rockford right now.) Outside of that, I think to greater or lesser degrees anyone else could be considered as a trading piece IF they get a very good return. NOTE, ONLY IF THEY GET A GOOD RETURN. NOT ADVOCATING DUMPING PLAYERS.

    @ER, I like your breakdown of the players the Hawks could/would like to move. I wonder who are the most inquired about players from the ones you list. Probably Saad and Gustafsson.

  • February 8, 2019 at 1:26 pm

    EB playing man to man requires the player after the play gets scrambly to pickup their man again instead of reacting to the puck the we want to see them or used to seeing them do. So we have to adapt how we watch them as well.

    If Sens aren’t going to resign Dzingel and they want get something, rather than nothing type deal, yes but as ufa with no guarantees why give up anything significant.

  • February 8, 2019 at 1:48 pm

    @ER, I agree about the Hawks possibly acquiring Dzingel as a FA. With a guy like Dzingel I think there is more room to negotiate a team friendly deal than one could with Panarin, et. al…

    I hadn’t considered a trade deadline move for him. Your logic makes sense to me if bringing him in a trade gives the team an advantage to signing him before he hits the open market. I think if the Hawks are going to make a splash in FA this summer, it will be guys like Dzingel they will target. The second tier FA’s rather than the big names like Panarin. Obviously this is contingent on him being a Hawks target FA.

    The only problem I see with this logic is that the price on him may be higher than the Hawks are willing to pay because a playoff team may target him as a true rental for their own playoff run. Can the Hawks compete with teams who are true TDL buyers (i.e. will overpay for a rental) when you are trying to be a seller?

  • February 8, 2019 at 2:04 pm

    I think Dzingel would be a great add, but as a UFA in the summer. I would not advocate giving up anything to add at the deadline. Teams with bottom 1/3rd penalty kill and bottom tier goal differential don’t win the Cup, even if they do sneak into the playoffs.

    Maybe our position in the standings is more incentive to hang onto Gus or other tradeable, non-expiring assets until the summer. I could get behind that kind of management support for the potential playoff run.

  • February 8, 2019 at 2:31 pm

    @ER, intersting thoughts about M2M -vs Zone.

    When I think of Quennevilles implementation of the zone defense, it felt like it was not working well against the really fast/quick forechecking teams (the modern NHL…) When we played Nashville or Vegas, it was like “here we go again…” I could not articulate what it was that was bothering me about it. But an answer by McDonough on the timing of Q’s firing put words to the thoughts in my head about what was wrong with Q’s defense.. He said “There was a sameness that had crept in.” That is exactly how I felt watching the Hawks get swarmed by the faster teams in their own zone. It looked the same and the results were the same (bad.) The scheme seemed to work against the big slow teams (Anaheim, the old NHL…) but not against he new fast ones.

    It is entirely possible that the issue the Hawks have on the blue line was not scheme related but personnel related. Big and slow is big and slow in M2M or Zone. But I still think the Hawks look better overall in the new scheme than they did in the old. For me it is about how much room the opposing forwards have to maneuver with and without the puck. Under the old scheme, I felt that the opposing forwards were either getting open or already open and a Hawks defender sitting in his “zone” could not react quickly enough to cover him.

    Under the new M2M scheme, the Hawks have that gap closed all the time because the defender never leaves the guy he is covering (in theory.) So I feel like I am seeing less goals where an opposing forward slips into the zone and accepts a pass and gets a high quality shot off before the defenseman closes the gap on him. I think I would need to research some stats to see if this bears out and the eye-test is failing me, but to me, the Hawks look so much better in their own end now than they did under Q at the start of the year.

    I am not an expert, and I have a feeling I am completely oversimplifying the difference, but that is how it looks to me. Personally, I am a fan of the switch and I think the Hawks look better and are more active and less befuddled by the quicker forechecking teams than they were in the old system. Again, not sure the stats will bear that out, but that is how it feels to me…

  • February 8, 2019 at 2:56 pm

    M2M versus Zone… I am a B-Ball guy… some major Differences

    M2M- if You can put great pressure/checking on the guy with the Ball/Puck… it will make all of the other players look way better- even when they are off their coverage or man… so that is a HUGE key to the success

    Zone- Is kind of the opposite… the other 4 players (covering w/out puck/ball) really need to be in Sync… and move in Harmony in their coverage- especially when their assignment is one pass away from a quality chance.

    Either D can be successful… but IF you have horses/to put great pressure on Ball/Puck… a lot of times that M2M is a Killer… I coached many teams in B-Ball – and when I had the guys to apply great pressure on Ball… u can hide a lot of deficiencies

    Last thought– I think it is a lot easier to transition out of that M2M pressure into the O… and in my eyes- Hawks are getting a lot of 3 on 2’s w/ JC at helm… even lower quality lines are getting into transition more… at least that is what my eyes say… of course it could be the softer schedule too!!!

  • February 8, 2019 at 3:23 pm

    Time for a “this is what I would do” post.

    1. Let the season play out without making any substantial moves unless we can peddle Anisimov to someone at the TDL.

    2. Learn our draft position. If our pick enables us to select Hughes, Kakko, or one of the top centers who projects to be a #1/#2 center within a couple years – then skip step-3 and proceed to step-4.

    3. Use our #1 pick to acquire RFA Kasperi Kapanen from Toronto either by trading our 2019 #1 to them at the draft or by an offer sheet for $5M on July 1, (which would be our 2020 #1 pick).

    4. Acquire UFA Ryan Dzingel on July 1 – 5yrs/$5M.

    5. Acquire UFA Ben Chiarot on July 1 – 5 yrs/$4M.

    6. Sign Ian Mitchell out of NCAA




    Forward TBD possibilities: Hayden, Kubalic, Sikura, Perlini, Kurashev, Barratt, Entwistle, Hagel – whoever wins the competition in training camp.

    Dman TBD possibilities: Boqvist, Beaudin, Mitchell, Dahlstrom, Koekkoek, Gustafsson, Dahlstrom, Forsling, Carlsson – whoever wins the compeition in training camp.

    Goalie TBD – depending on Crawford’s health.

  • February 8, 2019 at 3:51 pm

    Very interested to see the scouting presence at this weekend’s Rockford games vs. Tucson, the Coyotes AHL team. Pretty sure one or more of the Blackhawk brass will be there.

  • February 8, 2019 at 4:03 pm

    Wall good point, if the young mobile guys especiallly defense, and get speed and skill throughout throughout the lineup, those coming up can use their mobility to keep the pressure on this man on man system may work very well.
    Just right now looks good in some ways, but kinda rough around the edges too.

  • February 8, 2019 at 4:03 pm

    ER, good ideas and prob get Chiarot for less caphit.

  • February 8, 2019 at 4:13 pm

    Don’t forget who would be offering these UFAs contracts. Bowman has his pluses and minuses but he is crap when it comes to getting good cap hits for players.

    Probably the biggest factor that will influence how much we have to spend this offseason is what you think we can re-sign Dcat and Strome for after next season. I believe they could be extended this offseason if we wanted to. I would suggest doing it sooner rather than later on Dcat, Strome you probably want to see him play out a full year here, and his agent probably does too.

    If you could get both for $11 million I think that would be pretty good. Dcat $6.5, Strome $4.5. But the more Dcat scores he is going to be putting himself near the $8 million range when you look at comparables. For sure if he hits 40 goals this season.

  • February 8, 2019 at 4:21 pm

    I don’t really care about John McD’s opinion on hockey matters. He is a market winter classic expert, no hockey IQ. Has no clue what he is watching.
    I am a fan of Dzingel as well. If Stone and Panarin sign elsewhere, he would be a useful left winger. Speed, some size and great hockey sense. Playing alongside Toews would be nice to see.
    Of course, Panarin with Kane as well.
    The Strome badwagon slowly dims when you watch his 5 on 5 capacity to keep up with plays. He looks like a 35 year old when he skates. SLOW. I still believed in the chemistry Schmaltz and Kane had especially when number 8 wasn’t playing centre. Of course, Strome has teh ability to find Cat to score. What else can he do?
    Coach Q made a mistake with Schmaltz, who is a natural playmaking center.
    Happy to see 2 and 7 together on the ice.
    Canucks outplayed the Hawks last night but the guys stayed alive until the end. Getting a top 5 pick should still be Mr.Bowman’s goal. Getting into the playoffs only gives the Wirtz family 2 home games. Not worth it. Retool for next year.

  • February 8, 2019 at 4:31 pm

    @ Hull65/Makita

    “I don’t really care about John McD’s opinion on hockey matters. He is a market winter classic expert, no hockey IQ. Has no clue what he is watching.”

    Yeah sure. Says the guy who a respected poster here said lives in an alternate reality and the site owner termed … for the most part, a moron.

    McDonough has been president of a very successful hockey franchise for almost 12 years. He has forgotten more about hockey than you will ever know.

    Strome now has 27 points in 31 games in Chicago. Pretty good results for someone you regularly bash. How are James Neal’s stats in Calgary, you know the guy you were beating the drum for in free agency and later berating the Blackhawks brass for not signing him?

    By the way, did you look up the length of Tallon’s GM tenure with the Blackhawks? NOT how long he was in the organization, his tenure as GM as you originally wrote. I will dig up your quote if necessary. You said he was GM of the Blackhawks for a decade. Did you find out if a decade was correct, or perhaps some lesser amount of time like four years?

  • February 8, 2019 at 4:32 pm

    NHL pro scouts and sports journalists feel Danault can have a Patrice Bergeron style career. This is a guy who had over 100 points in Junior hockey and played on the Canadian junior team.
    Laurent Dauphin?

  • February 8, 2019 at 4:41 pm

    @ Hull65/Makita

    “NHL pro scouts and sports journalists feel Danault can have a Patrice Bergeron style career. This is a guy who had over 100 points in Junior hockey and played on the Canadian junior team.
    Laurent Dauphin?”

