Brian Campbell Retires, Joins Hawks Front Office
During an appearance on WGN Radio on Monday morning, defenseman Brian Campbell announced his playing days in the NHL are over.
After 17 seasons in the NHL, @bcampbell_51 has announced his retirement.
Congrats on an incredible career, Soupy! pic.twitter.com/I4Wg8wwTIl
— Chicago Blackhawks (@NHLBlackhawks) July 17, 2017
He isn’t done with the Blackhawks, organization, however.
Campbell, 38, will join the Chicago Blackhawks business operations department. According to the team’s release this morning, Campbell will assist “with various marketing, community relations and youth hockey initiatives.”
On July 1, 2008, Campbell surprised many by signing an eight-year contract with the then-awful Blackhawks, a deal with a cap hit north of $7M per season. He played three of those eight seasons in Chicago, helping the Hawks win the Stanley Cup in 2010 – literally. Campbell had the primary assist on Patrick Kane’s Cup-clinching goal that closed out the 2010 Cup Final.
Chicago ultimately traded him to Florida for Rostislav Olesz during the 2011 NHL Draft.
Campbell played 1,082 regular season games in the NHL, posting 504 points along the way. He was initially a sixth round pick (#156) by the Buffalo Sabres in the 1997 NHL Draft; to put that into perspective, most of the kids drafted this year were born in 1999. Soupy played for four teams during his career – Buffalo, San Jose, Chicago and Florida – and appeared in four NHL All-Star Games (2007, 2008, 2009 and 2012).
He returned to Chicago on a one-year deal and finished his career with 17 points in 80 games for the 2016-17 Blackhawks.
124 thoughts on “Brian Campbell Retires, Joins Hawks Front Office”
Well deserved congratulations and all the best to a long happy retirement
Great NHL career. Great that he’s still with the organization. Didn’t think he’d be back on the ice but glad he’s still around!
What a great career! I think some more need to hang up their skates for the front office- freeing up cap space for talented younger guys!!
Congrats to Soupy on a great career and retirement!
Congrats Soupy! Thanks for being such a big part of the Hawks rise to prominence, and all around great guy! Man, times are changing, for sure, if this doesn’t seem like a team with the arrow facing down I don’t know what does.
Good read from Puck Daddy on Campbell
Quality player and a good guy that had a long and successful career. He was a huge part of the 2010 Cup run as he could really bring the puck up from the back which caused opposing teams big problems. Pity his legs were not what they once were this past season. I think it was worth the attempt bringing him back last season though.
Lets Go Hawks!
That’s nice he retired, he seems like a good person. Irrespective of that, if Campbell has the sense to retire, how is Roszival still projected to be 7th/8th D-man? Campbell is Bobby Orr in his prime last yr. compared to Roszival.
Maybe he can help Rozi to retire ……..
Yes 2010, agree. Why not make Roszival Hawks’ Czech Ambassador? He seems like a friendly guy. He can shuttle b/w his homeland and here. He can interpret as well, if necessary, for Kempny and others. I’m not against him helping out, just not as a player anymore.
Roszival “is old, he should have been out of the game years ago but he can’t stay home because he hates his wife…”
Camp today- observations: Mostly one on one and two on two drills – in small space or one Zone– no full ice skating- so Speed really wasn’t “needed/used” in this practice
Bondra- Huge, hulking, heavy shot, protected puck well… only way this kid doesn’t get a chance somewhere/someday… is if he has no heart/drive or he is really dumb- imo
Knott was noticeable
D-cat- most of practice — looked BAD- couldn’t beat anyone in one on one or 2/2… cuz doesn’t have speed or strength… Last 20 minutes- they did 3 on 3 game (blue line to blue line)– This is where D -cat, was the BEST player on ice by far-passing and creating/instincts, and quick decision making- with a little space.
Ian Mitchell— TINY D man… but He moved the puck like D-Cat in scrimmage… Just thinks the game way faster than the rest… also- very quick feet… This kid- could be the sleeper Pick of this year’s draft… He will fit in perfectly with Denver (they seemed to play at another speed versus everyone in Frozen Four)
Thanks Wall for the update and time you spent to make those observations.
Let’s Go Hawks!
Thx Wall keep’em coming.
Also- Soderlund kid– is Tiny too… fast/aggressive- saw him do some good things
A practice– (didn’t stay for last 3 on 3 scrimmage- wanted to beat traffic)
From- can still fly,, of all the guys from both practices– this is the only Forward to just blow by D guys– who where supposed to stand Forwards up/or take meet them at Blue line – ( forwards only have around 10-15 feet of space to create speed before Blue line… so most failed versus D… to get quality rush/shots) From- did not Fail… literally blew by some guys
FOO- really liked his skating, fluid, great hands… He is going to be good– great pick
Sikura- I liked
The Standout/Star to me– Dennis Gilbert- just flattened most of the Forwards in that one/one drill… No other D guy – did what he did!!! the first two forwards who tried to skate by him- got pancaked 3 feet over the Blue line!!! Does he do that versus Kane or Toews… probably not… but He made those Prospects look like they Did NOT belong!!!
