Blackhawks Trade Scott Darling To Carolina

As the second round of the NFL Draft started in Philadelphia, the Chicago Blackhawks snuck in some player movement of their own.

Chicago traded goaltender Scott Darling, set to become an unrestricted free agent this summer, to the Carolina Hurricanes for a third round draft pick in this summer’s NHL Draft.

Darling, 28, put together a very good resume while playing for his hometown Blackhawks. He posted a 39-17-9 record with a career .923 save percentage, 2.37 goals against average and four shutouts over three seasons in Chicago.

106 thoughts on “Blackhawks Trade Scott Darling To Carolina

  • April 28, 2017 at 6:34 pm

    me too! what a class human being: probably would have one less cup without him bailing out crow vs nashville.

    wish you well scott!

  • April 28, 2017 at 6:38 pm

    Good luck scott! Thanks for the memories

  • April 28, 2017 at 6:41 pm

    We got zero value here but an rfa. Did we even consider trading CC and keeping darling?

  • April 28, 2017 at 6:45 pm

    WTF is Demo talking about? Zero value? The Hawks just got a 3rd round pick for a UFA without having to guarantee Carolina that he would sign. That’s robbery.

  • April 28, 2017 at 6:46 pm

    Agree with Demo’s comment — should have gotten rid of Crawford and kept Darling. Crawford way too inconsistent for many years.

  • April 28, 2017 at 6:49 pm

    Great move. To get that high of a pick for a guy who’s a unrestricted free agent.
    Question though does this pick go to Dallas because of the Oduya trade. 4rd with the condition of it becoming a 3rd pick.
    I believe the hawks 3rd pick was sent to Det for Jurco.

  • April 28, 2017 at 6:50 pm

    Tab agree 1000%. This signifies Crawford remains put, thank goodness. Bowman identified as I set forth after Hawks were eliminated Crawford must stay. He is a proven big-game goalie, his contract is a bargain. The Hawks’ best player during the short-lived debacle.

    Bowman is well aware Kruger and that absurd cap hit must go if Vegas doesnt select him.

  • April 28, 2017 at 6:51 pm

    Brian – buy a television. watch a game.

  • April 28, 2017 at 6:51 pm


    Anything after round 1 in an NHL draft is a low odds crapshoot and you know it.

  • April 28, 2017 at 6:54 pm

    LOL…”inconsistent”….ahhhahaha…good stuff. Somewhere a village is missing their…

  • April 28, 2017 at 6:56 pm

    Dollars being equal maybe I keep Crow over Darling but if I can save 2million and sign a gritty forward like Panik why not trade Crow?

  • April 28, 2017 at 7:02 pm

    I like Panik. He had a great season but I wouldn’t give up Crawford for him. If they can’t extend Panik move him for picks or a young d man.

  • April 28, 2017 at 7:03 pm

    I want to live in a non-reality scenario with Demo. Can anybody make that happen?

    “Dollars being equal” isn’t real life. Crawford is under contract w/ a NMC. Darling is 2 months from becoming a UFA. Thy got a 3rd round pick for a guy who was going to walk.

    Hate to break it to you, Demo, but this is a good trade when you replace the beer goggles w/ common sense

  • April 28, 2017 at 7:09 pm

    Hard to believe some of the comments. To get a third round draft pick for an IF A was great. I’ll miss Darling he was a good guy.

  • April 28, 2017 at 7:10 pm

    Definitely a great move getting a 3rd round pick out of ufa walking and no return. Wish him well and hope it works out for him.

  • April 28, 2017 at 7:12 pm

    Tend to agree Tab , be interesting if he does to see if goes alone or in a package.

