Darling Not Enough Against Rangers
On Friday night, the Blackhawks and Rangers came into a prime time match-up missing some key players. Chicago was without Jonathan Toews and Brent Seabrook, and New York didn’t have Rick Nash available.
Both teams rolled with their backup goaltenders as well. Henrik Lundqvist watched from the bench and Corey Crawford is still on IR, so the battle was between Scott Darling and former Hawk Antti Raanta.
For 60 minutes, the story was the goalies. It appeared the Hawks had beaten Raanta in the third period, but the Rangers challenged that Hossa was offside on the play. The officials agreed and the game stayed tied at zero.
Darling made 36 saves in regulation. Raanta made 26. Neither team scored.
Unfortunately, Nick Holden was able to slip a puck past Darling 55 seconds into overtime to secure the second point for the visitors.
Chicago was credited with ten hits in the game, five of which came from Ryan Hartman. Without Seabrook available and with Michal Kempny again watching from the press box, Duncan Keith led the way with three blocked shots. Hartman and Patrick Kane led Chicago with four shots on net each.
Toews has now missed eight games with an upper-body injury.
Outstanding games by both goalies…
Raanta with better numbers than all of Crow, LundQ, Darling!!!
Darling+Raanta++ $3-4M Cap= Shaw Stays in Chicago and Hawks better- imo
Wall—
I’m sorry, but your opinion is wrong. Crow is a top-5 or better goalie in the world, and worth every penny of his cap hit.
Crow + Hartman > Raanta + Shaw
Gyros- my gripe about Crow… he is worthy of $6M… but just not Coming out of the Hawks Cap/budget- when they all ready have $21M (roughly 29% of Cap- allocated to 2 players)… Crow is a very -very good goalie…
How/Why- is Raanta numbers better??? Darlings #’s identical to Crows??? Chance- or are they pretty solid too??? w/ $5Million in cap savings
Lastly- your Equation is missing something
Crow +Hartman Crow
Stop it……Many times I do not agree with Wall. That said, his opinions on what the Hawks COULD do with an extra $2 to $5mm in Cap space are as valid as any on this sight. Please disagree without the inflammatory remarks. Most of us simply don’t care to see them.
Yes- Management picked Schmaltz over Fabbri… and to this date… clearly Schmaltz has scored more than Fabbri… NOT!!!
Fabbri- 99 games 26 g, 27 a
Management- is Never wrong …
Which backup Goalie are you referring to??? Darling or Raanta?
They both- have posted as good or better Numbers as Crow this year… and it’s NOT just one game sample size… furthermore, another $4-5M player skating in front of ANY goalie… I am guessing… that Team/Goalie would even have a better chance of posting even better #’s… Is that too logical for you?
The team/system is being dis-credited when you chose to ignore that –
Emery/Crow had virtually same #’s 2013 (and Emery is a BUM)
Darling/Crow have very similar stats this year??? Just dumb Puck luck I guess…
AND I really do think that Crow is better than Darling
It was an entertaining game to watch with both keepers putting on a show. Had either team lifted some shots towards upper end of the nets there would have been goals a plenty. Some spectacular, acrobatic saves made at both ends of the ice though.
Hawks actually played a pretty darn good 1st period last night for a change.
So Kane gets cross checked by Stahl, and then boarded by Holden with no calls. While it could be called a selfish penalty Kane took in retaliation against Miller? who gave an indication he was also coming after Kane, I understand Kaner’s frustration.
Refs did Hawks zero favors. I have no problem with the Hossa goal being disallowed. At some point that offside challenge rule will benefit the Hawks. However, why didn’t Q challenge the Jets goal last weekend that showed Dano offside? BTW, UC Hawks fans saw zero replays of the disallowed goal last night via the offside ruling. Not one replay. Typical of the UC to show paying fans far less than the TV fans get. Why is this? Other arenas show way more replays than the Hawks do. I just don’t get it. Winning Rags goal last night was clearly too many men on the ice, but no call there either. Enough of that Raanta.
Is it just me, or does Panik just take games off? This guy is big and strong and can really put the body on opposing teams effectively, when he feels like it. When Panik plays a physical game his total game gets better. I can’t believe the coaches are not hammering this point home to the guy.