Thought Rafferty might be a surprise but doesn’t sound like it.
Thanks Soup for being a solid Blackhawk.
Thanks for the updates Wall. I like hearing the updates/progression of the prospects
Brian Campbell is a first class person and had an excellent and rewarding NHL career. His wife hails from Naperville and I’m glad on multiple levels that he will have a role in the organ-I-zation.
D-Cat has neither the speed or sufficient size to be anything more than a novelty act in the NHL. He was a gamble in the 2nd round last year. A gamble that was not the smartest way of using a higher round draft pick in my estimation.
Peeters lo9ked good too
Guy is super long
Wall…..thx for info on the kids..
Too bad Fortin is not playing….
“D-Cat has neither the speed or sufficient size to be anything more than a novelty act in the NHL. He was a gamble in the 2nd round last year. A gamble that was not the smartest way of using a higher round draft pick in my estimation.” — Its’ “OFFICIAL”. Now we can all go home…
Can we give the guy a chance to play and develop a bit befor all of the experts here declare him a “novelty act.” At least Wall’s observations are first hand with descriptions that make sense. I can see him being better in open areas and not so in tighter quarters against bigger bodies. It will be interesting to see him develop and gain strength. His numbers in the OHL in three consecutive years are not a fluke or a novelty. I’m anxious to see him in game situations with the big boys. I’ll reserve judgement until then.
I prefer to wait and see with DCat …he is young and he was always adapting on every league he was ,so i dont really think he will different this time ..he is a kid and he need his time to adapt again. Nothing new for him …many players where in a similar situation …now let see how long it will take him to reach the NHL . I say in less then 2 years he will play in NHL and not for 5-10 games .
Re: D-cat (age 19)
Martin St Louis 5’8″, 180 lb — first two years in NHL, (also played in AHL)
age 23 13GP 2 pts
age 24 56GP 18 pts
Career 1134 GP 391 goals, 1033 pts 12 time all-star
Thank you Wall I appreciate the insight, was hoping to attend again this season but I just can’t fit it into my schedule
Agree Debrincat is a wait see prospect. To expect him to step right in and light it up at NHL level is unrealistic but will likely need a year or so in Rockford to adapt his game to see how he can handle the bigger faster Dmen in the NHL.
More on Sikura and Foo… actually they looked very similar in drills… both + skaters/fluid/ and looked like they could handle the puck well…
Foo- is bigger (at least taller) and younger… so I think he has a legit chance in the future (of course- this is all based on Drills Versus other Youngsters)…
But both Sikura/Foo looked a little more skilled – than most others.
Ian Mitchell– I was really impressed with– kid has quick feet and instincts
D-Cat… like I tried to say… if he plays with AA/Kane or 19/Saad type guys… who can win board battles…. open space/open game… D-Cat is ready… -imo
really would struggle in slow down game… or one where his line pairings weren’t big/good enough to carry/hold the puck themselves….
I agree-he isn’t a bottom 6 guy. And to say he has no chance is absurd.
Ask guys like McDavid, and Strome if he has a legit chance–they might have a better feel than some on this site as they have played with him and in the NHL.
He won’t wow right away and this (and other things) seemed to cost him at the worlds this year. I was at a game this year were he was off, but then the next game had 6 points.
Why do people have to put in grandiose, over the top comments to be heard–well I guess it’s in right now-lol
Dickie Dunn wrote that. It must be true.
D-Cat will never fit or play within a Quenneville system. I could care less what he did in Erie. He has no size, doesn’t play a lick of defense in any regard and is not a quality skater. NHL players will eat him for lunch.
I’m not going to get in a pissing match here. Just like Morin and Pirri I am solidly and sadly confident in my scouting assessment of D-Cat. He will go down as a stupid pick by Bowman. End of subject.
“Solidly and sadly?” Oh well, when you put it that way, sure go ahead and piss on a kid’s potential future because you’ve looked into your crystal ball and you know. End of subject? Fuck off!
Why not have a pissing match, it’s what you enjoy doing when you spread your ill-informed bile for all to read?
You predicted Morin’s and Pirri’s futures? Wow, congrats!
Rufus Debrincat has a skill set and work ethic that is star level in any league you can’t take that away from him. That alone gives him a shot.
Good A.M. Mr. Rufus: Congratulations, you have been correct re: prospects and players about 5% of the time. I stipulate (again) re: Morin, you were correct. I’m scheduling the parade in your honor. The accolades are truly yours.
