Blackhawks Trade Daniel Carcillo To LA
The Chicago Blackhawks have reportedly traded forward Daniel Carcillo to the LA Kings for a draft pick.
In two seasons with the Hawks, Carcillo scored four goals and added 10 assists with 93 penalty minutes in 51 regular season games. He played in four postseason games in 2013, registering one assist.
The team also announced a one-year deal with defenseman Ryan Stanton on Tuesday.
I love Stan Bowman.
Awesome,this teams getting better and better
Getting anything in return for Carcillo is a steal. Regardless of what the pick is, this opens a roster spot at forward, so now Smith, Morin, Hayes, and Pirri can all be on the Hawks roster.
What about Drew Leblanc?
The name to watch in camp will be Phillip Danault. He’s got a great shot to make this team at Center. I’m not a Brandon Pirri fan, despite his likability and some of his skill set.
Danault I like a lot. And he can win a job.
JS, I agree…
Ratboy, you are right…
Tails, this was the plan all along…now only one more move…trade Brookbank, which Bowman has been trying to do for almost 2 weeks now.
Pete, LeBlanc is a player, but he will have to have a huge camp to win a spot…
Rufus, we will see…Danault is a special kid, and he has the ability to make the team…he looked a little lost in Rockford in his 3 games at the end of last year, but he had to have been out of gas, and 3 teams in one year is a bit much…plus his prospect camp experience showed him to be one of our very best prospects…its possible.
Tab, Stanton’s contract has to be a one way deal, correct? One year, Bowman must be saying to Ryan, this is your chance to become a Blackhawk, go for it…
I think Stanton will make a very good NHL stay-at-home DMan…
Thanks Tab
So Sr, are you predicting a Brookbank trade for a very low draft pick and then Clendening is rotated in and out of the lineup as the 7th defenseman?
Pete- it is more likely that Stan is trying to move BBank- and either/both Clendening/Stanton are rotated in as 7th Dman…
Danault- great skater- better D than Pirri- but Pirri does have a couple years on him…
the wildcard is LeBlanc- he has some serious IQ/Puck possession skills- but how well does he skate??? and Looked a little lost on D side
Stanton would be the rotation piece if Brookbank is moved. Clendening has too bright if a future to put in that sort of role. He’ll play at Rockford.
Yeah, Pete, I think Rufus and Wall are correct…Stanton becomes the 7th rotational guy and in a perfect world he plays about 40 games, getting lots of valuable experience and Rozy a lot of rest.
I personally think Clendening is ready, but based on Bowman’s off season moves, its clear he wants Adam back at Rockford this year…but I think Clendening will get a taste, he is simply too good not to…in 2014-15 Clendening is here full time IMO.
In my line up I was asked….was what about Carcillo and Brookbank because I demoted them. One down…..One to go. Nothing against either player. They just do not fit into the Hawks system.
What surprises me a little is that SB put Frolik and Carcillo on WC teams. Not many GMs have the nads to do that. Particularly Frolik. I am sure SB knows that Fro will flourish on the Jets.
Im with brad on this one… move BBank, bring up Stanton. Clendening comes up the following year.
I know there’s a logjam of talent that’s been in the system a while,m but I also am keeping an eye on LeBlanc. Don’t discount the college route…
Carcillo to LA is putting him in a different division next year. Teams will only be playing each time outside of their division twice, correct?
Does it matter? It’s Dan Carcillo. He will either be hurt or a healthy scratch.
I’m also interested to know if Stanton’s deal is one way. I imagine they might have to eat some of Brookbank’s salary to trade him? Then again, he is probably a servicable 6th D Man on most teams.
I wondered about the 2 year deal to resign Carcillo when it was announced. I love this move as a way to take on some salary at the trade deadline. The Blackhawks are strategically positioned to give themselves another shot at the Cup next year (we don’t have to worry about last year because the Blackhawks are Stanley Cup Champions…I love saying that).