    Do you ever have a point? If so, what is it, oh wait a minute, no one cares.

    Did you ever look up Tallon’s tenure as Blackhawks GM? Not how long he was in the organization, his tenure as GM. Did you find out it was a decade as you claimed, or were you wrong AGAIN and it was a shorter duration, like maybe four years?

  • February 8, 2019 at 6:34 pm

    Row, oh how boring.
    Director of player personnel in 1998 means he had a direct say in helping to build a team, drafting and pro scouting from scratch after Wirtz gutted the Hawks. JR, BELFOUR, for example gone. Why? Rather pay the late Bob Probert than JR? Were you following the Wirtz hockey team then? Doesn’t matter.
    From 20005-2009 Tallon was the Hawks GM who gloriously built the 3 cup champs. Very clear from the outset Mr.Row, who never answers anything because he simply does not know.
    Tallon speaks perfect French, like Toews and a great golfer like JR. What else do you want to know? When his mother died, the entire team went to the funeral. When did I meet Bobby Hull? Mikita? Esposito? Savard? Eddie O? I worked with the great Dennis Hull as well once, funny man. Anything else you need to know about Hawks history? Indigenous culture! Something this country still has no respect for.
    Simple, did you like that Danault trade? As usual no answer. So let’s get back to your favourite topic, Sikura, Edjsell, Kunitz, Manning, Davidson, Ward, Bouma, Weise, Fleishmann, Morin, Dano, Scuderi, Erhoff, Franson, Osterle, Rutta, Baun, the vice-president, John Mr.Hockey McDo? Alright, he is so desperate for the Hawks to make the playoffs so he can sell a few home games and charge us more next year. He wants Rocky happy. As Justin Lowe says on the HockeyBuzz, this would not be a great idea to have Mr. Santa Bowman make a buyers’ trade at the deadline and morgage more future picks because Mr.Cub wants to get 2 games at the United Center. Build for next season.
    Then again, apart from AA, Kruger, Forsling or Strome, they don’t have much to offer. Hopefully, they let the them play out the year, miss the playoffs and draft a clever winger with size and speed that can score to compliment Toews or Kane. Sign one or two real free agent forwards. They need a few upgrades via free agency and hopefully draft in the top 5 a player with immediate impact next season. It can be done with the right people in management. Now back to hockey.
    Let’s see if Carter Hart is playing!
    Go Kaner!

  • February 8, 2019 at 7:10 pm

    Hull65 you are an IDIOT!

  • February 8, 2019 at 7:13 pm

    @ Hull65/Makita

    Questions for you …

    You said Dale Tallon’s tenure as Hawks GM was a decade. So now you admit it was 2005 to 2009. You are admitting you were wrong AGAIN?

    Who was Gustav Forsling originally drafted by, was it Edmonton like you said, or ???

    Tallon’s name is on the Cup once, not three times. Look it up. I know looking up facts is not among your strong suits, but do it.

    You will see Stan Bowman’s name on the Cup three times. Big difference. Tallon did NOT build the 2013 and 2015 teams. Just because players were still there from his tenure does NOT mean he built the team. First, he was not employed by the team when they won in 2013 and 2015. Second, many personnel decisions were made from 2009 when he got dumped as GM to June 2013 when the next Stanley Cup came to Chicago. Are you that clueless that you can’t understand? Obviously you are, in four languages to boot.

    Two more facts. McDonough has forgotten more about hockey than you will ever know, and I have forgotten more about Blackhawk history than you will ever know. You got the Tallon GM thing wrong, I corrected you because you do not have the knowledge. You got the who drafted Gustav Forsling thing wrong (and of course spelled his name wrong) and I corrected you because you do not have the knowledge. You are incapable. A respected poster here says you exist in an alternate reality. The site owner said you for the most part are a moron.

    It’s not everyone else. It’s YOU.

    Here is your answer on the Danault trade for the 3rd time. Obviously it did not turn out well for the Blackhawks. I will accept my team’s GM making those types of deadline trades to push for a Stanley Cup and get his coach the type of players he requests every deadline they are in position to win.

    Now let me ask you this about your great Danault. How many Stanley Cups have the Montreal Canadians won lately? Thought so. The same amount of hockey knowledge you have – zero. That number should be familiar to you, it’s the same amount of Stanley Cups Tallon has won down in Florida. And Doug Wilson out in San Jose.

    Love the name dropping of all the players you worked with or are buddies with. WHO CARES. It still didn’t cure you of stupid, in four languages no less.

    You must really be in mourning (probably in four languages) about McDonough saying Bowman is his GM moving forward. That must really eat at you. Too bad, deal with it.

    Justin Lowe on Hockey Buzz. Bwaaaaaaaa-haaaaaaaaa-haaaaaa!!!!! Is THAT site where you’re picking up your knowledge? Tell us more about Eklund’s rumors LOLOLOLOL.

    You have a weird obsession with Carter Hart. And Knott and Iacopelli. Seek help.
    On the other hand, I will enjoy the play of one Alex Debrincat, who was drafted in the same round as Carter Hart and who you said was too small to be in the NHL.

    How is your letter to Rocky Wirtz coming along? You might want to edit it now that McDonough rained on your Fire Bowman parade. Surely you’ve come up with a first draft by now? Or do you somehow think posting your ludicrous (big word I know, look it up) nonsense on two anonymous message boards will somehow change the world? Really … are you THAT clueless?

    You have taken the first step in admitting you do not know what you’re talking about by FINALLY telling the truth about Tallon’s Blackhawk GM tenure. Now you only have about 50-60 other screw ups you’ve posted you need to fess up to.

    Let’s start with an easy one because easy is all you can handle. Who originally drafted Gustav Forsling? Was it Edmonton as you claimed? Or was it some other NHL team? You go look that up and get back to us.

  • February 8, 2019 at 7:20 pm

    @ Truth

    Facts and actual hockey knowledge evade him is how I’d describe it. And word usage, like this quote:

    Hey Hull65/Makita, take a look at this one:

    Your quote:

    “draft a clever winger with size and speed that can score to compliment Toews or Kane.”

    So what do you want this clever winger to compliment Toews or Kane about? Like their uniform looks nice or their haircut looks nice or something like that?

    I think the word you were seeking is complement, with an “e”, not compliment with an “i”. The former means “goes well with” As in, a nice pre game meal complements a hockey game experience. A compliment means to say something nice to someone, as in that’s a nice tie you’re wearing.

    Do you get word usage wrong in all four languages or in your personal interactions with all the hockey players you claim to know?

  • February 8, 2019 at 9:46 pm

    But wait … my earlier “this is what I would do” post only spoke to what I would do if the Hawks didn’t end up with Hughes/Kakko in the draft. But what if we were fortunate to get the 1st or second pick?

    1. Pick Hughes/Kakko
    2. Offer sheet RFA Kapanen for $5yrs/$5M (cost is 2020 1st round pick)
    3. Sign UFA Dzingel for 5yrs/$5M.
    4. Sign UFA Chariot for 5yrs/$4M.
    5. Sign Mitchell to ELC
    6. Unload Anisimov somehow/someway.


  • February 8, 2019 at 9:47 pm

    Row, you are like Sisyphus, the Greek who had to keep rolling the boulder up the hill, to no avail.

    Why bother???

  • February 8, 2019 at 9:48 pm

    Prospects: Chl
    Boqvist 1g 2a
    Entwistle back in lineup no points 5 of8 fo
    Hagel 1a after 2nd

    Barrett 1a

    Hakkaeainen 1a

    Nilsson 1g 1a
    Johnson 1g
    Louis 1g
    Sikura 1a
    Jokiharju 1a
    Gilbert 1a

    Wall Kaliyev 3g 2a

    Contracts extensions for 2020 rfa/ufas can be done after July 1st. Allowed to do it up to 1 year in advance.

  • February 8, 2019 at 10:12 pm

    Lankinen 23 saves 24 shots win Icehogs too.

  • February 8, 2019 at 11:52 pm

    Even if people think or are idiots nobody should say it to them. Thats classless.

  • February 8, 2019 at 11:54 pm

    ER, pretty much everything in your posts to hope, are going to happen. It isint a dream its reality, we will get a top 5 skill, unless were 9th seed. I do not see that happening. I see top 6 pick or playoffs happening, eh.

  • February 9, 2019 at 12:23 am

    Carlo, Row bothers because he want to pin Ohio St. players like Bo Nickal.