If we subpoenaed and went thru all of your posts re: player evaluations over the years, the overview wouldn’t be pretty. You can’t judge Debrincat — or any other prospect for that matter — on a few practices during summer camp. That’s like saying a student in grade school who had straight A’s got a C on their first quiz in summer high school preparatory class, so the student will fail in high school and make nothing of themselves.
Debrincat is a pure offensive scoring machine. These are the facts. If he was a few inches taller, he would have been drafted in the top 10 of his class. His skillset is not teachable. This was a shrewd selection by Bowman. I think he will succeed in the NHL, at a fairly high level. It may not happen on a dime overnight, but it will happen. In the unlikely event it doesn’t, zero blame should be attributed to Bowman. I have my issues w/ his free agent decision making this summer (Bouma, Wingels give me a break, we still don’t have any centers to take faceoffs aside from Toews), but overall he has done a good job.
Lastly, let’s go back 35 or so years. If you saw Larmer in a summer prospect camp (assuming there was such a thing back then), you would be posting he can’t skate, he is skinny, he is soft, blah blah blah, why did the Hawks draft this guy it was a wasted pick.
Have a pleasant day.
In my 15 years of officiating especially the AAA teams (best ametuer hockey in the state) I noticed that the difference in skill level between the “elite” players & the other players is really not that much.
You can’t have a team of 88’s or 19’s or 87’s nor would you want to. Players have different roles & the shrewd coaches use match-ups to their advantage.
Q is no dummy or he wouldn’t be as successful as he is. He will devise a system that will maximize the skill sets of his players. And if for some reason he doesn’t he will be held accountable.
Let’s not forget that the injuries of playing this game can turn an “elite” player into an average player, which is what I believe happened to 19 ( & others) last season.
I for one am confident that the core will return healthy, re-energized & hungry for another cup!
Thank you Joey Zamboni. That’s what I like to hear.
Great post Joey agree totally. Iceman on the faceoff issue I wonder when season starts if Letestu with the Oilers would be available with their obvious depth at center. He’s a career 51.9% guy on faceoffs with decent bottom 6 offensive numbers and a good 2way game.
Heard the Hawks were trying to move Anisimov for assets that could be packaged and traded to Colorado for Duchene. Anyone else heard that?
Not from a resource I trust yet. Don’t think its doable until ltir is available when season starts unless Avs retain some salary and that would be pretty costly most likely.
(Morrison) Dickie Dunn QUOTE that (Rufus T). It must be true.
Rufus, “I’m not going to get in a pissing match here. Just like Morin and Pirri I am solidly and sadly confident in my scouting assessment of D-Cat. He will go down as a stupid pick by Bowman. End of subject.” — do you have the winning numbers for tonight’s Powerball draw?
Skating is a trickier subject to judge-there is speed, balance/agility/edges and ability to slow down and speed up–if you judge D-Cat on straight line speed he will be a mediocre at best NHLer.
But he can skate very well with the puck, eyes up, actually quite fluid and pretty quick with nice lateral movement. He won’t be used in many defensive roles.
He is an above average passer and has a unique (God given) ability to find space and shoot the puck quickly.
Not saying he will pan out. But here’s hoping. Giving up on his gifts is craziness.
Zamboni, I for one am confident that the core will return healthy, re-energized & hungry for another cup!
Rufus, remind me again about the world’s greatest goalie, peker wienie.
all the best soupy! Thought he would be back on left side with Hammer traded to
Yotes! He would have given COACH Q some predictability as he loves to say!!!
Great career, amazing skater!!!
Wonder when HOSSA will make a public appearance??? Fans deserve to see him explain his situation.
TOTTI- when HOSSA will make a public appearance??? Fans deserve to see him explain his situation.
Fans deserve one thing – 100% from the players on the ice….
I appreciate you passion but let him have his privacy…
Now if it all turns out be a hoax to circumvent the cap then it’s a different story, but there has been zero evidence of that & I highly doubt this is the case.
Somebody went to see the kids in the last 2 days ?
Wonder what going on with Fortin ?
Not sure if this is what you meanHawks2010 but Fortin had sports hernia surgery in June and should be ready to go for training camp.
Thx Ian ….for info on Fortin …i didnt know he had that Surgery … ;)
Great career no doubt. However, if this site will permit me to be a selfish Hawks fan for a moment I would say that if this would have happened before last year maybe Teravainen would still be on the Hawks. Part of the money saved on dumping Bickell went to Campbell and Campbell couldn’t keep up in the playoffs so no matter how cheap Campbell’s contract was it was still a complete waste of money. I realize that hindsight is 20/20, but I called out the horrendous Teravainen deal from the start and the only reason to do it was to save salary cap space. Part of that salary savings went to a player that didn’t help when it counted. That being said, Campbell had a great career and I wish him the best and I thank him for his efforts.