  • April 28, 2017 at 7:24 pm

    Prediction: we struggle to make the playoffs next year

  • April 28, 2017 at 7:42 pm

    Yes wish Darling all the best and he was a good guy but CC is proven and this is a steal for a UFA. It’s like a free pick

    Sea Dogs win in dominate fashion out shooting Chicoutimi 52-23 and winning 4-0. Noel had a great game with a goal and an assist and lots of key face offs and PP and PK time. Highmore was ok and made a few nice passes but Noel was better

  • April 28, 2017 at 8:07 pm

    Tough to see him go, and he may end up being the best goalie in the NHL next year, but Tab is right, Darling was going to walk. You could see it in his eyes and words if you watched his exit interview. He said that he thinks he’s ready to be a number one. We’ll see.

  • April 28, 2017 at 8:08 pm

    Sorry to see Darling go. It always makes me feel good to see Chicago born players do well in the NHL.

  • April 28, 2017 at 8:43 pm

    That “inconsistency,” Brian, got the Hawks 2 Cups in 2013 and 2015.

  • April 28, 2017 at 8:45 pm

    Luctor Et Emergo

  • April 28, 2017 at 8:45 pm

    GREAT TRADE by our cry baby GM Mr. BOWMAN.

    A 3rd round pick for a career back up goalie. Darling a nice guy with a nice story.

  • April 28, 2017 at 8:50 pm

    NEXT: Fire Pierre Gauthier (Mr. I gut every team’s prospects in the minors as a pro scout) and Mark Kelley (Mr. I am the worse scout in NHL who never travels to CANADA and has not drafted a starting Dman or left winger since HAMMER and SAAD) …wait ? Did he actually draft anybody in the lineup?

  • April 28, 2017 at 8:52 pm

    THANK GOD CRAWFORD is staying. Now, draft a future goalie to take his place one day!!!

    Ask KANE about the 2013 and CRAWFORD? Ask TOEWS about after a two game slip up, CRAWFORD’s performance against ANAHEIM and TAMPA..better yet ask GETZLAF and STANMKOS!!!

  • April 28, 2017 at 8:57 pm

    Hire a real up coming coach with pedigree to coach ROCKFORD. And hire a real scout and pro scout whom looks at CANADIAN players a little more and stops the quick fix KHL, EUROLEAGUES, and free agent College player signings that show the laziness of this management team lead by spoiled little brat and Mr. ACCOUNTANT who got TALLON fired for not faxing documents to NHL offfice on time. Get RICK DUDLEY BACK NOW. And add DEAN LOMBARDI to replace Mr. SCOTTY LOUD MOUTH BOWMAN!

  • April 28, 2017 at 8:58 pm

    Hire a real up coming coach with pedigree to coach ROCKFORD. And hire a real scout and pro scout whom looks at CANADIAN players a little more and stops the quick fix KHL, EURO LEAGUES, and free agent College player signings that show the laziness of this management team lead by spoiled little brat and Mr. ACCOUNTANT who got TALLON fired for not faxing documents to NHL office on time. Get RICK DUDLEY BACK NOW. And add DEAN LOMBARDI to replace Mr. SCOTTY BOWMAN!

  • April 28, 2017 at 9:01 pm

    Crawford is a proven elite goaltender, tbat is a given, he has carried the team many times on his back. Wonder what anybody would think of a Panik/Kruger to CBJ for defenseman Ryan Murray and backup goalie Joonis Korpisalo. With one of alot of young forwards under contract slated for Rockforf that could be used if necessary too if needed. Make for tight cap but possible with 22man roster in the 75.5 range.

  • April 28, 2017 at 9:39 pm

    He was saying this crap a few days ago as well, Mudturtle. In fact, he doesn’t know his draft history.

  • April 28, 2017 at 10:00 pm

    At least they got something for Darling. Obviously they couldn’t keep both goalies. The Hawks just got weaker at the goalie position.

  • April 28, 2017 at 11:19 pm

    Panik may have to go but he was one of the few players with size and sandpaper to his game. This team needs to get harder to play against-not softer.
    Loved Darling-the person. Off to the Carolina Blackhawks.
    Erie up 3-2, but D-Cat scoring streak over.