Larmer tribute last night was not as well received as I thought it would be or should have been. It is almost as though there are too many younger fans that just have no idea how good Larms really was. I tried to start a hall of fame chant, but there were no takers in my section. What’s a guy to do??
Lets hope the guys bring a strong effort against a not so great at the moment Stars team tomorrow. Come back Seabs and Toews asap.
Lets Go Hawks!
Sorry. I meant to write Staal, not Stahl….
Lloyd. I have to agree with you. I like Eddie he is very observant and astute. For instance he spotted the off sides on the winning goal by Winnipeg last Sunday. He makes great points on defensive positioning all the time. BUT Foley and his antecdotes about the past or his rambling about something that happened years ago, while the play is going on, has become absolutely nauseating. It’s borderline unwatchable.
If 81 and 38 settle in with 19 when returns we could be looking at 4th line come playoffs of 64 48 8 alot of speed and skill to put out against other teams 4th lines. Rangers one of top teams like the way darling played gotta credit tvr for stepping up in seabrooks absence but he did a hell of a job
Well well well well, the high oh mighty Rangers who have scored the most gf in league. 0-0 shutout shutout tie in regulation hockey, there is nor 3on3 shootout crap in playoffs. Well we actually score and I guess it was offsides. I think we had more important players out then they did, but they were two in two days so.
Funny how that is when WIN was offsides on their first goal and they didn’t waive it off on instant replay, otherwise that’s a 1-1 tie (or we get 2 pts in 3on3). Same thing here, getting short end of stick on every instant replay (not whether its offsides or not) just they review our goals and donot the other teams goals (when everyone of them should have been waived off). Rangers had too many men on ice in the 3on3 and it wasn’t reviewed/waived off.
Even though Rannta has better numbers I think him and Darls are about the same, 7-1 and 6-2-2 (a tie difference). His numbers are that good because they had a lot of DLR blowout 5-0 wins in the first 5 or so games (maybe 10 games) when no tea was up to speed yet.
You have to throw out the numbers for the first 5 or so games (or 10) because no team is up to speed yet. They might still have most gf and diff but those numbers they have are misleading just like our PK numbers in the first 10 games. Are they that good on OFF and are we that bad on PK, from the stats only from first 5 or so/10 games, no. Once teams settled in, they are not winning like that anymore and our PK is back to normal. Each prob/being top 5/10. Cambell conference still has a lot more good defensive teams/teams that play defense.
This game reminds me of the two against them in 2015. Each were low scoring fast pace good stuff. Would like to see the team that deserves the two pts in the 4th game of these 4 get it not on an offsides goal reviewed or a too many men on ice goal not reviewed.
Cant wait until we get Tazer back hes a better player and ma then Nosh.
man.
Tootoo 4 and half mins. motte and desi 9 mins. Moose 10 and a half and hino 11 mins. need more mins from bottom 6
Wall, you donot have to justify. Everybody important/blog veteran knows your right about goalie concept, whether they would rather keep keep or go with another top FW/Defenseman.
Phil, that’s what pisses me off. Not ever blaming refs but they need to be evenly reffed games (and I donot mean the same amount of calls to each team). That’s a 5min boarding to a top player. The trip on Hartman after that, reminds me of the dangerous trip on (I cant remember)(Bread Man) our guy who went into the boards. No suspension what so ever, because its that NY team. League is a fucking disgrace with this stuff.
Had our annual Christmas office party last night and it was a hoot so I missed the game, Checked on the phone, told everyone we won 1-0. Got home and it’s 1-0 allright but for the wrong team.
You may have something there Morrison about the “NY” team.
Too many men on the ice and they let it go, with 3 on 3?
In a kind of way I’m glad I did not see that. Sucks.
Have a 90sec tv timeout after every goal to review every goal for offsides, high stick play, glove pass. They have tv timouts every/a lot of whistles anyways. Save the coaches challenge for puck across the line or is there a puck cover by hand rule in the crease, whats that.
That’s why we need 3d instant replay like tennis. Chip in puck and in posts, goal light automatically comes on.
Make it easier on the refs and let them do regular penaltys. They cant even get those right at times. Without those other things in their heads maybe they do a better job at their job.
