Delia, Blackhawks Top Avalanche
The Blackhawks flew to Denver after a good, winning performance in Denver on Thursday night. Collin Delia, recalled to fill in for Corey Crawford, got the call for his first start of the season – only the third appearance of his NHL career.
And he was facing one of the most powerful offenses in the NHL in Colorado.
So how do the Hawks get him up to NHL speed? Allow 14 shots on net in the first period.
Chicago might have been out-shot 14-9 in the first but they scored the only goal of the opening 20 minutes. Alex DeBrincat stayed hot, and the Hawks finished the first period with a lead for the second time in as many nights.
JT Compher tied the game in the second period, but Delia continued to play exceptionally well. Colorado held a 24-16 shot advantage after 40 minutes but the game was tied because the Hawks were willing to block shots, had active sticks and Delia was on his game.
Only 79 seconds into the third period, Patrick Kane exploded up the ice and rifled a shot on net. It slipped through Philipp Grubauer and Artem Anisimov tapped the puck the final couple inches into the net to give the Hawks a 2-1 lead.
The goal was huge for the Blackhawks on the ice, but was historic for Kane.
The helper also put him past Craig Janney for the 3rd most career assists by a US-born player at age 30 or younger (542. Most: 610- Phil Housley from 1982-95) https://t.co/ywYJAjgJWs
— StatsCentre (@StatsCentre) December 22, 2018
Delia continued to make big save after big save and the Hawks were able to hang on. A shot at the empty net hit a post with a couple seconds left in regulation but effectively ended the game.
Delia came up huge and earned a goalie win on the road in Colorado – no easy feat. He stopped 35 of 36 to earn two points for the Hawks.
The Blackhawks have now played three games in four nights – against pretty good teams – and Chicago has now won all three.
Brent Seabrook blocked a team-high six shots in the game. Erik Gustafsson and Connor Murphy blocked four each; it was good to see Murphy on the ice, much less playing well, after taking a high elbow to the face on Thursday night in Dallas. Gustafsson’s 23:16 led all Blackhawks skaters in the game.
Kane and Anisimov led the way with four shots on net each up front. Jonathan Toews was the only forward to skate more than 20 minutes in the game (21:51) and he won 14 of 23 faceoffs.
Colorado came in with the third-ranked power play in the NHL and were held to 0-for-5 in the game; they generated six shots on goal in five power play opportunities.
The three-game win streak for Chicago is the team’s first of the year and the first in the NHL career for coach Jeremy Colliton.
What a game by Delia, super start for him. Pk was outstanding all night and as article statescthe big shot block numbers, 22 i believe overall.
Legs looked heavy for alot of the game, tough time getting over own blueline but kept battling and enough opportunistic offense to get it done.
ONE OF THE BEST GAMES OF THE YEAR SO FAR!!!!
COLIN DELIA WHAT A GAME!!!!
Delia battled like Crawford tonight and was amazing!!! He was playing like a man possessed, we definitely need to see more of this guy this year.
So the Defenseman…. This will be an ongoing theme that needs to be applied if we are going to win games and not make trades for defenesman and that is limit Brent Seabrooks minutes. He has definitely shown the last two seasons that he is a bottom pair defenseman, it hurts me to say that but minutes can not lie. The last three wins he has had the least amount of icetime of any defenseman. The penalty tonight by him almost caused the Blackhawks to go to OT…. The other part of this is the younger defenseman are playing much better than him. Dahlstrom is being physical and Forsling is playing a very efficient game besides when he heels the puck. Gustafson with Keith is looking like a good option at this point…. Conor Murphy is also playing a physical more efficient game than last year. Colliton has done a nice job the last couple of games managing Seabrook and the defensive parings.
The only thing I still want to harp on is the powerplay… CAN WE PLEASE MAKE A TRADE FOR SOMEONE TO SHOOT THE PUCK MORE(PANARIN)!!!!!
Christmas Wishlist
Kane, Anismov, Panarin
Toews, Saad, Don’t Care….
Debrincat, Strome, Don’t Care….
Sikura, Kampf, Don’t Care….
Keith, Trade for someone(Chabott, Barrie, Gardiner)
Gustafson, Forsling
Dahlstrom, Murphy
One other note its just so much fun to watch Kane, when he wants to just turn it on and elevate his game…He will always be in the conversation of GOAT Chicago forwards.
What an interesting coincidence that the Hawks were doing great until Crow’s came back and now are doing great once he’s gone… I love Crow, but he wasn’t the same this year, not even close, bar a few good games.
What am I supposed to think now? After already writing off this season and concerning myself with what needs to happen to get back to contender status, possibly as early as the 2020/21 season – they go and string together 3 solid winning efforts and fan the flames of hope and dread at the same time.
