Blackhawks Win Game, Lose Jonathan Toews
The Blackhawks went into Boston and took away two points, but the win may have been their most costly of the season. In the second period, Dennis Seidenberg sent Chicago Captain Jonathan Toews into the boards head first. Toews returned for only one shift before leaving the game for “precautionary reasons.”
The league will undoubtedly look at the hit by Seidenberg, who was called for boarding on the play. But the NHL will also undoubtedly have questions for the Blackhawks, who allowed Toews to stay on the ice for the ensuing 5-on-3 power play until he went to the box himself less than a minute later. When Toews’ penalty ended, he immediately went to the room and did not return.
Chicago got on the board first when Klas Dahlbeck scored his first NHL goal. He was set up by a great play by Ben Smith, who would score the Hawks’ second goal later in the opening frame. Kruger had an assist on both goals.
The teams exchanged goals in the second, as Patrick Kane extended the Chicago lead to 3-0 at 13:19 but Reilly Smith would score at 18:37 to bring the lead back to only two.
In the game’s first 40 minutes, Boston center Patrice Bergeron had won more faceoffs (18 of 22) than the entire Blackhawks team (17). Bergeron finished the night winning 22 of 30 faceoffs; Chicago won 27 as a team in the game.
Torey Krug cut the lead to 3-2 in the middle stages of the third period after Milan Lucic drove through the Hawks defense. Andrew Shaw hit Lucic after he made the pass to Krug, and the teams got together for a few “conversations.” The aftermath saw Krug and Dahlbeck go off for minor penalties, while Shaw and Chris Kelly dropped the gloves and received five for fighting.
Shaw has to be smarter than that and understand the situation the Hawks were in with Toews already done for the night. He went to the box for five of the game’s final eight minutes, leaving the team with Smith, Kruger and Brad Richards at center against a Boston team that was already dominating at the dot.
For his part, Scott Darling help up under significant pressure in the second and third periods without Toews available. Darling stopped 32 of 34, and the Hawks were out-shot 20-9 in the games’ final 40 minutes but held on to earn their eighth straight victory.
The win is nice, but there is still concern for the well-being of Toews. Chicago faces Nick Leddy and the Islanders this weekend, and have eight games in the final 19 days of December.
Very reckless hit-quite worried what this might mean for 19’s health-long term
The league announced it will look into the hit. Unintentional yes, but dangerous nonetheless. Hopefully Q was being sincere and holding him out was just a precaution with a 3 goal lead.
Lucky win… We were outplayed. Costly win. Hopefully Toews does not have concussion issues like he did a couple years back. Let’s keep our fingers crossed.
Zero response on another cheap, dirty hit on the face of the franchise? Stick that high in the air means he has no intention of playing the puck, full intention to injure. Hit on Oduya also dangerous. Everyone watching (all NHL) knows to take liberties with Hawks and will go unchallenged. Sorry but that is the old school coming out of me. You have to have your teammates back. Everything gets magnified in the playoffs, including cheap shots. Very dangerous to all Hawk players if their is no fear of retaliation . I am sure most of you will not agree and will say to let the ref’s take care of it, but by then it is too late. Off the soap box. Thought the 4th line was great, 44 played well, and how about our third string goalie? Go Hawks
Cheap shot by Siedebenberg. Boston seems to be right up there with St. Louis and Anaheim as far as dirty play. Darling stole the game tonight. For a big guy he sure does a great job of covering low shots around the crease.
Lucky my ass.
That Fucking Flatlander.
A wise man predicted the 4th line was do to go on scoring run… (oh that was me)
The 4th line was the only line to win battles along the boards… again!!!
Shaw is dumb!!!
Richards was invisible!!!
Sasquatch!!!!
The 5 on 3 PP… A JOKE!!! Let’s place 3 guys on the goal line… puck w guy in the corner and then???? REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!! The goalie can defend that formation by himself- no need for any D… Seriously- that is 3 0n 1 — BUT – no angle to shoot, guy in front of the net is too close to shoot (deflection from terrible angle is about only option), and weak side 3rd forward has no chance to get pass thru the goalie???
WTF!!!!!
AS i have said many times before i think of Toews career and how it will be shortened because of the abuse he takes . either it is because he is not mean enough or because the Hawks dont retaliate yes yes i know they got two points but in my head im thinking screw the game and the two points send a message
Bickel should have nailed the jerk but again nothing so if its Joe Thornton cheap shoting Johnny with a punch or Orpik last year now this if somebody on the Hawks had done that to one of their players i dont think the Bruins would have done nothing
Bronco
How can we protest the 3 star selection. Ben Smith isn’t 1 of the stars and 2 Bruins are stars? WTF?