  • April 28, 2017 at 11:27 pm

    Agree with Tab. Panik had a career year but I doubt he’s capable of duplicating it. He scored 20 goals but he’s a crash and bang guy. Look at Matt Belesky.

    I wish Darling the best…but I honestly don’t know what Carolina was thinking.

    To Demo… round 1 is a crapshoot. Being a hawks fan you should know that. The more picks you have the higher probability of one hitting. Darling couldn’t be kept. Crawford had to be protected. If he waives his nmc there are a lot of other goalies teams would like to get rid of.

  • April 29, 2017 at 12:51 am

    Yeah ,all we gotta do now is,.,.,.,.get Crawford to score goals and take faceoffs .
    I do not like the deal .,.at all,.,.,.,.,.,. We gave him away . The Hawks are in a tail spin ,.,fire him,.., give that away ,.,.,STOP . Hawks havent done 1 thing right all April long .
    Darling has been 1 of the best goalies in the n.h.l. period . The stats do not lie ,.,.do they Ernie . Very troubling , Management grasping for straws . Move 1 of the albatross signings ,.,.,a contract that will have an imitate impact ,.,.to hard to do for our incompetent managers . The managerial vision is gone from our team ,caught in the .Situation Normal ,stagnation ahead mode . Trade or let go of someone who is not a viable asset to the team .

  • April 29, 2017 at 1:02 am

    Tab: why not keep Panik ? He is one of the few players Hawks have who is very physical .

    Why do u think they will move him ? Too expensive to sign ?

  • April 29, 2017 at 2:19 am

    Were going to win a 4th Stanley Cup.

    What ever it takes.

  • April 29, 2017 at 5:12 am

    It Remind me when Habs trade Hallak and decide to keep Price after Hallak did everything he in the goal for Habs ….people in Mtl where so upset that they keep Price at the time ….but 2-3 years later …where is Hallak ??
    Wish Darling a nice career in NHL but we will see what he can do with the new teamin the next 2-4 years. similar situation we had with Niemi a few years ago ….Craw is cheap and Solid in Goal …good move to get that third choice for nothing ….just to transfer him to carolina….Very good move .

  • April 29, 2017 at 6:36 am

    Stan pulled off a Theo like trade for Darling. There was no way under the hawks cap situation that signing darling was ever going to happen. Add to it the no trade clause, along with his salary, his age and that means moving Crawford is not happening. Getting a 3rd round pick was brilliant. Anyone that thinks Stan doesn’t know what he’s doing is living in a suspended reality of hockey dumb.

  • April 29, 2017 at 7:45 am

    Blackhawks have been very fortunate to have Crawford as number one guy and extremely fortunate to have Darling as his backup (Captain Obvious speaking here). But UFA Darling could not stay, can’t pay two #1 goalies, and off he goes to get his shot. As stated, best of luck to a great guy!

    Just one of a few moves to be cap compliant, gather some picks, etc. Interesting prediction, Tab, about Panik. Provided a lot during this past season but maybe because of that he brings the most value of guys that can be moved. I like him but they gotta do what they gotta do.

    Go Blackhawks!!!!

  • April 29, 2017 at 8:38 am

    Peter Budaj put up some numbers when he was with the Kings last year.

    Budaj- 52 games 2.12 GAA .917 save%
    Darling-32 games 2.34 GAA .924 save %

    I’m kind of with Wall. You don’t pay a goalie. And you don’t do what the Stars did and pay 2 goalies.

    You don’t pay a guy that scored 20 goals after doing almost nothing the previous couple of years. Someone will pay Eaves way too much. Someone will pay Panik too much. Someone paid Bickell too much. Ditto Beleskey. Nice guys to have. But only for the right price.

  • April 29, 2017 at 9:02 am

    I said this last week and I’ll repeat it. I believe Stan’s next chance to redeem his boss’s full confidence in him would be to “own the draft” in Chicago.