As a Hawks fan I love to see them win, even knowing it could hurt our chances to draft one of the top players – can’t help it and don’t want to change it. But can this level of play continue – that’s the question isn’t it? To think this team can get back into playoff contention is a bridge too far at this point, but they could possibly win enough the get into the middle of the pack which would be the worst scenario. It will run it’s course regardless my musings … so I may as well enjoy the wins when they come.
It’s hard to not be excited by so many things these last couple games. And now, Delia shows up and plays outstanding. I like his competitive spirit – almost confrontational. Maybe we have a budding Billy Smith, which would be pretty cool.
I’ve noticed JC in the post game presser the last couple nights looks like he’s trying to suppress a grin from breaking out across his face. He’s got a Mona Lisa thing going – pretty funny. Nice to see though – he must feel like a load has been lifted off him.
As for not knowing what to think – maybe I’ll just try to park my brain and not think so much – just enjoy the ride.
Three wins in four nights against quality teams in their division. Colorado had a day off while the Hawks had to travel from Dallas to mile high elevation, which is not easy to adjust to in a few hours. What a performance from Delia. Hawks don’t have much of a chance to catch their breath before Sunday. Our young players are showing improvement.
I’m with you ER, no way you can root against these guys. We can dream of the draft during 8 game losing streaks and enjoy the development during 3 game win streaks.
Dylan Strome is going to be a really good player is this league. He goes to the blue paint and loves to play inside the dots. That’s huge. Nemeth stopped him from jamming one in, but that play will definitely work many times.
Connor Murphy. Brass Balls. After that elbow in Dallas, most baseball players would be on the DL for 21 to 60 days. Yet Murphy was out there blocking shots tonight. What a play in the 3rd period to cover for Forsling’s flub, 5 feet from our net. Murphy has benefited from the coaching change. He’s just playing as opposed to thinking.
Perlini out there in the last 60 seconds to lock down the victory. Colliton really seems to be pushing the right buttons with this kid. Wow.
Great week for us Hawk fans. Lots to like.
Our forwards are finally learning to back check and put pressure on the back side of teams entering our zone. I wish Ward would have given his speech in the locker room about 6 weeks ago.
Knox – excellent post
Sven- I am glad you said it,,, agree 100%
JC- got the Hawks Playing Man/Man D … amazing how Much better the Murphy/Dahlstrom/Forsling group is over the Utter guys!!!!
Now we Nix 7 and get the Joker in there…
I see The Hawks were “Pimping” the Up and coming D guys to the rescue soon with – Mitchell/Beaudin/Boqvist- in pre-game- those three should be golden with JC’s Man/Man D
Keith can still cover Man/Man (unlike Seabs)… great on McKinnon a couple of times…. BUT Keith is almost useless shooting the Puck these days… It’s either shin-pads or end-boards for Keith’s Shots these days
I don’t know if Colin Delia is the answer to a post-Crawford Blackhawks, but he was terrific in last nights game. Three wins against tough Division opponents in four days. I like Ward, he has played hard, but Delia has earned another start real soon.
It was fun to watch and they deserve the result in a tough building.
Knox agree also with most except getting Panarin and keeping AA-it would be NICE but impossible if adding even another salary after the BreadMan. Adding a Gardiner salary (Chabot if the only good story in Ottawa, along with Thachuk-Chabot going nowhere) is another 4 to 5 million–
I still don’t get how people gloss over the reality of money and Cap. It’s great to wish but…
Money in-money out
You would have less money for goalies next year, with Ward gone but you have a questionable Crow and a raw Delia-could work out or be a trouble spot-who knows?
Are a few wins going to change what ‘should’ be done?
Amazing what forechecking can do. They still make plenty of turnovers but get back and play D instead of letting the opponent invade our zone with an advantage. So far the Schmalz trade looks good with Strome being a weapon’, and Perkins busting his ass skating like a maniac. Even the power play is starting to look NHL like! Still need to shoot more, and score on breakaways- especially the Kampfs, Kahuns, Sikora’s,etc.
Sorry- damn autocorrect— Perlini not Perkins!
Very impressed with the game of Kampf, this kid can fly and will just get better. Reminds me of Bolland maybe faster. Kahun starting to show the skill they thought he had. Just good seeing this team buy into Collitons way of playing, like I said before this has been a learning experience for all even us fans.
Noonan not sure if you can rule Nalimov out the picture next year or not. He has still only played one game for new khl team yet. Didn’t start game today either. If he gets some playing time could be backup option too. Peeters left his ushl team in October and doesn’t appear to be playing anywhere. So outside of Delia being the real deal, its either Crawford or the a fa, trade route. Forsberg or Lankinen could still develop yet and be a option but seems alot to expect for next year now. Gravel having good year in juniors and gets to show his stuff in Memorial Cup in spring. Probably back to juniors and be in wjc mix for next year before he sees any time in Rockford though.