I agree that moving Brookbank looks like it should happen. Like JS says he has been a serviceable 6th Dman in the past…maybe someone else will take a flyer on him.
It will be interesting to see what this D-Corp looks like in 2 years time. It just seems like we have a lot of similar players in the Minors/Last year of College that resemble Leddy/Oduya/Hammer and maybe even Seabrook. Keith is different and I just believe he will finish his contract a Hawk.
Glad the time is up for him here. Nothing against him, but he simply is not skilled enough to have a roster spot here. he was unable to crack the lineup, you gotta move him.
Peter, Hawks are in a great position for the next few years. Cap goes up a lot Hawks can maintain their core and have lots of value to trade. If Cap stays pretty steady, lots of young guys ready to move up and protect the cap. Anything can happen but the Hawks should be in a position to go deep in the playoffs for the next 4 or 5 years.
There is no question the the Scotty Bowman theory of how to operate a hockey club is front and center with the Hawks. SB is a genius for following closely in his dad’s footsteps.
Danault is not ready to be in the nhl to me. I would much rather see hayes/pirri/morin/smith or even LeBlanc
Clendening will be ready if/when the Hawks don’t resign Hjalmarsson…?
I always like the idea of Carcillo rather then I actually liked Carcillo if that makes sense. It was clear from day 1 that his condition and speed weren’t going to be a good fit on the Hawks and I m pretty sure he didnt dress for a single playoff game which was a good indicator right there on how much the team valued him moving forward. Stan got value for him and opend up a roster spot which is great, kidos to Stan!
The Hawks are so smoothly run its almost scary. Look back at the 2010 cup winning team, Bickell was slowly rotated into that group, Crowford was “with the team” although he wasnt on the roster. Clearly the Hawks have done the same thing w Ben Smith and Stanton. Good teams (like the championship Wings teams) have done the same thing. Clearly the Bowmans have the blue print and have simply taken it from stop to stop.
I’m excited about next seasons team, it will be a good mix of young kids and established players which should help the Hawks contender for back to back cups which is nearly unheard of these days. I really hope Stan and Co lean on the minor league systems cause there is alot of talent there.
I sounds like Pirri is going to have 1st chance at the 2C role, but if he doesnt earn it sounds like LeBlanc and Danault will have a crack at it. I think for Danault he will most likely not be on the team barring injury. LeBlanc however might be if the Hawks see him as an NHL player.
From what I’ve read it sounds like Ben Smith and Pirri have 1st chance at the 2 now open roster spots. The fact the Joel played Smith in a Stanley Cup finals game tells this Hawks fan he is really close. Then its going to be the best man out of the following group. Morin, Jimmy Hayes, and Danult and LeBlanc.
As for the defense eveyone is back so it appears that Stanton and Brookbank will rotate for the 7th d-man and the chance to spell Rosey which is very very smart. Rosey has nothing to prove keep him fresh for the very important minutes in April and May. If Brookbank doesnt get traded, I think Olsen and Clandening will both get long looks. Clandening b/c he is ahead of schedule and Olsen because he is behind schedule. I’ve always liked Olsen I really hope he can get his game together!
I’m of the school of thought that Brookbank will be gone by Halloween & Stanton will be the 7th defenseman. Clendening’s progress will determine if/when Hjalmarsson/Oduya becomes available (if they want to keep Hjalmarsson, Oduya becomes a movable asset). Olsen needs to knock their socks off to get back into the conversation for NHL ice time as a member of the Blackhawks; he was a huge disappointment last year.
Tab I agree about Olsen. Nervous, maybe. Trying not to make a mistake, certainly. But he seemed not to be playing well at all. I think when young guys get their chance they have to play hard and intense. They will make mistakes. Play hard and the mistakes are easy to overlook. Olsen showed little of anything. His career depends a lot on the next few months.
Still haven’t seen a round #… but the pick is being reported as a 2015 pick.
More long term flexibility!