How is Shaw dumb. The response was running Lucic. We still had 3 centers that could go out there and Sharp is still pretty good at the dot. No one on this board even wants Shaw to play center. Shaw has more guts then any player we have and I loved seeing him knock Lucic on his ass.
What was dumb was letting Toews play when he was obviously hurt.
Thought we controlled the game pretty good through the first. Bruins came fit for bear to start the second. Thought Kane’s goal with the relentless play and magic hands would take the starch out of them as we took a 3-0 lead…then they responded with even more ferocity. Good on the Blackhawks defense corps and Scott Darling was outstanding and benefitted from an abnormal amount of puck luck. Thanks posts. Sports Net 360 was fawning all over Darling at the end of the game. What a history this fellow has…and just coming into development at his age of 25. They also pointed out that 3 goalies have never been sucessfully done in the NHL and that we may be facing a dilema. No way we can chance putting Raanta on waivers because he would be snapped up in a second (Washington?) . Stan will find a way. The Bruins are a dirty team and thankfully Chara is not yet up to speed. Bickell made some decent plays but fell down a lot. Guess he wanted to cool off his wallet. Very nice pass by Carcillo to the front of the net for Mr. Smith to hammer home. Its that third goal we need to ensure the opposition has to big a hill to climb. The Islanders game is going to be a barnburner…hopefully the Captain is at centre.
Best quote came from Claude Julien after the game. He said we need to teach our players to protect themselves better!!!! Obviously Toews boarding himself and Seidenberg was an innocent bystander. Man, I hate the Bruins.
Any ideas on how long the captain is out for?
Go Hawks and get well soon Johnny!!!
What a POS their coach is. Do you ever hear any of our coachs talk like that. Regardless of whos fault it actually was. What a disgrace.
Telling it like it is… Boston was pressuring us the majority of the game. Darling played well, but we got lucky with them hitting the post two or three times. We only had 9 sog in the last two periods and did not carry the play at all. We wasted 5 on 3 play by standing around playing for a tap in. We are successful when we are moving and using our speed. Cycling, moving the puck, getting net front presence, and shooting the damn puck.
Mike57, I saw that. How is Smith not the first or second star. Lucic the 3rd star? Where did that come from? That was b.s. I could see Bergeron being a star because he dominated on the dot tonight. I also agree Shaw is not dumb. Everyone saws he is better suited for wing so I can’t see dogging him for not taking any shit from the Bruins. At least he had the nads to do something. Steeger should have kicked Krug’s tail as well. Two or our lightest players are a couple of our toughest.
Bottom line, we found a way to win. Two more points and ascending in the standings. We probably could easily have lost the last two games, but we didn’t. It makes up for some of the earlier games that we should have won, but didn’t. It all evens out. Go Hawks!!!! 2nd in the league in points!!! GREAT!
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I believe that should be suspended for (at least) two games. There was no doubt this was intentional – whether the intent (difficult to prove) was injury, or not – he had time to not follow-thru on a hit clearly from behind (no “turned-into a vulnerable position” or merely “a hockey play”).
The “old school” I almost remember in me (- SO much NOW, in the NHL today, the way the game is supposed to be played bullshit conditioning makes it difficult) says next time somebody on the Hawks should injure Bergeron…just to express “we saw it”.
The Hawks won — to Long Island…
**** Insert “Seidenberg” between “that’ and “should” in my previous/December 12, 2014 at 12:20 am post. Thank you.
That was neither the time nor the place for Shaw to do that! Not with a 3-2 lead and Toews already gone.
Morrison- Ive never heard our coaches say anything that obtuse. Ours stand on the bench, grab there junk, and tell the refs to grow a pair. That was a classic. This on the other hand… Essentially saying players need to protect themselves from an illegal check, when at no point was he eligible to be checked…from the backside. Another comment made was that he should have known a check was coming. I guess when playing the Bruins, you should just expect to be boarded and checked from behind. Its crazy how diluted some of the Bruins fans are on other boards. Saying he hit him in the shoulder. The backside of the shoulder. Checking from behind wasn’t the call. Boarding was. I mean were all biased, so maybe were wrong? With the penalty, and the league already reviewing it I tend to think were on the right side of this argument.
