Brandon Pirri Traded to Florida
On Sunday evening, the Blackhawks traded center Brandon Pirri to the Florida Panthers for Florida’s third round pick in the 2014 NHL Draft and Florida’s fifth round pick in the 2016 NHL Entry draft.
Pirri, 22, had six goals with seven assists and six PIM in in 35 NHL games with the Blackhawks, but never got a full-time shot with the big club in Chicago. He led the AHL in points and assists during the 2012-13 season.
In Florida, Pirri will join former IceHogs teammates Jimmy Hayes and Dylan Olsen, and former Blackhawks Brian Campbell and Tomas Kopecky.
That sure feels underwhelming. Kind of surprised that was the best that Stan could do, but no use crying over spilled milk. It’s great to see the hawks back on the ice after the Olympic break, especially with the game the captain just had against Pittsburgh! Let’s go hawks!
Rufus-Happy Birthday!!!!!!!!
I guess most of us here had it right… Hawks like Mo better- Just had to let Pirri prove he can/Can’t play w/ Hawks… Pirri doesn’t fit here… (like Hayes)… just don’t skate well enough.
And yes- 37 might score 20 g’s/yr. for an average squad- somewhere else!!!
3d and 5th rounders………….why did they bother? Maybe Pirri asked for the trade
“why did they bother?”
Bowman just got better value for Pirri w/ 35 games on his NHL resume than he gave up for Regin + Bouchard.
The Blackhawks now have 8 picks in the 2014 Draft, including two in the 3rd and 5th rounds.
For the most part I’m happy with this trade. No matter how many fans thought he should have gotten a better or longer chance to fill the 2C spot, Q thought differently and he’s the guy who makes that decision. So now he’s gone and I’m very happy that all the endless posts whining about the Pirri situation will be following him out of town. Good luck to him but I’m glad he’s gone.
The only negative is that it will probably hurt Rokford’s chances to either make the playoffs of if they do, to do well in the playoffs. Pirri was a big reason they’ve been on the nice run over the past month or so (along with Morin who might be leaving Rockford too is he gets called up for Hossa).
Tab – great point. I think this was also a sign from the organization that it takes care of its own. Pirri did everything asked of him and clearly wasn’t going to crack the team but the Hawks moved him to get him a shot at playing in the NHL while still receiving decent value with the picks.
Let Pirri net 20 goals a year on a shit team. He can’t skate and he has no two way ability. Nice kid but he isn’t playoff team material and the low relative return Stan got back for him is indicative of what the league really thinks about his game. The Panthers are land of the misfit toys. Pirri, Hayes, Olsen are all non playoff caliber team players in this league.
Rufus, I’m pretty sure you said that Pirri would only net a 6th round pick… so go eat some crow. And I don’t mean Crawford.
Brandon Pirri net the same return as the unstoppable force known as Michael Frolik. They must really be banking on Handzus being healthy for the remainder of the season, because I don’t know who is next in line at Center.
When did I say that pal? Proof?!? Sounds also like your hatred of Quenneville suggests you would be much happier being fan of the Florida Panthers so you could have daily orgasm over Pirri, Hayes, Olsen. I’m thinking also that Sr Brad’s Parrot would do much better in the warmer climate too, so take that asshat with you as well.
Handzus and Regin are a good mix and match combo in the short term. Both play two way hockey and Regin can actually skate. Ideal? Hell no. But it can work. Some tend to forget that Zus was an integral playoff performer last year.
Very underwhelmed by this moved. I would have rather the Hawks keep him as insurance. 3rd and 6th isn’t much of a haul for Pirri. It’s almost commical how many hawks are not Panthers. Any word on Hoss?
The return on Pirri is indicative of his pronounced limitation as a forward.
I’d have to go back and read too much stuff to find the exact quote, Rufus. If you can’t remember things that you said, that isn’t my problem. Most people here know my memory.
Everyone remembers that Handzus was an integral part to the SC run last year. Everyone should also remember that he played 39 games last year. The problem people had with Handzus this year was him playing every game. He shouldn’t. He isn’t good when he does.
“Pirri’s trade value is a used ice shovel. Lets not get carried away boys and girls.”
That’s as much as I’m willing to look.
Pirri returned the same value as Frolik. So what does that say about Frolik? Maybe you should put down that ice shovel and stop digging a hole.