    Right now the Hawks have 10 picks. I would imagine Stan will be gunning for even more, so that when McDonough watches things unfold on draft weekend in late June, he sees the Hawks “dominating”

    For at least that weekend, there will be positive publicity. McDonough is angry. The fan base is furious, the only thing Stan can do is try to take action in the off season and as we’ve seen this past week, he is wasting no time.

  • April 29, 2017 at 9:53 am

    Ernie- you are right- You don’t pay a goalie… BUT, SB all ready did… and worse than that… SB handed out NMC’s like candy… basically- SB + little cap increases= Hawks are in trouble. I was laughed at few years ago- suggesting the Team/system in front of goalie… is as big a factor for the Goalie success/as goalie — even suggested Crow to Oil for Draistl/Nilssen or Talbot type goalie…

    Craig- while I agree- SB is trying to “own the draft” in Number of picks/Times Hawk’s name is called to make pick… and with the chances greatly increased of finding a diamond in the rough by number of picks… Odds are still against the Hawks/SB finding a Pavel Datsyuk later in draft…

    Hawks NEED to move a fat contract- to really get better next year… most/all fat contracts have NMC!!! so big troubles for SB… At this point- I even trade Hartman as sweetener if someone will take Seabrooks deal… target a high draft pick + ???

    SB- knows Hawks are in trouble… that’s why all the urgency to attempt to sign all of these Euro free agents with a little size… SB – if he throws enough shit at the wall…. eventually some will stick= he will get lucky- and find a stud

  • April 29, 2017 at 10:19 am

    Wall, Hawks had Nilsen. And just because you said the Hawks should trade Crawford and or Seabrook to the Oilers for Draisatl doesnt mean a team would be stupid enough to do it.

  • April 29, 2017 at 10:29 am

    IF the hawks had traded Crawford and kept Darling as their #1, I wouldn’t have felt bad about the situation. The extra money would have been nice and darling APPEARS to be a consistent solid goalie, but what if the hawks took that risk and darling for whatever reason couldn’t handle the starting role? At least in this scenario we still have one of the best goalies in the game and a free 3rd round pick

  • April 29, 2017 at 10:32 am

    Ernie- I agree on other teams… may not be that dumb… for sure

    the point is– many here laughed at idea of other goalies… being capable of winning/or being as good or better than Crow… I mentioned Nilssen/Talbot on a good team/system– could be… look at Nilssen- on an average Sabre team- good numbers… Talbot- is gonna be in WC final/maybe SC finals… cuz- Oilers- are finally a good team/with a good structure…

    SB- is now paying price for handing out NMC/contracts like candy- imo- he needs to be more “Business” like- and not cave into the emotional Fan base- love of players… yes- no one predicted the collapse of the Canadien $$… but- he has backed himself into a corner… gonna be tough- to get out of.

  • April 29, 2017 at 10:32 am

    If Mcdonough has lost confidence in the front office he should be canned immediately…McDonough not the front office, This team was primed for a deep run. They rested, lost their prime and ran into a hot team with a hotter goalie. Terrible matchup. Shit happens, it’s hockey.

  • April 29, 2017 at 10:34 am

    Also, the Panik haters out there…i just don’t get it. For Jeremy Morin, we got the grittiest, hardest working player on our roster. He draws a bad penalty from time to time, but he also has offensive skill/ instinct and never gives up on a play/shift.

  • April 29, 2017 at 10:53 am

    Who trade now?
    My proposal: Hjalmarsson + Panarin vs. Lee, Hamonic, Berube.

  • April 29, 2017 at 10:56 am

    Morin is a restricted free agent as well, he s still bouncing around the minors. This is Panik’s time to cash in elsewhere, thanks for the memories Panner.

  • April 29, 2017 at 10:56 am

    I don’t think Hjalmarsson was healthy at the end of the season. I don’t figure the Blackhawks to move him.

  • April 29, 2017 at 11:07 am

    Interesting move; Good value coming back from Carolina. Two thoughts, 1 So who is backing up Crow next season? 2 Darling was going to be available in the expansion draft, Tab or someone else is there a min window of players that need to be exposed?