Soup and quackers
Sharp on ice with skating coach– working before practice
Rosey- sited / standing about 15 feet away… talking/hanging with 2 others- I did not know… then Prospect (w/ prospect Hawks tee shirt/name hand written in front) – stands and talks w/ Rosey for about 15 minutes….kid is about 5’11 and skinnier than Mathew McC- in Dallas Buyer’s Club…. I later – scoot close enough to catch kid’s name— Jakub Galvis ( D guy in draft)…. Kid is Pencil thin!!!
Iacopelli– scored several goals, strong hard wrist shot, skating not as bad as I remembered… Hands are a little hard- Handling/receiving puck
Luke Johnson- was noticeable- quick stick to strip players
From- made some mental mistakes
Sikura- by far the best SKILLED Player from both groups- skater, shooter, passer…. he is as shifty as Kane … albeit versus other Kids…. and mostly open ice type drills… but has way more SKILL than any other in camp… I know- the word is ” he needs to get stronger/bigger”… I just don’t see him getting much bigger… he is 22 all ready… and still looks under 170lbs…
Highmore- was good/active/buzzing- much better than Monday
Soderlund- kid is quick, and never stops flying,,, non-stop motor
Radke – has a heavy shot
Knott- powerful strong skater- kind of Saad like stride (not as fast- but powerful)
he also has a heavy shot
Ian Mitchell- quick feet, I really love this kid’s Jump… long- shot because of size (tiny)… but the kid really stands out to me
Tuulola- I really like him too
Tomkins- made several 10 BELL SAVES– had everyone in awe!!!
Lastly- I didn’t see Foo- ??? anyone know why??? I really loved this kid- and I predict could be as good or better than Sikura– who would be the most skilled Guy In Hogs camp this year (if he wasn’t going back to College)
Sikura- imo- like TT was a waste in Rockford- cuz he was so much better/played quicker than rest ( Rockford- didn’t help TT- skilled player- needs to play with skill- TT never improved board game/or got stronger)… I really don’t think Rock is gonna do much for Sikura… put him with Kaner and let him play… just my 2 cents on that
I liked Dahlstrom too– kid has a heavy shot- decent size- ok skater…
kind of surprised he is going to Play in SHL #2 league???
I don’t see how the A team has a chance in scrimmage versus B team Friday!!!
..,agree with Wall! TEUVO? Chalk up another bad deal by Bowman. What else is new!
As a HOSSA fan, I simply want to see how he is doing. Lemieux, Koivu and others met the media when they spoke about their cancer. But, I respect his privacy. Hopefully, if he retires or gets traded when get to see him.
Hopefully, the HAWKS do not spend their time with building the DEBRINKAT HYPE!!!
Other players with size and speed should be considered first!!!
At this point I really dont know why hawks fans bother following prospects anymore. lets take D-cat as an example. lets all watch him get better at each level and talk about him for years and then when he finally gets to the hawks and starts making contributions lets trade him to carolina because they overpaid another player. then lets take some of the salary cap savings (provided by giving away the future)and use it to sign a veteran to this great deal on the cheap. Problem is the veteran cant skate anymore so they get their doors blown off in the first round. oh and then that veteran who cant skate anymore goes into the front office. overall bowman has been a good gm. however rule one is dont trade away the future to win now when your not close and the hawks were not close in the playoffs last year. thats on bowman
Yeah Pete the Blackhawks didn’t win 3 cups or go to conference finals a couple of other occasions agree a total waste of time.
Bondra with a filthy shot
#Blackhawks @Dsikky11 beats his man and blasts one in for a goal. @ByScottPowers ‘s boy
Randovan Bondra scores, team white leads 3-1
Hey guys. @Dsikky11 putting on a show here at prospect camp.
As predicted- B team would kill Team A…. I finally got one right!!! lol
Bondra shot– HEAVY!!! Ovechkin like there in the highlite!
i love your response ian. its basically since the hawks have won in the past fans don’t get to criticize decisions. that ship sailed for me at the close of the nashville series that wasnt competitive.
Is was reading that the Hawks might not have cap room to have DCat in the lineup even if he is ready. That’s ashame if that’s the case. SB needs to figure out some long term and short term goals. I agree with Pete that this current core doesn’t have enough talent to be a contender. No Hossa,Pararin, Hammer, and Kruger. SB needs to look at this roster objectively because there are lots of holes.