Pirri was provided multiple chances to prove his fit and it never worked. Q was very patient but in the end it’s about winning here in Chicago.
If you’re going to be a Center on this team then you had better play two way hockey and be able to do the little things. Regin can fill the gap in parallel with Zus. Also Kruger is assuming increasing duty. And this hotshot kid from Finland may arrive soon enough as well.
Keep in mind that the 3rd round pick will be in the first few picks of the round – similar to getting a 2nd round pick from a more competitive team.
The 2014 draft is supposed to be a poor crop – only the first 15-20 picks would be considered 1st rounders in most drafts. The 2015 draft is just the opposite with a bumper crop extending into the 2nd and 3rd rounds of players who have 1st round grades. The 2016 draft is too far away for the experts to have a good read yet.
Teuvo is not a hotshot kid, his name is Youngblood.
Good for Brandon…he’s a good kid with a great shot. excellent passing skills, outstanding vision and hustle…I think he learned a lot while in Chicago…and let’s not forget, that while Pirri got on a roll his first time up this year, most here were wondering if we had the cap space to resign him…
The bottom line is that the Hawks are sold on TT…Bowman has made that very clear, and there just isn’t any room for Brandon, so Bowman trading him now, shows respect to the kid’s abilities…I think he will do well in FLA.
Now its Morin’s turn…for as good as Pirri was back in Rockford, Morin has been significantly better…like Pirri, Morin has no business playing in the AHL…so another interesting 24 hours coming up…
As for Zus and Regin as our 2nd line centre tandem…they are NOT the answer…that’s coming soon to a home theatre near you…
This year with the flurry of minor moves before the deadline, it just feels like Bowman is looking to do something different. I think something will happen to this team this year. It may be using TT, or it could also be shuttling out some NHL players (most likely D-Men which means, I agree, Saad cannot be used for Kesler or anyone else). This is me just throwing this out randomly: what about Shaw, Leddy, Morin and a pick for Kesler…say what you will but this is significantly better in my opinion than the reported Penguins offer.
Pirri may also have been traded to clear a spot on the 50 space “extended roster” for Justin Holl
A lot of people have talked about this, but I am amazed for what I perceive to be so little for Pirri. It is a solid reminder that AHL All-Stars may not always translate to the NHL.
Pirri returned the same value as Frolik, a proven veteran coming off of one of his best years. PMB and Regin only cost a 4th. Handzus only cost a 4th.
It’s not like Bowman could have used Pirri as part of a larger trade, either. Hawks don’t have the cap space to take anyone on so it was picks for Pirri at the deadline or who knows what around the draft. He was going to move behind TT on the depth chart, so it’s not like he had a chance to play here in Chicago next season.
It’s going to be a really interesting final 20 games. You’d have to think TT playing more than 10 games will have to depend on how Regin/Handzus hold up until his season is over.
Not dissimilar to Morin, Pirri I think got jerked around a bit much.
Whelp, they could move a “core” player if “cap space” was an issue and the right player was available.
TT- most likely won’t be available form Jokerit until 3-31 (if the seeds win and lose by rankings of course)- Jokerit could get swept or lose in 5… and he could be here a little sooner…
BUT- what are the implications of TT making the Fins World Team? Does that take priority over Hawks (who has the rights)? Or is that a TT/Hawks decision- on if he comes and plays those last several games w/ Hawks (of course if Hawks are playing great- SB will most likely let him stay in Finland)
My comment why bother making this trade is this. Pirri is a nice player who is NOT a 2C on this club…no problem there. Also there is no room at 3C or 4C for him as Q likes the situation he has. So, we stick with Zues and Regin to center our world class wings.
The 2014 draft is by most accounts very underwhelming. An early 3d round pick will hopefully produce a serviceable player. A 5th rounder in 2016 will not yield results until 2018 or later. I can’t believe this is a move for the “future”.
That said, I am ok with the trade. However, there were reasons to keep him OR get a little more for him. First, the Icehogs could use him the balance of this year. I know, I know, who cares about the AHL? The players, fans and owners sure do. The Hogs have missed the playoff the past 4 seasons. That is not good in any situation. The AHL playoffs is probably the best indicator of a players future potential. AHL playoff games may not be as intense as in the NHL but they are not far off. Everyone is there to win
So if Pirri were to stick around for the rest of this season, The Hogs would stand a better chance and maybe go deep into the playoffs. What is the worse that could happen? We would lose the picks we got for him. Pirri is an RFA so the Hawks could either sign him CHEAP or he could sign an offer sheet. If he signs an offer sheet the Hawks compensation may not be much less than what they got.