  • April 29, 2017 at 11:14 am

    SSHM- maybe SB tries to Sign Goalie Cal Petersen (Notre Dame)???
    Sabers Pick- but has not signed yet

  • April 29, 2017 at 11:16 am

    I would Hate to See Panik go… size , speed, and has solid hands around the net… improved cycle game… hawks need more guys/contracts like that… BUT- how much does he/agent think he deserves???

  • April 29, 2017 at 11:32 am

    Haven’t blogged here for quite a while.

    Agree with Tab that getting a 3rd rounder for a UFA is a good deal. Darling was terrific but he is not a starter. For those who keep knocking Crow, you are living in a fantasy world. Three cups and one bad bounce from a fourth. He has been a rock in net. He didn’t have a very good playoff, but he also didn’t get a lot of help either. A couple of more deep playoff runs and he will make the Hall of Fame.

    I know the goalie trainer for the Wolves and we both agree that the Hawks better get a good young net-minder pretty quick. Do we make a trade, or pick one up in the second round?

  • April 29, 2017 at 11:53 am

    Aks all the GMs in the league: You just won the Stanley Cup. Your goaltender plays a big role in winning it ….again!!! Do you trade him and go with two young goalies who were never #1 goalies and try to win a tird???? I think there’s a good chance… they would laugh!!! Yeah you upgrade defense in front of him but … still ,,,,,
    We’ve been through this before so I won’t continue.
    Prediction: Stan trades 5 picks to move up the board one slot in the first round to draft a tree(3) armed goalie from Cherynobl. :)

  • April 29, 2017 at 12:01 pm

    Ernie I strongly disagree that it was just a quirky bad breaks/bad matchup resulting in the first round loss to Nashville. They were not competitive and it wasn’t a close series at all. 4 goals in three games isn’t close. In my opinion the only real hope for the Hawks before Kane and Toews are gone is to stop trading away young talent. They need to acquire(any way possible) and develop younger players before Kane and Toews are gone. If they get a lot worse next year so be it. At least they keep their draft picks and can build for the future. SB is good at drafting etc. Trading Panik is a big mistake and they need to find a way to keep him regardless of the expansion draft. Stop obsessing over the expansion draft.

  • April 29, 2017 at 12:04 pm

    I’m fine with the Darling trade. Don’t trade Panik unless a lot is received back! No fire sale to avoid expansion draft risk!

  • April 29, 2017 at 12:11 pm

    Mudturtle– yes- Pens GM- is laughing that he won Cup w/ a kid named Murray- in net – kid played how many games in NHL before last year??? He must be better than Price and the King… cuz he has a Cup!

  • April 29, 2017 at 12:21 pm

    NHL hockey is a young man’s game. I hope Stan resists the urge to add 30+ players on the down side of their careers. If he does, you know Q is going to play them. Clean out some dead wood like Kruger and Tootoo for draft picks. I agree Pete, we were not even close to being competitive in the Nashville series. Hopefully Schmaltz, Hartman, Motte, Forsling, Fortin and D-Cat take big steps forward. I like Ian’s idea of packaging Kruger with Panik but I would prefer different players or draft picks in return. Priority #1 is a young physical defenseman that can actually skate.

  • April 29, 2017 at 12:36 pm

    Agreed Hawks 1961. SB has to create a roster so he can avoid giving Q the opportunity to dress the wrong players. No more guys on their last legs/last paychecks. etc.

  • April 29, 2017 at 12:37 pm

    Wall – Is that all you got???? Murray? Was that the Pens’ strategy when they started the season???? … No. {!!!} Putting your theory into practice is easier said than done and …again!!! ,,,, I don’t think one GM would roll the dice with Darling and Nilsson to start a season defending the cup.

    Tab!!! You probably have some hockey connections….. Run that scenario by some people and let us know what they say!!!!

  • April 29, 2017 at 2:16 pm

    Not to take anything away from the Predators but the first round loss exposed more than a bad match-up-Wow!