I don’t know if Delia will become a successful NHL goalie but it does seem like he is not getting much hype due to the fact he was undrafted. He led the Hogs to the conference final last year and according to the broadcasters last night he is leading the AHL in goals against average this year. One game will not make a career but he is definitely a real prospect.
Curious to hear other thoughts on Barry Smith. Until recently I had never heard the guy talk. He was portrayed as a villain lackey who was a spy for the Bowman’s. I’ve now seen a few interviews and he seems like a very knowledgeable and experienced coach.
MS – have to agree on Barry Smith – he was with Scotty Bowman in Detroit, he knows what he’s doing – the conspiracy theories are just that, theories
Read a piece on Delia – he seems like a more articulate than average hockey player and very focussed on constantly improving – my feeling is that he will be a successful NHL goalie and the future post Crow but we’ll see
If roster decisions were based solely on merit Seabs would come out for Joki when he’s back from WJC but I can’t see Colliton sitting #7 permanently like he has Kunitz so what do you do with Joki when he’s back?
Maybe if they play Seabs someone will take him at TDL for a Cup run if we retain some salary
As for the game last night – a gutsy win and a goalie win but you need those every so often to maintain a winning streak
Loving Murphy-Dahlstrom – I don’t see how you send Dahlstrom back
I have not gone to Hogs game this year ( not much to watch- IMO)…
But based on views of Camp/Pre-season… and following some stats… Gotta think that Nilsson/F and or Carlsson/D- might be the next guys called up if Needed due to injury- or Hawks just just not playing well…
Both play with lot’s of speed – and Might be in that JC- Man/Man theme (which Reminds me of how Redwings competed w/ Hawks in that Western Finals a few years ago)… guys like Kampf and Kahun seem very good at it… which suggests – SB/Hawks were “transitioning” to this over last few years ( as well as removing Q)
just a thought-
The Hawks D looks so much better now. Not sure what combination of learning new scheme -vs- personnel changes (Murphy, Forsling, Dahlstrom etc..) -vs- teams not taking the Hawks seriously is the reason for their recent success (a little from each I suspect…) but this team actually looks like an NHL squad again.
DeBrincat is the real deal, he score no matter where they play him in the lineup. He is not a physical specimen but he does not play afraid of contact. He learned how not to get lit up but still can go to the front of the net and generate dangerous scoring changes. I rarely see him making the same mistake twice. It is easy to see how and why he earned the coaches (Q and JC) trust so quickly and completely. I love watching this kid play.
As others have confessed, I too am conflicted by the win streak. I think this team needs to taste victory to not get into a prolonged funk. But I want a top 4 pick. Any one of Hughes, Kakko, Dach or Cozens would look great in a Hawks uniform next fall… Not saying “lose for Hughes” but what long term goal is accomplished by stealing a few games? Does anyone see this squad winning a seven game series against playoff team? Yeah, neither do I. Get a top 4 pick, sign a couple of elite free agents and then let’s talk playoffs and Cup runs. Winning now makes that so much harder. But, yeah that win last night was sweet.
Wall there could be a very good chance having Colliton spend a year in Rockford with some of these young players, that was the direction intended. Nilsson is up now so see how is inserted in the lineup.
May have played a role in Schmaltz trade too as his playing time and effectiveness dropped off under Colliton and Strome has responded positively to him.
Not conflicted about winning, a positive trend the rest of this year for the players to believe in the direction organization is headed, plus some positive development in all areas could be a huge gain. Still get decent picks for future as well.
What are we to do with all these d-men? There are the 6 that have played well in the 3 straight victories (2-56, 63-5, 42-7), then there is Manning, Davidson on IR, Rutta in Rockford, and Jokiharju on load to Finland in the U20 tourney. That’s 10.
Rutta and Davidson contracts expire after this season so let’s write them off – that get’s us down to 8 before any of Boqvist/Beaudin/Mitchell make the team. The point is something has to give … or go. For one reason or another Keith and Seabrook most likely will not be traded. So who then?
Murphy? Maybe, but he has a cap hit of almost $4M for 3 more years and although he’s played fairly well lately I wouldn’t want a $4M Murphy if I were the Hawks trade partner.
Forsling and Dahlstrom are just finishing their ELC contracts but they are still in that unproven category so the Hawks wouldn’t get much bang for the buck by trading them.
Manning isn’t worth his $2.25M contract for another year so he’ll get nothing back.
Joki is a rookie 1st round draft pick so he’s not going to get traded.