I I look at this roster as far as talent and age I’d rank them the following for importance;
And the rest is a ton of question marks. I’m just hoping this a playoff team this season. If any of the top 4 guys get hurt and miss significant time forget it. Playoff streak over
No Pete my response is that we got what we asked for over a number of years and in my case it was a 45 year wait for it. No a couple of disappointments and its like nobody had anything to cheer about and I find that hard to understand. Sshawk if Debrincat plays good enough to help the team he’s there to suggest otherwise is not reasonable. He may need some time to adapt but if he can help he will be given the opportunity.
ian do hawks fans get to criticize the team for decisions they disagree with or do we all have to be so grateful for prior winning that its not allowed? and if its the latter then how long before fans can be critical? unless you believe fans can never be critical your on what we say in the world of law is a “slippery slope”. fact is last years playoffs were a disaster so somebody made a miscalculation. if they were competitve in that series i wouldnt be saying this. they werent. and bringing back patrick sharp (no matter how cheap)to try to cover up the end of last year wont help either if i am allowed to make that prediction
Pete if you want to criticize thats up to you but doesn’t mean somebody can’t disagree with you. Forceful discussion and not personal attacks although we tend to forget is why we are here. As far as Sharp (I mentioned back in January the possibilty of a 35+ contract then) the cap hit was right, doubted he would sign that cap friendly a deal but the return he gives remains to be seen. Surgery, concussions and father time would suggest that he playing a full season would be an accomplishment and a top 6 role probably not going to happen, but for the caphit he got certainly worth a shot.
I believe what made the Hawks successful was exactly what Pete is trying to say, prospects, not over the hill players like Rosy who takes up room and cap for no reason while we let go a player like Stephen Johns. The Cup teams for most part where home grown players with a few savy ( Savoir faire) trades for Ladd and Sharp. I think when things go wrong we need to calmly analyze the reasons. I believe drafting low in the first round does not mean you cannot be successful. Teuvo and Danault were pretty good! But to trade those 1st rounders for nothing in return is as Pete mentioned is all on Stan Bowman. It’s hard for Hawk fans to get excited about Dylan Sicura or DeBrinkat??? Too many smallish draft picks.
Players who can skate and score like Bickell, Ladd, Sadd, Buff and play hard nose hockey are not part of Bowman’s plan anymore ( apart from Sadd whom he drafted). I believe if you want Kane to carry this team once again and Toews to be back , players in that mold ( not Vinny, Sicura, Panarin, or DeBrinkat) need to be part of our draft process. A player like Evander Kane for example.
Sorry, Saad!!! Excuse my French!
Brouwer is another good example!
Players who were tough to play against!!! DeBrinkat is a wasted pick!!!
I think DCAT will make a difference. He will play defense as well or better than Panarin and will score more than TT.
ok ian. fair point. thanks. certainly i hope the sharp signing works out
Savoir of the players you mentioned I agree Denault was tough one to lose, could be very valyabke now but Johns has done virtually nothing and as far as TT the jury is still out and even if Campbell wasn’t resigned there was still a 2.5 to 3 m shortfall there to make up, we know it unfortunately played out for Bickell.The money just wasn’t there to sign to sign everyone so Buff and Ladd were a business decision which was the right one. Evander Kane could probably be the worst move of Blackhawk GM this era tying up 5m in likely wasted cap space. Lets give the young guys their chance before writing them off ,that’s kind of ironic isn’t it.
I meant Johns did virtually nothing to make me want him back.
Johns was drafted 7 years ago and has played 75 nhl games. He turns 26 in April. Maybe hes not as good as he is hyped.
Carolina was shopping Teuvo. Not as good as he is hyped. I was big fans of both. Was at Teravainen’s debut against Dallas. His trading to Carolina was because of the Bickell contract. A contract that was forced on Stan by McDonough.
The front office dynamic is much more complex than you think. It’s not the elder Bowman making decisions using Stan as his puppet. Nor was it ever the case. MCD put a mandate to re sign Bickell. Yet Stan is the one that gets hammered for the contract.
It’s nice seeing Wall step away from the From love.
Regarding Debrincat and not fitting him in this year. That’s simply not true. Debrincat needs to show his junior numbers have some substance professionally. His world junior performance 2 years ago was less than stellar. And he wasn’t on this year’s team. His contract slides again if hes in Rockford so i fail to see it as a travesty if hes not in Chicago. I actually like the comp Mike made on Debrincat. Same or better D as Panarin. And more offense than Teravainen. That works for me.
It’s funny. Ladd trade 1…great trade. Ladd trade 2…one everyone wanted but one I warned about ( his numbers decreased each of the 3 previous years) viewed as a fail. Yet you say those are the types of players you want. Kind of talking out of both sides of your mouth eh?