  • April 29, 2017 at 2:26 pm

    Pete & 1961 agree, Q showed leopard can’t change spots once playoffs commenced RE: rookie forwards & Kempny. I hope Hayden Hino & Kempny enjoyed the press box buffet during the games.

  • April 29, 2017 at 2:27 pm

    P.S. It’s like leaving someone in Baskin Robbins on their own when they swore off ice cream.

  • April 29, 2017 at 2:46 pm

    Still wouldn’t rule out the possibility of Hossa to vegas in the draft. Recapture clauses don’t cite expansion draft and expansion draft rules don’t mention that a recapture penalty would be applied. He would have to waive his nmc clause but who knows.

  • April 29, 2017 at 6:38 pm

    You can’t judge a move like this in a vacuum. The sum total of all the moves this offseason, and whether the Blackhawks are able to roll into next year’s playoffs as a strong contender (and play like it) will be the final determination on the performance of management. Backup goalie is a very important position even if the jury is still out on whether Darling can succeed as a starter. We are a weaker team for losing him. But you have to subtract in order to add when you are up against the salary cap. Time will tell if the additions yet to be made will outweigh the subtractions. This will include players already within the system making the roster/improving their play. The only thing harder than getting to the top is staying there.

  • April 29, 2017 at 6:43 pm

    Ok. You shouldn’t pay a goalie. It’s a fine line. Look at all the teams that were looking to unload a goalie. I’m not nearly as nuts on the topic as wall is. I’d prefer they didn’t pay 6, but I’m not butthurt they did either.

  • April 29, 2017 at 6:48 pm

    Ian, I said that long ago and Tab bitched me put. Mainly because he cited a recapture and NMC. He can waive the NMC and I haven’t heard about recapture. His hit is more than his salary so that helps get to the floor. And the dude is a consummate pro.

  • April 29, 2017 at 6:55 pm

    I love the fact that this blog lights up when the Hawks trade a backup goalie. Before all the freakouts continue, here are some “backup” goalies the Hawks could get rather cheaply:

    Chad Johnson – UFA
    Joonas Korpisalo – RFA
    Philipp Grubauer – RFA
    Jean-Francois Berube – UFA
    Steve Mason – UFA
    Cam Ward – 2.2 million (discount)
    Jonathan Bernier- UFA
    Mike Condon – UFA
    Jaroslav Halak – 2.2 million (discount)
    Al Montoya – 1.1 million
    Curtis McElhinney – UFA
    Carter Hutton – 1.1 million
    Antti Raanta – 1.1 million

    I really think they’ll be OK

  • April 29, 2017 at 7:22 pm

    Thank you Hawkfacts. Also…philly just jumped to number 2 in the draft. Had a 2.4% chance to get that high. Tough break for Colorado…they fell to 4.

  • April 29, 2017 at 7:48 pm

    Well how many Scups do the top 6 paid goalies have????

    That’s my point!!!!

    Thanks for the assist

  • April 29, 2017 at 8:04 pm

    Any news on SB signing this Kampf or Ejdsell kid yet???

  • April 29, 2017 at 8:23 pm

    There could be a recapture but I don’t see where it is mentioned. Wall how many cups did Brodeur and Roy win and where did they stack on the pay scale in their day.

  • April 29, 2017 at 8:48 pm

    Ian- a few years ago… I posted about a professor doing a study on Goalie pay… and winning cups… the PHD.’s study showed not much correlation… therefore- he suggested the skaters/system in front of Goalie- as important or more important…

  • April 29, 2017 at 8:59 pm

    Answer the question please

  • April 29, 2017 at 9:50 pm

    I can’t find the 1st article I read a few years ago on the Lack of correlation between salary of goalies and Cups… and i am pretty sure one of Brodeur or Roy were included in the peiod in which the study covered…

  • April 29, 2017 at 11:18 pm

    The Future core, and the quest to another Cup?