That leaves Gustafsson, who has an attractive $1.2M cap hit for one more year. We all know his defensive shortcomings but he has 8 goals an 18 points which is pretty good for a dman who wasn’t getting top PP time until only recently. So the dilemma is do you trade him now when his stats make him attractive knowing that he could go on and become a big time d-man scorer on another team? A few weeks ago most Hawks fans wanted to run him out of town on a rail, but now he doesn’t look as bad as he did then. I don’t know.
So why would we not trade Keith? He has an affordable contract for most cup contending teams that is reasonable especially Eastern conference teams so it won’t come back to bite us in the butt if we trade him to a central or western conference team. He can still bring back solid value maybe even a first rounder of a cup contending team.
ER, I always thought before game 1, after game 10 (6-2-2), during 0-6-2 and 0-8 stretch, and now 5 good games in 6 where we ‘played’ that were a mid-tier team and Not a bottom 10 team/let alone one of the two worst.
Sure record wise we suck, and are that, right after 0-6-2 stretch and again 0-8 stretch. What it is is we donot have a full roster. We know who we had playing to start and for the first 20-25 games. Knutz, Manning, others on D.
The sch and other things magnified the 0-6-2 and 0-8 stretchs.
Remember it took those stretchs to just get tied with LA.
The good thing at those times was the ‘real bottom 10 teams were all around a or 2 under .500 and now they are still there but two have emerged and are at 4. To close for my liking, in getting top 5 skill.
Like most, my expectations have been whittled down a lot since we placed ourselves to the bottom of the standings after a good start… just keeping Colo off the board on the PP in 5 attempts makes me happy.
the PP/PK is something I always find interesting, if not puzzling. The current team is actually doing better on the PP at home (16.7) than did recent teams that won 2 Cups and a third that finished with over 100 pts.
then again, its at 7.7% on the road right now….
I think were a mid-tier team, when with a full roster were top 10 team. After first 10 games, it looked like we were towards the top of the mid-tier teams, then 3-16 record/magnified by terrible play and very hard sch.
We need good young wave to emerge to get to top 5 team status. Rememebering with salary cap the top teams can only go so high, so we ll be right there again once these guys get established.
We all agree that the best thing for us is to get top 5 skill.
Why would we all of sudden play good and go 4-1-1 against top 10 teams (except PIT) when we take out Knutz Manning Ruuta and put in Dals and Murf.
We were playing without a full roster.
The whole time I havnt ever been routing again team for top 3 % pick. It was when we play good and should win/can win I wanted to win and got a little mad when we didn’t. Then thought well its best for top 5 skill. As we went along the 0-8 got us, Tied, with LA not ever ahead/or stabilized 1st.
Even though we played terrible for stretches of games, not once did I think we were a bottom 10 team. Just a mid-tier team in transition yr back to top 10 team, going through the process of that. Get that top 5 skill is vital for being that deep again roster wise.
Like 12 said after PIT walloping. Were a good team and have scorers, we just need to start the game at the beginning of 1st period. He was right.
Going to rout for the guys to win, when we play good and are there to win. When ew play terrible again, at times, just take the record status towards the very important top 5 skill.
Hopefully it works out for getting both.
Craig, yeah I like 17 as well. I saw video of Strome and Debrincat and saw lots and lots of plays similar inside dots and other areas. What I liked is they kept going and going creating chances/making plays and scored. They score. Saw that lots and lost with those guys. Once they get to the start of their prime yrs, these guys can do the same thing they did there.
We have the list of whos on the 23man, as of now, for when were deep again in 2 yrs. Would love to se some of these guys here now get better/develop and then take it next level once they are established.
Reading a lot of the posts here, I say keep every Defenseman. Trade 2 7 and the ones were not keeping for returns/future wave.
The moar the better. Just because we have more then 7 doesn’t mean trade. Trade for future assets.
I really like having the Four Horsemen, Dals and Murf, and 56 while getting better. 2 is fine if he stays. I want to be loaded, so loaded at D for when were deep in 2 yrs.
ER, I think you wait. Wall could be on to something with the style and system. We really should give every player enough games 40/80/120 to see how they are in this kind of system. We have these two yrs, for time to do that.
Like people wanted to trade 20 because of first 10 games. I thought, you can always cut a tree down later, you cant put it back.
Would rather have 20 and 56/if he gets better, like hes doing, and see if he becomes a good player in this kind of system.
56 does get better and you still wanted to trade him, when we have too many good Defenseman then we get even more in return.
I would disagree with any sentiments that our goalies have been subpar this season. We are nowhere near where we need to be as far as SOG/SA are concerned. We continue to add unneeded pressure on them by ballooning to 34 SA a game. That is more than the league avg has EVER been! (Also worth noting, the team basically wilted when they saw 50 being helped off the ice last week.)