Wall crawford has proven his worth and earned his contract darlings time is coming and how he responds over the long haul unknown but still think keeping both is a good possibilty
Didn’t catch the whole game but very impressive saves and Raanta was old school-small, athletic and throwing his body at pucks-ala Hasek.
I think if Rannta/Darls were starters caphit would be between 2.5-4 and then there not as much extra. I do agree wi goalie concept just want to keep both dudes.
I like to keep Darls as well, as long as caphit not too high. Then when Crows older Darls can keep it rolling.
The core 19,88,81,15,16,2,4,7, and 50 is 56.37 mil rest under contract 38,48 64,8, fortin and a role forward at league min. because thats what stan does plus 42,57 and svedberg for no.7 is 7.2 mil which makes 63.7 mil rfas 70 14 &6 plus 33 signed for 3.8 mil and 3.5mil in bonuses equals 70.9 mil. If cap only goes to 75 as bettman suggests that leaves 4.1 fir pinarin with 13 fwds 7d and 2goalies signed. Why would he sign for that because its only helping with cap and not taking less in the big picture andthe hawks treated him right allowing him to make bonuses last 2 yrs . If he signs say 4.1 for next year and a 8 yr. Deal in fall with 2.4 mil signing bonus he gets his money july 1st when contract kicks all final payments from previous year due june 30th when year expires so its one day difference to quibble over it is foolish. So his new deal is for 8yrs at 6.5 per the max allowed so you have him locked up for 9 yrs at 6.5 per actually till he s 35at 4.1 plus 2.6 in bonuses from this year for a 6.7 mil hit next year and a 6.8 mil for next 8 after that. If bonuses less or cap higher or say expansion draft we lose kruger anybody else wouldn t impact salary cap you could say don t need to do that i disagree if you can lock pinarin up that way any thing more could be used to improve your roster. Plus if contract goes a bit higher in money it doesn t impact next years hit and is factored in in 2yrs. Time when no big signings due
Second city has a picture of the too may men.
Seabs is skating at practice.
Lloyd and Craig beat me to the punch. I am not in the Chicago area so don’t see too many games called by the home broadcasters but last night was embarrassing. In addition to wishing half of Chicagoland a happy birthday Foley twice said “great save by Ranta” when it was Darling. He has had an incredible career but he needs to focus on the calling the game before he becomes a caricature.
On the bright side Hartman continues to make solid progress and hopefully he will start to bury some of the chances he is getting. Thought that line was strong all night. Q and staff are doing an amazing job with a very limited forward group. We better get used to low scoring games as it may be our only choice.
Was anyone else disappointed that no one challenged Holden after the Kane boarding? I am hoping it was because the game was so tight. I sure hope someone (Tootoo or Hartman?) steps up next Tuesday when we are in the garden.
Ian, good post. Donot know why people think we cant keep guys from now on going forward. We already paid our dues now its time to get better each yr with young guys and top core in hockey. Lots and lots of good yrs to come.
The NHL needs to be more consistent with the blue line, entering the zone the puck must be completely across the line before other players, but once the the puck can be on the line and the play is still on sides. Why not have the blue line be on sides for both events, the rule impacted the game, hawks deserved better
If there going to be that picky about offsides, fine. Then they should be whistle for everytime the puck is not a center line for dump teams as well.
Whatever they go by, they need to go by across the board. These things should make it easier for the refs and they need it. Nothing against the refs but they need to do the same for each team and they donot.
Rules are rules, then call the penaltys that are done by bigger physical over the line but not get called penalty type teams. If that’s the way ruel is written, then rewrite rule so its better (that’s how the rules got to where they are in the first place).
Boarding in back is ok though. To think that they let that team get away with cheap shots because their salty east coast bias NY pisses me off. Tripped 72 into the boards, nothing. Really pisses me off. Its like that coach/NY are allowed.
Panik seems to be snake bitten-posts, called back goals and point blank shots off the goalie’s head, shoulders-
they need some scoring from anyone.
Wonder if switching 15 and 16 on lines till 19 back be a boost
I s Toews going to play again this year or has he had another concussion i dont think its a lower or upper deal . its like 19 has become a ghost; B