    The 2019-20 season has these players still on contract and their ages in that season.
    Kane 31, Toews 32, Anisimov 32, Seabrook 35, Crawford 35, Keith 38, Hossa 42.
    The only expiring contract after that season is Crawford,
    (Hammer, 31 then a UFA for that season)

    Do the Hawks win next year? I was optimistic/or at least hopeful 5 weeks ago about this year. Probably, in retrospect it’s amazing they won the 3rd Cup. I love the Hawks but would be floored by a 4th in the next few years.

    The times, they are a changing..

  • April 30, 2017 at 1:28 am

    Wall – of the teams who made the post season how many had “bargain” goaltenders? Yes, timing of the contracts – a Gibson (however Bernier at $4.15), or a Elliott/Johnson (did anyone believe they would win a round?)…but, Lundqvist, Rinne, Holtby, Fleury, Allen, Anderson, and Talbot are still playing. No “bargains” there. And, I (previously posted a couple of times) understand the “moneyball” look at goaltenders — the difference in $ mostly doesn’t match the difference in results. The position, because it depends so much on players “in front” is the most difficult to evaluate (slightly more than QB)…so that, raises questions about the “moneyball” numbers(, in my opinion).

  • April 30, 2017 at 1:39 am

    (Wall) To me, it really would not have mattered who was in goal (unless it was literally a brick wall), the team’s astounding difference/complete lack of effort was the problem. I have no “insider” information about injuries – that could have been a factor. The effort – especially in game two – was beyond embarrassing. I have never seen a professional SO unwilling to play. And, this was the post season (“ONE Goal” and all of that bullshit) not the Bears in game 16 just trying to finish finally and go home. I’m in agreement with anyone who believes a MAJOR move – Seabrook, preferable – MUST be made to SHAKE the LAZY, not-so-interested-after-years-of-success, “core”!! …make that TWO moves!

  • April 30, 2017 at 10:44 am

    This is why you overpay or take a not win in a trade to get 2 wins later. We overpaid Rundy for 2nd but we got Vermette not another team when we needed it. We did Teravainen with Bicks but got a 3rd for an ufa when we needed it. Good trade relations with certain teams. Take a hit and then get good deals later. Could MON be are next good deal.

    Its not about winning/fair trade in every trade, its paying your dues that pay off later in getting good trades.

  • April 30, 2017 at 1:58 pm

    Wall only one goalie is the man each year the rest wait for another year so to win a cup is one thing but you also pay a goalie to give you a chance to win and be competitive every year. Crowford has done that and won 2 cups along the way you can’t ask for anymore. Just fyi after free agency came to be in the nhl in the mid nineties (before that they were reliant on trickle down economics) Patrick Roy salary increased to 8.5 m in early 2000’s and Brodeur to about 7m in early 2000’s. So 6m 15 yrs later for similar results is hardly what you call an albatross contract.

  • April 30, 2017 at 3:23 pm

    Looks like Erie in OHL final , up 7 to 2 late

  • April 30, 2017 at 3:46 pm

    Ian- was there a cap back then???

    also- how many Cups did they win before/After their “fat” contracts were made fatter?

    I don’t know

  • April 30, 2017 at 4:45 pm

    Shalunov signed for 3yrs.

  • April 30, 2017 at 5:54 pm

    Always an argument with wall.

    Shalunov signed with Sibir. Don’t tease me like that Morrison.

  • April 30, 2017 at 5:55 pm

    Finally understand where Wall’s handle came from.

  • April 30, 2017 at 7:07 pm

    Getzlaf is a stud .

  • April 30, 2017 at 7:14 pm

    Love Fowler as well-he could fit into the Hawks line-up (just dreaming)

  • April 30, 2017 at 9:17 pm

    Keeping the good vibes.

  • May 1, 2017 at 6:47 am

    Dickie I agree-game 2 at home and down a game and no desperation was baffling. That’s what I meant by it was more than who they played in the first round.
    Nashville is good and playing well, winning that game yesterday–after the Fiala injury who was one of their top players to that point, proves that. But..