Grabbing your nuts at the refs is not sportsmanlike, but that was done on a bs call. That was funny. Regardless of what team/bias when any coach says things like their coach did its a disgrace. The league fined Q for scratching his nuts. This guy should get his team punished for saying such. The league people arnt complete idiots, I hope they can see whos telling the truth/hiding behind cheap hits with clichés. Yet that team and similar ones to it, keep on getting away with shit over and over. It would be nice for the league to have embellishment on coaches statements, like 5 wins taken off your record and added to the loss category. This would never happen though. Even if someone got killed they still probably wouldn’t have the rule written right. It just drives me nuts when everybody plays by the rules and there a few teams that seem to have their own set of rules (because the league doesn’t punish them everytime they do it and the way the rules are written).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_2068918209&feature=iv&src_vid=ftGo5FR6umY&v=9OVw5eYow68
Sorry Tab, just tried to cutnpaste link, didn’t mean to have it go up like that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6IxtxfsNWg
What moronic fans in Boston last night booing Tazer skating off the ice after getting head slammed boarded. New lows! Sure, Shaw drilling Lucic later wasn’t well timed, but at least someone on the Hawks had the balls to say boarding our Cpt won’t stand. Lucic knew it was coming. The concern is the multiple head shots Toews is accumulating. His career is likely to be shortened by this. Q and or staff should be questioned for letting 19 skate on PP after that hit. Julien comments come from a clown that coaches one of the dirtiest teams in the league. What a surprise? Good video Mo, thanks for posting.
Darling keeps playing well. Dahlbeck buried his first and Hawks held on to get the points. Nice to see 4 line cashing in for all the hard work they have putting in and winning board battles. Once again the value of skating 4 good lines is very hard to defend. Not a pretty road win, but who can complain really? They are winning a few here when not playing textbook 60 minute games. Isles game should be fun. Get your eyes loose for that one. Should be up and down pond game with plenty of goals scored. If the Hawks stick to good team D another road win likely.
The train keeps on a rollin’. Great run!
Lets Go Hawks!
Mo, awesome video, thanks – needed a good laugh to start my day.
If Toewzer misses a game or two would love to see Sharpie center Saad and Hossa.
Shaw with Kruegs and Smith on a 3rd line and call up a center (Danault) to play with 29 and 13 on a banger 4th line. We will probably get 5 on a wing if its just 1 game though.
Hawks don’t have money to make any roster moves without LTIRing someone. Either Morin or Rundblad will have to play wing.
Julien doing some victim blaming, have to love it. He probably also blames victims of assault for dressing too provacatively.
Did anyone get the feeling like this game was the polar opposite of what the Hawks dealt with earlier in the season? Thoroughly outplaying the opposition only to ring pucks off of posts and have them slide through the crease? Puck luck gave them a make up game.
I don’t hate Dahlbeck’s game, but I’d like to see him be allowed to make mistakes. They are going to happen at the NHL level, just have to learn how to better adapt at the game speed.
As Phil said, the fact that the coaching/medical staff allowed Toews to go back into the game is absolutely awful. Read a bit about Second Impact Syndrome. With Toews history of concussions, they better take their time getting him back, even though they can’t really afford to be missing him right now.
I’m guessing Wall called Shaw dumb because he gave up a goal while trying to level Lucic.
Mike57- let me rephrase — Shaw made a dumb play ( and makes a lot of them – like several penalties this year while Hawks are on the PP)… in addition to 65 taking the Penalty (and leaving the Hawks down 2 players/Centers)… Shaw should have had the extra penalty for late hit… which it was!!! Please – let’s call it what it is!!!
Could have easily cost Hawks the Game- if the extra penalty was called (and it should have been)— DUMB PLAY– in the situation… I am all for retribution… but at the right time/place… And with the right guy- delivering it…
I think the Hawks have to call up Nordstrom- to Hit some people…lol
Did you see 44 hug it out with Kaner… Now that’s telling him!!!
So that hit looked kind of bad. They won the game and made Boston sit on it and I think that is more effective than doing something juvenile or barbaric.
Kind of weird that they would just toss a guy with brain pain history out there after the fact. Though they’ve done it with Seabrook in the past so its pretty evident that the staff there gives zero whatever about the mythical beast called the concussion.
That’s 3 in the last 4 or 5 years now for Toews where he has had to leave a game? Wonder if hell drive into another El support again with his not chevy car and truck…
No bueno.
AJ- Drive what Kane and Toews drive!!!
The 44/88 hug… brought tears to my eyes…
So what was Kane saying to Seidenberg, “that’s hockey baby!” WTF?
Lets Go Hawks!
Well at least Kane bothered to get some words in. More than you can say for the other 3 who were on the ice.
I agree and stated a couple years ago that the the Captain will not have a long career. He is a great great player willing to sacrifice his body MANY times in EVERY game to try and win every board battle.