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As far as moving Dmen at the deadline, i would say as long as you have an opposing GM with the ‘acumen’ of Bowman, the sky is the limit on potential retunrs!
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Nilsson up, so 17 to center.
My reasons for saying “for various reasons Keith and Seabrook will not get traded” is obvious in the case of Seabrrok with his $6.8M cap hit for a bunch more years. For Keith my reason for thinking he won’t get traded is not because he isn’t still a very good d-man or he is overpriced – it’s because (1) he has veto power with his NMC, and (2) it could signal Toews and Kane that this is more of a longer term rebuild than a shorter term retool. If things continued to spiral down and Keith went to Stan and asked to be moved – it would be one thing, but if it was Stan initiating the trade it could lose T&K buy in to the rebuild/retool.
Isn’t Nilsson a center?
I hope JC keeps the top-3 lines the same and just slides Nilsson into 4C in place of Johnson.
ER-I’m not sure trading Keith would signal much other than letting a veteran player who contributed much to the run the Hawks had that they are being open to something if he wants it-it’s up to him really.
In other words at his age (35) Keith isn’t going to influence a retool vs. a rebuild. He’s not an all-star anymore, and really not a top 3 on most Cup contenders. He’s a solid 3/4 and a great influence-and probably wants to stay a Hawk.
19 and 88 have 10.5 million reasons and 3 Cups to play hard every night and enjoy whatever unfolds.
Not sure lines.
Yea, Ian had some ways to trade 7 contract.
I was doing it, 19 and 88 stay no matter. 2 could, certain things would have to happen…, return is really good. Trading 38 is a really great trade.
I good trading 50 and 2 or keeping. Return is big and very important.
Like 20 and 56 and whos next, people wanted to trade, 50 or 2 could help us win again in a couple yrs or a good return from whoever could to.
I think were in the drivers seat now, for trades and ufa adds. Make that wave as strong as you can, be creative.
Stop the Bowman type hype with Delia! Good for him he won a game (thx posts) but this sounds like Darling all over again. Where was Bowman when Carter Hart was available in the draft? Or Murray? Or Di Pietro? Gravel was a 6th rounder, Peeters a soccer goalie, and Nal a 7th round pick? What were the scouts looking at, Anthony 5’7″ Louis, Blake Hillman, Jack Wise?
Beaudin might be a good NHLer but got beat out by 2nd rounders on Team Canada.
Watching Danault skate relentlessly with speed, scoring 2 more goals today making 8 and 17 assists, wow, Dale Weise and Fleishmann.
Thx Scotty, I mean Stan Bowman.
The Danault trade was lousy for the Hawks – no doubt. I’d love to have Danault back on the Hawks. But, he just scored his 3rd and 4th goals today – not his 7th and 8th. He does have 17 assists though.
Love Danault.
That’s 4th line center scoring not 3rd.
He sure would look good as 4th center, when were deep in 2yrs.
Hopefully Wise can be that kind of player, with a elc/bridge cap hit for these yrs coming up.
Mo would to see a 4th line at some point of Barrett at center comparisons to Shaw, enough said, Entwistle big mobile body who uses it, lethal wrister, battles for the puck, goes to front of net, kilks penalties and good defensively. With Soderlund, forechecking buzzsaw as wingers. Think that coukd be best 4th line we saw in awhile.
Do not think its bas to have Buckaroo in Rockford for 2nd 40 games, if its better for development. We have the time to do it.
4th line that has that stuff. The stuff that Shawzer has and 36/16/67 had. Want that kind. Those players be ready for next training camp.
LA won again so were still 1 game close to them. 7 and 6. Other teams are 3, 2, 2, 2.
Not as big cushion, same spacing.
I would love to get a late 1st/early 2nd rounder or very good prospect for Keith, but ER may be right that it may alienate T&K. These three players have been the inner core of this team for a long time. T&K may lose patience if Keith gets traded. Also, Keith provides mentoring and leadership value to our young d-men, which helps their development.
Danault with 3 and Pirri with 2. Look out the sky is falling!
The logjam on D in the next year or two will be interesting and it’ll be interesting in January when Joki comes back from the WJC – how does he fit in to the top 6 D or does he?
The plus side of so many D is that there shouldn’t be any reason to rush anyone (even Boqvist) into the line up next year – if he or Mitchell is ready then something will give bur not before
Disagree about Murphy’s price tag – he looks a $4 million/year defender to me – he’s playing great, maybe not going to score a lot but is doing the job very well on the D side of the ice
If it meant 2 and 7 were to be moved to keep playing alot of minutes somewhere else vs a reduced role by staying and they waive their nmc, are okay with it don’t think 88, 19 would be too upset. Lots of ways it could be done if it does happen. Being in a position where not alot of big contracts to sign next few years, eating half of either or both salaries to term maximizing the benefitif needed, it could be done if they want. There are other options available too down the road depending on what the team is thinking. Leadership they bring is the biggest concern at this point to me.