    The Hawks had no interest in pushing up their play, and giving their best effort and that seemed to be part of their DNA in the past. (I think there can be a few reasons why, but ‘the core’ accepted it)
    So unless that changes what they do to ‘re-tool’ doesn’t really matter.

  • May 1, 2017 at 8:00 am

    I think you hit on what I was trying to get across in previous posts. There are some core guys that are a little older. But Kane, Toews, Panarin, Keith, Hjalmarsson etc. aren’t “done”. It was the compete level that was missing against Nashville, and at different times during the season. That’s why I said a reset was important. And that is a mental reset. A player re-tool isn’t really possible on an overhaul basis. They’ve got to get the “One Goal” fire back. I think Stan is trying to do that with pointed moves with Kitchen, Dent, etc.

  • May 1, 2017 at 7:08 pm

    Ernie, Johnathan toews donot tase me bro.

  • May 1, 2017 at 8:28 pm

    April 29, 2017 at 9:53 am
    even suggested Crow to Oil for Draistl/Nilssen or Talbot type goalie…

    April 29, 2017 at 10:19 am
    And just because you said the Hawks should trade Crawford and or Seabrook to the Oilers for Draisatl doesnt mean a team would be stupid enough to do it.

    Were you guys actually thinking Crow might pry Draisaitl out of Edmonton? Chiarelli would cue up the laughing tape in about 3 seconds. LD in all likelihood will be making $7-7.5M per for 8 years, starting next season so that wouldn’t help the Hawks cap situation much.

    ernie I’m thinking you were saying the Oilers weren’t that dumb, and Wall you might have been quoting something you posted well before LD went all ballistic.

  • May 1, 2017 at 9:25 pm

    Alberta, yes I was saying the Oilers aren’t that dumb. Nobody is. So just because brick wall says he would have made that trade doesn’t mean somebody from the Oilers thinks they should.

    If someone says hey, remember that top 3 pick you had last year…yeah the big center on an ELC. Wanna give up on him after 1 year? Nobody takes that call.

  • May 1, 2017 at 9:31 pm

    Kampf signed up.

  • May 2, 2017 at 2:00 am

    Hey Dave and Mudturtle, look at the draft history our GM has conducted since 2010? Don’t be shy! Who’s left?

    Whether the fans do not believe they are the problem, the problem remains our GM’s arrogant, classless attitude and his assistants.

  • May 2, 2017 at 6:06 am

    Understand some points of view that Crawford should have left and Darling stay but the fact is that Crow is attached to the 2 cups and all the times (recent and past) that he kept us in games.
    Crawford is still paying prejudice cause of that series long ago against the Coyotes when some pucks slipped by him and he ultimately cost the series (not that the others were worth it).
    With a Ray Emery-like kind of backup think goalie position is Ok. The OTHER positions is what to be afraid of

  • May 2, 2017 at 11:32 am

    I think it’s less about who’s with the Hawks as it is who’s still in the league.

  • May 2, 2017 at 10:52 pm

    Cool MUDTURTLE!!!

    Really hope to see SMUALTZ centering 2nd line next year with HOSSA and PANARIN (unless PABNARIN gets traded for EVANDER KANE or SAAD!!!)

    PANIK TOEWS KANE (I would rather see TJ OSHIE with his buddy TOEWS, if PANIK is not signed and hopefully KRUGER is traded)

  • May 3, 2017 at 2:23 pm

    Fonsie, that’s right. SB has done a terrible job drafting since 2010. Considering SB has not had a pick higher than 20 since then and most picks were 25+ We have or had names like
    Hayes, Johns, Nordstrom, Denault, Clendening, Saad, Shaw, Hino, Hartman, Hayden and Schmaltz. They all suck and there’s not a real NHLer in the bunch. As for who is left, SB did what he had to do to win Cups in 13 and 15. Success brings big salary expectations. In a league where most draftees do not work out, SB has picked some solid pros in the past 6 years.

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