  • February 9, 2019 at 12:28 am

    Truth, what’s your problem. You too now, childish talk. Ease off with the foul language. These is a message board of information. Spin it all you want, Row has not answered one question while I have given you knowledge and facts. Tallon part of Organizatiion since 1998 not as an accountant but director of player personnel, until GM status in 2005. I have said this from the beginning, over and over again.
    What’s Charles Barkley’s word, knucklehead? I apologie, this is sad.
    Forsling drafted by Vancouver traded for Clendening, old news, I have said that over and over again as well. So answer any of my 40 questions Row and you win a Reg Kerr hockey card or a Jean Savard right handed hockey stick? Do you even know who these guys are? Jean is Savy’s cousin by the way. Of course not. How did Jean Savard tape his stick? About 3 to 4 strips on the heel, that’s it. Ask Bob Pulford if you want to double check that. Are you okay, too much information? Don’t ask John McDo.
    Haha, I do like the McDo comment, he knows hockey? Wow, Cubs win, Cubs win!
    Hey Truth and Row, how does an organization go over 10 years not drafting an NHL calibre goalie after Tallon drafted Crawford? How does an organization go years without drafting an NHL calibre right winger after Tallon drafted Kane? Debrincat is one, thx Stan.
    Anyway, it’s a lost cause talking hockey facts with Row.
    Stop projecting and answer some simple questions. Super easy. Please, the McDo comment is soooooooo funny. He knows hockey? He was not hired for hockey a resume, ask Rocky.
    Let’s start easy; do we have a top 6 forward prospect in Rockford or College or Junior hockey? Let me answer for you because you have no clue. No, which is why drafting in the top 5 next draft can help the Hawks short and long term.
    Focus Row, talking hockey.
    We have 4 dmen prospects. I said one too many but could be good bait in a hockey trade for a young forward prospect. Stan should have drafted a forward, that’s all.
    Focus Row, a hockey trade, talking hockey.
    I think Santa Bowman can make a splash if he stands up to the marketing salesman, John McDo, and start a retool for next year as long as he doesn’t sign players like Kunitz and the gang. Good free agents, try to trade AA and Forlsing. Make hockey decisions for a quick turnaround.
    Focus Row, this is simple hockey talk. Forget, your boring narrative and sad structural rhetoric.
    But I leave you with trivia questions: You can look up the answers, no worries. Cheat all you want if you don’t know.
    Who did we get for Danault?
    Did we get a 2nd round pick for Teuvo; a cup winer, Junior tournament MVP, and former 1st round pick?
    Focus Row, hockey trivia, easy stuff, look it up.
    Make it easier on you, who did we get for Nick Leddy?
    How many players are in the lineup today that Bowman and Kelley actually drafted? Again very easy, look it up.
    Fun facts.
    MVP Kane

  • February 9, 2019 at 12:39 am

    Take her easy Hull. Its not worth it.

  • February 9, 2019 at 12:41 am

    To continue with real hockey talk, one player Bowman should look at is Burakovsky from Washington. He seems to be available.
    Skilled center with lots of speed and good size as well. He can upgrade our talent down the middle for next season, eventually playing alongside Kane. Could be worth it.

  • February 9, 2019 at 12:42 am

    I mean that with good intentions.

  • February 9, 2019 at 12:45 am

    Yes, at the time I thought that the Danault trade was a bad one and it sure was. But Bowman has made a number of good trades particularly in the past three years.

    One trade rarely discussed was Hjalmarsson for Murphy. While Murphy will never be the player that Hjalmar was, he is pretty good and improving. He is six years younger and will still be young when Hawks become a contender again. Meanwhile, Hjalmar is playing for a team going nowhere and is on the wrong side of 30. So, who got the better of this trade?

  • February 9, 2019 at 12:52 am

    Flyers got a steal in 1st round draft pick Joel Farabee at number 14 (2018). Kreider type speed and size. Perfect type of player Hawks need to draft next season. Too bad we did not get him at number 8.

  • February 9, 2019 at 5:41 am

    @ Hull65

    Answer these questions:

    Now you say Forsling drafted by Vancouver. First you said Edmonton. Why? Did you not know until I corrected you?

    Now you admit Tallon was GM for just four years. First you said a decade. Why? Did you not know until I corrected you?

    Your Danault question has been answered multiple times. If you can’t read or comprehend what you read, not my issue.

    Hull65/Makita: The proof is in the pudding. The poster Truth says you are an idiot. The site owner says you are for the most part a moron. A respected poster here says you live in an alternate reality.

    It’s not everyone else. It’s you.

  • February 9, 2019 at 5:59 am

    @ Hull65 / Makita

    Love the name dropping of ex Blackhawks. Sadly for you, I saw all of them play live. You obviously want to get into a dick measuring contest of who knows more hockey history. You lose hands down, badly.

    I saw LIVE both Jean Savard’s and Reg Kerr’s first Blackhawk home games at the Chicago Stadium. Also Denis Cyr, do you know anything about Les Trois Denis?

    Goalie question: Have you ever heard of Scott Darling? Signed for nothing and helped the Blackhawks win the Stanley Cup big time. Ever heard of Collin Delia? Signed for nothing, playing in the NHL and doing well. You DO realize there is more than one way to acquire players, right? That not every player needs to be a 1st or 2nd round draft choice?

    Terevainen question: Hey how many times has Carolina made the playoffs down there with the great Terevainen anchoring their lineup? Yup, same number of times as your hockey sense = zero. Same as the number of Stanley Cups your GM of the Week candidates Dale Tallon and Doug Wilson have won in their latest positions = zero.

    Players Bowman & Kelly have drafted:

    Can’t you look anything up? You DO realize personnel moves are made and drafted players are often traded, right? The poster Truth is spot on, you are not that bright. By the way, Strome your whipping boy because your boyfriend Schmaltz got traded is doing just fine in Chicago.

    Henri J. played in the NHL this year. Dahlstrom. Hayden. Debrincat. Saad. Many players who were traded for other assets whose names are on the Stanley Cup.

    Do you not get it? Are you incapable of understanding simple facts and logic?

    Oh … I guess you are incapable. After all, you have been termed “for the most part, a moron” by the site owner. Another respected poster says you live in an alternate reality. Another poster refers to you as an idiot.

    You continually get facts wrong until I correct you and then you lie and say you have claimed the truth multiple times. You also lie about not being the user name Makita here and who knows how many others.

    In summary … it’s not everyone else … it’s you.

  • February 9, 2019 at 6:06 am

    @ Hull65 / Makita

    Crawford was drafted in 2003. Tallon was a BROADCASTER in 2003. Look it up.

    Tallon was Dir. Player Personnel from 1998 – 2002. Mike Smith in 2003 drafted Crawford, as well as Seabrook as well as Byfuglien.

    Tallon wasn’t named Asst. GM until Nov. 2003. HE DID NOT DRAFT CRAWFORD.

    Can’t you get anything right? Obviously no you can’t. How many times does it need to be explained to you. Oh that’s right, alternate reality at work.

    Maybe Jean Savard can fill you in in French.

  • February 9, 2019 at 6:41 am

    @ Hull65/Makita

    How is your recovery coming along with the info McDonough said? You know, about Stan Bowman being the architect of the teams’ future?

    I mean, that’s a lot of plans you have to cancel. Your Fire Stan Bowman Parade now has to be cancelled. Of course, so many people tried to tell you but it appears your alternate reality got in the way.

    All this is related to hockey by the way Hull65/Makita. The president of the team, what he says is related to hockey. A man who has been the president of the team for almost 12 years and has presided over the most successful stretch in franchise history – that’s related to hockey. He has forgotten more than you will ever know. He is the president of a hockey franchise. You are a poster on a message board, and a clueless one at that.

    Hull65/Makita, you say you know hockey history, name me a better stretch of success in Blackhawk franchise history. I will wait. For a long time.

    Speaking of history, do you know Scotty Bowman won his first Stanley Cup as coach on Chicago Stadium ice? May 1973. I was there in person. In fact I had a long discussion with Mr. Scotty Bowman on a flight to Phoenix about 15 years ago when he worked for the Red Wings. Great long conversation about it. The name Yvon Cournoyer came up frequently in the discussion.

    Do you know the name Al McNeil and his beef with the Pocket Rocket? Sadly for Blackhawks fans, it all worked out in the end for Montreal. Look it up. May 18 1971. I was there at the Stadium in person.

    Do you know the name Terry Sawchuck? Stoned the Blackhawks in the first round of the playoffs April 1967, substituting for another great, Johnny Bower. I was there in person at the Stadium. Tim Horton, Dick Duff, Red Kelly, George Chief Armstrong, Jim Pappin, Bob Pulford, Dave Keon, Bob Baun all on that Leaf team.

    Do you know anything about the Pittsburgh Penguins? Maybe even going back to the days of Ken Schinkel? Does the year 1992 ring a bell in Penguins history? It does for me. I was there in person at the Chicago Stadium, 1992. A bad memory.

    For your dick measuring contest:

    Family season tickets (father) at Chicago Stadium, beginning 1955. Until 1994 when the building closed. Was there in person when Roenick scored the final goal at the Stadium vs. Toronto in the playoffs 1994. Look it up.

    Saw Jack Norris stop a penalty shot vs. Mike “Shakey” Walton live at the Stadium in 1968. Go look up Jack Norris and you will see he had a connection with Gilles Marotte.

    Season tickets at the UC 1995 until 1998 until father retired and I moved out of state.

    My own season tickets at the UC from 2006 until 2016 when I moved too far from Chicago. Saw the 2015 Cup clinching game live. Loved that Vermette trade, big advocate for going for it at the deadline when you have the chance. Even ok with the Timmonen trade, the two 2nd rounders amounted to not much for Philly as I have said to you before.

    Care to get into any other dick measuring contests about hockey history Hull65/Makita?

    Oh PS: Was also at the Stadium live for Stan Mikita Day (or is it Makita in your alternate reality) in the mid 70’s. Still have the souvenir button they handed out as we walked into Gate 6 lobby. Also saw Stan Mikita (or is it Makita?) score his 500th goal live at the Stadium 1977. Opposing goaltender = Cesare Maniago. You do know the connection Cesare Maniago had with another famous Blackhawk, right? After all it is a part of two of your many user names.

    You lose Hull65/Makita.

  • February 9, 2019 at 6:59 am

    @ Row A: Either you actually enjoy giving these scoldings (as well as lessons in fact finding) or you have a clinical-level obsession with the ravings of an idiotic moron. Just ignore it.

    @ Hull65: please go back to using your previous name – it’s much more fitting – after all, Makita is a brand name for tools

  • February 9, 2019 at 7:41 am

    Some people are just never happy.

  • February 9, 2019 at 7:58 am

    (?bse??n )
    Word forms: plural obsessions
    variable noun
    If you say that someone has an obsession with a person or thing, you think they are spending too much time thinking about them.