Like the idea that going into next season of not having marginal free agents from Europe or Nhl being signed to try fill top of the roster roles and having unrealistic expectations for them. Should have healthy competition on the blueline and bottom 6 for spots. Toews line should be mostly set and a priority on putting a big offensive line with Kane. Goaltending has some questions, but answers are there no matter how things go.
Danault hat trick, Pirri two goals, Panik goal, assist-and Kevin Hayes two points.
National Former Blackhawk Day–luckily the Carolina Blackhawks were shut out.
Sorry JR didn’t see your post
and somewhere Jeremy Morin has scored ; )
Keith may veto any trade but if he were willing to move I think he’d fetch a very good return
If it’s at TDL a first and a good prospect (or don’t do it) and if it’s in the summer hopefully a roster player (say Keith for Kapanen when the Leafs realize they need someone like Keith more than they need Kapanen)
Wrap, that’s funny I was just going to post Morin something.
Good for Danault. Pirri and Morin can kiss my ass.
Not saying we do it, a really good return for 2 and decent for 15 at deadline would add the most for the young wave.
I am really ok with either since it makes us better for yrs 2-10 from now then not doing it. yrs 2-10 from now are more important because we ll be deep again.
I be interesting what teams project to be he top 5 teams and 6-10 teams for yrs 2-10 from now. BUF CAL could be there and teams like TB NAS ANA PIT on their way out/lower tier then their at now.
Wow – this is a tough crowd!!!
Don’t i get any stick taps for correctly calling Nilsson (or Carlsson) next guys to get a call up… and 20 minutes later….. Nilsson gets the call
JC- must be reading this Blog…
Not saying a good prospect/established player isint good add. I like picks because we can add them together and move up at diff points in draft.
Like a 2nd and the 2nd we get for 15 to move up and get that guy Wall has scouted Kaliyev. Whatever adds to move up for certain guys.
Ok we get top 4 pick (top 5 skill) and have an extra 1st and 2nd for 2 and 15 or some sort of trades from deadline. With the picks we know we have and those extra picks what are your realistic and what we want/need picks.
Who do you guys like the most right now for our
1-4 pick, 32nd pick, extra 1st pick, extra 2nd pick, and what picks we already have.
1.Jack Hughes, C, USDP, 5’10, 168 lbs
2.Kaapo Kakko, RW, TPS Turku (LIIGA), 6’1, 181 lbs
3.Kirby Dach, C, Saskatoon Blades (WHL), 6’4, 198 lbs
4.Dylan Cozens, C, Lethbridge Hurricanes (WHL), 6’3, 185 lbs
5.Alex Turcotte, C, USDP, 5’11, 194 lbs
6.Bowen Byram, LHD, Vancouver Giants (WHL), 6’1, 191 lbs
7.Vasili Podkolzin, RW, SKA Saint Petersburg (MHL), 6’1, 190 lbs
8.Peyton Krebs, LW, Kootenay ICE (WHL), 5’11, 181 lbs
9.Matthew Boldy, LW, USDP, 6’2, 187 lbs
10.Ryan Suzuki, C, Barrie Colts (OHL), 6’0, 172 lbs
11.Alex Newhook, C, Victoria Grizzlies (BCHL), 5’11, 183 lbs
12.Cam York, LHD, USDP, 5’11, 172 lbs
13.Trevor Zegras, C, USDP, 6’0, 168 lbs
14.Raphael Lavoie, RW, Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL), 6’4, 198 lbs
15.Philip Broberg, LHD, AIK (Allsvenskan), 6’3, 198 lbs
16.Cole Caufield, RW, USDP, 5’7, 167 lbs
17.Matthew Robertson, LHD, Edmonton Oil Kings (WHL), 6’4, 201 lbs
18.Arthur Kaliyev, RW, Hamilton Bulldogs (OHL), 6’2, 190 lbs
19.Anttoni Honka, RHD, KeuPa HT (Mestis), 5’10, 170 lbs
20.Nolan Foote, C, Kelowna Rockets (WHL), 6’3, 187 lbs
21.Simon Holmstrom, RW, HV 71 (SHL), 5’11, 171 lbs
22.John Beecher, C, USDP, 6’3, 203 lbs
23.Albin Grewe, C, Djugardens IF (SHL), 6’0, 176 lbs
24.Victor Soderstrom, RHD, Brynas IF (SHL), 5’11, 176 lbs
25.Jakob Pelletier, LW, Moncton Wildcats (QMJHL), 5’9, 161 lbs
26.Moritz Seider, RHD, Adler Mannheim (DEL), 6’4, 183 lbs