Pete, you and I have differed on the Teravainen move. That’s not a move I will criticize Stan of. Nor will I criticize the Sharp trade. Both prospects are players i really liked, but still was able to acknowledge there flaws. Thats something a lot have trouble with. Over valuing your own guys. I be critical of other deals a lot of people here wanted at the time, yet time from those dealsmakes people forget. I didnt want Ladd back. I understand why they did. But I liked Dano (at the time, not as much now) and a first on top of that as well was a big pill. I dont like deadline deals for the most part. Look at the Hanzal deal for the wild. Wild were rolling, got Hanzal and they imploded. Team dynamic changed.
Lots of people wanted Oduya. I didnt think he was necessary. The Hawks didn’t give up much for him. But they did burn cap space. Space they could have used to apply to overages.
I didnt like the Danault deal either. These are all deals I was critical of at the time and am still. Fewer people liked that deal, but a lot of guys liked Fleischmann and liked the grit Weise brought.
Have to agree Ernie that the strategy of beating your cap issues with deadline deals is not a very successsful one but will no doubt see a couple of deals by Bownan during this season hopefully more successful and maybe earlier.
One thing this season the old devil you know is better than the one you don’t may not play such big part in trade decisions.
Somebody went to see the kids yesterday?
Somebody went to see the future hawks in the past week ?
Any comments on all those players ?
Wall had a pretty good breakdown.
Found this from another site…
pretty interesting that I pretty much summed a lot of these thoughts up in my Camp thoughts/posts… I will add – I do think Knott is faster than this guys thinks ( but not Saad fast)… and that Parker Foo- I am going out on a limb- is a younger/bigger version of Sikura… who we both agree was the most skilled/impressive in camp… to add- We both loved the potential of Ian Mitchell- Pounces on plays… and the Funny- my thoughts of John Dahlstrom- kid has heavy, accurate shot… doesn’t do anything great… but somehow- shows up on the score sheet.
here is link
Wingels broke his foot.
I thought this article was about Brian Campbell’s retirement, not about prospect camp.
Dave…their is nothing about prospect camp so far …so …why not talk about the kids in the System … ;)
ernie i had no problems with stans deadline deals two years ago. The hawks had a great team and should have beaten st louis. Wiese should have dressed in all 7 games. In my opinion they lost that series becaue Q dressed the wrong players in the first few games so they got in a hole and the blues goalie got them through game 7 at home. everyone says hawks get better as a playoff series goes along. Thats because Q finally starts to figure out who to dress after botching the lineup in the first few games of a series. The teravainen deal really sucked because losing him watered down the hawks talent/skill advantage in matchups through the whole lineup. We all know that the addition/subtraction of a player can impact the matchups in the whole lineup in a series more than that players individual contributions. This was proven correct in the nashville series. There is no excuse for that horrendous deal and Bowman should bring TT back if possible.
Teravainen was not the reason the Hawks lost. He’s skilled sure. But he’s also very soft. Being soft in a series like Nashville doesn’t help your cause. He’s a guy that needs time and space to be successful and has trouble when youre overwhelmed with pressure.
Teuvo is a very skill player but not focus on getting better and stronger…he is a bit lazy to work in off season …he works enought to stay good but cant imagine seeing him doing big training like McDavid and other stronger players who really wants to become better players .maybe in a few years he will get to the next level but i dont think so …..he his a natural without having that big passion ….to become the best .
I really think Hawks had the best man for Panarin …Sadd( mini Hossa) is a good player , not a miniHossa anymore. Good 2 way player ,strong power forward ,can park himself in front of the goal ,can goin the corner ,fast,Strong, dont make big mistake , ca play many places on the ice.i Stil think Hawks have a better Team with Saad in the lineup.
Its an objective fact that the hawks playoff team against st louis was a lot better than the hawks playoff team that got blown away by nashville. What changed during that one year to account for that? Of course they were going to lose some players because of the cap but the TT trade didnt need to happen and in my opinion that hurt the team a ton last year in the playoffs and going forward? Was nashville better than st louis? I would say yes, but still a 4-0 sweep? Hawks fans should stop glossing over the disaster of last years playoffs. Without TT they lost the talent edge down the lineup and they could never roll all the lines. TT doesnt have to be a superstar to have the impact Im talking about.
Pete TT will quite probably be available during the season again. If the cost Carolina is asking isn’t too high it might happen and could fill the 2nd line need or bolster 3rd with a cap hit that leaves room for more moves after ltir done. The biggest concern I have in the short term is Tab going to print another article to post on before training camp.
Id take last year’s hawks over the 15/16 version.
That’s an opinion, just like yours.
I don’t get all the T.T. love……
Teuvo Teravainen – 2016/2017 Carolina:
I would prefer having Teuvo instead of Tanner Kero or DeBrinkat who did not crack the US junior team back in Christmas. He had playing making potential.