    Synonyms: preoccupation, thing [informal], complex, enthusiasm More Synonyms of obsession

  • February 9, 2019 at 8:12 am

    I said Gustaf by Edmonton, look at your notes. Are you really that bored? Or you just make things up for your own entertainment. Talk about the play of Gustaf? Wow, this Mikita guy or legend really has you upset. Sad, get over it.
    Uncle Bill, it’s ok.
    Glad you made it to Chicago stadium.
    I still have not seen any hockey GM answers just bitching about facts that you are trying to inverse or deny.
    I am talking hockey, so try to enjoy yourself instead of changing facts just because you can’t handle having other knowledgeable people on board. And there are many on this board that have progressive ideas. Timmonen a great trade? Laughable.
    I know all about Chicago history and I am happy you know some too, hey something in common. Do you know about Native American history? Or do you deny that as well. First Indigenous player in the NHL was a Hawk. Great man, look him up.
    Just like you don’t care about me being at Chicago Stadium or the United Centre or travelling to see my hockey idle Bobby Hull in the WHA, I don’t care about your trips either. That’s settled.
    Now anwer hockey questions and try not to change words about who drafted what and when. Easy stuff.
    And if you can answer any of the 50 questions I put, move on.
    Enjoy number 88 and Peeters our soccer goalie from Belgium.
    How many players are in the lineup that Bowman drafted?
    Last chance?
    Go Kane MVP
    Go Tony Tanti!

  • February 9, 2019 at 8:22 am

    To Row A: really enjoyed your trip down memory lane. I’m also old enough to recall many of those moments. Saw my first game in 1961 when my older bro took me. I was mesmerized! Bobby and Stan were kids. Eric Nesterenko, Moose Vasko, Tex Evans, Reggie Fleming, the Million Dollar Baby line and original Scooter line. By the way u brought up Jack Norris. Boy did I hate that trade. We lost Phil, Freddie Stanfield & Ken Hodge for him, Pit Martin and Gilles Marotte. Also we traded Johnny McKenzie for who?

  • February 9, 2019 at 8:30 am

    I agree, that Phil Esposito trade was horrible.

  • February 9, 2019 at 8:32 am

    Show of hands – does anyone really care about the Hull65/RowA internet blood feud – who is right/wrong – whether the “record” is set straight – or pretty much anything they post to each other? (looking around) Well, since I don’t see any hands in the raised position with the exception of the combatants, I’m going to declare this war over by reason of “nobody cares”. Please resume normal internet activity.

  • February 9, 2019 at 8:41 am

    Row – your best strategy was and is to simply scroll on by

    You’re wasting your own valuable time and energy

    and from a selfish point of view I’d rather read your thoughtful comments on the Hawks

  • February 9, 2019 at 8:47 am

    Exactly. Getting worked up in a war of words for nothing. Opinions, like we used to say opinions are like aholes everyone’s got one.

  • February 9, 2019 at 8:54 am

    @ Hull65/Makita:

    Love the Uncle Bill comment! Go back to Makita, after all it represents tools! Perfect for you.

    You obviously can’t read. I clearly named several players drafted by Bowman/Kelly in my last post. READ AND COMPREHEND. You are dense.

    You were referring to Gustav Forsling. You spelled his name incorrectly as Gustaf. You said he was drafted by Edmonton, he was NOT. He was drafted by Vancouver. You had to look it up to see I am correct and then you move the goal posts.

    Funny you mention the WHA Hull65/Makita. Did you ever see WHA games. I did. We had season tickets for the Chicago Cougars their first season. In fact saw Bobby Hull there in his first game back in Chicago. Reggie Fleming and Hull obliged the crowd with a fight and they both laughed about it post game. You do know who Reggie Fleming was don’t you and his connection to Blackhawk history?

    Interesting no comments on the two NHL goalies the Blackhawks signed for no cost, Darling (who helped them win a Stanley Cup) and Delia who is playing well. I guess in your alternate reality they don’t count because they weren’t drafted in the 1st or 2nd round. Seek help about your Carter Hart addiction.

    Regarding Peeters, so what? What is your point? A third round draft choice who won’t make it? Is that what led you to your failed FIRE BOWMAN parade planning? If so, you should have planned a FIRE TALLON parade for his astute drafting of Kyle Beach over Erik Karlsson. Oh wait. McDonough (who has forgotten more about hockey than you will ever know) already did that. They let Tallon go because he was not capable of the contract side of the job, just like he got shoved aside down in Florida because he is not capable of handling the contract part of the job.

    Never said the Timonen trade was good. Said I was OK with it. Can you read and comprehend? If not, have someone explain it to you, maybe in four languages. Timonen had a big positive influence on your favorite Terevainen, who helped win the Stanley Cup. Sometimes it is more than on ice stuff, if you knew about hockey you would understand that. But you don’t.

    Your questions have been answered. Read and comprehend.

    Now two questions for you that you never answer:

    How is that letter to Rocky Wirtz coming?

    If you are not writing it, why, are you afraid of something, are you afraid of being laughed at here? News flash, you already are being laughed at. Every time you post. The site owner has dubbed you for the most part, a moron. The poster “Truth” dubs you an idiot. The poster Uncle Bill says you should go back to your Makita user name, as it represents a tool. Another respected poster says you exist in an alternate reality.

    It’s not every body else Hull65/Makita. It’s you.

    When you post nonsense your alternate reality nonsense, people will be here to counterpoint it.

  • February 9, 2019 at 9:07 am

    @ Ebony

    Please do not tell people what to do. You have a habit of doing that.

    When someone posts incorrect or utterly biased information, it merits a response. If you and a few others do not wish to read it, take your own advice. Scroll past.

    To Grey: Johnny “Pie” McKenzie, nicknamed Pie Face which later was shortened to Pie because another player said he looked like a cartoon character on a candy bar wrapper. He went to NYR briefly after the 1965 season in which the Blackhawks lost in 7 to Montreal in the Cup finals (I was at Game 6 live at the Stadium, barely remember it, was very young).

    McKenzie ended up in Boston and played on two Cup teams. I most remember him for a rather classless gesture on his part after the Bruins won Game 6 (and the Cup) on Madison Square Garden ice. He was skating around in circles at center ice holding his arm up in a Statue of Liberty stance, while his other hand simulated a choking motion around his neck. The implication of course was that the Rangers had choked.

    McKenzie later played in the WHA, saw him play many many times. McKenzie just passed away age 80 this past year.

  • February 9, 2019 at 9:14 am

    @ Hull65/Makita

    First Native American player to play for the Blackhawks:

    Fred Sasakamoose, well before my time. Sometime in the mid 1950’s.

    Also remember Everett Sanipass. Was at the draft when the Blackhawks chose him. I saw Scotty Bowman at that draft too, you know Scotty Bowman, the greatest coach in NHL history you called a “crybaby”.

    Keep asking questions, you are no match. Maybe answer the questions I have posed of you.

  • February 9, 2019 at 9:14 am

    ER- don’t care about this pissing contest- they should eat the yellow snow and move on…GO Hawks GO!
    For the record, I can spell Stan Mikita, Makita lithium-ion battery, Bobby Hull, Glenn Hall- and it wont change my life knowing or not knowing what Danault is doing Saturday morning?!

  • February 9, 2019 at 9:23 am

    @ Hull65/Makita

    By the way, it’s hockey “idol” not “idle”. Bobby Hull was your hockey idol, not idle. Idle is what you do in a car.

    Did you see him score his 51st goal at the Chicago Stadium, 1966? I was there. Lou Angotti was on the ice at the time. First time in NHL history a player scored more than 50. Maurice Rocket Richard and Bernie Boom Boom Geoffrion were others before who had scored 50. The play was right below us.

    The opposing goaltender? Cesare Maniago. See I just saved you some time looking up my other question above.

    I also saw live Bobby Hull’s final Blackhawk goal #604 at the Stadium vs. Detroit in 1972.

    On Dennis Hull, do you know the famous story of the back and forth he used to have with Glenn Hall on the 401 going from Detroit to Toronto? After all, you had interactions with Dennis Hull, surely you know.

    Keep those history questions coming Hull65/Makita. You are no match.

  • February 9, 2019 at 9:29 am

    Just in case Alternate Reality Hull65/Makita incorrectly claims I have not answered this question (about 10 times)

    Players Bowman & Kelly have drafted:

    Henri J. played in the NHL this year. Dahlstrom. Hayden. Debrincat. Saad.

    Many others who are now playing on other NHL teams.

    I don’t know how much clearer I can make it. I’m sure the goal posts will be moved again though.

  • February 9, 2019 at 9:34 am

    Thanks for the McKenzie update. Another flashback for me. Remember that playoff team in the late 60’s I believe that had Dan Maloney who was tough as nails, Jerry King Kong Korab, and then they brought up Rick Foley who was insane altogether.

  • February 9, 2019 at 9:46 am

    @ Grey

    You are close on Dan Maloney (who just passed away by the way). Maloney was their 1st round draft choice in 1970, he played one year for the Blackhawks and then for some reason they sent him to their farm team in Dallas.

    He was traded to Los Angeles at or near the 1973 trade deadline for Ralph Backstrom a center who had played many years for Montreal. Tommy Ivan the GM correctly thought the Blackhawks needed another playoff tested center to get through the playoffs and was willing to give up an asset in Maloney.

    It almost worked, the Blackhawks made it to game 6 of the finals before bowing to Montreal. Backstrom had an excellent playoff run but it wasn’t enough.

    Of course, Maloney went on to have a good career so most people who remember the deal look back on it in disgust.

    Rick Foley … traded to Philly for Andre Lacroix, a center who the very next year signed in the WHA. Basically a nothing for nothing deal.

    Jerry “King Kong” Korab: Lou Angotti used to torment Korab at Blackhawk practices. Korab was very big and not a great skater at all. Angotti was small and agile. Angotti used to weave around Korab in drills and say “come on and try to catch me you big ape!”.