Shaw is what he is. If you don’t like his game, suck it, this is his game. I like it and just expect him to make a few mistakes along the way. Hopefully his mistakes will not cost to many wins. Dang, the kid is 22, he will get smarter.
Ben Smith is a beast and is the most underrated Hawk.
The mark of a great team is finding a way to win on an off night.
My Cap fears are easing. TvR, Dahlbeck and Johns will make a reasonable cost D Core even if we keep Seabs. Ready young forwards will allow the Hawks to resign Saad and Kruger with the loss of maybe just 1 forward. Darling and Rannta may not be SC ready goalies yet but the tandem has won 5 or 6 in a row with the Hawks getting outshot in most of those wins………I love Crow but is our $6mm goalie expendable????
Ya know one might think that with our good (not superstar) young talent, a Cap next season of say $71mm will actually hurt some contenders more than it will hurt us.
Phil, Kane said to Sod…..I’d kick your ass if I were bigger and knew how to fight, you ahole!! Where’s Carbomb? Oh Q has his ass stapled to the bench.
with no apologies, i’m totally embarrassed to be a fan today knowing that our team let 19 continue. Its both inexcusable and disgusting to me. I would hope this is forcing change immediately.
Ryan – I think there were rumblings in the not so distant past about people in the organization referring to Dave Bolland as a coward for sitting out with the dizzies.
They’ve tried to run Seabs and Toews out after getting their “bell rung” enough times that this isn’t surprising behavior. Past evidence would say that they have a disconnect with modern science there which is ironic with the way they pimp their training\medical\support staff and are one of the teams that have a doctor that travels with the team.
Not what you do with a +100 million dollar investment IMO.
RD, I am with you on this. We all know that 19 said I’m ok, I can play. Almost all players want to keep playing. It’s up to the staff to yank his ass off the ice. Never mind the money tied up with Toews. The guy is massively important to the future of this team, and keeping him healthy should be the priority. These cumulative head shots are nothing but bad news in the bigger picture. In a regular season game and your Cpt gets run like that I say someone has got to pay on the other team, and it coming from Shaw says at least HE has his Cpt’s back. Shaw might make some dumb mistakes, but what he brings positive far outweighs the brain farts.
Lets Go Hawks!
Wall, didn’t you watch Mo’s video. Shaw did not get a penalty for hitting Lucic because the refs know the Bruins embellish. Hahaha!!! TOTALLY fine with Shaw getting into the fight.
Did anyone notice how Keith was kept on the ice for 2 straight shifts. He was paired with Seabrook and then Hjalmorson. He was gas’d and Lucic went around him like he was standing still. Keith had a chance to change but didn’t. Leaving him on the ice like that was more stupid than what Shaw did. That’s on the coaching staff and could have cost us the game.
AJ. I do recall other instances, i wasn’t certain enough to quote them. 19s situation is pretty well known and its really just mind numbing to me how it could happen. Thanks for adding, i enjoy your takes
Phil, I am always ok with players doing some policing, it’s just unfortunate that it’s needed. It can lead to more trouble but …what’s left other than turning and moving past it? This is really all we are built to do. btw, brutal was accurate on the 2 passings recently. I always felt BK had the best job/career in the free world! cheers mate LGH
I doubt the Hawks would have won either Cup without #19. Inexcusable to let him go back in with his concussion history. If 19 needs a few days off I think the Hawks will bring back 42. I would put 42 back with 16 and 28. I would put 10 on the first line to center 20 and 81.
I’m glad to hear that the Bruins teach their players to protect themselves from cheap hits. Oh, by the way, ask Marc Savard how that worked out for him!
I think it’s time Hawks fans stop whining about the lack of response when a Hawk gets a cheap shot. It isn’t in their DNA (except Shaw and Carcillo) and it’s just the way it is. We need to accept that regardless of what we would prefer happen.
Hawks haven’t been on top of their game the last two like they had previously but they still found a way to win, which is what good teams do.
Be well Tazer.
Booman- Shaw blew coverage when he hit Lucic which directly led to the goal. SHOULD have gotten a penalty as well which would have put the Hawks down a man in a one goal game. That hit wasn’t worth the potential points. Like Toews said after the Orpik hit, he thought the response there was perfect – they tried to win the game.
Just to appease Rufus – The Hawks did the same thing with Morin. Questioned his toughness while he sat out with a concussion. Pathetic.
THAT WAS NOT A CHEAP DIRTY HIT. Wreckless, yeah, but not dirty. Sidenberg wasnt even looking at Toews when he made contact. Just an unfortunate hockey play.