I hope Schmaltz gets a chance at centre. He has those same play making abilities TT had. If Bowman drafts centres like Teuvo or Schmaltz, then Q needs to give them a chance to develop .
Savoir comment utilise notre talent!!!!0
I am curious to see Fortin and Iacopelli at training camp!
Oduya signed wif the Senators.
Good chance see a fair bit of younger players early as probably won’t make too many deals until the cba settled in case of a stoppage. I’m sorry Motte is gone so soon as he could be a player who needs a little time to adapt before you can judge him. He may be a sleeper in that deal.
Except Schmaltz loses far more draws than is acceptable when you play center. Schmaltz played wing in college…mainly because he was 41% at the dot. Last year with 270 draws he was 30.9%.
As good as Schmaltz is going to be, even getting better at faceoffs 45%, when he gets completely settled in and the when he starts his prime yrs, you got to be in that 48-50% to be center. That’s with 2 of the 4 center being really good, 19/10, 19/16 before wrist/arm injury.
Notice it was a top two way FW in league and a defensive specialist who were the most draw guys. Other guys can fill in ok, like 10, 91, 26 and 65 were around 50%.
So its fine if 15 and 3rd line center are between 45-50, as long as we have 2 really good faceoffs guys. We need another defensive specialist that’s etween 52.5-55% faceoffs.
Saader can drive a line from LW, so 8 can if he is going to drive.
Lets wait until Schmaltz fails before we write him off. This is where I think Granato will make a big difference is confidence issues for the younger guys and that may be what he needs to be a complete center faceoffs included. Obviously the Blackhawks hope he can be a top 6 player and eventually at center but he is one who could thrive under Granato ‘s tutelage this season.
TT sucks…. good for European league…. shouldda traded that puke for Ryan Kessler when he was avail. From Vancouver…Bowman is not his daddy… Hawks done… Keep drinking the koolaid…. Winder whose gunna gobble up all this seasons & nexts at current prices?…. LMFAOOOOOO
Build team with small frail european players who GET POUNDED…. see how far you go….
If Drew Stafford still available at start of season and would sign a one year deal for 1.5m range be worth it, I think so.
SCHMALTZ is a talented centre no matter what his face off record is. Let him learn.
I think he should be the following:
SHARP TOEWS PANIK
SAAD SCHMALTZ KANE
JURCO ANISIMOV HARTTMAN
BOUMA DAUPHIN WINGELS
Look at top three centres now????
Much better and the top two lines have players with size and grit a centre and on the wing, with two scorers like KANEW and SHARP. ANISIMOV is where he belongs on the 3rd line with two young wingers. And a fast, gritty 4th line!!!
Keep VINNY as a centre who can also play right winger and either FORTIN or HAYDEN as extra winger.
NOOOOOOO TANNER KERO PLEASE!!! Back in ther AHL where he belongs…
Problem here is if COACH Q goes back to KERO on the 3rd line and moves SCHMALTZ on the wing, this will disrupt NICK’s development as a future 2nd centre.!!!!
If the RANGERS buy out Mark Staal, he would make a nice pairing with CONNOR MURPHY!!!
Except the buy out period ended June 30th. If Schmaltz was a center he would have played there during college.
Rangers only be eligible for another buyout if they didn’t sign rfas before arbitration; avoided arbitration so no more buyouts this year.
Totti- I like your 2nd line///all lines…. Kero is average
Hawks gonna land Butcher??? Nice add if they do… That Denver Team looked way faster across the board all year… Butcher was a big part of that!!!!
Hawks could use him
I think when you take a look at Rockfords lineup there’s a glut of centerman there and have the potential to put up good faceoff numbers. How NHL ready they are is the question. Dauphin looks ready but doesn’t do much to address that concern. Noel and Highmore may nee? time in AHL and others like Hayden, Hino and Knott are probably better as wingers who can play center. Luke Johnston is strong there but how much of an asset would he be overall. I would like to see Fortin get an opportunity to try 3rd center as he worked on his draws last season and put up impressive numbers in the Q league. If Sharp stays healthy it seems sooner rather later he will play with 88 and 15 while 20, 19, 14 quite probably play together a 3rd line of Fortin 8 and 38 with Fortin taking the bulk of the draws and utilizing hus speed on tbe wing could be effective and Sharp taking rightside draws for 15 and the bleeding on the dot could be stopped. A 4th line of Jurco on one wing with Bouma or Wingels for center and other wing looks plausible.
If Butcher signed to a large bonus deal that limits ltir room as at end of season ltir room used and bonus overages used count against 10% over cap limit you can be. But if he is signed hopefully and the Fransen deal happens you could have a nice blend of experience and youth together on blueline pairs.
If Sharp is the answer for 19 or 88 the Hawks are in trouble. They seem to be one player short, it is too bad.