  • February 9, 2019 at 10:05 am

    Row..Maloney passed away so young. You were spot on with this. I recall so well how aggravated I was when they sent him down and then traded. I had always liked Backstrom but he was near the end. There was one raucous game at the stadium that had an incredible brawl. Foley laid out someone and Korab was was going nuts. Nobody wanted to fight that guy. Every one on the ice was paired off but can’t recall what team they played. Back in the day nobody called a hockey fight better than Lloyd Pettit. “A right and a left, another right, a left! I’d be going crazy listening on the radio or watching on tv.

  • February 9, 2019 at 10:39 am

    @ Grey

    I was aggravated when they sent Maloney down too.

    The dynamics of that 1973 trade deadline and getting Backstrom, some of that script still resonates today. The Kings wanted to get younger, the Blackhawks were a top team “going for it” and the trade was made.

    The biggest success of the trade from Chicago’s perspective was beating NYR in the semi finals 4 games to 1, even after losing Game 1. The prior year, Bobby Hull’s last in Chicago, saw the Rangers sweep the Blackhawks and go to the finals vs. Boston. Backstrom was really good in that NYR-Blackhawk match up. Alas, for naught.

    Lloyd Pettit married Jane Bradley from Milwaukee. Heir to the Bradly fortune, the recently demolished Bradley Center was paid for from that money. He (Lloyd) was the point man for the Milwaukee Admirals hockey team, then in the IHL and for a year or two farm team of the Blackhawks (1980’s). I had the pleasure of a nice intermission chat with Lloyd at a game up there. He smoked like a chimney, always wondered how he kept that voice intact.

    You will also remember Jim West, who succeeded Pettit on WGN. I think he is still alive, pushing 90. Anyway, there is a great video highlight of Bobby Hull’s winning goal, Game 5 1971 Stanley Cup semi finals vs. NYR, Blackhawks win 3-2 in OT at the Stadium (I was not there, school night). Pit Martin won the draw cleanly back to Hull who in one motion wristed it low far side past Ed Giacomin for the winner.

    West’s call: “Bobby scores!!! Bobby Hull … the Blackhawks win it in overtime!” The roar of the crowd did all the other talking.

  • February 9, 2019 at 11:14 am

    RowA – my intent was not to tell you or anyone what to do or not to do, my intent was help you become aware of what a colossal ass you’ve become with your war against Hull65. You should know that the only one who cares about the points you make is you. We all have Hull65 figured out and he’s not a bad guy – hes just a Hawks fan who sees things more in a negative light than most of the rest of us. He has his opinions that may or may not mesh with other opinions but he’s entitled to have them and express them. It’s not a big deal. If this criticism compels you to obsessively attack me now – at least it would be a welcome change of pace.

  • February 9, 2019 at 11:23 am

    On Danault. This is classic example of a buyer at the deadline overpaying and the future coming back to bite a GM and team.

    Washington did the same thing, trading Filip Forsberg to Nashville for Martin Erat in a desperate move for scoring one year.

    Winnipeg, Vegas, Buffalo all have futures in terms of draft picks to bundle for a guy like Anisimov. Stan should wait until Tuesday morning 2/25, then field the calls of teams that do not get Hayes or Duchene.
    A big 40 point Center like Anisimov will have more value on that day than any other and offers a chance for Stan to sell high.

  • February 9, 2019 at 11:33 am

    With the game against Detroit tomorrow it got me to thinking about hated rivalries. There’s been a few that have lasted for many years but eventually the “hatred” fades, at least to a large extent. Detroit was our hated rivals for many years but does anyone still have that same level of hatred for Detroit anymore? Just like thoughts of the old North Stars, there’s still that “echo of the past” thing but it’s no where close to the same as it once was. More recently there was the rivalry with the Canucks but did anyone feel that same hatred when we played the a couple days ago? I didn’t.

    I suppose we still have the rivalry with the Blues but even with them it isn’t the same as it used to be with Wings and North Stars. We have a little something going with Nashville lately, but again, it just seems more tepid than the old rivalries, at least to me. Maybe relevancy plays into it in that the hatred gets raised the more important the games are and the Hawks haven’t had those types of games over the last couple years.

    Is it me or is that hated rivalry thing not the same as it used to be?

  • February 9, 2019 at 11:36 am

    Craig, I hope you’re right but with Anisimov having 2 years left at $4.5M – it’s tougher than trading a rental player like Duchene or Hayes.

  • February 9, 2019 at 11:37 am

    @ Craig

    Have read and this is my sense, the two pending UFA guys in Ottawa appear to be holding back the trade market, except for small peripheral deals.

    I agree Anisimov may have appeal close to the deadline, a lot depends on a team’s ability to pick up his contract and of course he has some trade protection. On the plus side for those who want to move him, the actual dollars paid out decrease fairly substantially the last two years remaining on his deal. Cap hit the same but dollars paid out decrease.

    Ebony: I do not care what you think. In fact I will take your name calling not only as a compliment, but as an indictment of you personally. You seem addicted to this board – good for you, it has zero affect to me.

    It appears coming up with way out there fantasy trade and offer sheet scenarios is your thing. Good for you. I find that stuff utter nonsense but have not been compelled to issue opinions about you and your posting behavior. Please return the same in kind. Otherwise you will get a retort from me just like Hull65/Makita.

  • February 9, 2019 at 11:54 am

    ER- your post evoked a truly scary reminder of a game I saw in Vancouver in 2014- me with my 19 Toews jersey and. Million Canucks fans … We won, but during the game slit of verbal abuse thrown at be and afterwards on the street I was threatened by some seedy looking dudes that said they’d beat the shit out of me if I didn’t take the jersey off! I didn’t – still to this day really hate the Canucks, even without the “Sedin sisters”! In Alberta Flames fans and Oilers fans are sworn enemies… and in Ontario, Leafs and Sens fans are equally hateful of each other. Don’t discount the Leafs-Habs rivalry… tonight will be like old times!!! Watch the fireworks

  • February 9, 2019 at 11:58 am

    Even though its a lot. I guessing a lot of people like it/having a ‘good’ laugh, so why not. It makes you work for the normal posts-to post and talk about.

  • February 9, 2019 at 11:58 am

    @Row, Do what you will regarding Hull, but know that I used to like reading your thoughts on the Hawks. Now, I ignore all of them because I got tired of trying to filter out the noise of your posts with Hull.

    Be careful that you do not become exactly what you are mocking/correcting/responding to in Hull. Hull has proven time and again that he made up his mind on Bowman and nothing anyone says is going to change that. Others have responded to you that what you are doing is not working and did not work for them, so it may be time to let it go. Here’s the kicker. Your refusal to consider their experience and incorporate it in your actions is not that far from Hull refusing to acknowledge and consider your responses about Bowman in his rants.

    Don’t become Hull.

  • February 9, 2019 at 12:05 pm

    Craig, yes yes. When 15 is the best center available and some teams still need/want to add a center thats when we get a big return for 15. It happens.

  • February 9, 2019 at 12:05 pm

    I’ve figured it out–Row A is actually Hoffmeister!

    Mystery solved!

  • February 9, 2019 at 12:10 pm

    Yea when your in enemy territory and there are hillbillys and seedy looking flatlanders, its a different vibe then the teams on the ice playing hockey.

    As for the red wings, until they take their revenge and say they like it, it hunting season all summer long (for 20 yrs of payback) and we might give it to them longer then for these 20 yrs, since they ran to the east conference and tucked tailed and run like red coats.

  • February 9, 2019 at 12:18 pm

    Sometimes sincere advise given falls on deaf ears … I gave it a shot.

  • February 9, 2019 at 12:20 pm

    Whats this stuff about having too many RD, I remember when we were trying to add RD with not having enough, there not being as many in league overall, and having more then we need or want is good because they are more valuable/bigger carrot.

  • February 9, 2019 at 12:26 pm

    To me having lots of RD is a good thing. It got us a 5th for a 7th, when 7ths do not usually get good players but 5ths do. Krugs, Shawzer, Johnson, Snuggerrud. So not that many but some good ones. Also got a maybe good 3rd pair defensemen in KoKo just for having a overflow of RD, nothing against 44.

  • February 9, 2019 at 12:27 pm

    @ Miroslav

    Well thanks for your words but I do not agree.

    You are more than welcome to scroll past or read whatever you like, it matters not to me.

    It is not the Bowman thing with Hull65/Makita, I do not care if someone likes Bowman or not. I myself am ambivalent on Bowman. If they decide to ultimately fire him or not, I have no control over that. I am not trying to convince anyone, I do not have an agenda like Hull65/Makita.

    It is simple. If he posts ill informed nonsense which lacks the ability to understand the full picture of today’s NHL, I will respond.

    I do not appreciate the “mother hen” role some posters are taking here, one in particular, although I believe that has been resolved unless it is brought up again.

    I too enjoy your posts.

  • February 9, 2019 at 12:30 pm


    I think you are confused. Perhaps you have been hit in the head too many times in those Mafia movies. Have another glass of red wine.

  • February 9, 2019 at 12:34 pm

    Crows at practice. Yeah baby!

  • February 9, 2019 at 12:49 pm

    Row..I almost vomited the first time I heard Jim West. Remember when he would say the puck corralled by Bobby Hull and friends. I was watching with my bro and we turned to each other and we’re Laughing our asses off, He was completely lame compared to Pettit.

    Question for y’all: If Craw is healthy do u send Delia to Rockford? He’s learning the NHL and is a talent.

  • February 9, 2019 at 12:52 pm

    Carlo, you may be on to something. We all have “signatures” that can be exposed when we don’t realize it and I’ve noticed a couple things recently that I’ve filed away.

    I’m here for the hockey talk but there is some fertile ground here for one to do a doctoral thesis on psychology. Just sayin …

  • February 9, 2019 at 12:54 pm

    Row A: your mafia/wine slur is identical to the hair trigger obnoxious responses of Hoffmeister.