Great comments Peter, JS, Ryan, Tab, Mike, SSHM…Tab I think you are right about Oduya…he and Rozy are the next “to go” as Clendening’s style fits Oduya’s game (with a lot more upside and value) and Stanton fits Rozy’s game. Dahlstrom and Dahlbeck fit Hammer’s game to a T…
Peter, you are right, in 2 or 3 years time, we could have a lot of our D replaced and we will not skip a beat…Stanton, Clendening, Dahlstrom, Johns, Holl are all going to be good NHL DMen…I have no doubt about this…I think Dahlbeck will be as well…so Keith and Seabrook or Keith and Hammer may be the only 2 DMen still here in a few years. Notice how I did not include Olsen. As Mike, SSHM and Tab alluded to, unless Olsen has a BIG bounce back year in Rockford, he will go the way of the do-d0 and Kyle Beach…he was really up and down last season…at times he was painful to watch. A guy that quietly had a good year in Rockford was Shawn LaLonde. Much better defensively, and very consistent with his offensive/puck moving game. If Shawn improves off of that, then he has to be given a shot or traded…Shawn has paid his dues.
Mike as you have said before, the 2 great benefits of Scotty’s system is that you always manage the salary cap, and you always have mature AHL players (Stanton, Morin, Smith) ready to come up and not skip a beat…the great thing about the kids who go the route of the AHL, is that they are ready to play playoff-like hockey from the get go…and you are also right, it accounts for the shortcoming in Leddy’s game…he needed to spend more time in Rockford and figure out how to deal with the physicality…this is how I KNOW that Clendening is ready…watching his last 6 AHL games last season, he, Pirri and Ben Smith were the best players on the ice. At times he looked like a Man amongst boys…and he was a rookie. I honestly think Clendening will make us forget Andrew Ladd.
I know there is a lot of uncertainty on this board about the AHL’ers coming up this season, but I have none. Smith was incredible when he returned from his injury and was essentially a PPG player…Pirri led the AHL in scoring at 21 and was a +11 playing against the top lines. Morin has learned to skate and play a complete game, and Stanton is a VERY GOOD, physical stay-at-home DMan. All 4 of them have put on a lot of muscle, and are strong players on the puck, which benefits our puck possession game. I said it a while back and I repeat it here, this coming season will feature the best 4 line rotation that Hawks have ever fielded.
re: moving Rozsival & Oduya – Oduya has a modified NMC, and Rozsival has clauses for both years of his new deal. So the player(s) would need to sign-off on a deal out of town.
Sr Brad….Beach has been resigned for 1 year. His last shot I am guessing.
Tim, Hawks got a 6th round pick for Carcillo. IF Carcillo plays in 40 games the Hawks will get LAs 5th round pick. Fat chance of that. Not sure what LA wants with Carbomb.
I agree with Brad that we’ll probably only have 2-3 of our current defensemen a couple down the road: Keith, Seabrook/Hammer, and maybe Leddy. Keith is a lock. I think the Hawks will keep whoever is better out of Seabrook and Hammer. Last year it was Hammer, but every year before that it was Seabrook. We’ll keep Leddy if he keeps progressing, and he doesn’t price himself off the team. I have a hard time seeing Oduya or Rozsival being on the Hawks longer than the two years they are currently signed for.
I’m disappointed that Carcillo had the two knee injuries and wasn’t able to play his best. Prior to those injuries he had enough speed and game to be an effective player and he looked to be making a concerted effort to avoid the stupid penalties. Too bad it didn’t work out and I hope he can get his leg strength back and speed back. If he does he can still be an effective pest and can find a place on a team. I wish him well.
I was checking out salary cap geek and they are listing Krugers deal at 1.3 I hadn’t seen the numbers anywhere else so I wanted to share w the site which leaves the Hawks at about 2 million in cap space not including Stanton deal which I’m not sure was a 1 way or 2 way deal.