Pretty Clean hit on Towes . . . not intentional and he just hit his head /face pretty damn hard and for a guy who doesn’t get into the dirty areas he certainly has his share of concussion issues. Sasquatch looked very good, big foot big body, as “Boston announcers said” if Sasquatch Darling could just not move so much ya really have little or no net to shoot at” Solid performance on an off night vs a damn good rested team. The Power Play has no excuse, seems HAWKS have to play at a hyper speed to effective so when the gets slow in a power play they sort of drift off, over pass and get out of synch. When they make fast decisions and move the puck quick they’re deadly, btu when they think it hurts. They gotta get that fixed to win the cup! GO Hawks!
Total agreement that “revenge” is not in Hawks DNA! IF it was they would be an average team taking lots of lame penalties and playing 4 o n 5. I only object to traffic in front of our net, no need to slash or punch or trip, just move bodies for gods sake! Our goaltenders get more abuse they anyone in the nhl! Darling “Sasquatch” just might drop the blocker soon and go at it . . . cage match!
The hit by Seidenberg, while reckless, was not intentional. He’s not known as a dirty cheap shot player and the Canadien network said that he waited and spoke to Sharpie after the game and expressed his concern for Tazer.
The players in this league know who the cheap shot knuckleheads are and who they are not. He got a minor penalty and will get a slap on the wrist from the league, possibly. Hockey is a tough, physical, fast game and that play happened in the blink of eye. The Hawks won the game and let’s move on.
Claude Julien was protecting his player when he said that Tazer needs to protect himself. He’s not going to throw his veteran player under the bus. Just remember that when Seidenberg goes for his hearing that they examine everything, his intentions, his body language after the hit, his demeanor after the game……everything. Julien was protecting his veteran.
As far as the Hawks retaliating, they won the game and Tazer will be fine. Let’s dwell on this after the Stanley Cup victory in June!!!
Any news on Toews ? Anything! Can’t find any information.
“The Hawks did the same thing with Morin. Questioned his toughness while he sat out with a concussion. Pathetic.”
Never heard this or saw anything about it, may have missed it … any link anywhere?
Booman, when I said lucky may ass I wasn’t referring it that way. Your right they outshot us 20-10 in the 2nd and 3rd and we got lucky they hit 3 posts (like we did several time in the first 10 games, etc.). Also though they got lucky we didn’t score 3 PP goals on the 5on3 and what should have been a 5min major (which would have another 2min 5on3 and 3min of 5on4 PPs). Even though Kaner scored anyways its 3-0, it would be 5-2 during 3rd instead 3-2 and having to hold on like that and play with less then 12 FW. I guess I should have said they were lucky too.
Mikemook, I want the league to have a better standard for rules/lack of, front of net.
They need to have the rules written better. To me doesn’t matter if its a intentional or not, dirty hit, cheap hit, or clean hit. The bottom line is if you check/hit/push, etc. someone from behind and they hit their head on glass or boards causing injury/out of game its an automatic 5/10game suspension. You take the risk of getting suspended by hitting from behind. Everyone says its unfortunate for the victim. How about unfortunate for the hitter, if someone gets hurt on it.
Miningman, Tazer was on plane with team, good news.
No supplemental discipline from the NHL
and agree with Morrison-one day there will be a broken neck, but oh well, it was a tough hockey play with no intent to injure. No suspension-no deterrant.
If Toews doesn’t play vs. Isles… I wouldn’t want to be the Goalie for Hawks tonite…
Isles are capable of putting 5 or 6 goals up (less #19)…
WTS- Darling appears to be Q’s guy now… Raanta would have to clear waivers to send down… So they most likely won’t send Raanta down when 50 comes back…
Who does he start tonite- knowing this could be a high scoring game (especially if 19 is sitting)
Morrison…thanks for the information….Toews flying out with the team is very good news….be real interesting to see if he sits or plays. Its going to be one heckava game to watch….the Isles are a very entertaining club these days.
I don’t think Raanta has to go through waivers to be sent down, he hasn’t played 60 NHL games yet and didn’t they send him down to Rockford for a few games already? He didn’t have to clear waivers when they did that recently …
Hofmeister is correct. Raanta does not have to clear waivers. He and Darling are interchangeable.
thx
so it makes it even more advantageous for the Hawks to sit Raanta- to keep at less than 60 games for as long as needed- with all things being equal- to see how he develops/control him…
Also, we can bank 180k more with 33 on 23man. Trade 11 and we will be banking a prorated 1.2m for deadline.