    You thus support my contention that you’re really Hoffmeister under a new name! Thanks for coming clean!

  • February 9, 2019 at 12:54 pm

    Greyhawk, I think they pretty much have to – You wouldn’t send Ward and I doubt the carry 3 goalies.

  • February 9, 2019 at 1:01 pm

    Corey Crawford on the ice just 20 minutes before #Blackhawks are scheduled to practice.
    Might he partake???
    12:11 PM – Feb 9, 2019

    · 45m
    Corey Crawford still on the ice as the Blackhawks start practice. This would be his first actual practice since the concussion.

    And he’s indeed taking shots, sharing a net with Delia.
    12:33 PM – Feb 9, 2019

  • February 9, 2019 at 1:10 pm

    You’re right EB they have to. Sort of a shame tho. I think he’s a RFA and a must sign. We can’t afford to lose him. Craw is a question mark from here on out. Even if he does come back who knows if he’ll be the same goalie he once was. They can’t take that chance and be left with garbage like last year.

  • February 9, 2019 at 1:35 pm

    Maybe Ward will waive his no m9ve if Bowman can move him where he’d be happy and Crawford, Delia tandem then.

  • February 9, 2019 at 1:53 pm

    Didn’t Ward come here because for family reasons and thus the NMC was an integral part for him – someone correct me if I’m wrong

    I don’t think Ward is going anywhere until his contract expires

    Delia has been great for where he is in his development and I like his chances of being a #1 here but if/when CC is back he has to go to RKF – not going to carry 3 goalies

    If the Hawks miraculously make the playoffs he could be added to the roster

  • February 9, 2019 at 2:03 pm

    Wrap i know Kunitz had family reasons never heard Ward did, may not waive it but never know if you don’t ask, unless they sooner Delia in Ahl if Crawford returns.

  • February 9, 2019 at 2:10 pm

    @Wrap, I think you may be thinking of Kunitz. His wife is originally from Schaumburg if I am not mistaken.

    I thought Ward was brought in just for protection in the event that Crawford wasn’t ready to start the season. Not sure why the NMC was added on his deal. He may have insisted on it to prevent him from getting dumped if/when Crow was ready to take over…

    I agree that Ward is probably not going anywhere…

  • February 9, 2019 at 2:19 pm

    Nmc are often given out of respect on 35+ contracts so the player has control where he ends up, veto power as much as anything not always for firm not going at all.

  • February 9, 2019 at 3:19 pm

    Sorry Carlo, you intel is amiss. Although most whose names end in vowels are a little screwed up. Have another cocktail!

  • February 9, 2019 at 3:20 pm

    Ward’s family reason is his son has a specialized medical condition and he and his wife like the medical care here. It is Kunitz whose wife is from the Chicago area.

  • February 9, 2019 at 3:22 pm

    Ward does have something with one of his kids I think.

  • February 9, 2019 at 3:23 pm

    Typing at same time.

  • February 9, 2019 at 3:24 pm

    @ Ebony

    You may need a hobby. Besides hanging around here that is.

    If you want to continue to take shots, I will respond. Your mother-hen-of-the-board routine is distasteful. I thought we had resolved the issue with our last exchange but it seems you somehow need to keep it going. I wish you wouldn’t but it’s up to you.

  • February 9, 2019 at 4:06 pm

    Threats on an internet message board – hilarious.

    Dare I say your signature is showing. Say hello to Shmoopie for me.

  • February 9, 2019 at 4:18 pm

    Hoffmeister said: “Although most whose names end in vowels are a little screwed up.”


  • February 9, 2019 at 4:20 pm

    as the Blackhawks face the Red Wings tomorrow I wonder if there is any kind of deal that could bring Dylan Larkin to the Blackhawks. Am I a Dylan Larkin fan/expert? No. however I recall years ago Dylan being referred to as “the next Toews”. So how much value can we put in that sentiment? I have NO idea. With the wings Still in rebuild mode have to wonder if they would be interested in some prospects…..maybe….maybe a prospect defenseman and a draft pick……the Blackhawks have quite a few prospect defenseman and really should be in a win-now mode with Toews, Kane, and Debrincat. Dylan is affordable; the question is can he be traded for and would he fit in with the Seattle draft as well; I mean this question for both Detroit and Chicago? Of course all things should be considered including free agency next year and who the Blackhawks think they can sign/who they will sign. The Seattle draft is something quite a few teams may or may not be planning for too heavily. Have to wonder how much impact it’s having on trades now and this summer as the Seattle draft is far off enough…you know; like anything else you can make plans and the plans end up backfiring. Maybe better to proceed as normal and only work on it in the summer leading up to the draft. Hard to say; what do you all think?

    I’d like to add Panarin is rumored to just above everywhere, and I’m talking about both for trade, trade and sign, and sign this summer; Boston, Detroit, Florida, Tampa( he bought a condo in tampa as well I think I read?), the coast…..yeah I read the coast….which coast…..I took it as both. When and where Panarin lands depending on cap space expect the Anisimov to [signing team] rumors to follow if they have cap space and could use a center. On the flip side of the coin if Panarin comes here Anisimov would be the most likely to go to clear cap space. Go figure.

  • February 9, 2019 at 4:30 pm

    RC;PF GM – Larkin is the centerpiece of their rebuild. I’d be very surprised if he’s not an untouchable.

  • February 9, 2019 at 5:33 pm

    Thanks Row – I thought there was something like that with Ward liking Chicago and therefore probably not wanting to move although I guess he could go somewhere for a playoff run while his wife and child stay here – seems unlikely though

  • February 9, 2019 at 5:39 pm

    @ Ebony & Carlo:

    You two are meant to be together. Get a room!

  • February 9, 2019 at 5:40 pm

    Of course I went over to Hockey Buzz and guess who is posting over there non stop.
    Ebony Raptor. What an existence.

  • February 9, 2019 at 6:11 pm

    @tab regarding “Brian Campbell had one and had “the worst contract in the league”; I’m sure some people thought that however; Brian Campbell went on the lead the league in minutes played for several years in a row (really he played the most minutes most every game) and was second in points only to Erik Karlson on the Senators in terms of “defense”. Another salary cap casualty rarely mentioned when people talk about players lost

  • February 9, 2019 at 6:31 pm

    Mabye because it was one yr later, but it was part of that many guys after 2010.

  • February 9, 2019 at 6:37 pm

    Who did we trade to get Frozal.

  • February 9, 2019 at 6:53 pm

    MUDTURTLE, yea, I just saw that, didnt know he only for part of practice.

  • February 9, 2019 at 7:11 pm

    Can see what teams are going in what direction. Still a lot of games to be played. After teams were pretty much in same place for up 45ish games, until this long break every team had. We are now in the group of teams around .500 or so.

    OTT/COL- 8
    NWJ- 6
    DET- 6
    ANA- 5
    LA- 4
    CHI- 2
    ARI- 2
    EDM- 1
    VAN- 0
    COL- 0
    NYR- 0

  • February 9, 2019 at 7:16 pm

    Pretty much seeing STL taking COL spot, the 6 seed, with the COL collapse.
    MIN and DAL still being the 7 and 8 seed.

    Teams would need to get to that 5 over .500 area to make playoffs. With MIN injury, you would think they go down, but there still at plus 4. Though if those two teams stay there the 7 and 8 seed is that plus 5 area. Which is wheres its been since game 10.

  • February 9, 2019 at 7:24 pm

    WIN taking foot off gas, 5-2 blowout losses by MTL and OTT?
    OTT finally found a team they can beat, ANA and it got them up for WIN.
    COL must really hate OTT and ANA now.

    Biggest surprises
    -Knew COL could be good team this yr, not as good as plus 10 early on, but not collapse like they did, there just not ready yet.
    -STL, a top 10 roster with all those, give them a ticket to the finals moves this summer, and they are .500 for the irst 45 games, what? How can they sucked that bad that long. Now finally wakey wakey win 5 in a row and take the 6 seed form COL collapse.
    -CAL after getting team good for a couple yrs, makes move to top 5 team status.
    -NAS ans SAN donot give a shit about season record, they know whats its about.
    -TAM releasing anger for not showing up to play game 6, being up 3-2. Then after that donot show up to play game 7? No wonder why Yzerman person left, this is it for them.

    Pretty much everything else as expected.

  • February 9, 2019 at 7:32 pm

    Sounds like Hoffmeister has identified a new cardinal sin: passionately following one’s favorite hockey team! Yoiks!

    Be careful, Ebonyraptor–you too might be forced, against your will, to pen a letter to Ricky Wirtz!

  • February 9, 2019 at 7:34 pm

    Whoops–Rocky not Ricky.

  • February 9, 2019 at 8:15 pm

    Greyhawk, you and I are among the oldest at this website. I started following hockey in 1964. I can even hum the music to the Saturday night’s Hawks game (won’t try here), when they were on the road playing one of a possible five teams in their old arenas: Olympic Stadium in Detroit, Montreal Forum (damn Cup-hogging Canadiens), Maple Leaf Gardens, the old MSG, and Boston Gardens (pronounced Gahdens). You bring back so many memories with your excellent posts. For those highly critical of Bowman (me at times, as well), would you rather have a Tommy Ivan, who traded Espo, Stanfield, and Hodge, for your GM, or a Pulford? I went to a Sunday matinee game against St. Louis around 1972 and watching Jerry Korab punch the hell out a player. The Hawks won. Jim West, the worst announcer ever. I remember him saying about a player who had possession of the puck: “Dipsy doodling with the puck”. He was also an awful Cubs announcer.

    ER, it seems the big rivalry with Detroit is greatly diminished, likely because of the Hawks’ great success the past ten years. Winning it all several times cooled down our hatred. With both teams struggling of late, this tamps down the rivalry even more. I think our rivalry with the Blues is partly a result of the Cubs-Cardinals rivalry. The biggest rivalry the past 45 years has been Montreal-Boston. I have read about this and spoke to fans in Montreal and Boston.