Mike, in fairness to Beach, he had a much better season last year, and for the first time, began to look like a complete hockey player…let’s see if he can put things together this year.
Nothing against Beach. Hawks are / were very high on him. Not sure what happened to his “game”. Some said he expected to be in the NHL after 30 or 40 games in the AHL. Lost his desire, got hurt or whatever. Bottom line: work your ass off in the AHL and management will overlook most mistakes. Go 85% in the AHL and you will never see the big show.
Yep
Just read a stinging article about Beach in the Bleacher Report….sorry, don’t know how to transfer the link.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1707809-chicago-blackhawks-coming-to-terms-with-the-enigma-that-is-kyle-beach
There is the URL of the article Mike was referencing.
I think the best scenerio regarding Beach is he plays consistantly and doesn’t Peak too soon. Last season he had a quick start, but then leveled off just as quickly. I think he needs to grind night in, night out and rack up a statline around 2-3 points every 4-6 games. If he can do that, I feel like he can make himself attractive enough to catch the eye of a team, warrent a trade, and ulitmatly be a Bottom 6 player on an NHL team. He still has that top-15 talent that got him drafted, but hes just not going to get that chance in Chicago barring catastrophic injury issues.
Lets go over/under on number of years Brown plays more than 65 games a year for his new 8 year deal at about 5.875 per for the Kings. I’ll set the bar at 4 years. I think 4 years is all he will play at 65 or more games a year the way he throws his body around…
Dollars might be about right, but the years…ouch Kings. What is going to happen when they want to name Kopitar or Richards Captain next year…
great article on Beach, it would be nice to give him some NHL games and try to flip him into something, even if it doesnt work out here. I feel the same way about Shawn Lalonde too and Olsen is getting to be in that same category unless he figures it out soon. I’d wouldnt surprise me if another NHL gm takes a chance on him(Beach). Rusty Oleasz got signed by NJ. You’d have to think Beach has as much if not more upside then him Rusty.
Tab, I know there has been some speculation on the the future of Sheldon Brookbank, I was on the website and they had Brookbank’s status and Rosival’s status as not being on the team.
What can you tell us?
SSHM, when Olescz finally got a chance to play this season at Rockford, he tore it up…that’s why he got that contract from NJ…the Devils are hoping his knee is now 100% healthy after 2 years of essentially convalescing in Chicago. Beach has NEVER shown a professional run in his career like Rusty had in his 17 games this past year.
For players like LaLonde, Beach, Olsen…it doesn’t matter where they were drafted any longer…not when the new GM has drafted like a wiz behind them. Ben Smith was thrown into the SC finals without any warning because the Hawks are SURE of his game. Beach hasn’t even been given a sniff because the Hawks are also SURE of his game. He has 1 year to WOW…this past season, Beach was actually pretty good mostly on the 3rd line with a centre(s) that simply couldn’t score this past season. But that isn’t good enough, and not because he is a former #11 overall pick, but because average doesn’t begin to describe Ben Smith, Brandon Pirri, Jeremy Morin, Jimmy Hayes, Phillip Danault, Mark McNeil, TT, Hartman, Kevin Hayes, etc, etc, etc.
This organization is now so deep and so well run, Beach is getting BURIED under a massive weight of guys who can play…its time for Kyle to become a beast or to go, its really that simple.
IMO Tallon’s drafts were incredible guessing games…he got lucky a couple of times (Hammer, Buff, Brouwer), but missed an incredible amount of time…Toews and Kane were simply manna from heaven. Short of those 2 gifts, Tallon had a HORRIBLE record at drafting.
Finally, look at Marcus Kruger and Andrew Shaw…2 fifth round picks…neither had ANY real publicity before or after they were selected by Chicago…neither possesses skills or talents (other than skating) that Beach doesn’t or can’t have…and yet both have contributed to the Hawks almost from the git go…WHY?
They have HEART, Beach has shown very, very little and there’s no one for Kyle to blame but himself.