Wall- TT is on loan to Jokerit, so I would imagine when their season is done he’s free to come over. It would be the Hawks decision on whether or not they want him to play in Worlds.
Mike- it was probably contract related. The Hawks have a handful of people coming out of college that they will need space for. Probably came down to move Pirri for picks now, or just let someone go.
My “sources” tell me the 2c problem is about to be “fixed”
“Savvy” has been undergoing an intense conditioning regimen, along with daily transfusions with 19 88 & the age less wonder Brodeur. He should be ready to go within the week…….
Also in the works is the same procedure for Chelli & Bobby Hu double hockey sticks…..
Wall, the TT scenario with playoffs and potentially the World Championships, all depends upon TT and the Hawks…that’s it…its clear from Bowman’s words that they would like TT to come to Hawks once the Jokerit season is done…there is a contract issue with TT as well, as long as he plays 9 games or less this season in the NHL, then his original pro contract stays in tact, if he plays more, then I believe the Hawks will have to resign him next year…so Bowman won’t let that happen…
If you look at the Hawks schedule and the bigger picture, then I think your idea of 3/31 is probably very accurate…we play BOS in Boston on 3/27, that would be our 9th remaining game in the season…conceivably, TT could play there, but I doubt it…nor the next night in OTT or the road trip finisher in PITT…so the April 3rd game against MIN at home would likely be his debut, giving him 6 games as 2nd line centre to see if he is indeed ready for the position heading into the post season…
Remember, during pre season, Q was very verbal about his approval of TT’s defensive zone play, so if he “got it” then, he should be able to step back into the Hawks system without too much “downtime”…in other words, I think THIS is the big move that the Hawks are planning heading into the playoffs, with Regin and Zus as “insurance policies”…I just don’t see Bowman making another deal with TT on the immediate horizon…
As for only picks for Pirri, I think JS is right…I can’t see the Hawks not wanting to sign Justin Holl…we spent a 2nd round pick on him, he’s had a nice College career in MIN and he has tremendous speed for a DMan…we needed another space to be able to sign him…as for a 3rd and a 5th…again, Troy Brouwer got us a 1st…Frolik got us a 3rd…its a fair return for a player who shows a lot of promise, but not a lot of NHL stats…
Personally I would have rather Stan kept Pirri even if it was only for his AHL production. But reading between the lines Im getting the sense that Hayes going to the AHL is all but assured now and and Stan needed to make room for him by dumping Pirri. But I am curious who gets 1st line billing on the IceHogs. Is Dannualt ready for that spot? I’ve only seen 1 Hogs game so I can’t speak of his game so far outside of his stats. All I know about Dannualt is his scouting report and draft blurb.
SSHM, Nordstrom and Ross have been the heart and soul of Rockford all season long (as forwards) and Nordstrom will easily slip into that role…Alex Broadhurst is a dynamic Centre, when Dent uses him there, and don’t forget about the Hobey Baker Award winner, LeBlanc…he’s been better of late and is ready to take on more responsibility…IMO, Danault will continue to plug along as the 3rd or 4th line centre…don’t forget McNeil played Centre for most of his life…
As for moving Pirri now, part of this is to make room for the College signings, but a lot of it is respect for Pirri as a player…Bowman knows that Pirri can play in the NHL and deserves a shot now, not later…
Brad, I am not sure but I thought it was 8 games or less is ok or it will count as one of elc years (slide yr). I do not think they have to resign or that it makes a difference if their (8 games or less) if there reg season or playoff…
Mo, I can’t remember if it was 8 or 9, but I thought it only applied to regular season games (I’m pretty sure of that)…and I believe that if he plays more than the 9 (or 8) regular season games, the original entry level contract would become void…if anyone else knows, chime in…thanks…
My understanding is that if he plays 10 games then it counts as a full year on the 3 year entry deal. In this case his entry deal would only go for two more years but the contract is not voided.
Right. If he isn’t playing in the AHL/NHL, they can “slide” the contract back a year. If he plays 10 games, then it counts as a year off of the ELC and he’ll have 2 left. So if he gets here the first week of April, there are 6 regular season games left. He would have to have a pretty special impact for them to give a year up, I imagine.