  • February 9, 2019 at 8:17 pm

    I should have added that Saturday night’s Hawks game was televised.

  • February 9, 2019 at 8:45 pm

    A lot of my friend like BOS and they hate MTL. I would say the red sox taking over baseball has kept yankee people mouths shut for a good 15-20 yrs now.

    Like you said with winning so many Cups, the Blackhawks are now one of the 7 dynasty teams in the history of hockey.

    It has balanced out for these teams though. The yankees, canadians, red wings are basically done now. As those havnt won anything in a long time. Where the Bruins won the Cup/how many does MTL have in the last 45 yrs, the Red sox and the Blackhawks have dynastys and have taken over the sports during/how many does yankee and redwings have in 15 yrs, one combined.

    Even though those teams won the most in the sports,, they havnt won shit in last 25 yrs or longer (per say) and deserving teams like Red Sox, Bruins, and Blackhawks have had dynastys or won a Cup. Why, payrolls-salary cap, and being hard to win now then it was when those racked up every decade with disadvantage drafts/rosters/$.

  • February 9, 2019 at 8:50 pm

    I live in the area part of the yr and when you cross over the lake, Lake Champlain or are across the border into MASS/New England, you do not want to be wearing a NY hat in Maine,NH,MASS,RI in any town along the coast. Theyll tie you to a flag pole. I saw this one guy with a yankee hat on tied to a post 10 yrs ago in Portsmouth.

  • February 9, 2019 at 9:07 pm

    Prospects: Chl
    Beaudin 2a
    Gravel 16 saves 19 shots loss

    Coughlin 1g
    Barrett 1a

    Kubalik gwg in ot

    Gilbert 1g
    Carlsson 1g
    Raddysh 2a
    D. Sikura 1a
    Fortin 1a
    Forsberg 34 saves 38 shots loss

    Couple of incomplete games

  • February 9, 2019 at 9:43 pm

    Wall, where would you list these to each other, in how good and what they are good at/style sort of speak. Start with Bread Man for reference and maybe someone whos borderline NHL/like a scale of 1-10 using the players as the numbers.

    players list
    Bread Man

    Where do these guys fit in on the list/rank/how good/compare to

  • February 9, 2019 at 9:46 pm

    Row, say something intelligent for once about hockey. And now you attack others? Wow, Gustafson not Gutsav! Why do you make things up, is it to entertain yourself by trying to bash my opinions. Hey, go ahead, enjoy your own misinformation.
    Gustav was a canuck and Gustaf was an oiler, as I has always said, Clendening for Forsling, Gustaf as I call him was an Oiler but it’s ok I will humour you because you have absolutely nothing else to say.
    My opinon on Bowman reflects what he has done both well and not well. He drafted a good player in Danault and traded him for garbage. Drafted a great player in Teuvo and traded him, why? I said wayyyyyyy back the Nick Leddy trade from Minnesota was a good trade but then trading him for Pokka was awful. Why can’t you comment on that, on some of the awful trades he did make and how the free agent signings the last 3 years especially were embarassing. How he has never drafted a NHL calibre goalie? You know the questions and all you want to do is insult with your petty comments.
    We can blame players, coaches, owners but never Mr. Stan Bowman and his pro and amateur scouting staff for certain mistakes?
    Again, you are a boring read.
    And now you attack others on the message board who have different opinions. I answer questions, give my comments, good or bad, and like Curt Fraser, fight back if the personal insults creep in. But now you need help.
    So, since you will never answer any hockey questions, record your messages on vinyl and enjoy yourself. And if ever you find this Mikita dude, I hope you release all your childish anger in the washroom because it’s getting creepy.

    Original 6, I agree, that Esposito trade was brutal. Imagine what Espo and Hull would have accomplished together. Eddie O traded to Toronto was another one I did not like or understand. Chicago native, young and upcomimg star.
    I certainly never liked the JR trade to Arizona! As well as Belfour to San Jose!
    That was the demise of the Hawks until 2009-2010.
    One little bit of information, Tallon as a GM certainly made good trades! Ladd, Versteeg and Sharp were monumental for the Hawks at the time.
    Dzingel looked good tonight against the Jets! But maybe the pro scouts are watching a KHL or Czech league game tonight.
    Kane MVP

  • February 9, 2019 at 10:36 pm

    Original6, Thank you. Yup saw so much. My earliest memories were of Eddie Litzenberger believe it or not. Watching hockey and the Hawks I don’t like to miss a second. I bet we all feel the same. Not only miss a goal, but a great save, a great check, a great pass, anything can happen. For those who never saw Bobby Hull I don’t think anything compares to watching Bobby in his prime taking the cup from behind the net winding up and coming out of his zone full speed, blazing up ice with the Stadium roaring, skating past guys, and guys bouncing off of him and then ripping that blistering slap shot..a shot and a goal. It would go in the net so fast, u couldn’t see it. You’d see it coming out faster than most guys shooting a puck. I loved the fighters and slugfests and miss them but the game has changed for the better and I enjoy the game better today then ever. I’m so glad the league and refs have controlled those clutching and grabbing teams.

  • February 9, 2019 at 10:47 pm

    It’s now starting to look like MIN is the team to catch for the 2nd wild card the way STL is playing and considering the injury to Koivu

    MIN has 59 its in 55 games the Hawks 53 in 55 games – it’s gonna be a steep hill to climb and another team could get hot as well but not impossible

  • February 9, 2019 at 11:27 pm

    Thanks guys for the history, good reads. Does anyone remember, a Saturday afternoon game i think in which Bobby Hull fought John Ferguson with a broken jaw still wired and healing , remember seeing the hi-lites just like to hear your take.
    As bad as the Espo trade to Boston was, no excuses it was bad. Ivan did redeem himself a little by when he moved Marotte and getting Bill White. Plus when Norris bombed he was able to grab Tony O out of the Montreal organization.

    Chl Hagel 1a 8 shots 2nd star

    Ushl Slavin 1g 1a

  • February 9, 2019 at 11:57 pm

    Good vibes when older guys can talk about times like that/live memories from back in the day.

    Starting in the 20 season were getting our original collars back for the jersey.

    The league needs to get rid of these elementary names for the divisions and get them back to Norris and such.

  • February 10, 2019 at 1:26 am

    Greyhawk, I know you meant Bobby Hull taking the puck from behind the net (he should have had a cup), blazing up the ice, blowing past past defenders and cranking up for a rocket slap shot. Not only was it the hardest shot ever seen, but was amazingly accurate. He literally knocked goalies on their backs. Goalies interviewed expressed fear of his shot. His one-timer slap shots from a face-off were spectacular. Hull was also used a lot on the PK. He could kill time by playing keep-away with the puck from the other team. Unfortunately, the Hawks did not have enough depth to win a cup after ’61, compared to our recent teams.

    Today’s players, like in other sports, are better conditioned and more athletic. If K&T in their current condition played during the Hull and Mikita era, both would be reaching 100 points year-after-year in the 70-game season.

    I never liked fighting and wish the NHL would crack down more on cheap shots which cause concussions and other injuries. Many more boarding calls need to be made. Let skill win out over goonism.

  • February 10, 2019 at 1:54 am

    Those cross check boarding from behind/numbers should be new rule penalty, every time its from behind/numbers. Headshot need to be 20-80 game suspensions or they wont stop. It still can be violent action, for the people who whine about it would take it out of the game/its already weak, I read in the yahoo mail news paper comments from those dirty kind of teams.

    It would make game better and not cater to those cheap type of players. Make them pay the price, not the vip players in the league or any level of player in league. Instead of let them get away with it, even more. What kind of shit is that to tell people who watch the game/especially young people. Just have someone headshot and they wont be as good.

    Visualizing you talk about Hull coming up the ice and blasting slapshots is what hockey should be about. Not cater to the cheap players, like Perry.

  • February 10, 2019 at 2:07 am

    Another reason to not have instigator.

    Also get rid of this 4on4, when theres a fight. Both players have to sit in the box until next whistle. Its BS one of the teams could get an advantage and score goal just because of a fight. A fight, momentum yes ok, but only on 5on5. Always needs to be 5on5 unless its two separate penaltys at different times that overlap, can it be 4on4.

    Now for a real penalty and a real dive, that could be 4on4.

  • February 10, 2019 at 2:08 am

    There has been some back and forth about Strome and his current and future value to the team. Aside from Strome’s production on the ice, I liked some of the things Patrick Sharp has said about him on the pregame shows. Sharp is very high on Strome’s potential, and said he’s a real rink rat. Sharp said that things that stand out are Strome’s obvious passion for the game, his constantly asking questions of the vets, his obvious drive to always be getting better, his trying to learn what it took for the other guys to become champions, etc. I think we can all agree that a player with these traits is a good thing. Any young player with NHL talent (i.e. has made it to the big roster) and has these traits is someone who may well have not reached his ceiling yet.

    Perlini is obviously a better skater, but hasn’t produced. But aside from the brutal penalty he took against Vancouver has still played some decent minutes. I thought he did some good things in that game also. I’d love to see a guy with that kind of speed score another goal or two and get some confidence. Does anyone think it might be good for him to be in Rockford for awhile to get that confidence going? Maybe in the process bring up a Rockford forward who’s earned a shot? Maybe there’s not a Rockford player that really fits in a swap for Perlini right now in terms of what line he might play on? Just wondering what folks think.

  • February 10, 2019 at 5:48 am

    Salary cap
    Transition/first to worst
    Worst to first

    Let’s get it on!

  • February 10, 2019 at 5:51 am

    Just wait until Strome has that veteran patience with the puck. He already has it, going to be sweet to see it in prime yrs.