27.Ilya Mironov, LHD, Lokomotiv Yaroslavl (MHL), 6’3, 198 lbs
28.Thomas Harley, LHD, Mississauga Steelheads (OHL), 6’3, 183 lbs
29.Nicholas Robertson, C, Peterborough Petes (OHL), 5’9, 168 lbs
30.Alex Vlasic, LHD, USDP, 6’6, 192 lbs
31.Matvei Guskov, C, London Knights (OHL), 6’1 172 lbs
32.Mikko Kokkonen, LHD, Jukurit (LIIGA), 5’11, 190 lbs
33.Tobias Bjornfot, LHD, Djugardens IF J20 (SuperElit), 6’0, 187 lbs
34.Pavel Dorofeyev, LW, Stalnye Lisy Magnitogorsk (MHL), 6’0, 183 lbs
35.Spencer Knight, G, USDP, 6’3, 198 lbs
36.Connor McMichael, C, London Knights (OHL), 6’0, 170 lbs
37.Artemi Knyazev, LHD, Chicoutimi Saguenéens (QMJHL), 5’11, 176 lbs
38.Philip Tomasino, C, Niagara IceDogs (OHL), 6’0, 181 lbs
39.Sasha Mutala, RW, Tri-City Americans (WHL), 6’1, 196 lbs
40.Daniil Gutik, LW, Lokomotiv Yaroslavl (MHL), 6’3, 179 lbs
41.Marshall Warren, LHD, USDP, 5’11, 168 lbs
42.Samuel Poulin, LW, Sherbrooke Phoenix (QMJHL), 6’1, 207 lbs
43.Nils Hoglander, RW, Rogle BK (SHL), 5’9, 185 lbs
44.Kaedan Korczak, RHD, Kelowna Rockets (WHL), 6’3, 192 lbs
45.Maxim Cajkovic, RW, Saint John Sea Dogs, 5’11, 187 lbs
46.Blake Murray, C, Sudbury Wolves (OHL), 6’3, 185 lbs
47.Brett Leason, C, Prince Albert Raiders (WHL), 6’4, 205 lbs
48.Drew Helleson, RHD, USDP, 6’2, 181 lbs
49.Marcus Kallionkieli, LW, Sioux City (USHL), 6’1, 176 lbs
50.Valentin Nussbaumer, C, Shawinigan Cataractes (QMJHL), 6’0, 168 lbs
Add a goal for Kempny to the former Blackhawk’s stats tonight.
there is no reason to trade Keith unless you plan on the rebuild taking 4+years;even 3 is justification for trade, and that point just trade everyone whatever
Mo the head of central scouting (Marr) says to think more Brady Thachuk for Kappo and more Marner for Hughes-while Seidel (also with Cent. Sc) says the difference is the Hughes kid is worth losing 26 in a row to have.
He’s young but let’s see how Hughes does at the WJC. against the best 17-19 year old players in the world-(that aren’t in the NHL)
Noonan Hughes definitely the most skilled and will be 1st overall. Potentially the ability to have a Kane like impact on a team that gets him. Expect his nunbers at wjc to support that. Not convinced that Kappo will be no. 2 as Podkolzin and Cozens should be right there too.
Let’s play out Mo’s best case scenario with the Hawks picking up a 1st rounder for Keith and a 2nd rounder for Anisimov. Let’s have Keith going to Toronto and the Leafs finish up 2nd in the East behind T.B. so the Hawks get the 28th pick from Toronto. Let’s have Anisimov going to Calgary and the Flames finish up 3rd in the West behind Wpg and Nsh so the Hawks get the 56th pick from Calgary. Let’s say the Hawks finish with the 4th worst record but they win the lottery so they get the 1st, 35th and 66th pick through the first 3 rounds. With the picks acquired in trades they will have picks: 1, 28, 35, 56 and 66. Let’s say the Hawks package the 56th and 66th picks to move up and get the 47th pick.
Hawks picks:
1. Jack Hughes (C/RW)
28. Matvei Guskov (C)
35. Connor McMichael (C)
47. (over ager) Brett Leason (C)
That’s a heckuva big step to improve the team.
Good to see what type/style these draft guys are. I donot know since World Juniors summer tournament isint in Lake Placid anymore.
What about the other top 10 picks and Kayliyev players stye/type compare to what NHL style and how good/level compare to NHLers.
1.Jack Hughes, C -Marner
2.Kaapo Kakko, RW -Thachuk
3.Kirby Dach, C –
4.Dylan Cozens, C –
5.Alex Turcotte, C –
6.Bowen Byram, LHD –
7.Vasili Podkolzin, RW –
8.Peyton Krebs, LW –
9.Matthew Boldy, LW –
10.Ryan Suzuki, C –
18.Arthur Kaliyev, RW –
Hawks picks:
1. Jack Hughes (C/RW)
28. Matvei Guskov (C)
35. Connor McMichael (C)
47. (over ager) Brett Leason (C)
That’s a heckuva big step to improve the team.