I’d rather go with youth and energy to fill the whole vs. Sharpie.
Noonan I agree just thinking Q will be chomping at the bit to put him there.
If Butcher come here he would have to hit those bonuses…which would be unlikely aside from games played as at best he’d be competing for 3rd pair ice. A lot of guys want to see him in the A for this year. Keith, Seabrook, Kempny. Murphy, and probably Forsling make camp. Rozsival is number 7. So you’re looking for a bottom pair that’s ideally a right shot. Butcher is left.
Darren Raddysh-R (AHL contract)
Even if Butcher signs. Lots of guys will piss and moan because of his size.
Yeah thats right $850,000 for A bonuses is the max he would probably hit any B bonuses unlikely to be in the picture. Still between that added to Schmaltz and Hino is about 1.7 m and Rutta $425,000 and any of a number of others $182,500 your up in the 2.3m overage range again plus Hossa’s salary thats over your 7.5 m or 10% your allowed to be over at end of season and all off season .
Franson is a right shot and would fit nicely. He had the best shots for % of any Sabre regular last season, not really saying much
I guess the Pokka / Rutta experiment is out of Franson signs as our 3rd right handed Dman.
Franson good for a reasonable cap hit but not if his ask is too high.
Isn’t Butcher an Avs prospect?
They still have Oesterle as well
Noonan, They seem to be one player short, it is too bad.
Its a good thing then we have Hoss caphit space to add a good player.
Noonan, not disagree think we add someone with ltir and prob depth at deadline/center faceoffs.
Ian, good point on Sharpy being 50% career faceoffs can win a lot of draws being on 2nd line.
Technically butcher is an Avs prospect until August 15. He completed his 4 years of college and once August 15 comes he can sign anywhere. It has been confirmed he will not sign with the Avs. So August 15 he is an unrestricted free agent that can be signed to a 2 year elc
Hawks sign goalie Collin Delia.
And the preds locked up Johansen…8 yrs @ 8 per. They’re hoping compartment syndrome didn’t screw him up.
Thanks for the info ernie. Has he hinted at signing with the Hawks or are the Hawks interested?
He’s from Madison. Rumor has it it’s the Hawks and Leafs are frontrunners with pretty much every team interested. Thought I heard his agent say they’ll listen to anyone and that there is no nhl mandates. Another player that will probably do the same thing is Devils draft pick Alex Kerfoot. Harvard product from BC.
Good stuff Ernie. Mark my words. Rosy will block a shot in training camp that will leave him hobbled and the Hawks will put him on injured reserve. Essentially he will be a one man practice squad.
I think Oesterle will make the Hawks. Great skater, well coached at Western Michigan by Andy Murray. Quenneville is not a fan of Pokka. So he is on the Mark McNeil program so to speak, really good AHL player in need of an NHL opportunity but Q is like “nah”
Q was the same way with McNeill. He got a look at him and his game and shook his head, “nah”. I hear the same thing about Pokka.
They Hawks brass really really like Kempny. They believe he is a legitimate NHL solid defenseman. In fact, they are so convinced of that, they had no interest of bringing Campbell or Oduya back.
That’s what I know as we head toward August.
Oesterle will definitely compete for a 6 or 7 Dman spot, he brings a similar game to TVR”‘s being versatile enough to play both sides and can log alot of minutes if needed. He is the type who does whats asked of him and Q likes those guys.
Kempny will defintely get the opportunity to show he belongs this season but with a 1 year 6 figure deal and an ufa you would think he needs to show his A game this year or the younger defensemen will be moving ahead of him.
Blackhawks as now ufas in 2018 Bouma, Wingels, Sharp, Tootoo, Kempny, Rozival, Rutta, Svedberg and Glass rfas in 2018 Hartman, Jurco, Hayden, Dauphin, Hino, Gustafsson, Pokka and Baun. 2019 ufas as of now Panik, Oesterle and Berube rfas in 2019 Schmaltz, Kero, Forsberg, Forsling, Kampf, Noel, Delia, Louis , Iacopelli, Norell, Dahlstrom, Johnson and probably Sikura signs a 2yr elc this year and burns 1st one after ncaa season and next year be his last elc yr.
Some raises for sure but nothing to break the bank there. So resigning prospects and Going after free agents or trading up instead of dumping cap look to be very probable in the next few years.
Oh were adding and young guys get better each yr. Maybe that Islanders guy.
Impressed by how the Pens keep everyone signed and happy!!! No salary dumps! And prospects continue to make their lineups! How do their GM make it work? And they seem to have better relationships with the agents!
I really like VinnyH at Centre! He does make things happen! But why waste a pick if you cannot play him at his natural position because he is too small to play wing. He was impressive when he replaced an injured Toews early in the year. This is what sets Bowman back with draft picks like this.