  • February 10, 2019 at 6:23 am

    Ian to me Strome is a hockey player and a good one that’s only going to get better. He’s been an integral part of the power play and team revival. He’s what 21. The 3rd pick in a loaded draft. You don’t think the scouts already knew he had a lack of speed. He was well scouted. Anyone watching can see his vision, smarts, positioning, puck handling, passing, size and reach which more than make up for a lack of speed. Speed only gets you so far. Where’s Fortin right now. All of hockey knew Strome had it in him. He needed confidence. The sky’s the limit with this kid. You think Bowman gave up Schmaltz to give this kid away? He’ll be here a long time.

  • February 10, 2019 at 6:43 am

    Oops my reply on Strome was meant for Big Indian. Sorry.

    Ian, I totally recall Ferguson hitting Bobby that game. He was his shadow and a filthy player. There’s a cool poster of Bobby after that hit by Ferguson. I liked the tough guys but hated the goons like Ferguson and Bryan Bugsy Watson, I actually thought the Hawks had enough for another Cup back in the day but it wasn’t for lack of depth. I hated their style (Billy Reay) of sitting on a lead. Plus I hate to say it but Tony O as great as he was and a true HOF never had the hot streak to win a Cup. That’s the crazy thing in hockey, you can be a better team in front of your goalie but in the end he’s your wall. I’ve always said it’s not how many pucks u stop but when u stop them. A goalie gets on a hot streak out of the blue sometimes and he becomes inpregnable all the way to a Cup.

  • February 10, 2019 at 6:57 am

    Hey thanks Morrison. I was afraid I might be boring you guys with my memories. Glad I’m not. That what’s so great and emotional about hockey. The players respect those who came before them and honor them. 20-30 years from now you’ll be talking to new generations telling them you saw Toews, Kane, Keith, Craw, Seabs, etc. and love telling the kids what they were like.

  • February 10, 2019 at 7:14 am

    Saw the Hull/Ferguson fight live on TV if that counts

  • February 10, 2019 at 8:09 am

    Greyhawk agree league much better stressing skill and return to goon hockey or broad street bully days wouldn’ t be welcome. You mention bugsy Watson, i remember an interview with Hull and him saying Wstson was toughest shadow he ever faced.
    Accountability again is needed though, too many times today playees take cheap shots and liberties with no fear of retribution. Thats my definition of a coward or lack of courage, when players only do those things knowing the won’t be called out, if that fear of payback was in them, most bail and run away.

  • February 10, 2019 at 8:15 am

    Great nostalgic posts- better than the ones where “I know more than you”!
    Growing up in the Ottawa Valley in the 50’s and 60’s my family and friends were mostly Habs or Leafs fans! Then there’s me with my “rebel” Glenn Hall #1 jersey amongst the diehards. You brought back so many great memories- and some stories I would never have known because it was Habs-Leafs-Habs-Leafs on tv all the time, en francais pours les Canadiens de Montreal!

  • February 10, 2019 at 8:19 am

    That’s cool- I think Strome could be the 81 replacement for the next decade or so… just don’t sign him to a 10 year NMC contract

  • February 10, 2019 at 8:22 am

    Agreed Ian. I was so happy this guy Tom
    Wilson got laid out a few weeks back. The guy is a pretty good hockey player but he’s a cheap shot artist. One of the worst. The worst I’ve scene recently was that Raffi Torres a-hole. Glad he’s gone. He had no business in the league playing that way. I loved those Canucks and Blues rivalries with us a few years ago tho. It got my old juices flowing.

  • February 10, 2019 at 8:46 am

    Great nostalgic discussion. Love it. I have to admit that I liked old time hockey when it was sometimes described as “going to a fight and a hockey game broke out”. But that was before all the tinkering the NHL did which eventually ended up with all the clutch and grab and the staged “our goon fights you goon” hockey. The olden days had it’s fair share of nasty hockey to be sure – my favorite player was Chico Maki and his brother Wayne had a very nasty incident way back then – but the physicality and fights were symbiotic with the game – it was not a side show. Justice was meted out on the ice by the players and that worked very well for a long time before the NHL prioritized going mainstream and thought they needed to eliminate the Neanderthal part of the game.

    But, the speed and skill game of today is great and I although it’s fun to look back I don’t actually miss those days.

  • February 10, 2019 at 8:50 am

    GlennHall, man I was wondering about your name. That’s great! We old timers remember just the original 6. So imagine just playing against 5 teams the entire season. You really got to know each and every player and coach. I loved watching the Habs play. Loved their style. So many legends. Personified greatness and class. Plante, Beliveau, Cournoyer, Laperierre, Lafleur, Dryden, Rousseau. The Leafs, watching Frank Mahavolich busting up wing. What a force, Kelly, Armstrong, Pat Quinn, Pully, the goofy Eddie Shack, Bobby Baun. Seriously u got to know every player from every team.

  • February 10, 2019 at 9:16 am

    Ian, overlooked your post on Ferguson attacking Bobby Hull with his wired jaw. I saw that game. Ferguson was called “The Policeman”, one of the goons of the 1960s. Seems like just yesterday when Hull took a puck to the jaw. He had to sip liquid food through a straw for quite a while but was still able to play at high level.

    Greyhawk, that’s right, we became very familiar with players from just five other teams. I thought it was odd that Cournoyer, who shot left, played RW. Now it’s so common that players play the opposite wing, like 88. Ken Dryden played out of his mind to deny the Hawks a cup in 1971. For me, winning in 2010 helped erase this painful memory. Always hated the Canadiens but admired their smooth finesse style of play, led by the great Beliveau. Am no longer hating them, considering that they haven’t won a cup since ’93. Looks like they are getting their act together.

  • February 10, 2019 at 9:23 am

    Personified greatness and class – great definition for Jean Beliveau. I was living out in the boonies in northern Wisconsin and the guy who owned a resort down the road from us was Beliveau’s cousin. He stayed at the resort for a week one summer (mid 60’s) and I got to meet him and he was the nicest guy. Took time to talk with my brother and me and we were only kids.

  • February 10, 2019 at 10:13 am

    Grey – Thanks for the post on Strome. It reads pretty accurately. As I have stated a few times I still think he is growing into his body and I think he has huge upside. I see him as a long term core guy on this team. By the way, Kotkiemi on the Habs was taken with the 3rd pick last year and he is no McDavid in terms of skating either.

  • February 10, 2019 at 10:33 am

    Interesting article on Strome, definitely seeing that potential now, should be a keeper for a few years

    Greyhawk often hear that comment from friends who don’t follow hockey like they used to. Knew every player on every team back then but too mamy now.
    The lines with nicknames is something i miss too. Production line, Scooter line, GAG ( goal a game) line , French Connection line etc. Some creative names.

  • February 10, 2019 at 12:25 pm

    Snuggerrud on unconditional waivers today. Likely a sad end to his career in the Blackhawks organization that has been devastated by injuries.

  • February 10, 2019 at 12:54 pm

    Personified greatness and class about Jean Beliveau. Reminds me of videos and storys you hear about Stan Makita. You who I see in these guys, is a still young dude they call Jonathan Toews, reminds me of them/the person-player.

  • February 10, 2019 at 1:08 pm

    I can totally see what Bowman’s strategy is now with this trade for KooKoo. It’s part of his new strategy. He’s looking to accumulate very high drafted players with great scouting reports and for whatever have not planned out with their teams. Taking a shot on them could provide huge dividends. Other than last year with the eighth pick in the draft and scouting passed over Europeans, he’s really looking for a possible high return by doing this. It’s another way to get a possible stud. Check this report out on Slater K.

  • February 10, 2019 at 1:40 pm

    Is Entwistle still injured? I don’t recall seeing him on the scoreboard for a couple weeks and he’s got nothing today with Guelph up 4-0 after 1.

  • February 10, 2019 at 2:25 pm


    Regarding. ..
    Kurashev … poormans Backstrom, excellent skater, NHL speed, strong

    Kubalik very good IQ, excellent vision, excellent one timer… like left handed Panarin on one timer, can make passes on backhand

    Kaliyev… Hossa like release and half slapper, accurate and heavy shot
    Sniper like Taresenko… love to find soft spots between circles… poormans Malkin?

    On both- Kubalik and Kaliyev
    I honestly have NOT seen enough of their skating to call them locks… but if they are better than average skaters… they will both have very solid NHL careers.

  • February 10, 2019 at 2:37 pm

    Danault type… uses speed to always make things happen… better shot than Danault. .. might be faster skater too… Danault probably tougher on boards and better non stop motor than Kurashev.

  • February 10, 2019 at 2:49 pm

    Wall, who is Kaliyev? Are you talking about the 17 year old that will be in the 2019 draft?

  • February 10, 2019 at 3:41 pm

    My question on Entwistle has been answered – he scored a goal in the 9-0 Guelph win today.

    Boqvist with a goal and 2 assists in the 3-6 loss by London today.

  • February 10, 2019 at 3:47 pm

    ER- yes- that Kaliyev

    Knock on the kid is- Only likes to play on O side of puck… Dis-interested on the D side… and some say he is average skater…

    On both Kubalik and Kaliyev… I have NOT seen enough in game action (just lot’s of Video in O zone/Hilites) … so it is hard to make opinions on skating (which is a really big part of Hockey)… 2ndly- it’s hard to make skating comparisons when they are versus Jr’s/and Non NHL guys anyways…

    But- I love what I see in hilites… both possess great/accurate one timers and
    Kaliyev- just scores goals!!!! Lot’s of them for his 16/17 year old year’s!!!

    Kubalik- looks like he sees the game at High/NHL level

  • February 10, 2019 at 3:59 pm

    With this many good FW coming eventually. We could have that 20/64/91 checking line and have 3 good scoring lines once were to full roster. Thats deep.

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