If that’s who we wante with those area picks, the diff with keeping Dunks is not having a draft player like Guskov or McMichael (those two are same size same team C).
Would that be worth trading Dunks for.
Again, Why would Kieth accept a trade to anywhere with the exception of Winnipeg, his home town. Another run at a Cup. Hardly seems like a reason to leave the stability of where he is now.
Not saying to trade Dunks for an extra late 1st. People have been options for best returns for future wave. I would rather keep 50/2, unless contract yr then they can come back anyways. Understand the value of trading with very good returns.
Without that extra last 1st, that’s got to be pretty good draft.
Mike – Toronto or Winnipeg or wherever – the idea is that it would need to be a contending team for Keith to agree so the pick would be probably be toward the end of the 1st round.
Mo, I’ve been following London pretty closely because Boqvist plays for them and Guskov and McMichael are both very good players (obviously) with London fans debating which one is better. Pick them both and hopefully at least one of them becaomes a very good NHL’er. Probably neither of them are ready to step in and play next season but then only the top few are.
Brett Leason is an interesting case because he’s been passed over in the draft twice and he will be 20 by the time the 2019 draft rolls around. His career curve is similar to Brandon Hagel who the Hawks signed earlier this year, although Hagel was drafted in 2016 but Buffalo decided not to sign him so he became a free agent. Both guys had mediocre stats in the WHL but have turned it up a lot in their over-ager seasons. Leason is a big center and is scoring at 2ppg this season.
That sounds a lot like Shawzer draft wise.
They said Leason worked hard in summer on his skating which was subpar, the improvement is credited to doing that. He has a point in every game so far this season.
Mo say Kaliyev and Lavoie are clones of each other, teams be trying to draft same player. Right now Kaliyev trending up, passed by Lavoie, who is dropping down.
Ian. Can you explain to me how Philadelphia was able to sign Yegor Zemula and Philippe Myers, both 18-year-old defensemen after each went undrafted just once ?
Furthermore why wouldn’t more teams sign undrafted 18 and 19 year-olds. ?
Is it that teams don’t want to commit to a contract to such a young player and would rather wait 2 years to see if he develops ?
Barrett has a lot of goals/points for 17 games at college level (18-22).
Be a player like Shawzer.
Tuff goal scorer.
Making it look mean.
I have no problem with any of those core Blackhawks being Blackhawks for life. I would venture to guess one of them will request a trade at some point.
Here is a fun little thought….it’s late in the season and the Coyotes look to be making a stride for the playoffs….both Hossa and Datsyuk make a return…..
Yotes are tied with the Blackhawks in points; three games in hand. Haven’t seen any games but Nick Schmaltz is on a roll.
LA 7
CHI 6
ARI 3
OTT 3
NWJ 3
PHI 2
DET 2
STL 2
Happy for 8 rout for him to good there. Nice he did good right off that bat there. That makes him feel better and feel better when he sees were a top 5 team again in 2/3 yrs.
The McMichael guy got lots more points. BoQ and Bouchard character are same. BoQ really a 2019 draft player.
Craig when a player isn’t drafted they have the choice to go back to juniors and committ to next years draft. When they make that committment then they are tied to next draft. Until then they have the option of signing an elc if they earn one, go to NCAA or Europe to try and get noticed instead of committing to next draft again.
Instead of committing to next draft in juniors i meant on the last line. I velieve they cam still be drafted as overagers out Europe and University as well.
Thanks
Not so fast Noonan, ex-Hawk Teuvo putting on a show against the Bruins today! And Nick Schmaltz is amazing at center for the Yotes!!!
Danault and a 2nd round pick for Weise and Fleishmann!!! Wow, Bergevin took Bowman to elemantary school!
Oh yeah Stan, Walhstrom 2 goals today for USA Juniors!
Rather have the Four Horsemen and add Panarin/similar and another FW.
Hull – your schtick sure gets old. Have you watched any of Schmalz’s games with Arizona? I have and he looks just like he did with the Hawks with some nice puck luck on a few plays. Check out his plus minus – I don’t think it has been amazing. Not saying he won’t be a good player but he ain’t the second coming of Gretzky.
MS, no one is number 99! But for Kane, Nick was perfect. And he can skate which will keep him in this league longer than Strome. I have watched some of his games and I am not sure what you are talking about, he has been playing very well. Arizona is not a great team!
Schtick? What about Bowman’s schtick? I think all I am giving you MS is facts, the reality and the state of what I see Bowman has left this team in.